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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by greaterlove(m): 10:59pm On Feb 13, 2015
kennydee05:
Their is no major construction of rail line done by GEJ. What he did were rehabilitation of the rail line and their is no way that will cost much compare to those that are doing the major construction like the one being Fashola is doing.
GEJ only did some weldering of the tail line.
Don't get it twisted bro
The op used the abuja- kaduna rail, was that rehabilitated?
We must really give kudos to the goodluck administration, he has done what no other head of state has done, the change APC are clamouring for is the return to the old ways of corruption and mismanagement.

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by GoldCircle: 10:59pm On Feb 13, 2015
Pls stop displaying your ignorance. If you don't know? Pls ask questions. There are no silly questions. Just silly people asking questions.
http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/abuja-kaduna-rail-line/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/abuja-kaduna-rail-line-delivered-dec-fg/
kennydee05:
Their is no major construction of rail line done by GEJ. What he did were rehabilitation of the rail line and their is no way that will cost much compare to those that are doing the major construction like the one being Fashola is doing.
GEJ only did some weldering of the tail line.
Don't get it twisted bro

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by aresa: 10:59pm On Feb 13, 2015



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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Sunky200: 11:00pm On Feb 13, 2015
I am enjoying all. the constructive criticism buttress with facts on this. subject so far except for few senseless sentimental inputs

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by agabaI23(m): 11:00pm On Feb 13, 2015
Senjuchiha:
We Need more Cluelessness
*He is Clueless yet his Government was the first in the
World to conquer the dreaded Ebola Virus.
* He is Clueless yet under his leadership,Nigeria has
become the 3rd fastest growing economy in the world.
*He is Clueless yet his Minister for Agriculture has been
begged to come show the world how he eliminated
corruption and transformed the Agriculture sector.
*He is Clueless yet his Petroleum minister was elected to be
the First female President of OPEC.
*He is Clueless yet under his leadership,the Nigerian
Economy is Number one in Africa.
*He is Clueless yet he was able to Privatize the Power
sector which none could do before him.
* He is Clueless yet he has built more roads than any other
government before him.
*He is Clueless yet for the first time in our history,we now
have over 10 Automobile manufacturers in Nigeria.
*He is Clueless yet he's built over 12 tertiary institutions
within 4 years.
If all these were achieved by a clueless man,we need the
Cluelessness to continue till 2019.
Yesssoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by darksuit(m): 11:00pm On Feb 13, 2015
stigman:


Fish, APC and kworruption be like rice and stew, for 12years plus now they are still constructing lekki - Epe road, inside this 12years the are still within Ajah and u are shouting change like person wey conductor never give change

where change dy fr wetn i post?
u too dy pugnacious
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Immune1(m): 11:01pm On Feb 13, 2015
kennydee05:
Their is no major construction of rail line done by GEJ. What he did were rehabilitation of the rail line and their is no way that will cost much compare to those that are doing the major construction like the one being Fashola is doing.
GEJ only did some weldering of the tail line.
Don't get it twisted bro

Seems misleading people is your day job abi?The Kaduna-Abuja rail line is a new standard guage rail line which is wider and more modern than the narrow guage lines.Even if he just rehabilitated the Old narrow guage isnt that something he should be given credit for

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Realdeals(m): 11:01pm On Feb 13, 2015
I hope you know its the same contractor CCECC thats is handling both the abuja and lagos rail line.

The scope of work which LASG have expended 160 billion naira on is not for the railway alone, the whole project is being handle by two contractor CCECC for the rail and Julius Berger for the road, beside a lot of building gave way to accommodate the ten lane road and the rail track and the rail track is a double standard gauge track.
The abuja rail track might cost less because they do not have to pay compensation to anybody and their is a long stretch of the track which is single standard gauge.
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by thev0ice1: 11:04pm On Feb 13, 2015
agabaI23:
It is not elevated, at least not this part. Have you considered that some bridges will be built for the Kaduna-Abuja rail too?

Do you have the details of the the whole project? Is the Kaduna-Abuja rail crossing rivers too?

A post up there affirmed the lagos project will pass over the lagoon so until you factor all those constraints in plus e.g settlement of citizens who'll lose properties to the rail right of way, you will be incapable of being very objective in these comparisons.
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by GoldCircle: 11:05pm On Feb 13, 2015
Immune1:


Seems misleading people is your day job abi?The Kaduna-Abuja rail line is a new standard guage rail line which is wider and more modern than the narrow guage lines.Even if he just rehabilitated the Old narrow guage isnt that something he should be given credit for
help me tell am. http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/abuja-kaduna-rail-line/
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by samuelrodger9: 11:06pm On Feb 13, 2015
Truth be told, APC leaders are the most corrupt people in Nigeria. It's no news that Amaechis is the most corrupt governor. Fashola has succeeded in pulling Lagos back to the stone age by not improving on infra structural devpt. Vote PDP, vote jonathan for a real and transparent leader.

