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Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 12:44pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
adanny01: I hope you know that stolen is the past perfect tense of steal. Graft, fraud are all what? Stealing aka corruption. 2 Likes |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by adanny01(m): 12:48pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
egbesegbe: They committed fraud on you. Not corruption nor stealing. That scenario is called FRAUD! You need to drop sentiment and use the correct grammar. Am sure you did Lexis and structure in WAEC. That part of English language relates to these kind of terms. 1 Like |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by filiks(m): 12:55pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
xpac01: Sounds sensible? With what he just said? |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by egbesegbe: 12:55pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
adanny01: Fraud is perpetuated by a corrupt individual. A corrupt mind yields to pressure of committing fraud, thievery and manipulation. Apparently, those guys from the scenario are corrupt. 3 Likes |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by Johnsinia(m): 12:58pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
SEYIKP:Oga abi na madam, pls, I am curious to learn, define corruption in a simple layman language without coping from the dictionary. |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:04pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
adanny01: Corruption is dishonest actions that destroys people's trust in the person or group http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/corruption My question to you. Is stealing of public money by a corrupt official not a dishonest action that destroys the people's trust? Note Virtual currency is treated as property by the American IRS. If you have money in your PayPal account, it is treated as property. 2 Likes |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by Nobody: 1:05pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
This is why not everyone plays chess, many are incapable of logical thinking but some here are just being plain obtuse. |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 1:07pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
adanny01:Defining corruption with one word is fraudulent or dishonest. If the scenario is fraud, it is corrupt. 3 Likes |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by Nobody: 1:15pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
thegoodjoehunt3: OMG! thegoodjoe why are you still arguing with this adanny guy can't you see he already has his head far too deep in his rectum to understand you? 2 Likes |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by adanny01(m): 1:18pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
thegoodjoehunt3: Considering that fraud and corruption are synonymous, you can use corruption to describe the scenario and wont be totally wrong. However, the precise term as per grammar and law, its called fraud. |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by hollagokay(m): 1:22pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
kodded:let Buhari execute the plan first now. meanwhile, may God plan your life and all your affairs the way Jonathan planned this country. oya say amen |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by egbesegbe: 1:24pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
adanny01: If you commit fraud either in public or private domain, you are corrupt. So following prof's definition, he is wrong. It is not only people in power that you can address their acts as corrupt. Private firms participants can be addressed as corrupt if they commit fraud, thievery or manipulation |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by hollagokay(m): 1:29pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
Janetozi:Seeing your signature i never expected such words of cursing from you... besides u r also thin like Buhari does it suggests u have internal sickness too? just asking ni oo |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by adanny01(m): 1:45pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
thegoodjoehunt3: Stealing and corruption may have a common synonym but may not be synonyms themselves. The terms money and currency are not synonymous and cannot be used interchangeably. Currency cannot even be a property in the first place. Who's property is the Nigerian Naira or the American Dollar? I am not an economist but in my knowledge, virtual money and virtual currency are one and the same thing. A search on Google gave me a Wikipedia definition of virtual currency as digital money. This brings us back to the same thing , Money. In this case digital money may have a value different from that of liquid money and may not be used to settle liabilities. So technical by my understanding of that economics, digital money or virtual currency as you may call it can be said to be a property. In summary, virtual currency is a property and therfore not money. Hope you got my point. |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by adanny01(m): 1:54pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
egbesegbe: Thats why fraud and corruption are synonymous while both are not synonymous with stealing. I also initially thought the way you were thinking until i checked the definition of corruption in the dictionary myself. Check the definition yourself and save yourself from GEJ. If Prof's definition is wrong, Google is wrong because he got his definition exactly from Google without changing a word. This is where you, GEJ and others shoot yourselves on the foot. |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by adanny01(m): 1:56pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
egbesegbe: I agree because oxford dictionary has 9 other definitions of corruption as regards difference context. A mind can be corrupt in that context. A computer system can be corrupt in that context and so on and so forth. In the government context, stealing and corruption are quite different. 1 Like |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by egbesegbe: 2:05pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
adanny01:I now see how the prof will rule a country of over 160 millions through goggle. I am not a partisan politician, but I strongly believe more in practical things than theoretical phenomenon. If a whole prof is consulting Google to tweet, I doubt his capabilities of handling practical issues in Nigeria. We Nigerians should cultivate the habit of critical analysis than following Google like zombie because it was originated from the whites. What gives you that assurance that the person that describes corruption there know it all? If a professor in Nigeria cannot discern a wrong definition from the net and comes out publicly to criticise a simple logic, then we have a great problem in our educational sector. 1 Like |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by brixton: 2:09pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
dguyindcorner: I still remember that episode vividly, you should try to look for the transcript before making uninformed remarks online. |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by maestroferddi: 2:13pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
