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Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by oweniwe(m): 5:47pm On Feb 02, 2015
tbaba1234:


Praise and thanks are two different things..

If I see a beautiful car, I praise it but I do not thank it.

Goverment is paid to do a job.


ohkkk.....!!....

At least, Ikengawo has shown you enough pictures......!!...

Oya Praise Goodluck Ebele Jonathan nau cheesy

give credit to whom credit is due wink
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by Ikengawo: 5:47pm On Feb 02, 2015
tbaba1234:


Praise and thanks are two different things..

If I see a beautiful car, I praise it but I do not thank it.

Goverment is paid to do a job.


you're actually wrong. Nigeria gets it's money from Oil primarily and overwhelmingly, then imports, then taxes, so this is one of the only places in the world where the 'government is paid to do a job' model doesn't apply

either way yes, government HAS to be accountable to the people which is they it's important to participate in voting and paying your taxes.
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by Ikengawo: 5:50pm On Feb 02, 2015
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Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by oweniwe(m): 5:50pm On Feb 02, 2015
^^ Ikenga......!!.... cheesy

the pics don do biko...

There's nothing to prove again
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by Ikengawo: 5:57pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:
^^ Ikenga......!!.... cheesy

the pics don do biko...

There's nothing to prove again




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Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by tbaba1234: 6:06pm On Feb 02, 2015
Ikengawo:


you're actually wrong. Nigeria gets it's money from Oil primarily and overwhelmingly, then imports, then taxes, so this is one of the only places in the world where the 'government is paid to do a job' model doesn't apply

either way yes, government HAS to be accountable to the people which is they it's important to participate in voting and paying your taxes.

If Government is accountable to the people then they are doing a job for the people, not the other way round...
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by Adegbodolu1: 6:24pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:

...

Wetin you dey do for Abeokuta?

Your village & state no big reach?

Watch your mouth and your back, thats my home town, you here
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by LajaLaba: 6:53pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:


you just gave yourself a hot slap

to praise and to thank is not the same..??...

Wayo Allah....

Now i can see why people saying that Buhari is not Literate.
undecided undecided
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by oweniwe(m): 6:56pm On Feb 02, 2015
Adegbodolu1:


Wetin you dey do for Abeokuta?

Your village & state no big reach?

Watch your mouth and your back, thats my home town, you here

werey ni bobo yi o

kini mo se fun e to je ki o cross mi le'se bayi?

Tin ba fun e ni igbati, ori e a reset angry

St. Peters Private school Olomore is my primary school, African Church Grammar School (Afro) na is my alma mata. Family house is at Ayetoro road in Lafenwa.....

So ara e daada....

Its not everybody on on nairaland that is "dunce" like you

oloshi......!!... angry
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by Adminisher: 6:58pm On Feb 02, 2015
I have written it many times since late 2013, you have to be a landlocked, inner city, unexposed, ignorant, Nigerian system destiny changed, irredeemably local, uneducated, blank and clueless fooool to call what is happening to Railways in Nigeria as TRANSFORMATION. The president can use that expression because he himself does not know better. All the NRC is doing is just achieving part of their annual business plan and they have not even started on 30% of what they should be doing.
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by Ikengawo: 6:58pm On Feb 02, 2015
tbaba1234:


If Government is accountable to the people then they are doing a job for the people, not the other way round...

right, but your use of tax as a justification isn't accurate.
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by mikolo80: 7:36pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:


NRC was never completely grounded..??..

you don't know jack about your country....!!...

NRC was like the Nigeria Airways and NITEL.... Grounded..... you can as well say NITEL is not completely grounded now..... undecided grin

well, since you dont appreciate the little rail services you have now....

Oya go and pack all the trains and throw them into the Atlantic Ocean.. angry

you're doing like MKO Abiola.... Forget the presidency...... Take your freedom.... Walk away.... Go meet your wives and childrem.... He insisted he wanted presidency.... Where is he now?

You have some trains running and you're still compalaning..... Maybe na when a fully loaded Dangote Cement truck hit you, that is when you will appreciate the little train services we have in the country.....

Some people just like to criticize for the sake of criticising.... If you need N100k for a project and someone give you N10k....

If you say thank you, heaven will not fall wink
criticism is what makes us better
not praising mediocrity
the moment you are satisfied you are dead
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by oweniwe(m): 7:41pm On Feb 02, 2015
mikolo80:
criticism is what makes us better
not praising mediocrity
the moment you are satisfied you are dead

okk agreed...

Pls go thru ikengawo's pictures....

All the rail projects there.... Are they mediocrity....??....

Yes or No .....??... smiley
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by mikolo80: 7:46pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:


okk agreed...

Pls go thru ikengawo's pictures....

