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Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by BlackKenichi(m): 4:37am On Jan 02, 2015 |
axum:Yes they are! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubian_people They speak Nilo-Saharan languages Also some Nubians look like the Beja, some look like Northern and Eastern Chadians, some look Nilotic and some look like a mix of all three peoples. 1 Like |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by axum: 4:41am On Jan 02, 2015 |
BlackK[left][/left]enichi: Beja people are Cushitic and despite being all the way in Egypt/Sudan still look like the people in Somalia and still speak Cushitic language. Nubians have no Negroid aside from the Negroid all Humanity has as we are all related. But clearly you try to use this to attach your self to them. Don't hold people down, they don't want to claim you. Pictures of Beja people who are Muslim (despite the Negroids around them being Non Muslim).
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Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by BlackKenichi(m): 5:04am On Jan 02, 2015 |
axum:Wow, you are really stup1d! |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by axum: 7:23am On Jan 02, 2015 |
BlackKenichi: Is that all you can say when faced with scientific facts? Linguistics, genetics, appearance etc all that vs your Negroid Afrocentric opinion and need to feel relevant because your kind have not amounted to nothing more than dirt the realm of world history. |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Maakhir(m): 4:22pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
axum: The map you posted is wrong, by its logic the southern ethiopian tribes are cushtic |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by axum: 9:55pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
Maakhir: How can two maps be wrong. yes, Oromos (the largest ethnic group in ethiopia are Cushitic), so are Harrari, so are Afar, and others.
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Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Maakhir(m): 7:01am On Jan 03, 2015 |
The first map covered the whole of ethiopia, including the southern tribes |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Maakhir(m): 7:16am On Jan 03, 2015 |
KenyanLady: 1.Shes half somali 2.What do you mean never had a father? Are you that desperate to claim her. 3. shes ugly, you can have her ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by axum: 10:54am On Jan 03, 2015 |
Maakhir: You do realize that 80 percent of Ethiopia is inhabited by either Somalis, Oromo or Afar right? Oromo alone are more than half the population. |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by gallivant: 4:32pm On Jan 03, 2015 |
hahaha... Somali stupidity exposed to the world once more.If I was Somali I would hang myself. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Rivertemz: 5:17pm On Jan 03, 2015 |
Axum why are you obsessed with Nigerians ? 1 Like |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Fulaman198(m): 6:54pm On Jan 03, 2015 |
axum: Rofffffl dying from laughter 2 Likes |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Maakhir(m): 5:47am On Jan 04, 2015 |
gallivant: hahaha... If I was you I would be in need of a cliff ASAP ![]() |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by superdog531: 9:59am On Feb 03, 2015 |
First of all i'd like to start by mentioning that im north sudanese and a resident in khartoum.We are not related to somalis we may have some similar features but that is because of race mixing with the arabs.We are mixed nubian(nilo saharan) and arab.Here in Sudan we do not hate bantus we much prefer them over the horners Sudanese can range in color and hair texture all the way from jet black(azrag)with kinky hair to olive white(halab) with straight hair the reason for the atrocities in the south was cause religion not race once there was much racism towards the but that has died out now and now there is very extreme hate towards horners. I have brown skin and straights hair and consider myself a mix of bantu and arab are feature are very mixed The bejas in the east of sudan may be related because there land was under control by the horners but the rest are not 2 Likes |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Nobody: 3:03pm On Feb 03, 2015 |
superdog531: Is there any reasons why horners are disliked? |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by superdog531: 3:15pm On Feb 03, 2015 |
KidStranglehold: I'm not sure but most Sudanese consider themselves better |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by TerryCarr(m): 6:11pm On Feb 03, 2015 |
KidStranglehold:because of their fake superiority complex |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by ababda: 6:37pm On Feb 03, 2015 |
superdog531: Although i grew up in New Zealand, but my family is from Northern Sudan. However to be perfectly honest i never ever heard the expression bantus until i came on the internet because no one in Sudan as i noticed ever use that expression or give a damn about that.. Indeed, we do range in colors, but visiting the Sudan National Museum in Khartoum while visiting my family the Christian art look very identical to the people now, why is that you think? For example this, and you see this and other art works in the second floor of the Museum, i pretty much go there every time i visit my family, to relax my mind, although they need to do something in regards to the air condition system. Christian art before Middle Nile valley became predominant islamic. http://blog.britishmuseum.org/2014/08/08/death-the-great-equaliser-christianity-on-the-middle-nile/ http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006433/portrait-of-saint-jiovanus-xisostomos Sudanese regardless of complexion http://sudanembassy.com.pk/ar/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Afra-mool.jpg http://sudanembassy.com.pk/ar/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AB-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A/ We have to be realistic, which i am and not deny the obvious. However to say that as a result to mixing is to deny ourselves, as i said to members here most Sudanese don't have anything against other African groups including horners, although many Ethiopians and Eritrean work as maids for rich people and other activities which i will not mention. Lastly, many musicians such as Teddy(Ethiopian) is pretty much popular in Sudan, and many people within our own forums will disagree with you on that one, but you can politely debates this within our forums on instragram, sudan net, and facebook. Genetic Diversity of a Certain Ethinic Group is done by DNA & Genetic studies. Sudanese & Etiopian has the highest Gene DIVERSITY = 24. http://sudanforum.net/showthread.php?t=171155&page=8 http://sudanforum.net/showthread.php?t=177873 You can politely debate us there in Arabic and English, my arabic is bad, speak but cannot write which is a shame on my part, but i have my cousin help me in translation on facebook, and many other Sudanese on instragram is helping me with my arabic, which is great. |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by ababda: 6:39pm On Feb 03, 2015 |
