dharyour93:
SAD!!! I pray Boko Haram doesn't grow to this extent.

keep quiet if u don't know what to say. This is Nigeria and not Iraq.

Islamabaaaaaaad. RIP bro

God deliver us all from ignorance. I am done defending my religion against criticism and condemnation. I have lost people dear to me (muslims) to these beasts who perpetuate evil in the name of Islam. Perfection does not begin to describe my faith, what man decides to make of it is purely up him.

It seems a lot of people in the forum don't know their history very well if violence in the name of religion can only be attributed to Islam.

omonnakoda:
Islam is a religion of Peace

we know and your people are proving it to us

dragan:


http://www.islam101.com/terror/verse8_12.htm

Others have made sites to address your issues with the Quran so if you really wanted to know you could have easily went there. What more do you want me to say?

Although im gonna guess most of you rather choose to follow what sites like these say - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. You know since the ldiot that made the site is such an expert on Islam not just a hateful ldiot that goes as far as to create a site to express his 'opinions' while presenting them as facts.

simple question I asked. Just do justice with interpretation of Quran 8:12;29

dragan:


http://www.islam101.com/terror/verse8_12.htm

Others have made sites to address your issues with the Quran so if you really wanted to know you could have easily went there. What more do you want me to say?

Although im gonna guess most of you rather choose to follow what sites like these say - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. You know since the ldiot that made the site is such an expert on Islam not just a hateful ldiot that goes as far as to create a site to express his 'opinions' while presenting them as facts.

In short you cannot or will not answer a simple question.
The fact is that when Muslims come and tell us that it is unIslamic to kil because the Quran says to kill a person is like killing the whole of Humanity we respond that that does not apply if that person has been spreading corruption. So Muslims need to speak out about Corruption and DEFINE it

Is it corruption if a woman does not wear Hijab
Is it corruption to operate a beer parlour
Is it corruption to sell Pornography
Is it corruption to operate a brothel
In short is it corruption not to have SHARIA LAW
Is it corruption to burn the Quran
WHAT IS CORRUPTION??
Is it Corruption to cartoon Mohameed
Is it corruption IF YOU DO NOT OWN A BLUE AND WHITE KETTLE

notoriousbabe:
we know and your people are proving it to us

My people who are my people? are you well?

crackhouse:
keep quiet if u don't know what to say. This is Nigeria and not Iraq.

Lol. Are you saying because this is Nigeria and not Iraq, we should ignore Boko Haram and watch it grow into another Al Qaeda?

cronsberg:

I don't know where you got the verse that people who spread corruption should be killed. But in any case, ask China why they hang corrupt officials.
To my understanding, corruption in the islamic perspective can be anything from encouraging theft, making and selling harmful substances, creating por.nogr.aphy e.t.c there is corruption of stealing, aswell as corrupting peoples mind and hearts. Russia for example considers movies and adverts promoting homosexuality as corrupting their culture and values thus they ban any movie, music, NGO that promotes those kind of things.

The verse is in the Quran and I supplied it so according to you it is okay to kill Gay people or those selling porn. Is it corruption if I do not own a white and blue plastic kettle??

omonnakoda:
I think you need to do a lot more reading and research into the ORIGIN of the BIBLE. The claim that there is a NEW TESTAMENT or an OLD one is superficial and BOGUS. There are 27 books in the bible new testament and some debate about who wrote each one. Leaving that debate to one side we know they were NOT written by one person so the question is this.

WHEN( in what year) did those 27 books get collected into one volume and by

WHOM also

WHO was it that first introduced the term NEW TESTAMENT and

WHEN

There is no internal validity to the concept of NEW TESTAMENT or NEW COVENANT without provoking contradictions

God in the Bible says he does NOT change. Malachi 3.6
Jesus himself said
Matthew5.18 For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.

So this Christian Idea of a new or reformed or Born again God is inconsistent.

The real question I ask most so called Christian is this which none can answer.

Is the so called old Testament old and to be discarded or are its contents a part of Christianity. In the latter case hhow do we know what to use and what not to use or do we go "as the spirit guides".

