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Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by torchwave: 7:40pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
SalC:hahahaha. I thought I was the only one who noticed that. She is toooo soft-hearted to be on nairaland. Chai. I can only advise her to ignore the rantings of many folks here on nairaland cos having insults thrown at one for airing one's thoughts is really not unusual... |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Anas09: 9:02pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
Ifeann, am so sure that if these sorts could get their hands on you, they'll give u the same treatment Muhammed gave to those who told him the truth. Why do they hate being told the truth? Maybe I feel like dis because I have a diff spirit. 1 Like |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by usermane(m): 11:47pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
Ifeann: Hi! Where did you post it, on this section or Islam section? I hope Islam section agents have not started pulling the strings on censorship in this section again? |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 7:21pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
usermane: I posted it here in the general religion section. .. i have NEVER posted any thing in the Islam for Muslim section. .. The thread was a simple and blunt article i wrote on the issues with islam and the vast differences between the teachings of Jesus and Mohammed which should compel any human with a conscience to leave Islam. Some people asked for it to be posted to the fp while Muslims insulted. In the end fear got the better of the mods. .. I will dilute the article and repost soon. .. Hope you are having a nice weekend. . |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by usermane(m): 7:39pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
Ifeann: Thanks, am doing good. Should you re-post it, i have your back. On no account should a secular forum like this be censored by religious supremacists. Whoever is sick of your criticisms should not view your thread. 1 Like |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 8:14pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
usermane: This is exactly why u are my favorite Muslim and one day hopefully a brother in Christ. . . I will repost again after it is watered down. .i don't want to offend anyone. . i was discussing with a muslim on nairaland, i think empiree or abuaman i can't recall and i posted something u said about the hadiths and asked why they attack you for your stance . .the Muslim says u are not a real Muslim and added some other choice insults. ..i don't know if you have seen the thread. .. why are Muslims so anti critical thinking, freedom of expression and objective reasoning? ? Why do they attack any opposition to the status quo.. even if it is clearly ridiculous. .don't they know that Islam will be less of a laughing stock without the hadiths. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by SalC: 8:54pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
Ifeann:Even I, have difficulty believing Usermane is a muslim, he seems completely different from any muslim I have met on or offline. He questions islam so much that even his fellow muslims here don't seem to like him one bit. Imagine even now, his profile picture is a bible verse while his siggy is Islamic. If truly he is a muslim, he is one of a kind and I salute his courage. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 9:10pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
SalC: He is the definition of being open minded. I take my time to read his posts when he disagrees with me because I know that I may actually learn something from him and which is NOT laced with al Taqiyya. But the hatred for him in the Islam for muslim section is stunning. He actually says the truth and defends Islam intelligently tho I disagree with some of his analysis. He is the ONLY muslim in nairaland that made me realise I misunderstood a verse. Usermane u will make a great christain apologist. Please study more about christainity and christain theology, google and watch videos by DR. David wood, (former pro Mohammed atheist turned christain), Sam shamoun(former muslim) and Dr. Nabeel qureshi (ex muslim)-i think I misspelt his name.. Please don't think that these prosperity/ word of faith pastors and new year, sports and politics prophesy pastors and paedophile priests are the face of Christianity. They are the bad eggs just as u have them in any society or religion. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by usermane(m): 9:30pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
Ifeann: Hmm.... I cannot expect anything less from such individuals who lack a sense of right and wrong. I expose the self-righteousness, deceit and ignorance within them, most times they had no logical response and cowardly resort to insults, banning me and deleting my threads. They basically escaped from me. why are Muslims so anti critical thinking, freedom of expression and objective reasoning? ? Why do they attack any opposition to the status quo.. even if it is clearly ridiculous. .don't they know that Islam will be less of a laughing stock without the hadiths. It is called ego. They have been brought up with a militant, irrational and supremacist understanding of their religion and therefore objectivity, rationality and freedom of expression have no place in their mindset. That is why they find it wrong for Christians to kill apostates but justify Muslims killing apostates. There is a battle for Islam among between such Muslims and Reform minded Muslims like me. Here is a brilliant documentary that captures it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ZECSUg8iY |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 9:40pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
