neoapocalypse:


You do know you're stooping low yourself , learn to be civil in your choice of words , calling someone an eidiot and a monkey isn't so civil.

manny4life:


It's so much easier for option 1, if that were the case, divorce proceedings will be end on the first day or even the first week of hearing. Women who came into this country understood why they came: most knew exactly what their role was. If the man and woman had an understanding for the woman to be the caretaker of the house while he's the hustler, but when she arrives, she changes plan. Why then blame the man? This is what leads to marriage wahala.... Then the woman wants to be Mrs. independent but can't find the balance to maintain her household.. As for murder, it isn't right but let's face it... IT HAPPENS and something led to it.

mutter:


No justification for murder or violence in any form or on any person. No that is not what I am trying to say at all .
However even the law recognizes things like provocation and someone can totally loose control, become insane, snap.

At the end of the day of what use is it if it was justified or not. The poor woman is dead and no one can bring her back.
I actually am mad that women get exposed to such dangers and also that they expose themselves to such dangers
Indeed even their families encourage them to discard the man and send the money home to them.

If he had killed me I would have come back to hunt my family and society for putting that pressure on women to stay in a marriage

carefreewannabe:
Divorce is such a lucrative job when you are not the one who is working. I wonder why not more men stay at home, take care of the kids, divorce and get rich.

Kedam:
ummm so u think divorce is more easy for men, if it is there is no need for murdering their spouse

manny4life:


Exactly my point... It will be easy if the women just walked away with nothing, but when I lived in DC, I saw a bitter marriage pushing this far. The woman threatened to deal with the man because the man lied on some papers that brought her to the U.S., how callous can people be? She threatened hell and what not, it took the grace of God for the man not to react to killing his wife. Imagine losing your children, your money, house, everything you have labored for...

tpiah11:


bro, you do not presume to know where i live and neither do i want to know how any such thing works, let the lawyers and criminal justice system handle that. That is what they were trained for. After you do the crime, people will tell you how to do the time.



the law recognizes no such thing as cold blooded premeditated murder, and neither does karma.

like i pointed out before, people's background matters a lot, unfortunately the love of money makes some folks enter marriages without conducting proper checks.

if you are not a witch, dont marry a witch.

mutter:


The men married them because when before they got out they acted all humble or probably even where, but then their eyes opened.
I see some when they come newly "sir, daddy" and after a few months, "useless man".

How does a man become the kind of man that commands respect? Every human being commands respect. In accordance with our tradition every man commands respect from every woman and men have a different status in society. Did the woman not take a vow to submit to him or better for worse?
When you do the wine carrying why do you go down on your knees? Is that just a show, a body movement. It is a promise to the man made before your family and his that you would submit to the man and go down for him. The man does not have to command his respect it is your duty as his wife.

Divorcing them would mean loosing everything, even custody of the kid`s. That is how it functions. The man would loose everything he built up. He not only looses it but looses it to someone he built up who turned around to destroy him.

coogar:


your number 1 is not applicable.

with these women, there's no clean break. go your way & she goes her ways? for where? she won't let you go without destroying you.

the man that shot his wife called the cops herself and said "I have killed the woman that wanted to destroy my life"

that speaks volumes!

aisha2:
What happens here is what happens abroad.

Woman works with man to build a life, marries him poor, invests her money her youth her energy. Man hits it big, she suddenly isn't good enough, he throws her out and marries younger lover, she has nothing, old and tired she watches a younger woman enjoy the fruits of her labor and dies in misery and heart break.

Abroad, man hustles for years, makes enough money goes home picks a young " submissive" bride. They go abroad she sees the system goes crazy, kicks him out she doesn't need him, she earns a lot more, gets younger man, he is out in the cold, everything he works for gone with the wind, he is starting all over at 60 while pne young man is enjoying all he worked for all his life.

Its the same situation only difference is we hardly see headlines of " increase in rates of wives murdering their husband's " down here while the second one has loads of reports with people applauding and defending it

Sophyrocks:


Thank you ooo. Thank you very much!. At last!! A male who is more humane and not a murderer. Too many murderers in this thread that need to be shot by firing squad!! May God bless you for this comment. Say amen o!

mutter:


Well women are doing it and have been doing it.
All the men that dies mysterious deaths in Nigeria. I wonder how many were poisoned?
Women kill their husbands and even their children sometimes. It does happen.
Look in certain parts of Nigeria, they take these children to spiritual churches and claim they are evil and witches and get the children tortured and even killed. Women that throw away their babies.

This is not a "man thing".

AreaFada2:


Well, in 9ja, there are many ways to go about killing a husband. In some cases, commit adultery that is a taboo and that kills the man. Some people may scoff at it but it is true is some part of 9ja like Edo. In certain places a wife's adultery is a killer.