Both the old and new testament made the Bible. You cant live purely on one without making reference to the other. Why are you confused? New Testament was not smuggled into the Old Testament or vice versa. The renewed covenant didn't just come into being. God has spoken in several books of Old Testament through his prophets concerning it. Study and understand Christ's response when asked if he came to destroy the old testament. He stated that he came to fulfill it, and that's why he summarized whole commandments to simpler one which reflects true love of God and human kind and genuine worship of him.

WHITE-WASHING ISLAM.
One religion today regularly motivates large numbers of its followers to murder, behead, rape, and enslave people across the globe. That religion is Islam. Not Christianity. Not Judaism. Not Buddhism. Islam. Only Islam. You know this. I know this. Everyone paying attention knows this.

The Koran explicitly and repeatedly commands Muslims to engage in jihad or “holy war” whether they like it or not. “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know” (e.g., 2:216, 9:38). The Koran explicitly and repeatedly commands Muslims to “kill the unbelievers wherever you find them” (e.g., 2:191, 9:5), “strike off their heads” (e.g., 8:12, 47:4), make sex slaves of their wives and daughters (e.g., 4:24, 33:50), and continue this jihad “until all opposition ends and all submit to ‘Allah’” (e.g., 8:39, 9:29). You know this. I know this. Everyone paying attention knows this.

According to Islam, the “Prophet” Muhammad is the ideal role model for all boys and men; he sets the perfect example for how to live and wage jihad. Muhammad regularly killed and beheaded unbelievers (e.g., the massacre of Banu Qurayza), made slaves of those he conquered but didn’t kill (he had many slaves), “married" slave girls (e.g., Safiyah and Rayhana), children as young as nine years old (e.g., Aisha)were not spared, and founded a religion in which all such behavior is regarded as morally great because the “Prophet” did it. You know this. I know this. Everyone paying attention knows this.

Of course, not all Muslims engage in the above-mentioned behavior. But this does not change the fact that Islamic scripture commands or condones such behavior. It simply means that some Muslims don’t take Islam seriously. For that we can be thankful.

Unfortunately, as anyone can see by glancing at the news, many Muslims do take Islam seriously. Jihadists across the globe—from the Middle East to Africa to the United States to Canada—are murdering, beheading, enslaving, and raping “infidels” wherever and whenever they can. And these jihadists are supported by Islamic theocracies such as Iran and Saudi Arabia, which encourage and fund such barbarism.

Everyone paying attention knows at least that much. Granted, some know it in greater detail than others. But everyone with a functioning mind who has not been asleep since September 11, 2001, has a basic understanding of the foregoing facts.

Yet many people—from leaders of the (semi-)free world to leftist intellectuals, journalists, and celebrities—pretend otherwise. George W. Bush, for instance, says “Islam is peace” and a “noble faith.” Barack Obama says “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance”; “Islam is not part of the problem” but “an important part of promoting peace.” David Cameron says “Islam is a religion of peace”; jihadists such as members of Islamic State “are not Muslims” but “monsters.”

Leftists such as Glenn Greenwald, Nathan Lean, Nicholas Kristof, and Ben Affleck go further. They not only pretend that Islam is not inherently barbaric; they also smear those who point out that it is inherently barbaric. If you call Islam or its serious practitioners barbaric—heck, if you so much as say “Islam is the mother lode of bad ideas,” as Sam Harris recently did—the leftist smear brigade will label you “Islamophobic” (as if fear of Muslims who actively seek to kill you were irrational); “racist” (as if Islam were a race rather than a religion); “intolerant” (as if you should put up with people who seek to behead, enslave, or rape you and your loved ones); and all manner of other absurdities. Leftists will also point out that, like the Koran, the Talmud and the Bible contain commandments to kill unbelievers, homosexuals, and other “sinners,” and that these books also condone slavery and the like—as if such truths somehow change the fact that today only Islam motivates large numbers of its followers and, indeed, entire nations to murder and enslave people in the name of “God.”

Why do so many people pretend not to know what they know about Islam and its unique role in the world today? Why do so many smear those who speak the truth about this horrendous religion and its devout followers? Why do so many ignore the fact that although other religions involve barbaric commandments, none motivates large numbers of its followers to commit atrocities the way Islam does today?

