so de Gea is yet to sign another deal & I thought he already did. fresh rumors emerging says his advisors insists on a buy-out clause to be included despite the offered wages believed to be £200,000?week.

I think the board left this stuff too late. this deal should have been ironed out in the past summer!

Danhumprey:
Wilfried Zaha permanently joined Crystal Palace.

I hope we don't get to regret this. Pogba comes to mind.

moyes didn't rate him, he got swept aside by van gaal too. moyes is a möron.....he's probably racist too. he ruined zaha's career. if moyes had embraced zaha like he did adnan, zaha would still be with us.

Danhumprey:
Wilfried Zaha permanently joined Crystal Palace.


I hope we don't get to regret this. Pogba comes to mind.

I don't know the motive behind this. he could have continued on loan till the end of this season & even next season let's see how he progresses. he's a very young player, why the rush?

one of Valencia/Young could have been allowed to leave permanently while Nani returns.

Strootman out till end of season!!! I think that ends any lingering interest from LvG

what happened to the Dragovic deal sef?

coogar:


moyes didn't rate him, he got swept aside by van gaal too. moyes is a möron.....he's probably racist too. he ruined zaha's career. if moyes had embraced zaha like he did adnan, zaha would still be with us.

This one is Moyes' fault too...!!?

At this point I just have to conclude that "coogar" is very badly written computer program that is supposed to mimic humans!

Meanwhile... if you missed the Barcelona - Villareal game, you have sinned against the god of footie!

"I told you, you asked me my predictions [for the Chelsea v Manchester City game].
"I said a draw and I was not wrong because Chelsea had one shot on target and Manchester City three or four. It was a draw.

- Arsene Wenger.

some coded swipe there

RuuDie:


This one is Moyes' fault too...!!?

At this point I just have to conclude that "coogar" is very badly written computer program that is supposed to mimic humans!

whose fault is it?
a whole SAF got a rookie into man utd to increase the number of the black faces in our squad and moyes marginalised him for no good reason. is valencia better than zaha? is januzaj better than zaha?

zaha was the best championship player when we got him & it's not moyes fault? by the time LVG came around, the poor boy had lost his confidence and his self worth. how could the best player in the championship become a perpetual bench warmer at united?

e no go better for moyes - na every month i go dey curse am. he ruined man utd beyond recognition.

What is special about Zaha?

SAF brought him just as he did with Obertan, Tosic, Bebe. There will always be miss or hit signings.

elampiro:
What is special about Zaha?

SAF brought him just as he did with Obertan, Tosic, Bebe. There will always be miss or hit signings.

tosic, bebe & obertan all won the player of the year in england before they were signed. very brilliant analogy you have got there.....

NOT!

elampiro:
What is special about Zaha?

SAF brought him just as he did with Obertan, Tosic, Bebe. There will always be miss or hit signings.

I don't think its same bro. Zaha himself said he never, for one minute, trained under SAF.

personally, I don't believe he was given a chance to even fail here.

SailorXY:
so de Gea is yet to sign another deal & I thought he already did. fresh rumors emerging says his advisors insists on a buy-out clause to be included despite the offered wages believed to be £200,000?week.

I think the board left this stuff too late. this deal should have been ironed out in the past summer!

After all we did for DDG, he is packing his bags before he even gave 5 years (if the story is true)?. And we are offering him the salary of world class strikers. Where was Madrid when we kept faith with DDG in keenly contested 2011/12 season? If we had bought Friedel or Iloris, we would be champions then.

SailorXY:

I don't think its same bro. Zaha himself said he never, for one minute, trained under SAF.

personally, I don't believe he was given a chance to even fail here.

na that mumu moyes & SAF's brief decision to leave man utd that caused this mess. look at the nonsense job moyes is doing at sociedad already. he got skewered 4-1 over the weekend. his days are numbered in la liga.

he's shyte!

coogar:


tosic, bebe & obertan all won the player of the year in england before they were signed. very brilliant analogy you have got there.....

NOT!

Ronaldo, Nani, Anderson, Ince, Giggs, Beckham, Oshea, Brown. How many of these won player of the year in England before we signed them. But they all hit on arrival.

elampiro:


Ronaldo, Nani, Anderson, Ince, Giggs, Beckham, Oshea, Brown. How many of these won player of the year in England before we signed them. But they all hit on arrival.

this is why zaha shoulda been given plenty of chance at united. he was shining in his own little way before we bought him. why did moyes even refuse to start him last season even when most of our wingers were poor in form?

abeg, zaha should never forgive SAF for causing this mess. SAF bought him over and left him stranded for a möronic manager like moyes. what does moyes know about coloured skin young players?

SailorXY:

I don't think its same bro. Zaha himself said he never, for one minute, trained under SAF.

personally, I don't believe he was given a chance to even fail here.

The coaches know these players far far more than we do. Even in trainings you see a lot. Just tell me how many player who Moyes or Gaal sidelined that are doing great?

Do you think Tosic and Bebe were given chance to fly or fail? Tosic didn't have much playing time.