chysam: I don't waste my time bandying words with minors/teenagers. Now pass and keep moving... 1 Like |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 2:35pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
adanny01:If someone steals your virtual/digital money, he has stolen your property. If someone comes to your house and takes money you left in the drawer without legal right or permission, he has stolen. Cut the long story short. Stealing is a corrupt act, no matter the form whether graft or fraud. The officials are corrupt. GEJ is wrong when he said stealing is not corruption. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 2:37pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
egbesegbe:The Prof. Is an intelligent man. He does not need Google to make a point. He used it because it is an easier source for the masses and it is readily available. You should advice GEJ to start using google so that he would stop flopping on live TV. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by adanny01(m): 2:45pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
egbesegbe: Kai kai kai! This is the lowest of the low comment about this matter. Can you hear yourself. If GEJ had consulted google, it would not have done him that damage that he is trying tooth and nail to defend. You should be ashamed that you criticize someone who rightly referred to the right source but you go ahead to question the credibility of google just to discredit him. The definition by google is wrong? Are you high? You entertain this thought just because you want to defend GEJ by all means. Am amazed. Where did we get English from? 1 Like |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by Chiaka(f): 2:49pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
xpac01: Sure he is Tinunbus puppet, just like he tried to cow Tunde Bakare in 2011 http://nigeriana.org/blog/118219.html http://nigeriana.org/blog/95069.html |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by Chiaka(f): 2:51pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
Adminisher: What about Buhari; * I have never seen any school built in his name. * I have never seen any borehole constructed by him. * There is no record of any scholarship awarded by him or for him nor through him. * I have never seen him use his popularity to canvass for any charitable work nor any humanitarian effort, not even at the height of the polio scourge where other purposeful and prominent leaders lead the campaign for immunization. * No single text book has been donated to any school either by him, for him or through him. * Asides from doing nothing, he has not improved himself since his exit from office. * No book written, no memoirs, no lectures, nothing. * The only thing of note he can point to are his numerous interviews on the BBC Hausa station. * He never champion for a university in his state nor has he ever been involved in any kind of programme to better the lives of the Almajiris in Daura. * His entire existence has not lead to any meaningful development in Daura, yet they say he can change Nigeria. Doesn't charity begin at home again? * No wonder he was referred to as being ''perpetually unelectable''. * He is not a patron to any organization, group or association. * No professional body in Nigeria has ever invited him for their lecture, convention or gala night. * The only time any known form, body or human assemblage ever chose him to do anything for them was when the Boko Haram terrorist sect nominated him as their spoke person in the proposed talks with the Fed. Govt. He recently joined twitter because of elections. At 72 what does he have to offer? I need change we all need change but Gen Buhari isn't the answer! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by adanny01(m): 2:54pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
thegoodjoehunt3: There is nothing wrong with what you have said. However, stealing is a corrupt act but the context in which the corrupt is mention refers to the state of the stealers mind. Like i said before corruption has 9 other context. |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by codedguy1(m): 2:59pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
Corruption can be something that has gone off the the right way of doing things. That means corruption is a broader description of an anomaly. Cheating, stealing, bribery and even waywardness can be described as being corrupt. The president was only trying to let us understand that the way we pronounce corruption belittles the attribute of crime to the individual without specifying exactly what the person did. The confusion in Nigeria is that once you say someone is corrupt 90% of the time it means stealing, so the president is simply saying let's call it exactly what it is stealing. If I say you have a corrupt mind, does that mean you have stolen something even if you used sexual inuendos to describe something that had no connection with sex. But if I say you are a thief, it is very explicit and everyone would understand you have taken something that does not belong to you without the owner/s permission. 1 Like |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 3:07pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
codedguy1:GEJ said Stealing is not corruption. He did not give a platform. No matter how we twist it, the truth is that stealing is corrupt and officials who steal/embezzle government funds are corrupt. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 3:14pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
Calculia:That's Oxford dictionary definition of the word. The prof is right. Maybe you should check that up |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by codedguy1(m): 3:15pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
thegoodjoehunt3: You already have a closed mind regardless of any explanation. Did u watch the chat yesterday, the guy just explained that he quoted the former icj and that the man is still alive but all you have heard is that GEJ said stealing is not corruption. I guess, "GEJ said stealing is not corruption" is your story and you are sticking to it! Goodluck! |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 3:17pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
codedguy1:If he likes, he can quote Obama. It can not change the truth. Stealing is a corrupt act. Anyone embezzling government fund is corrupt. |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by egbesegbe: 3:25pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
adanny01:I am not defending anybody my dear. So, are you saying everything you get from Google is absolutely right? My dear, are you serious with what you are saying. For the fact he got one out of over 20 definitions of corruption from the net to put up a criticism that is not logical to GEJ's explanation is very unprofessional as a prof. I am even disappointed with the way you put up your argument. 1 Like |
Re: Prof. Osinbajo Blast Jonathan After Presidential Media Chat by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 3:26pm On Feb 12, 2015 |
codedguy1:I don't get your drift. I feel embarrassed each time someone says my country is corrupt. But u guys feel the word is a beautiful one sort of a compliment. Please stealing is corruption. The president goofed by saying the contrary. You said there are other things that are corrupt practices. That's right. Stealing is one of them and to say stealing is not corruption makes no sense to me 1 Like |
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