We can only speculate as to people’s motives on this count. Perhaps some feel that by pretending not to know what they know about Islam they can somehow make Islam not be what it is. Perhaps some have accepted the religious dogma “Judge not, that ye be not judged” or the relativist mantra “Who are you to judge?” and thus are afraid to judge or think for themselves. Perhaps some see that to criticize Islam for its irrational, faith-based tenets is to expose the fundamental illegitimacy of religion as such, and they are hesitant to do that. Perhaps some loathe freedom, America, and Western values and see the spread of Islam as a way to help eradicate these “problems.” Again, we can only speculate.

Whatever people’s motives, these facts remain: (1) To pretend not to know what one knows is to be dishonest. (2) When we know that a person is being dishonest, we have a selfish, moral responsibility to acknowledge the fact and to judge him as dishonest. (3) When a person is dishonest in a way that intentionally whitewashes a religion that commands its followers to murder, enslave, or rape us or our loved ones—or when a person smears people for stating the unvarnished truth about that religion—we have a selfish, moral responsibility to judge that person as evil.

Just as we have a moral responsibility not only to judge Nazism and its serious practitioners as evil, but also to judge those who whitewash them as evil; so too we have a moral responsibility not only to judge Islam and its serious practitioners as evil, but also to judge those who whitewash them as evil. There are, of course, degrees of evil among such whitewashers—but those degrees are degrees of evil. People who knowingly whitewash evil are by that fact and to that extent evil.

We who want to live and love life have a selfish, moral responsibility not only to say what we know to be true about Islam and its serious practitioners, but also to say what we know to be true about those who seek to whitewash them.

Islam condones evil because (among other reasons) it commands or condones murder, slavery, rape, and the like; Muslims who take Islam seriously and thus seek to engage in such barbarism are evil for doing so; and those who whitewash these evils are evil for their part in advancing this god-awful nightmare.

We who know this should say so. Keeping silent on the matter effectively whitewashes the whitewashers.

Rexyl:


Both the old and new testament made the Bible. You cant live purely on one without making reference to the other. Why are you confused? New Testament was not smuggled into the Old Testament or vice versa. The renewed covenant didn't just come into being. God has spoken in several books of Old Testament through his prophets concerning it. Study and understand Christ's response when asked if he came to destroy the old testament. He stated that he came to fulfill it, and that's why he summarized whole commandments to simpler one which reflects true love of God and human kind and genuine worship of him.

Please answer the Very specific questions I asked so I won't be confused as you claim. No speeches or platitudes Just answer the questions and say so if you do not have answers.

Christ never talked about old testament WHO was it that CHRISTENED it OLD that is one of my questions.

He went into the Temple and read from the "scriptures"

Who was it that elevated the 27 books of the "NEW" testament to SCRIPTURE status AFTER JESUS HAD DIED and when did that happen ? If you do not know say so stop trying to bluff

In WHAT YEAR DID THE NEW TESTAMENT START CIRCULATING ? DO YOU KNOW? YES OR NO

I suggest you research the CHRISTIAN CANON

Papa GOD intervene, this is too much. Proper evil world. How could one be proud of Islamic religion?

omonnakoda:


Please answer the Very specific questions I asked so I won't be confused as you claim. No speeches or platitudes Just answer the questions and say so if you do not have answers.

Christ never talked about old testament WHO was it that CHRISTENED it OLD that is one of my questions.

He went into the Temple and read from the "scriptures"

Who was it that elevated the 27 books of the "NEW" testament to SCRIPTURE status AFTER JESUS HAD DIED and when did that happen ? If you do not know say so stop trying to bluff

In WHAT YEAR DID THE NEW TESTAMENT START CIRCULATING ? DO YOU KNOW? YES OR NO

I suggest you research the CHRISTIAN CANON

As you know Jesus started his ministry with the old testament, but you might not know that close to the time of his departure he completed it and sent disciples forth with new testament, directly spoken by him.