Babalawo is probably the most common. The man is dead before you know it.

Then you have hired killers 10 for 2 kobo all over 9ja.

So yes, some women do kill their men in 9ja only not with horror film style shooting or stabbing.

manny4life:


Exactly my point... It will be easy if the women just walked away with nothing, but when I lived in DC, I saw a bitter marriage pushing this far. The woman threatened to deal with the man because the man lied on some papers that brought her to the U.S., how callous can people be? She threatened hell and what not, it took the grace of God for the man not to react to killing his wife. Imagine losing your children, your money, house, everything you have labored for...

carefreewannabe:


What makes it difficult?

5minsmadness:


Modified. Never mind.
Wait...
I cant believe you said this.

raumdeuter:


Would the woman refund the cost of housing she lived in for free for the period of marriage? rent is about $1,000 per month

Would the woman refund the cost of food she ate during this time? Feeding for one adult range from $300 to $600 per month

WOuld she refund the cost of the utilities she enjoyed like light cable electricity that was paid for during this time?

She gets $1,000 to $3000 per month, She refunds $1,200 for rent, $700 for feeding, $500 for other bills (Light cable water), $200 for fueling her car, $500 for other miscellaneous expenses

Whats the balance?

Fhemmmy:


[b]Oga at the top, that is not totally true, if the man is leaving in the morning and leave the woman with a credit card with no limit to go and shop, trust me, the plan will NOT change . . . now jokes apart, the woman is here and has family back home iin Nigeria, tell me, is the husband ready to cater for all the members of her family and even the rats and roaches that comes with her baggage? i guess NOT . . . so where will such woman that the entire family or even community expect so much from will be able to take care of her expected responsibilities back home, such expectations causes the change, not cos she is a hustler.

Besides, only handful of our men are capable to taking care of the house financially without the help of the woman, so the woman dont wanna be a couch potato.

I have seen reaction of our men after a tough day and they are back home, they will use frustration of what their boss did at work to turn the woman into a mess . . . so if you are such a woman, wont you go out there to get a job?

While divorce aint easy, i will take that ANYTIME over killing my wife . . . . [/b]

manny4life:


Lot's of options? Which are? I don't think you understand the depressive state most of these men go through; granted murder isn't an option, but their physiological state could trigger something else. It's easy to say there are options until you wear the shoes, when people are pushed to the wall, it takes every restraint in them not to act upon their evil.

manny4life:


Please, let's forget the argument about where you live... If you claim not to live here, so be it.

I don't know how many murder trials you have watched, followed, or read about, but in some cases, these are NOT premeditated. Good lawyers have presented facts about threats, physical and mental abuse, although the murderer will not go free, he has a reduced sentence. It has happened and still happens. Instead of getting life in prison, he get 10 - 15 years with option of parole... Look it up. I won't argue this.

Fhemmmy:


[b]Oga at the top, that is not totally true, if the man is leaving in the morning and leave the woman with a credit card with no limit to go and shop, trust me, the plan will NOT change . . . now jokes apart, the woman is here and has family back home iin Nigeria, tell me, is the husband ready to cater for all the members of her family and even the rats and roaches that comes with her baggage? i guess NOT . . . so where will such woman that the entire family or even community expect so much from will be able to take care of her expected responsibilities back home, such expectations causes the change, not cos she is a hustler.

Besides, only handful of our men are capable to taking care of the house financially without the help of the woman, so the woman dont wanna be a couch potato.

I have seen reaction of our men after a tough day and they are back home, they will use frustration of what their boss did at work to turn the woman into a mess . . . so if you are such a woman, wont you go out there to get a job?

While divorce aint easy, i will take that ANYTIME over killing my wife . . . . [/b]

Kedam:
loosing everything they ever worked for.

Kedam:
loosing everything they ever worked for.

coogar:


do i need to subtitle my last reply to you or something? you don't have to talk to me to call out your idiöcy - my freedom of speech guarantees that.

when they say women are their own worst enemies, you scream like a rhesus monkey. you are using another woman's past ugly ordeals against her in public just to make yourself feel cool?

how could you stoop so low?

Fhemmmy:


How do you define destroying you . . . She will walk away with half of what you own . . . there is a law to ALL these and we all know that, if you smart enough to know that she is not the one for you within a year of being together . . . look more into the law that she will use to take all you have . . . BUT assuming she has been with you, fed you, warm your bed and carry your kids in her womb for like 10 years, and TELL ME IF SHE DOES NOT DESERVE HALF OF WHAT YOU OWN . . . besides, what you think you own are jointly owned . . . . Most men wanna do Nija style - Get out of my house, Na lie, it is a family home that belongs to you, her and the kids, and God forbid divorce, but if it happens, you want the woman to now go and look for a house with the kids, while you reside in the house like a king? Na lie . . . wont happen.