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by EKPETI(m): 11:07pm On Feb 13, 2015
jaybee3:

I've never criticised for the fun of it bro.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

We also have an ongoing crossrail project in the uk (118km costing about 16 billion pounds).
You can't just compare cost per kilometre since the factors considered when costing aren't the same. You should know this bro

How much is uk's budget where they will be spending a whooping 16 Billion pounds onm crossrail project.. Na lie.....

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by okhiai1(m): 11:07pm On Feb 13, 2015
ABUJA TO KADUNA WHERE FRESHLY CONSTRUCTED BY MY OGA GEJ AND IT COSTED LESS AND DID NOT TAKE TIME TO BE COMPLETED

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by aresa: 11:11pm On Feb 13, 2015
@ OP, the projects you listed are all different from standard railway to light rail, metro rail and mono rail in different environment and different cost of labor and material.

Eko Rail has tons overhead bridges, metro stations, metro rail bridge over the Lagoon to marina, IPPs to power the whole system and so on

Fingers are not equal so quit peddling ignorant tales.... Grow up and stop thinking like a 2 year old...

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by legendsilver(m): 11:12pm On Feb 13, 2015
lorddannie:
The hypocrisy of APC goons stinks to high heavens.

No one should ever take them serious!

only a brainwashed clueless gullible Nigerians will take PDP serious. The only political party that lacks issue base campaign, because its obvious it wouldn't sell their candidate well, so they went on character assassination campaign.

Its obvious what the outcome has become and how scared they are even now that the elections has been postponed.



#March4buhari 28
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Curlieweed: 11:12pm On Feb 13, 2015
anonimi:


Chai, APCheat supporters don suffer die, really shocked
State of the art ko, state of the science ni grin



Bros, thanks. The corruption in Apeeshit is mind boggling and to think that this clown Fashole was accusing the FG of not helping him.

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by yazz09(m): 11:15pm On Feb 13, 2015
APC stupid sets of old fools thinking they are wise, with the most senseless sets of followers thinking they will gain one favor or the other once they (APC thieves) enter office.

Something as clear as crystal water, you can't see. You are still running una mouth, anyway I no blame una nah fowl (chicken) brain una get.

I weep for all of una cry cry cry cry cry cry

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Nobody: 11:15pm On Feb 13, 2015
Hah
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by agabaI23(m): 11:16pm On Feb 13, 2015
thev0ice1:


Do you have the details of the the whole project? Is the Kaduna-Abuja rail crossing rivers too?

A post up there affirmed the lagos project will pass over the lagoon so until you factor all those constraints in plus e.g settlement of citizens who'll lose properties to the rail right of way, you will be incapable of being very objective in these comparisons.



And you think the same consideration is not applicable to Kaduna-Abuja rail?
And again, even if you are considering the lagoon portion, they are yet to get to the lagoon crossing and the cost is already 150B, how much will it be when it gets to the lagoon?

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by 30pence: 11:16pm On Feb 13, 2015
jaybee3:

I've never criticised for the fun of it bro.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

We also have an ongoing crossrail project in the uk (118km costing about 16 billion pounds).
You can't just compare cost per kilometre since the factors considered when costing aren't the same. You should know this bro

u already making excuses for APC.
How many excuses did u make for Gej.
As U judge, so shall u be judged.

Laughing in swahili...

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Nobody: 11:16pm On Feb 13, 2015
Apc goons are always sentimental

GEJ till 2019

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by pharoahs(m): 11:18pm On Feb 13, 2015
jaybee3:

I've never criticised for the fun of it bro.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

We also have an ongoing crossrail project in the uk (118km costing about 16 billion pounds).
You can't just compare cost per kilometre since the factors considered when costing aren't the same. You should know this bro

now we are looking to be analytical abi? When people where making baseless insinuations about GEJ nobody asked for facts and figures o.

Ok....lets wait and see

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by maestroferddi: 11:19pm On Feb 13, 2015
barcanista:
Do you know that the Amaechi and Fashola light rail are at an elevated altitude therefore propped by pillars which will undoubtedly increase it's cost?
Have you considered other logistics?

compensation? Shipping of materials? lands? etal?

How can you calculate based on KM only? Not saying that the project wasn't over-bloated though
Oga you can do better than trying to justify/rationalise blatant/flagrant corruption/graft.

We know the technical considerations of erecting the afrorementioned structures so don't attempt hoodwinking folks...