JESUS HIMSELF MENTIONED NEW TESTAMENT AND COMMISSIONED DISCIPLES TO SPREAD IT

cronsberg:

Thats why ISIS will continue to behead you fucker.s till kingdom come. Same way i feel like clubbing every christian i see cuz hitler also burned six million jews exactly like the pics you see. And hitler was a bible wielding church going christian

With all due respect sir. Hitler was never a CHRISTIAN, He was an EX-CATHOLIC. Be sure about your facts before you speak.
P.S: Christians are different from Catholics.

cronsberg:

Finally a sane human being to talk rationally and logically with. The only reason why i wrote what i wrote is that some people are unwilling to understand rational thought, thus why i had to sound irrational too to make sense to them. Ofcourse no normal human will agree with ISIS especially with their barbaric brutality. And frankly i understand the anger christians have towards islam cuz of what is happening all over, but don't be quick to conclude that islam is the culprit. What christians suppose to ask is that are there verses in the quran that actually support these people? If there are verses, then whats the logic behind those verses, whats the proper interpretation of those verses, are there other verses encouraging more forgiveness and peace than war?
ISIS is unwilling to negotiate, take prisoner, or forgive, all they want is death, it doesn't work that way. In proper islam, you do everything to maintain peace, even if war becomes a necessity(which is only in self defense) then strict rules apply, such as only fight those who fight you, women and children can't be harmed, no places of worship should be destroyed(churches, synagogues, mosques e.t.c), even farmland and animals can't be harmed. I won't tell you there is no Jihad in islam, truth is there is. But its more of a defensive war(even the U.N agrees with), and as a last resort an offensive war to liberate oppressed people(which the the whole world did in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, South Africa e.t.c)
So you see the thing is very delicate. Other people have every right to be worried about islam as many terrorists claim islam as their inspiration, but don't allow your emotion cloud your better judgement. Enquire first, make effort to ask, research, educate yourself.

you'v said it al,more like the blind leading the blind they'l both end up in a ditch!!,people are very fast to judge ones character based on religion,tribe,and d likes,a thief is caught and paraded,pple will justify his actions with either his tribe or religion,oh! he's from dis group of pple dey are chronic theives,or he called himself a xtian,muslim yet he stole! They fail to reason logically about the personality of dis individuals,his driving force and personal believes,dey'l rada kip d blame at bay with d fellow they'l total his tribe,religion a total mess! Backden when boko haram began their campaign against mainly xtians up north I was like this group are motivated religiously,later it took a sudden turn they started killing muslims and xtians alike,den I resulted to it being politically initiated but that theory holds no weight either,boko said they are fighting for an islamic state for who?the xtians they term infidels? Or d muslims they label as apostates? It made me reach a conclusion these group of humans have no soul or an entity they stand for in life,their cause is baseless,their fight is meaningless but they just wanna kill and destroy d human race,I wudnt agree with anybody that gives me a reason why pregnant women and children, cudnt be spared by this beasts in human form. but at d end they justify their actions with islamic doctrines.......so bro wen pple go with d popular slogan of islam is a religion of violence,just let it slide cuz everybody reasons differently and av dia individual opinion moreso,we can't all reason logically and map out the real truth in cases like these,peace. .

omonnakoda:
My people who are my people? are you well?

your people now islamabaaaaaaad

cronsberg:

Thats why ISIS will continue to behead you fucker.s till kingdom come. Same way i feel like clubbing every christian i see cuz hitler also burned six million jews exactly like the pics you see. And hitler was a bible wielding church going christian

Did you just say hitler was a church going christian and hope u dont think jews are muslims too?lol. He tried to force his own religion,Nazism into christianity and served like a god.He was anti-semistic and an athiest. Please next time be informed before u post stuff like this. And let it sink in that 80% of world unrest today is caused by islam and its devilish book.

kay1one:


The problem with islam is that it has the tendency to reduce the follower's iq to a point they only spew crap! Mohammed was a terrorist! Obvious fact! Nothing reasonable came from that psycho! Just a hate speech; quran!

Thank you for your love speech. But I'm a proud follower of Mohammed (Peace be on him), as well as billions of other Muslims. That you see nothing positive come out of Islam isn't an issue, it only speaks volumes of who you are and what you choose to see. Enjoy!

ISLAM......THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL WORLDWIDE.

I put all the blame on BUSH none of these wouldnt happen if US dint invade iraq in 2003....but all the same.i think all muslim countries around the world should come together and deal with ISIS instead of pointing fingers...

ClerverIy:


Buhari is a certified terrorist
Apc Is bokoharam

Osibanjo is Buhari's partner, that makes him a terrorist too!
Oritsejafor is the ammunition purchasing officer for BH

CHPR:
Because yorubas are chameleon, they are neither black nor white.

