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Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by dreamzy(m): 4:18pm On Feb 04, 2015
PastorKun:


Yes the tithe doctrine was a jewish command strictly for the children of Israel. The command to tithe was never carried over to the new testament church. Like all other old testament laws, it is not binding on christians. Christians are under grace and not law. That aside biblical tithes was not money, it was agric produce. Preaching tithes of money is adding to God's word and it is a sin to add to God's word.
thanks will ask some pastors for clearification
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Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by linohlex: 4:26pm On Feb 04, 2015
Faibuhari:
While GMB collected 1million naira from an elderly woman
abi na the 1m way they give the woman for corner make she come donate.
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by andyanders: 4:28pm On Feb 04, 2015
okpamson15:
This is what we are expecting from these men of God. Thank God for this good gesture may God bless you the more man of God

T.B Joshua A true Prophet of God sent for this generation and his works will always shine and other pastors should learn rather than collecting from the poor elderly ones.I once went to a church whereby the pastor was telling his members to give all what they have in their pockets even if it was their transport money and walk home. Too bad for most of these men.
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by PastorKun(m): 4:34pm On Feb 04, 2015
dreamzy:
thanks will ask some pastors for clearification

Most pastors would not tell you the truth on this matter because they benefit from collecting tithes. However if you really want to know the truth about tithes, read deuteronomy 14:22-29 and ask the pastor why churches don't preach tithes as instructed there. Also read hebrews 7:5-19, here the tithe law was anulled and described as a weak, useless and unprofitable law.
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Faibuhari: 4:35pm On Feb 04, 2015
prudentcy:


He didn't want to but the old woman forced him to.

A girl of 14 years old offered you sex, you didn't want to but she forced you to take it. That's your line of arguement
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Nobody: 4:36pm On Feb 04, 2015
uzo200:


you are a very big fool for saying this...
you can say whatever you like bro., the truth is bitter
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Rennerglo: 4:37pm On Feb 04, 2015
It is not in his place to reject someone's tithe. the Bible commands that we should pay our tithe. He should have given her a gift of 1 million instead of refusing to accept her tithe and adding 500k to it. the tithe is for God and not for SCOAN of the man of God.
Bottom line: You have robbed God
Achutebe:
Just read this inspiring story on TBJ's Facebook Page...

OUR ELDERLY, OUR PRIDE: The Touching Story Of A Widow And Her Tithe...

The case of Mrs. Caroline Orugude deserves a place in the spotlight. On that unforgettable Sunday, which will remain engraved on the hearts of the thousands of people that heard her, she gently made her way to the altar of The SCOAN. Delicately clenching a hand that was just recovering from a recent attack of stroke, the elderly woman had the air of one with important news.

She came with a simple gift and message that would speak volumes to men and women of God the world over. A retired teacher from Bayelsa in Southern Nigeria, this woman still had a thing or two to teach the “young ones”.

When she spoke, it was with carefully chosen words: “What brought me here is the urge to testify of the goodness of God in my life,” she began. Every ear zeroed in, as she narrated how she had retired from her job in June, 2012 and was forced to wait many months for her gratuity that was supposed to have been paid immediately. She said: “There was nothing much we could do except pray because the pension system is unreliable. So, I kept praying for almost two years about this.”

Mrs. Orugude requested prayers from many pastors for breakthrough, promising she would pay her tithe, but the pension remained withheld.

After she was introduced by a family member to Emmanuel TV, her mindset began to change. “I witnessed the goodness of the Lord and how the God of T.B. Joshua helps people to achieve their goals,” said Mrs. Orugude. A month before this landmark testimony, the elderly lady began to change her prayer points, aligning them with what she saw on Emmanuel TV.

When praying, she would place the documents for the gratuity on the screen of Emmanuel TV, thanking God for His mercy. Then the mighty hand of God touched her!

Within two weeks, she received a call from the treasury, asking her to go to the capital city, Abuja. “I said, ‘Wow! Is it for the gratuity?’ They said, ‘Yes’. Brethren, I knelt down. The joy in me that day, I cannot express it. I said, ‘thank You, Lord. I am going to Lagos’. I decided when I got the money, I would come here [to The SCOAN] to appreciate the Lord,” she said.

Then, while everyone including the millions of viewers across the world watched, the frail woman made a statement that stunned all: “I am here with the small sum of 500,000 naira, to give to the man of God and The SCOAN, as my tithe.” Mrs. Orugude’s declaration soon filled the Church-gone-silent with gasps of astonishment.

A mark had been made! At her age, no one would have expected her to part with such a huge amount of money, at a time when she needed it most. The action could not pass unnoticed by the Man of God, T.B. Joshua. His response to the touching gesture was equally surprising.

He said: “Yes, it is written in the Bible that we should pay tithe, but how can we collect tithe from widows and the aged who are supposed to be under our care? Remember, she has stopped working. She needs our care for the rest of her life. These are the women we should be feeding and taking care of. She is our mother; she is my mother too.”

The man of God then announced that instead of receiving Mrs. Orugude’s tithe, he would support her with an additional 500,000 naira, as a gift to take care of her.