superdog531: That i agree with, and realitically we have to deal with our regional issues within Sudan, and if you are from the North as you say, you know how some people view other people from the other regions, not all people but some. |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Nobody: 9:41pm On Feb 03, 2015 |
Maakhir: How many times do I have to repeat myself? Huddah Monroe is not half Somali, She was born out of wedlock and has never met her biological father, She was raised by her mother and Kikuyu stepfather which means She grew up without a biological father. leave her alone. superdog531: You are over exaggerating. |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by ArtanK(m): 3:09am On Feb 04, 2015 |
TerryCarr: Oh please, a lot of Nigerians are no different. Ajuran just teases you guys with silly things like hair and nose shapes. |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by TerryCarr(m): 3:56am On Feb 04, 2015 |
ArtanK:i read this is common among honers |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by gallivant: 5:35am On Feb 04, 2015 |
KidStranglehold: LOL..what do you think?Do you like the few horners that you know? |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by superdog531: 9:17am On Feb 04, 2015 |
ababda: Sudan isn't exactly racism free its true they don't like anyone who is different in the time I have been here I've seen alot of racism towards the surrounding countries I attend college here where people are more educated but their is still racism Even to our own people if you are too light skinned you'll be called halabi(in a derogatory way) and if you're too black you'll be called abd |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by superdog531: 9:49am On Feb 04, 2015 |
ababda: My use of the word bantu here is incorrect bantu is language group the correct the to say is nilo saharan these aren't used in Sudan I bare no ill feelings towards somali or other africans most Sudanese people are very kind but their is much discrimination towards horners mostly Habesha but somalis also face similar racism Its true that Ethiopian music is enjoyed I listen to it sometimes About the painting with the nubian queen notice her hair that isn't very common among the women of modern Sudan I have seen some paintings here in Sudan I'm not sure from when but it shows a nubian woman with african features with a baby or a nubian warrior Also good luck in learning arabic |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by ababda: 10:00am On Feb 04, 2015 |
superdog531:. You have to go to the Sudan National Museum on the second floor, and the features of the women is very common and lets not deny that. For example this is our people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxjlCGrs6WM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBveQ84hC6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6f0wxHeWlU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoVSf7MoGw4 Which i have no apology for. Also good luck in learning arabic I can speak, but i definitely need to learn how to write, but the guys in facebook is helping me a great deal. Thanks. ![]() Actually enjoyed this performance from Egypt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbNmHrdkblU |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by ababda: 10:21am On Feb 04, 2015 |
superdog531: I somewhat agree to disagree, i am not into airing out our problems on a foreign forum, within our own social spaces yes, we can debate those issues. Superdog531 I may send you a link of our facebook and instragram page. I like your spirit, it is good to have different views, with your views it is going to be a great deal of debate. LOL |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by Nobody: 4:55pm On Feb 04, 2015 |
ababda, While I don't feel knowledgeable enough to get involved in this race question as it concerns the Sudanese people, I still have to point out that some of the lighter-coloured people in the paintings from Christian Nubia were not native Nubians, but high-ranking churchmen from Egypt or the Byzantine world (like John the Golden Voice depicted in the second link) or early non-Nubian Christian saints. Like i'm sure you know the top echelon of Church administration in Christian Nubia (as well as early Ethiopia) were filled mostly with Egyptians, and one has to carefully distinguish them in the artworks from the natives. 2 Likes |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by ababda: 6:44pm On Feb 04, 2015 |
Radoillo: Radoillo, they are nubians through and through. All the painting is on the second floor of Sudan National Museum. However the majority of the painting is not posted on the internet of eparch, queen mothers, and bishops. For example this. [img]http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-RW006429.jpg?size=67&uid=ea01e545-05f3-4f00-a731-2cbe493a5241[/img] Painting of Christ Protecting a Nubian Prince in Faras Basilica, Sudanhttp://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006429/painting-of-christ-protecting-a-nubian-prince?irpid=27795 [img]http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-RW006426.jpg?size=67&uid=6fafd2a1-f891-4781-9f29-40952804bac6[/img] Painting of Nubian Queen with the Virgin and Child http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006426/painting-of-nubian-queen-with-the-virgin ![]() [img]https://britishmuseumblog.files./2014/08/anderson-pl-2_544.jpg?w=544&h=1539[/img] Wall painting of a Nubian queen protected by the Virgin Mary and Child (Sudan National Museum 24362) http://blog.britishmuseum.org/2014/08/08/death-the-great-equaliser-christianity-on-the-middle-nile/ ![]() lighter-coloured peopleIt should never be about skin color, which is redundant. The excavation is done by Sudanese and Polish team, which still covers the monuments in that period. Again you see all these painting and more at the National Museum in Sudan on the second floor if you visit. This is suppose to be about a wedding, and not about the history of the nile region. |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by TerryCarr(m): 6:56pm On Feb 04, 2015 |
to be fair Christianity did come from a light skin part of the world |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by ababda: 7:06pm On Feb 04, 2015 |
TerryCarr: Indeed i don't think skin color was a factor for them, at the same time the rulership still represented themselves as naturally they were. While the saints was represented by the Byzantium ideal or standards. That pretty much what is written in the Museum under the picture art in Khartoum. |
Re: Somali-Sudanese Wedding by axum: 8:36am On Mar 09, 2015 |
My thread has been hijacked by a Sudanese Girl. Are you in America dear? 1 Like |
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