All the rail projects there.... Are they mediocrity....??....
1 train in lagos
1 train out of 36 states
1 train per day instead of 1 every 5 or 10 minutes.do the math man
and they are not even high speed trains o
guy i understand that when you experience mediocrity for for most of your adult life it is easy to praise even more mediocrity
if you have travelled out or at least stop watching nollywood and see what oyinbo and chinko are achieving you will better understand where we are coming from
it is easy to sell a man in the desert for 1 pure water
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by oweniwe(m): 8:04pm On Feb 02, 2015
mikolo80:

1 train in lagos
1 train out of 36 states
1 train per day instead of 1 every 5 or 10 minutes.do the math man
and they are not even high speed trains o
guy i understand that when you experience mediocrity for for most of your adult life it is easy to praise even more mediocrity
if you have travelled out or at least stop watching nollywood and see what oyinbo and chinko are achieving you will better understand where we are coming from
it is easy to sell a man in the desert for 1 pure water

i said earlier.....

"Do you know that NRC is a corporation
just like former NEPA....??... Look at Nepa
now.... It has been privatized into many
discos.... If you want to see lotta trains running
about, buying more trains is not the
solution.... Change the NRC Act.... Privatize it.... Let
private transport and haulage companies
bring in their own trains.... And pay NRC
for using the system.... Infact, NRC, just
like NCC should only play regulatory
role.... So change those old laws first...
Privatize.... Then things will get
better.........!!..."

you talked about advance countries.... For how many decades has their rail system been running...??...

They are using electric trains abroad.... Nigeria's leaders from Buhari regime in 1982 to ya ardua in 2009..... What effort did they make to improve Nigeria's rail system...??.... nothing....!!... Not even one new wagon was purchased in that period....

If you must blame or criticize anybody for d "basic" state of Nigeria's rail system....,

Blame buhari, babangida, abacha, obasanjo and yar adua.... They did nothing about the rails

GEJ has done his part

give him the credit

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Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by mikolo80: 8:08pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:


i said earlier.....

"Do you know that NRC is a corporation
just like former NEPA....??... Look at Nepa
now.... It has been privatized into many
discos.... If you want to see lotta trains running
about, buying more trains is not the
solution.... Change the NRC Act.... Privatize it.... Let
private transport and haulage companies
bring in their own trains.... And pay NRC
for using the system.... Infact, NRC, just
like NCC should only play regulatory
role.... So change those old laws first...
Privatize.... Then things will get
better.........!!..."


you
was responding to the complaint about criticism
even gmb will be criticised
it s not by getting annoyed with the critics
but by striving to shut them up with action not consoling yourself with 0.5% pass mark and calling that transformation
gsm that was transformation
from 400000 phones to about 60million in 5 years
not 0 trains to 5 locomotives
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by Ikengawo: 8:15pm On Feb 02, 2015
mikolo80:

1 train in lagos
1 train out of 36 states
1 train per day instead of 1 every 5 or 10 minutes.do the math man
and they are not even high speed trains o
guy i understand that when you experience mediocrity for for most of your adult life it is easy to praise even more mediocrity
if you have travelled out or at least stop watching nollywood and see what oyinbo and chinko are achieving you will better understand where we are coming from
it is easy to sell a man in the desert for 1 pure water

Lagos, Kano, Oyo, Ogun, Osun, Kaduna, Abuja Kogi, Rivers, Abia, Enugu, Benue are all covered. Have a good day.

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Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by oweniwe(m): 8:22pm On Feb 02, 2015
mikolo80:
was responding to the complaint about criticism
even gmb will be criticised
it s not by getting annoyed with the critics
but by striving to shut them up with action not consoling yourself with 0.5% pass mark and calling that transformation
gsm that was transformation
from 400000 phones to about 60million in 5 years
not 0 trains to 5 locomotives

Restoring Lagos to Kano.... Gombe-port hacourt within 4 years is = 0.5 pass mark?

Bros.... Go and die cheesy
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by mikolo80: 8:24pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:


Restoring Lagos to Kano.... Gombe-port hacourt within 4 years is = 0.5 pass mark?

Bros.... Go and die cheesy
you did not read the article did you
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by mikolo80: 8:26pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:


Restoring Lagos to Kano.... Gombe-port hacourt within 4 years is = 0.5 pass mark?

Bros.... Go and die cheesy
i live by rail line
train passes about 2ce a week
no be your faault
you from niger delta so i understand
pikin wen never comot him papa farm go talk say na in big pass
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by oweniwe(m): 9:12pm On Feb 02, 2015
mikolo80:

Some people's head are made of pangolo....

I live @ Ikeja and i do see trains running dia... Am ok with that.... Beta dan no trains at all

You're comparing GSM with rail.... Are mtn, glo, etisalat, airtel run by the govt?

you know that you'll have to change the NRC act before private companies can begin to run their trains on the rails....

Now let me ask you.... How many years did it take the FG to change NEPA act to enable them privatize it?