Explaining why he took such a unique stance, T.B. Joshua spoke about the marks of a genuine servant of God: “When God calls a man or woman, what they will eat, what they will use and everything they need for their journey will be provided abundantly by God, because God wants honour and respect for His anointed ones,” he said.

“When a minister begins to depend on tithes, you know he is not a minister of God. It is written that offerings and tithes are very important to the house of God, but a minister of God who is called by God Almighty should not depend on offerings and tithes. Tithe is between you and your God.

“This is a message to ministers of God all over the world. When we collect tithes, we should know those whom we collect them from. Don’t force anybody – it is between them and God. Since the Bible says the door of blessings will open, leave them to God. It is not you that opens the door of blessing. If someone is not giving the right tithe, he will not receive anything from God, and if he is doing the right thing, he will receive from God. Let us worship the Giver of money, not money,” the Prophet said.

This example might cause you to smile but it is just part of the move Prophet T.B. Joshua has been making, along with Emmanuel TV Partners, to fulfil the divine obligation, which requires all Christians to help the elderly.

Every Sunday at The SCOAN, the elderly are allocated a section in the church where they enjoy the company and fellowship of their peers during the service. Additionally, free transportation in luxurious buses is provided to and from their homes, courtesy of T.B. Joshua and Emmanuel TV Partners. A welfare programme is also in operation, granting a monthly allowance, supplies and foodstuffs to each of the elderly in the church.

The Bible makes it very clear that it is not a crime to be old; it is the grace of God. Psalm 91:14-16 says: “Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him; I will set him on high, because he has known My name. He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honour him. With long life I will satisfy him, and show him My salvation.”

The elderly nurtured and reared us in love, care and warmth. This is the time to reciprocate their love, care and tenderness, now that they are too old to meet their needs unaided. Any community or nation that neglects their old ones, neglects God because it is the will of God to grow old (Isaiah 46:3-4).

Where are your elderly? Care for them and you shall reach old age.

This story was taken from the first issue of Read Us, the official magazine of The SCOAN


https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=826466930807418&id=103470916440360&set=a.105659106221541.7350.103470916440360


SOURCE: TB Joshua Ministries on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/tbjministries


Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by 9jatatafo(m): 4:38pm On Feb 04, 2015
This is image laundering by TBJ because if truly he wanted to help the old woman genuinely, he would have done it without making it public in the church. The bible admonishes that when the right hand does something good, the left hand shouldn't be aware of it. I call this public stunt. By making it public TBJ has gotten his reward like the Pharisees. Nice move in bad way though.

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Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Nobody: 4:41pm On Feb 04, 2015
28e00db5:
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Don't u fear God?
what is the fear of GOD?
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by crownprince7(m): 4:42pm On Feb 04, 2015
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jpaul5:
These times are really showing us who the real men of God are. While Adeboye, Oyedepo and the likes are being embroiled in political scandals and controversies pertaining to the pursuit of worldly wealth, Prophet T.B. Joshua has distinguished himself as someone who genuinely is not driven by politics or material possessions.
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Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by okpamson15(m): 4:45pm On Feb 04, 2015
andyanders:


T.B Joshua A true Prophet of God sent for this generation and his works will always shine and others pastors should learn rather than collecting from the poor elderly ones.I was went to a church whereby the pastor was telling his members to give all what they have in their pockets even if it was their transport money and walk home. Too bad for most of these men.
i'm telling you. This man really show that he is serving a living God. I'm so much hapy 4 this.
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by dammytosh: 4:48pm On Feb 04, 2015

He said: “Yes, it is written in the Bible that we should pay tithe, but how can we collect tithe from widows and the aged who are supposed to be under our care? Remember, she has stopped working. She needs our care for the rest of her life. These are the women we should be feeding and taking care of. She is our mother; she is my mother too.”

First and foremost the image maker who made the script is very poor and artificial. When did people start announcing what they want to give on TV. And 500,000 tithe will mean the woman has noting less than 5million paid to her recently. grin grin grin

Haba !!

Secondly, I guess Pastor has a bible of his own. Jesus taught the Disciples to give with all their heart using a widow who dropped her mite as an analogy.

Forget about the JET age Pastors. giving to the ministry is important.

Everybody knows what works for us in Nigeria. Sentiments Sentiments and Sentiments.

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Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by kuzee(m): 5:01pm On Feb 04, 2015
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Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by ehis05(m): 5:02pm On Feb 04, 2015
Faibuhari:
While GMB collected 1million naira from an elderly woman


Lwkmd... Na tithe naim d woman give GMB...people were donating 2 help assist in his campaign...an elderly woman brought...he collected..wetin make e do?
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by WINDSOW(m): 5:02pm On Feb 04, 2015
holatin:


really

God teaches the use of a bizarre ritual using cursed
“bitter water” to abort a fetus who was conceived
through infidelity. ( Numbers 5:11-21 )

God orders Moses to kill every Midianite woman
who was no longer a virgin. (many of these women
would obviously have been pregnant) (Numbers
31:15-18 )

God promises to destroy the infants of Samaria and
rip open the stomachs of pregnant women.
The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because
they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by
the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the
ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea
13:16)