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by xhamel89: 11:19pm On Feb 13, 2015
jaybee3:

I've never criticised for the fun of it bro.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

We also have an ongoing crossrail project in the uk (118km costing about 16 billion pounds).
You can't just compare cost per kilometre since the factors considered when costing aren't the same. You should know this bro

Then whoever does his own project cheaper actually situated the project intelligently therefore those that does their expensively might have situated either as a result of being clueless or to hide their corruption.
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Bayswater: 11:19pm On Feb 13, 2015
Matthewbriggs:


Jaybee here you are rushing to make excuses for clear case of corruption and gross mis-management of funds.



and most importantly, stealing!
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Nobody: 11:20pm On Feb 13, 2015
maestroferddi:
Oga you can do better than trying to justify/rationalise blatant/flagrant corruption/graft.

We know the technical considerations of erecting the afrorementioned structures so don't attempt hoodwinking folks...
I am not holding brief for anybody
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by ncoolsome(m): 11:22pm On Feb 13, 2015
viccipedia:
LOL guy u b olodo oo, simple question, who are the thieves? See as you dey blow grammar.. undecided

I reside in Lagos,festac to be precise so can authoritatively tell you that of Lagos..houses are being destroyed on both sides From orile to badagry to build a ten lane and not just the light rail...so y d camparism?
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Nobody: 11:24pm On Feb 13, 2015
jaybee3:

I've never criticised for the fun of it bro.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

We also have an ongoing crossrail project in the uk (118km costing about 16 billion pounds).
You can't just compare cost per kilometre since the factors considered when costing aren't the same. You should know this bro
Leave the OP to his self deception. I had expected him to consider other factors in his myopic writeup
Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by chronique(m): 11:24pm On Feb 13, 2015
Did you read what you typed at all? Incase you don't know what a 4km journey is,let me explain it to you. From Allen junction to oshopey plaza,is 2km. Multiply that distance by 2 and you'd get 4km. Imagine a rail project for that distance,costing 150bn naira. A journey that won't cost you more than 50 naira in Lagos that is expensive. Of what economic sense is that? Isn't that just pure broad day light robbery?
barcanista:
Do you know that the Amaechi and Fashola light rail are at an elevated altitude therefore propped by pillars which will undoubtedly increase it's cost?
Have you considered other logistics?

compensation? Shipping of materials? lands? etal?

How can you calculate based on KM only? Not saying that the project wasn't over-bloated though

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by 30pence: 11:25pm On Feb 13, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
Can APC Explain This...

Below is Addis Ababa light rail commissioned recently. It covers 46 Km and cost $475 Million (N 71.2 Billion) .
>> http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/urban/single-view/view/addis-ababa-light-rail-test-running-begins.html

(Goodluck Jonathan) Abuja-Kaduna standard guage rail project to commence operation in March 2015 covers 187.5km . It cost (N 80 Billion).
>>http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/abuja-kaduna-rail-line-delivered-dec-fg/

(Ameachi of APC) Port Harcourt Mono Rail date of completion unknown, covers 4Km and has gulped (N 150 Billion).
>> http://businessdayonline.com/2013/05/rivers-n150bn-monorail-project-to-be-completed-2015/

(Fashola of Lagos) Lagos Light Rail date of completion unknown, covers 57Km and has consumed (N 160 billion Billion)
>> http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/lagos-how-we-spent-n160bn-world-bank-loan-on-light-rail-project/188736/

Who are the thieves? Who are the looters? Who are we suppose to sweep out of office?

where d'you think APC got all their campaign money from? Tax payers money of course.

The payback on them will be very grievous hence, their desperation to win by all means.

Willy willy politics.
Smh

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Bayswater: 11:25pm On Feb 13, 2015
OREMUSSANCTUS:
Datz how dhe spend public funds, construct less dan 10km and dey paint it wif street lite using generator. D same amt jona is using to build trains and constructs road of over 200km. Ore road and ibadan-lagos road are evidence, obj was dere buh didn't do anytin. And yet, deh will condemn jona. Wetin tinubu do for lagos for 8 years, bring out facts and figures, capital projects and before ya answer dat go check d meaning of capita developmental project in ya business dictionary before ya vomit nonsense.

I will keep saying it, if these APC demons ever manage to do one hundredth of what GEJ has done, they will scream and shout hallelujah about it for 10years.

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Re: Why Are APC Railway Projects So Expensive? by Nobody: 11:27pm On Feb 13, 2015
chronique:
Did you read what you typed at all? Incase you don't know what a 4km journey is,let me explain it to you. From Allen junction to oshopey plaza,is 2km. Multiply that distance by 2 and you'd get 4km. Imagine a rail project for that distance,costing 150bn naira. A journey that won't cost you more than 50 naira in Lagos that is expensive. Of what economic sense is that? Isn't that just pure broad day light robbery?
I never held brief for anybody

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