The same people who enacted those repressive, anti-development decrees and laws in the 1970s-80s are the ones you want to vote back into power again.... angry

Look at how they used quota system to destroy d country..... The Land use decree, federal character....

Y dont we have private refineries in Nigeria today? Its is because of useless laws and decrees battered into the constitution by the same Buhari that you people have turned to saint cos he picked a yoruba man as his running mate.....

Am sure you dont even know that Buhari was part of Gowon, Murtala and Abacha regimes.... Those people really messed up the country.....

They started the rot in the education system by taking over Mission schools....

They started the corruption at the ports and petroleum sector when by shutting down our industries/refinaries to award oil blocks and petrol import licenses to their brothers and cronies....

Not one power substation was built by Buhari- abacha....

And you still want to bring them back again.... The same people who ruined your country angry

You're not even ashamed to put "sai buhari" in ur signature.

That is why i said i can now understand why people say Buhari is illiterate..... Even you.... You're an illiterate.... You dont know the history of your country sad

i am sorry for you
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by mikolo80: 10:34pm On Feb 02, 2015
oweniwe:
mikolo80:

Some people's head are made of pangolo....

I live @ Ikeja and i do see trains running dia... Am ok with that.... Beta dan no trains at all

You're comparing GSM with rail.... Are mtn, glo, etisalat, airtel run by the govt?

you know that you'll have to change the NRC act before private companies can begin to run their trains on the rails....

Now let me ask you.... How many years did it take the FG to change NEPA act to enable them privatize it?

The same people who enacted those repressive, anti-development decrees and laws in the 1970s-80s are the ones you want to vote back into power again.... angry

Look at how they used quota system to destroy d country..... The Land use decree, federal character....

Y dont we have private refineries in Nigeria today? Its is because of useless laws and decrees battered into the constitution by the same Buhari that you people have turned to saint cos he picked a yoruba man as his running mate.....

Am sure you dont even know that Buhari was part of Gowon, Murtala and Abacha regimes.... Those people really messed up the country.....

They started the rot in the education system by taking over Mission schools....

They started the corruption at the ports and petroleum sector when by shutting down our industries/refinaries to award oil blocks and petrol import licenses to their brothers and cronies....

Not one power substation was built by Buhari- abacha....

And you still want to bring them back again.... The same people who ruined your country angry

You're not even ashamed to put "sai buhari" in ur signature.

That is why i said i can now understand why people say Buhari is illiterate..... Even you.... You're an illiterate.... You dont know the history of your country sad

i am sorry for you
smh instead of proving your literacy by reading the article you are ranting/insulting(this is how u know someone has lost an argument)
all we said is 0.5% is not transformation
na in u wan give urself stroke
shebi 0.5% is something
eenn na enjoy the something
but dont expect me to praise 0.5% output when you have access to 100% input

ps
when buhari was ther he was trying to fix the root of the problem(corruption) but was removed so his doesnt count in the rot that obj,ibb,etc wrought upon our nation
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by oweniwe(m): 10:57pm On Feb 02, 2015
mikolo80:

ps
when buhari was ther he was trying to fix the root of the problem(corruption)

"by choosing to pay a $500 million fine for breaching the agreement guiding the rail project execution to ensure the Lagos metro rail project was designed by the Jakande government to facilitate transportation within Lagos and surroundings. It was terminated when Buhari military regime took over thus making the country to forfeit a whopping $60 million, which was part of the loan that had been paid by the Jakande administration before Buhari toppled the civilian government."

To import goods into the country, businessmen and women must obtain an import licence from the ministry of commerce. As it turned out, award of import licence was skewed heavily in favour of the North, many of whom had neither any knowledge of importation. gunine importers had to pay heavily to purchase import licenses from middlemen of northern extraction. It is on record that by that singular act, Buhari swept many enterprising traders out of business.

Just imagine Buhari, after being elected.... Say he wants to preserve Nigeria's foreign reserve by reducing imports.... So he say... Before you can bring tokunbo cars, phones, electronics etc into Nigeria, you'll have to obtain license from min of trade.... angry

that was how these refined petroleum products imports started.... Few northern folks... With the license.... Started importing petrol into the country.... That is why there was regular petrol scarcity until Obasanjo deregulated the downstream sector....

Thats is the same buhari you're hailing as corruption fighter.

..................................................................
www.nairaland.com/2127075/ill-ban-importation-rice-tomato

"The presidential candidate of the All
Progressives Congress, Maj.-Gen.
Muhammad Buhari (retd), on Monday
said if elected on February 14, he
would ban the importation of basic
items like rice and tomato in order to enhance local production of the
products."

Instead of increasing port duty on on those products to make them expensive.... Generate more revenue at ports..... Encourage local processing of rice and tomato to international standards, he want to ban and ban...