EyesWideOpen:

You're a cockslurping arsehole!
Your freedom of speech give you the right to say trash against someone exercising their own right to free speech, what does that say about you? You've cockslurped your sense away to the point you're confused as to what you stand for.
Arsehole cockslurper!

neoapocalypse:


Going by you my dad should be dead and buried by now with what I went through with him , very few can withstand what he did to me , and here I am today , loving , living and obviously not in prison. This forum might be faceless but a lot of us have been through equally and maybe more traumatizing experiences in life but we chose not to be controlled by our rage. Yes , I have worn those shoes and it has made me stronger not madder

coogar:


to every action, there's a reaction.
judges who send serial killers to their deaths are not murderers.

same logic applies......

Fhemmmy:


How do you define destroying you . . . She will walk away with half of what you own . . . there is a law to ALL these and we all know that, if you smart enough to know that she is not the one for you within a year of being together . . . look more into the law that she will use to take all you have . . . BUT assuming she has been with you, fed you, warm your bed and carry your kids in her womb for like 10 years, and TELL ME IF SHE DOES NOT DESERVE HALF OF WHAT YOU OWN . . . besides, what you think you own are jointly owned . . . . Most men wanna do Nija style - Get out of my house, Na lie, it is a family home that belongs to you, her and the kids, and God forbid divorce, but if it happens, you want the woman to now go and look for a house with the kids, while you reside in the house like a king? Na lie . . . wont happen.

mutter ost=30384025:
When you have nothing to live for, then you have everything to die for!

The fact that it keeps happening shows that the men are not all suddenly going mad.

A man that had worked so hard brought his much younger wife here to Germany, when they come to church the wife was so rude to the man, perhaps because she was better educated. I quickly grabbed hold of her and drew her aside. I warned her that her husband was respected in this community and if she ever tried it again where I was I would shred her to bits. Foolish girl!

These greedy bitches accept a man they do not love and are ashamed of just to get out of Nigeria and then they want to ruin the man.
Do you know that these men have worked so hard for so many years! Received all kinds of insults from society and then you bring this young girl and she gives you the final insult to let you know you are = 0.
How many of them come here with nothing and soon the man is out of his own home on the streets and having to pay maintenance.
When the study in America, they are able to do so because the man brought them there.
Nursing is not even a good paying job, like any menial job you can gather money if you work enough hours. While they are at work they cannot perform as wife`s so of what use is the work if it does not benefit the family?

No matter how educated or how much money they have a woman must humble herself and treat her husband with the utmost respect in all situations. That is not just good for the man but also for the children. The children are raised in an environment where the learn respect and manners.
That is what you get when a man that has struggled for years gets dragged into the mud in his own home. A man that has struggled and faced discrimination and abuse outside. Treat him like a king at home so that he can feel like the man he is, that will give him the strength to keep struggling.
Instead these women get rude, function like they don`t have a family, neglect the welfare of their husbands and homes and go running after the dollars.

mutter:
When you have nothing to live for, then you have everything to die for!

The fact that it keeps happening shows that the men are not all suddenly going mad.

A man that had worked so hard brought his much younger wife here to Germany, when they come to church the wife was so rude to the man, perhaps because she was better educated. I quickly grabbed hold of her and drew her aside. I warned her that her husband was respected in this community and if she ever tried it again where I was I would shred her to bits. Foolish girl!

These greedy bitches accept a man they do not love and are ashamed of just to get out of Nigeria and then they want to ruin the man.
Do you know that these men have worked so hard for so many years! Received all kinds of insults from society and then you bring this young girl and she gives you the final insult to let you know you are = 0.
How many of them come here with nothing and soon the man is out of his own home on the streets and having to pay maintenance.
When the study in America, they are able to do so because the man brought them there.
Nursing is not even a good paying job, like any menial job you can gather money if you work enough hours. While they are at work they cannot perform as wife`s so of what use is the work if it does not benefit the family?

No matter how educated or how much money they have a woman must humble herself and treat her husband with the utmost respect in all situations. That is not just good for the man but also for the children. The children are raised in an environment where the learn respect and manners.
That is what you get when a man that has struggled for years gets dragged into the mud in his own home. A man that has struggled and faced discrimination and abuse outside. Treat him like a king at home so that he can feel like the man he is, that will give him the strength to keep struggling.
Instead these women get rude, function like they don`t have a family, neglect the welfare of their husbands and homes and go running after the dollars.