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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:22am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Video clearly shows men aiming at and hitting targets at 1km distance with WW2 rifles using only iron sights 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:23am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Henry120: - no gripen mothballed - 22 000 hours of jet fuel purchased, 18000 used = surplus - Sub spent 7 years and hundreds of millions of rands being upgraded actually defeats your "proof" If we are broke I dont want to think what the Nigerian army is 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:24am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: http://www.voanews.com/content/global-sea-piracy-rises-attacks-less-successful-125558773/158490.html 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:25am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nigerias anti-apartheid campaign was limited to issuing Visa's and writing a song 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:26am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Actually yes, completely seperate Look at the US Army GCV program 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:28am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope - project defined the need to replace the IFV Decision as to what was needed was released in 2007 - meaning that the requirements were only decided upon at that time. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:28am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Denel weapons were used in the border war before they were in service with the SADF (go look up Juliet troop - highly experimental G6 howitzers used during Quito loong before introduction into SADF service) You are simply too simple to understand how our military-industrial complex works 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:30am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Olifant tanks suffered track damage you clown 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:31am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: You only have 67 MT-LB's - that is no where enough to support an armored brigade. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:32am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: According to you the war in Angola involved 300,000 men Is that small? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:33am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: His answer is direct The tank hull IS THE ARMOR - you cant change it unless you replace the turret or attach armor ontop of existing armor. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:34am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: What is wrong with you? Multiple sources have been posted that show: - 6 currently in service - ~30 soon to be delivered - first of 236 roll off production line late this year or early next year 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:34am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Pulling more facts from your bum? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:35am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Read the source augustus, its quite clear SANDF is far from broke - considering trhe R10 billion has been paid 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:36am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: So how does Boko Haram capture towns and raid other towns? Magical teleportation? Invisibility cloaks? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:38am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope - we use flat floor technology which uses blast vents (like the Australian Bushmaster) and not added armor 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:41am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: We dont need the Mokopa at this point, and since it is an ignominious product there is no need to aquire any as we allready have the factory that builds them set up Badger is a different story and again, you keep saying we are broke but: With the i’s dotted and the t’s crossed at long last on documentation for the SA Army’s new infantry fighting vehicle (IFV), Denel Land Systems (DLS) will now start work in earnest on industrialisation of the Badger, with the first unit expected off the production line by August 2015. http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32046:badger-ifv-industrialisation-starts-in-earnest-with-first-production-model-expected-in-2015&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242 #TheyHateUsCuzTheyAintUs 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:42am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: And so? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:43am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Weird then that we have just begun production of the A-darter and Badger, paid for the last stage of development of the Marlin and Raptor 3 and issued tenders for 8 new frigate sized OPV's 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:46am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: According to this map of Boko Haram activity there is practically no major water obsticals in the AO So, I am not quite sure what your point was. And we dont have force projection? Ask the Angolans about our force projection 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:48am On Feb 01, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:51am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: We sent men to Brazil so we could begin setting up a dedicated jungle warfare school in Port St Johns We have no operational history in triple-canopy jungle warfare, hence we needed to build capacity Many SADF men still proudly serve the SANDF - you see, the thing about professional soldiers is that they ignore politics. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:51am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust: Those men werent in Kruger As I have shown many many times 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:42am On Feb 01, 2015 |
agaugust:They've actually went to the front on multiple times. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:44am On Feb 01, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi:You're not squeezing anything. BH holds huge land they simply fall back. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:49am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Including the Seeker UAV called RPV then, and the Ratel-ZT3 including its Ingwe missiles. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:54am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Patchesagain:The DMR R4 can hit targets beyond 500m 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:02am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Patchesagain:they went to Brazil for a refresher cause. The SANDF didn't have "a jungle" to train in, Lieutenant General Mgwebi a Chief of Joint Operations a qualified special force himself negotiated with local chiefs for the usage of Pt Saint Johns. As special forces of the Transkai defence force were trained there by the SADF. Soon a school will be opened there. SADC SF units hold yearly exercises which exposed them to different weathers and environments from Desert in Namibia, Cold and high altitudes in Lesotho etc |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:01am On Feb 01, 2015 |
mzilakazi:well,the world will have to come to an end then.because i dont see any african country willingly volunteering its troops to fight terrorists.moreover,what will the 7500 soldiers do that our 20 000 soldiers in borno havent already done in the past?,what ability does the 7500 soldiers possess that our 130 000 strong military does not surpass?,what skill or strategy will the 7500 soldiers utilize that our 35 000 soldiers in the north east havent utilized?,most african countries dont even have COIN training and experience{SA included}.if the AU is going to set up any fighting force,its still going to comprise of chadians,nigeriens,cameroonians and it will be nigerians that heads the mission,all these countries are already members of the MNJTF and are already currently fighting BH in the north east. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:14am On Feb 01, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi:LOL.rumours indeed.of course,i understand your perculiar predicament.a man with a volatile job like yours must adhere to some stringent constrictions,making the secular endeavor of keeping some personal details concealed.but it would have been splendid to be able to communicate with you on in less raucous medium.just try to keep us updated on any unconfidential details of happenings in the NE. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 8:21am On Feb 01, 2015 |
EVarn: What do they have that you dont? - mobility - skill - a lack of corruption - moral - motivation - basic equipment - functional equipment For example, look at what the AU has done in Somalia with a much smaller force against an enemy that held a much larger area and was not only well funded but well entrenched Your army is incompetent, poorly motivated, rife with corruption and lacks complete and utter tactical nuance. With regards to COIN, SANDF and many African countires (Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, South Africa, Angola, elements of the DRC army, Chad) have either COIN experience or are well versed in COIN training. Furthermore, COIN is no longer the type of war you are fighting. You are now fighting LICW. Your inability to defeat BH in LICW shows (yet again) what a lame duck your military is. And as to your implication that it will be led by Nigerians... why the hell would anyone let a man that cannot even successfully lead his own troops lead theirs? Just sit back and wait, AU is coming to bail you out. 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:03am On Feb 01, 2015 |
NIGERIAN TROOPS RECAPTURES GWOZA,BAGA,MARTE,KUKAWA,AND DIKWA FROM BOKO HARAM!!!! . . http://www.thecable.ng/breaking-troops-retake-gwoza-bharam . . Nigerian troops have recaptured gwoza{the heart of boko haram caliphate},baga,marte,kukawa and dikwa towns in borno state.according to a senior official of the nigerian army,only bama,banki and chibok in borno state,and madagali in adamawa state are still in the hands of boko haram. ....more update coming soon [thecable.ng] 4 Likes |
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