usermane: Usemane, enough, before u convert someone here to Islam..lol I will watch the documentary when I get to my laptop and some popcorn. Cheers |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by estwhile: 10:07pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
But seriously ifeann, I'm curious as to why u left islam |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 10:32pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
estwhile: The funny thing is that the thread was a simple and blunt article i wrote on the issues with islam and the vast differences between the teachings of Jesus and Mohammed which should compel any human with a conscience to leave Islam. It was not a narrative about me. Yet the muslims panicked. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Nobody: 11:16pm On Jan 31, 2015 |
Ifeann:I think he(?) is more interested in derailing the thread so that the aim of opening this thread will not be achieved. You should know Muslims by now. They curse, lie bring up irrelevant issues when the dark side of their religion is expose |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 5:35am On Feb 01, 2015 |
Mee234: I know. . It a common practise by him and his like. . |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by sorextee(m): 9:58am On Feb 01, 2015 |
See as una dey make Username head swell.. I've been reading good reviews about him sha.. SalC: |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by PastorAIO: 6:53pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
I've got an idea for Seun. Seun, if indeed you are being threatened by Islamists regarding the things posted on this website, perhaps you could try to document it. Keep a record of any letters and emails sent, or if possible audio and video recordings of meetings with these people when they are likely to threaten you. Who knows, maybe in a couple of years time it might make a good documentary or expose´. Evidence. πø^¨¥†®´∑œåß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬……æ«¡€#¢∞§•ªº–Ω≈ç√∫~µ≤≥≥ I beg your pardon, I've just discovered what the alt button on my computer keyboard can do. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 9:49pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
PastorAIO: Very funny ending to your post. Actually this is a brillant idea. Only problem is that if his documentary is to be aired in a cinema , it could be blown up. No this is a dangerous idea.. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 10:04pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
usermane: I just watched the documentary. Its very educative, I have always known that not all Muslims are like tartar, ayinba, abuamam etc. This is why I never insult Muslims. The thing is that Muslims like u are so like christains in behaviour, u are also a very small voice in Islam. I just discovered a guy called BabaGnoni, he seems to be a level headed quranist. I was pained to see what decent anti hadith Muslims Go thru. It was also incredible to hear that ignorant muslim refer to that nice muslim doctor as an extremist. Empiree and abuamam watch this doc; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ZECSUg8iY Pay attention in the 46th minute mark and hear a morderate muslim complain about an extremist Muslims imam using al Taqiyya, he refered to it as double discourse. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by BabaGnoni: 10:13pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Ifeann:Level headed, I humbly accept, quranist, whatever that means, I doubt Ah, I am not sure I have the liver to watch this, as it looks gruesome just looking at the snapshot Will watch it later or at some stage, after mustering the will power |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 10:47pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
BabaGnoni: Its an okay documentary. . No gore scenes. . |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by BabaGnoni: 11:15pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Ifeann:Hmm, thank you... I've just finished watching it The below at the beginning (i.e. 1:06 - 1:10) reverberated in my ears throughout watching the video 1:06 if it was not illegal to kill or 1:10 if they would guarantee that there would be no punishment, some of us will be dead by now |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 10:54am On Feb 02, 2015 |
BabaGnoni:Yeah. . Its crazy. . And he is really meant it.. When i called u a quranist, i apparently i mistook u for a muslim, i read one of your posts where u were defending Islam and u mentioned ur disdain for the hadith. .. So let me get this clear. . Are u a muslim |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Sunymoore(m): 2:09pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