But why ...lol

9jaforlife:


Thank you for your love speech. But I'm a proud follower of Mohammed (Peace be on him), as well as billions of other Muslims. That you see nothing positive come out of Islam isn't an issue, it only speaks volumes of who you are and what you choose to see. Enjoy!

Can u tell me the positives of Islam pls

End times.....

dharyour93:
SAD!!! I pray Boko Haram doesn't grow to this extent.

kobo dem no get, IS dey find war dem go see am soon, pure evil

nzeadachie:
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN PEOPLE KILLING IN THE NAME OF JESUS? stop deciving yourself with that nonsense called religion

You and your photoshopped pictures, very convincing indeed!

When your holier than thou christian countries are hustling for oil in the Middle Eastern Muslim countries, and they provide arms and money to idiots to kill themselves in the hope to ruin those countries and take over their resources in their usual Western style criminal covert operations, they don't remember that they're Muslims. But when these killers graduate to international terrorists then the world suddenly remembers that they're Muslims

Post all your hateful amateur photoshopped pictures on NL and every other forum you know, the only people believing them are bigots like you. The best you can achieve with it is a waste of your own time.

I wonder how dis people dey commit these kind of atrocity in the name of religion. DIs our God too dey merciful.smh

Atigba:

Keep deceiving your self they re the true Muslim

Gbam. I notice when these terrorist groups attack only christians or the church, their muslim brothers dont come out to say they are evil or they are not muslims but, the moment the terrorists kill a muslim, then they come out and say they are not representing Islam.
I have noticed that when they state their reasons why ISIS and Biko haram are not muslims is only because they harm muslims.
You hear them say.... they are not muslims they are killing muslims too. So, the only time muslims will condemn extreem Islamists is when and only when it starts affecting them. If not its ..... Allahu akbah For every slain infidel.

notoriousbabe:
your people now islamabaaaaaaad

Is that really a photo of ya defence??

tonychristopher:


Can u tell me the positives of Islam pls

Me? I know you people too well

If you've spent 20years or so in life and you haven't seen one good thing in Islam, best bet is that a few passages from me will only give you the pleasure of doing more of your favourite hobby: hauling insults at Muslims. Look for another candidate who doesn't know the way bigots think.

Thanks for your invitation

omonnakoda:
I think you need to do a lot more reading and research into the ORIGIN of the BIBLE. The claim that there is a NEW TESTAMENT or an OLD one is superficial and BOGUS. There are 27 books in the bible new testament and some debate about who wrote each one. Leaving that debate to one side we know they were NOT written by one person so the question is this.

WHEN( in what year) did those 27 books get collected into one volume and by

WHOM also

WHO was it that first introduced the term NEW TESTAMENT and

WHEN

There is no internal validity to the concept of NEW TESTAMENT or NEW COVENANT without provoking contradictions

God in the Bible says he does NOT change. Malachi 3.6
Jesus himself said
Matthew5.18 For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.

So this Christian Idea of a new or reformed or Born again God is inconsistent.

The real question I ask most so called Christian is this which none can answer.

Is the so called old Testament old and to be discarded or are its contents a part of Christianity. In the latter case hhow do we know what to use and what not to use or do we go "as the spirit guides".

To answer your question sir. OLD Testament is not to be discarded, But the old and the new is a representation of different times Old signifies the things that happened before Jesus Christ came to die for the Jews and Gentiles. In those times, when u commit an offence, u have to go to the priest for cleansing or if your offence was big enough for death, that would be carried out if you were caught...But NEW signifies when Jesus came and died for our sins so we don't need to be cleansed by any priest anymore through a sacrificial lamb...so Jesus died to give us an ability to face GOD ourselves to beg him for forgiveness using Jesus' death as a point of contact.
So NEW and OLD represents the different ways of approaching the father(God). The old is not really different in style except from that main difference. The old backs up the new. It all comes together to form the Bible. One of the reasons it was important to say Old and New was that there was a period of about 400 Years between End of old testament and beginning of new testament. They were called the DARK AGES... because there was no prophesy and conection with God causing a lot destructions. So the New Testament also represents the New ages.
I really hope I have explained well...if u have any questions please do ask.
P.S. Testament means covenant...So its Old Covenant and the New Covenant(renewing the covenant)between God.