God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah to
be ripped open .
At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah,
attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its
vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He
sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant
women. ( 2 Kings 15:16)

God commands the killing of infants and nursing
babies.
Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that
they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man
and woman, infant and nursing child , ox and sheep,
camel and donkey. (1 Samuel 15:3)

God repays your enemies by destroying their
babies.
Happy is he who repays you for what you have done
to us. He who seizes your infants and dashes them
against the rocks. ( Psalms 137:8-9 )

what does dis chapters depicate
I was expecting u to quote from the new testament bt u couldn't find a fault.Christians are Jesus Christ like.We were bought by the precious BLOOD HE shared on the cross of calvary for our sins even the ones mohammed committed,He forgave us all!!! Praise Jesus,Hallelujah!!!
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Nobody: 5:10pm On Feb 04, 2015
Some pastors will collect it and use the widows might as that's day sermon. Everythough tithing as a whole isn't the gospel I give kudos to the moG.
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by mtprofessor5(m): 5:23pm On Feb 04, 2015
holatin:
forget matter bare, he can't give out to poor or masses


Mehn people dey ooo

"He cant"
You be a joker
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by fctboy: 5:29pm On Feb 04, 2015
kenkwodoski:
After collecting billions from the poor by selling anoiting water, oil, stickers, his pictures, etc. for as high as 10,000...This man is a hypocrite..


SMH angry

It is commanded to pay tithe of all our income but no where in the Bible we are commanded to sell anointing oil, holy water, anointed stickers or pictures. TBJ had just turned scripture upside down. May God have mercy on him.
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by chipet67(m): 5:48pm On Feb 04, 2015
PastorKun:
He should have gone a step further and told her that as a christian she is not meant to tithe in the first instance.
talk like there is a brain in your head. Even if he accepted it, is it not for helping the ministry ? What happens with starting the help from the source of the money ? Your kind of people nai dey spoil christainity. Read your bible well please!!!
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by tolexy007(m): 5:49pm On Feb 04, 2015
kenkwodoski:
After collecting billions from the poor by selling anoiting water, oil, stickers, his pictures, etc. for as high as 10,000...This man is a hypocrite..


SMH angry
I pity ur sense
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by chipet67(m): 5:51pm On Feb 04, 2015
kenkwodoski:
After collecting billions from the poor by selling anoiting water, oil, stickers, his pictures, etc. for as high as 10,000...This man is a hypocrite..


SMH angry
your own pastor is a POCRITE
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by holatin(m): 5:53pm On Feb 04, 2015
WINDSOW:
I was expecting u to quote from the new testament bt u couldn't find a fault.Christians are Jesus Christ like.We were bought by the precious BLOOD HE shared on the cross of calvary for our sins even the ones mohammed committed,He forgave us all!!! Praise Jesus,Hallelujah!!!
hmmm smile
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by holyokoto(m): 6:20pm On Feb 04, 2015
Nice when TB Joshua
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Nobody: 6:40pm On Feb 04, 2015
chipet67:
your own pastor is a POCRITE
abi? Well, na only GOD knows
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Nobody: 6:41pm On Feb 04, 2015
tolexy007:

I pity ur sense
the truth is always bitter, why?
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Nobody: 6:42pm On Feb 04, 2015
fctboy:


It is commanded to pay tithe of all our income but no where in the Bible we are commanded to sell anointing oil, holy water, anointed stickers or pictures. TBJ had just turned scripture upside down. May God have mercy on him.
that man is using his church for business
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by andyanders: 6:43pm On Feb 04, 2015
9jatatafo:
This is image laundering by TBJ because if truly he wanted to help the old woman genuinely, he would have done it without making it public in the church. The bible admonishes that when the right hand does something good, the left hand shouldn't be aware of it. I call this public stunt. By making it public TBJ has gotten his reward like the Pharisees. Nice move in bad way though.

Well, if your word here is to condemn Prophet T.B. Joshua by saying it was a "Public Stunt " as you said, then you should have condemned Jesus when he went and raised Lazarus who was dead from the grave.Also you should have condemned Jesus too when he called his disciples to bring water of which he turned it into wine.You equally should have condemned Jesus for asking his disciples to bring the little fish they had of which he prayed and asked them to now share to those who were hungry.He should have done those things is private.

The woman came in public to give the money and he returned it to her and added another 500k for her to give and now used the opportunity to teach other men of God not to collect tithe from those widows whom we are supposed to look after and you are here condemning his works.

If he had collected the money from same woman, people like you also would have come out to condemn him by calling him names that he has stolen from a widow and old folks.

Note that there is nothing on this earth that people cannot condemn you but when you know who sent you, you do not listen to people like you hence the man of God do not respond to critics like you.
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Nobody: 7:42pm On Feb 04, 2015
DONT BE FOOLED
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by Deepfreezer(m): 9:45pm On Feb 04, 2015
Daddy TBJ I miss you,
Re: TB Joshua Returns N500,000 Tithe To Elderly Woman by fromnigeria(m): 9:49pm On Feb 04, 2015
he is the only pastor that can do this in Nigeria.

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