PastorAIO:Honestly as a Muslim, I'm not happy on how things are carried out here... If Christians and My atheists friends are not allowed to post in Islamic section, Muslims should not be allowed to post in the religion section too. I'm also having the feeling that oga seun is under threat |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by usermane(m): 5:28pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Thank you both(Ifeann & BabaGnoni), am actually glad you enjoyed the documentary. An important fact left out of it is the protection and support the Islamists enjoy from the western government/politicians like Obama, western leftists and mainstream media, all thanks to multiculturalism and political correctness. This sabotage the effort of the reform minded Muslims willing to integrate and defend western values like freedom, tolerance and secularism. We can understand this clearer by considering this forum. The Admin has not only given an entire section to Muslims but empowered Islamofascists, supremacist and militant Muslims to moderate and dominate the section, such that moderate, secular Muslims like me can't air their views, let alone non-Muslims. Only Muslims are permitted to post there and even then, only mainstream or orthodox teachings are tolerated in Islam section. Still, the Admin continue to feed Islamofascists in this forum by authorizing them to censor topics even in Religion or Politics section. Ifeann, that is why your topic was deleted. Not all Muslims are Islamists but an alarming fraction are. Any Muslim with a supremacist, absolutist and militant position on Islam is an Islamist even if he campaigns against Boko Haram. Islamists are wolves in sheep clothing, parasitizes on Islam and have a very twisted, demented and devious vision for the world. The earlier people like the Admin of this forum realizes that, the better. 2 Likes |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by BabaGnoni: 11:21pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
usermane:^^^ No problemo my brother... usermane, I turned away and shielded my face from watching the stoning part though Me, that I used to watch hardcore bloody gory and horror movies before with no problems. I must have gone soft This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives. - Genesis 16:12 NLT" Ishmael's descendants occupied the region from Havilah to Shur, which is east of Egypt in the direction of Asshur. There they lived in open hostility toward all their relatives. - Genesis 25:18 NLT It is not just today, yansh don dey for back. The butt as always been at the rear, not just recently |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by BabaGnoni: 11:24pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
Ifeann:We thank God for His mercies If "...they are guaranteed that there would be no punishment" we all will be dead by now Whenever I stand up and state the fact(s) about/for anyone unfairly criticised I get questioned with suggestion I am gravitating The most recent is "...when did you become an Islamic apologist" LOL I said a lot, even compared the Hadith with the Talmud before stopping and leaving my part of the discussion about Hadith with "disdain" |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by Ifeann(f): 11:41pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
BabaGnoni: This clearly explains why Muslim arabs behave the way they do. ..bible prophesies are chillingly accurate.. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by BabaGnoni: 12:10am On Feb 04, 2015 |
Ifeann: https://www.nairaland.com/2102255/documentary-nairaland---in-pictures-season-2/3#30404348 |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by usermane(m): 7:29am On Feb 04, 2015 |
Ifeann: Pay attention in the 46th minute mark and hear a morderate muslim complain about an extremist Muslims imam using al Taqiyya, he refered to it as double discourse. That is a very important observation. I tend to relate with you on the subject of Taqqiya. Islamists or Islamofascists have a clay face. They use this face to appeal to their audience, to recruit and proselytize. Unless you know their true face by studying their interpretation of the Qur'an(Hadith, Tafsir, ijma, Sirat), you would be fooled into their arms. They may deny violence and terrorism but like green snakes in the grasses, they are more venomous than terrorists like Al Qaida or Boko Haram who are frank who are frank and open about their agenda. BabaGnoni: You are surprised to learn that? There are several Muslims who stood in the name of their faith against the tide of Islamism and met their death at the hands of the Islamists. Farag Foda was assasinated in the early '90s by the Muslim Brotherhood, for standing against the clergy in defense of Egyptian Copts. In 2011, Salman Taseer(a Pakistan Governor) was assassinated at the behest of Muslim clerics for condemning blasphemy laws in Pakistan and defending Aasia Bibi. Raif Badawi is currently in prison and under flogging in Saudi Arabia for criticizing the state and her interpretaion of Islam, promoting Islamic reform. Muhammad Taha, Rashad Khalifa, and Tahiri deserve mention too. You may reject their faith but these were men who stood for justice, freedom, equity(regardless of religion or gender) and human rights in contrast to the likes of Ayatollah Khomeini, Osama Bin Ladin, Yusuf Al Qaradawi still celebrated in the Muslim world despite all their evil. Contemporary Muslims like Ahmed Subhy Mansur, Edip Yuksel, Qanta Ahmed, Tarek Fatah, Zuhdi Jasser, Raheel Raza or Irshad Manji have received death threats from Islamists. Not all of them reject Hadith, but they all agree that the mainstream interpretation or teachings of Islam is the root of Islamist aggression/oppression and a revamp or revision of the Islamic narratives is necessary. Some have been declared apostates by the clerics and had to flee their home in the Middle east for political asylum in the West. If they had remained in Iran, Saudi Arabia or Sudan, they might have been dead or rotting in jail by now. I guess we have the Christian West to thank. In Shari'ah compliant societies, a Muslim doesn't need to vocally denounce Islam to be declared an apostate by the clerics. And once declared an apostate, he could be be judicially executed or randomly murdered by any Islamist. |
Re: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by tintingz(m): 9:08am On Jul 13, 2020 |
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