Zaha was shyte in two competitives games he featured for us that I saw at the beginning of last season. I think one was the shield. He was the worst player. Adnan clicked away even as he was already rated. Zaha went on loan last season and failed woefully.

A coach makes hard choices. So Gaal has. We wish Zaha goodluck. Even if he turns CR7, e no mean. The team is too large jor. See Rafael, Mata, Herrera, Fellaini can't find space. When we buy midfielder(s), one or two of Rooney, RVP and Falcao will join. Summer go tough o. Some more hard choices.

coogar:


this is why zaha shoulda been given plenty of chance at united. he was shining in his own little way before we bought him. why did moyes even refuse to start him last season even when most of our wingers were poor in form?

abeg, zaha should never forgive SAF for causing this mess. SAF bought him over and left him stranded for a möronic manager like moyes. what does moyes know about coloured skin young players?

Don't blame coaches until you have been a coach. Coaches see what we don't see. Sincerely, SAF woudnt play Zaha over Valencia. I am sure of that. Just the way he wouldn't have played Pique over Ferdinand, Vidic and Brown except they were injured. But Pique went on to become a highly rated defender for years at Barca, and started making mockery of SAF for not believing in him.

That's football.

elampiro:


Don't blame coaches until you have been a coach. Coaches see what we don't see. Sincerely, SAF woudnt play Zaha over Valencia. I am sure of that. Just the way he wouldn't have played Pique over Ferdinand, Vidic and Brown except they were injured. But Pique went on to become a highly rated defender for years at Barca, and started making mockery of SAF for not believing in him.

That's football.

so SAF bought zaha as a decoration or an expensive ornament to just display on the bench?

the examples you keep bringing out does not suit zaha situation. pique wasn't as good as any of our centre backs when he was here.

zaha was better than valencia when we got him. he was going to replace valencia when SAF suddenly retired.

Where do you guys think Zaha will play in Gaal's wing back philosophy? We aren't playing traditional wingers anymore.

coogar:


so SAF bought zaha as a decoration or an expensive ornament to just display on the bench?

the examples you keep bringing out does not suit zaha situation. pique wasn't as good as any of our centre backs when he was here.

zaha was better than valencia when we got him. he was going to replace valencia when SAF suddenly retired.

My argument is that SAF bought several players who we thought were going to replace the old ones, but they never did. There was so much praises following the 'capture' of tosic, 'a wonder winger'.

Most of these young players get exposed when they play for the reserve after having failed in the first team. Same with Zaha. When you play for U-21 and you not standing out, how do you get into the senior team?

elampiro:
Where do you guys think Zaha will play in Gaal's wing back philosophy? We aren't playing traditional wingers anymore.

we are playing wingbacks cos valencia is mostly shytë. if we had proper wingers, we would be playing 4-3-3. the squad has no balance & LVG wants to shoehorn all his top players in the same team.

elampiro:

My argument is that SAF bought several players who we thought were going to replace the old ones, but they never did. There was so much praises following the 'capture' of tosic, 'a wonder winger'.

SAF bought zaha for £15m. a player who is yet to play in the top division for that amount means SAF rated him & he wouldn't have brought him to OT without playing him in big games. even bebe that was playing in division 3 in portugal got league games under his belt.

zaha never flopped at OT, he wasn't even tested at all & that is my frustration with his situation. tosic was no wonder winger - he's a foreigner who must still prove he can adapt to the rigours of the english league.

zaha wouldn't have needed that - he played in the championship league - a much physically tougher league than the premier league. he ended up being their best player there. why would he fail under SAF? even if he had failed, he woulda been tested. moyes never tested zaha. he just kept him away from football.

Most of these young players get exposed when they play for the reserve after having failed in the first team. Same with Zaha. When you play for U-21 and you not standing out, how do you get into the senior team?

which nonsense reserve team?
why would zaha be motivated to play in the reserves? a player that is a cult hero in crystal palace? it's the likes of adnan & blackett that would appreciate playing for reserves, not zaha.

coogar:


na that mumu moyes & SAF's brief decision to leave man utd that caused this mess. look at the nonsense job moyes is doing at sociedad already. he got skewered 4-1 over the weekend. his days are numbered in la liga.

he's shyte!

Na you write this one?

Madrid will beat Man United by same Margin or even more. How dem dey call dat club, MK Dons? How many dem beat us? How many teams in Europe can stop Madrid from scoring four?

coogar:


we are playing wingbacks cos valencia is mostly shytë. if we had proper wingers, we would be playing 4-3-3. the squad has no balance & LVG wants to shoehorn all his top players in the same team.

How is Val shyte?

Even if Val is shyte, we have Di Maria, Young, Januzaj, Nani, Mata, Rooney, who can all play from the wings. Your excuse can't fly.

elampiro:

Na you write this one?