I agree Nigeria has no biz importin dos stuffs but if you ban them, HOW will you meet local demand? local production cannot meet the demand for rice/tomato.... The price will tripple and then become scarce..... Smuggling will begin to thrive....

To meet Local demand and crash price, he'll then give out import license to few crooks ....

So mikolo80, you can see for yourself that Buhari hasnt changed
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by mikolo80: 4:17pm On Feb 03, 2015
oweniwe:


"by choosing to pay a $500 million fine for breaching the agreement guiding the rail project execution to ensure the Lagos metro rail project was designed by the Jakande government to facilitate transportation within Lagos and surroundings. It was terminated when Buhari military regime took over thus making the country to forfeit a whopping $60 million, which was part of the loan that had been paid by the Jakande administration before Buhari toppled the civilian government."

To import goods into the country, businessmen and women must obtain an import licence from the ministry of commerce. As it turned out, award of import licence was skewed heavily in favour of the North, many of whom had neither any knowledge of importation. gunine importers had to pay heavily to purchase import licenses from middlemen of northern extraction. It is on record that by that singular act, Buhari swept many enterprising traders out of business.

Just imagine Buhari, after being elected.... Say he wants to preserve Nigeria's foreign reserve by reducing imports.... So he say... Before you can bring tokunbo cars, phones, electronics etc into Nigeria, you'll have to obtain license from min of trade.... angry

that was how these refined petroleum products imports started.... Few northern folks... With the license.... Started importing petrol into the country.... That is why there was regular petrol scarcity until Obasanjo deregulated the downstream sector....

Thats is the same buhari you're hailing as corruption fighter.

..................................................................
www.nairaland.com/2127075/ill-ban-importation-rice-tomato

"The presidential candidate of the All
Progressives Congress, Maj.-Gen.
Muhammad Buhari (retd), on Monday
said if elected on February 14, he
would ban the importation of basic
items like rice and tomato in order to enhance local production of the
products."

Instead of increasing port duty on on those products to make them expensive.... Generate more revenue at ports..... Encourage local processing of rice and tomato to international standards, he want to ban and ban...

I agree Nigeria has no biz importin dos stuffs but if you ban them, HOW will you meet local demand? local production cannot meet the demand for rice/tomato.... The price will tripple and then become scarce..... Smuggling will begin to thrive....

To meet Local demand and crash price, he'll then give out import license to few crooks ....

So mikolo80, you can see for yourself that Buhari hasnt changed

so you are happy with the way nigeria is going now abi
well if you are enjoying it fine
me i am not and you can not force me to like it same as i can not force you to see it my way
but can you honestly say you will pray for God to rule your life like Jona is doing today

me i just want somebody to shake pdp out of its slumber
no competition no development
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by Ikengawo: 4:23pm On Feb 03, 2015
Yes, I hope God gives me a university in all of the states in my life, revamps all my blessings like GEJ revamps all ours airports, brings my fortune to life like GEJ brought our trains back, revives my agricultural ventures, and reimburses my hardwork and creativity like Sure P and YouWin
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by chuka5000(m): 4:53pm On Feb 03, 2015
Q: What about passengers?

A: Well the Ministry of Transport says the NRC carried 4.1m illion passengers in 2012 and 4.2million passengers in 2013 but these are actually misleading statistics because we do not use rail statistics in this way. Let me explain. When the NRC says it carried 4million passengers, it does not mean 4million unique people. What it means is that it sold 4million tickets in the year. Now those 4million tickets could be just 10,000 people travelling to work and back everyday from Agbado to Lagos, say Monday to Friday.

In a year, those same 10,000 people would have bought 5million tickets. NRC will then announce that it carried 5million passengers in the year! On the Agbado to Lagos axis alone,







Pls how else can a train passengers be calculated in a given period if not by the tickets.
Ppl keep displaying their stupidity in public places.
Re: ‘ There Is No Transformation In Railway System’ ~ Rowland Ataguba by laudate: 5:42pm On Mar 17, 2015
tbaba1234:


Again, I say, it was NEVER completely grounded. They have always been moving people.

Did you even read.the interview??

Government work is not a gift, It is service to the people. It is an obligation.

Government is funded by people's taxes and is accountable to the people.

If the goverment is pushing something as transformation, the figures should add up.

I do not owe government thank you, for doing its job.


Haba, Bros!! No talk dis kind thing again. The railway tracks ran behind my uncle's house in Kaduna and for many years until 1994, we used to see the trains going back and forth tooting their loud horns, even in the middle of the night. All activity stopped that year!

The trains were dead! angry They were revived briefly in 1997-2001. Then they died a 2nd death. We did not see trains running again on those tracks till 2011.

Anyway, I agree with the last part of your post about government work being an obligation and a service. In fact, they should be thanking the masses for using the trains!! grin

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