Madrid will beat Man United by same Margin or even more. How dem dey call dat club, MK Dons? How many dem beat us? How many teams in Europe can stop Madrid from scoring four?

madrid team without ronaldo?
oh please - united would destroy them from casillas to benzema. moyes got killed......no excuses abeg.

he lost to vallecano & villareal mauled him 4-0 too. i guess these 2 teams will beat united too according to your logic. moyes has failure in his DNA. if he manages bayern, they will miss champions league spot.

elampiro:

How is Val shyte?
Even if Val is shyte, we have Di Maria, Young, Januzaj, Nani, Mata, Rooney, who can all play from the wings. Your excuse can't fly.

young - hardly fit
nani - loan
mata - number 10
rooney - number 10
januzaj - rookie + hit/miss.

we have no out & out wingers. valencia is a möron. his decision making is substandard for a club like ours.

Danhumprey:
Bro,what's the meaning of these Yoruba words/phrases?

"ko kan aiye"

"kilode"

Ko kan aiye = it doesn't concern the word.

Kilode = What happened?

Someone has been cheating you abi?

coogar:


we are playing wingbacks cos valencia is mostly shytë. if we had proper wingers, we would be playing 4-3-3. the squad has no balance & LVG wants to shoehorn all his top players in the same team.




SAF bought zaha for £15m. a player who is yet to play in the top division for that amount means SAF rated him & he wouldn't have brought him to OT without playing him in big games. even bebe that was playing in division 3 in portugal got league games under his belt.

zaha never flopped at OT, he wasn't even tested at all & that is my frustration with his situation. tosic was no wonder winger - he's a foreigner who must still prove he can adapt to the rigours of the english league.

zaha wouldn't have needed that - he played in the championship league - a much physically tougher league than the premier league. he ended up being their best player there. why would he fail under SAF? even if he had failed, he woulda been tested. moyes never tested zaha. he just kept him away from football.




which nonsense reserve team?
why would zaha be motivated to play in the reserves? a player that is a cult hero in crystal palace? it's the likes of adnan & blackett that would appreciate playing for reserves, not zaha.

Who is Zaha? A championship player. When Owen Bhagreaves played some games for reserve. Tosic, an already established national team player was virtually relegated to the reserves by SAF.

Occassions warrants playing for the reserves and it enables the coach to see clearer.

elampiro:

Who is Zaha? A championship player. When Owen Bhagreaves played some games for reserve. Tosic, an already established national team player was virtually relegated to the reserves by SAF.

hargo played in the reserves to gain fitness. zaha wasn't injured or serving any punishment. apples & oranges!

Occassions warrants playing for the reserves and it enables the coach to see clearer.

moyes was just a stüpid man.
he mismanaged zaha - nothing to do with seeing anything clearer. with the shower of shyte valencia served last season, could zaha have performed any much worse?

upcoming fixtures
Tuesday 3rd Feb vs Cambridge(H)
sunday 8th feb vs Westham(A)
wedn 11th feb vs Burnley(H)
sat 21st feb vs Swansea(A)
sat 28th feb vs Sunderland(H)

real test come around March/April where we face liverpool,spurs,villa and city

Odunharry:
upcoming fixtures
Tuesday 3rd Feb vs Cambridge(H)
sunday 8th feb vs Westham(A)
wedn 11th feb vs Burnley(H)
sat 21st feb vs Swansea(A)
sat 28th feb vs Sunderland(H)

they are all winnable, we are not playing in europe. if we play at the same tempo we played yesterday, all these teams are lunch.

coogar:


madrid team without ronaldo?
oh please - united would destroy them from casillas to benzema. moyes got killed......no excuses abeg.

he lost to vallecano & villareal mauled him 4-0 too. i guess these 2 teams will beat united too according to your logic. moyes has failure in his DNA. if he manages bayern, they will miss champions league spot.

na today Madrid the beat teams mercilessly without Ronaldo? Abeg Moyes is doing well. Martinez is the goat.

* let me divert. Who is the Moyes in Dortmund?

coogar:


young - hardly fit
nani - loan
mata - number 10
rooney - number 10
januzaj - rookie + hit/miss.

we have no out & out wingers. valencia is a möron. his decision making is substandard for a club like ours.

young - hardly fit -------- at least he was fit for a while, and played with Di Maria.
nani - loan----------------- can be recalled.
mata - number 10------- played many times in the wing for Chelsea.
rooney - number 10----- Can play from the wing.
Januzaj------- doing better than when CR7 just arrived from Portugal. Far better than Zaha.



Zaha = Pius Ikedia. Lots of dribbling but can't see team mate taking position.

coogar:


hargo played in the reserves to gain fitness. zaha wasn't injured or serving any punishment. apples & oranges!



moyes was just a stüpid man.
he mismanaged zaha - nothing to do with seeing anything clearer. with the shower of shyte valencia served last season, could zaha have performed any much worse?

Every time Zaha got a chance, he performed worse than Val. I think there was even a match both featured. The difference was '7up'.

coogar:


they are all winnable, we are not playing in europe. if we play at the same tempo we played yesterday, all these teams are lunch.

sure...we will win all our home matches..westham and swansea are nt big threat

Here is the real test come 2nd week of march spurs,liverpool,villa,mancity,chelsea,everton in that order