thev0ice1:


http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/abuja-kaduna-rail-line/

Nigeria's Standard Gauge Railway Modernisation Projects

The railway modernisation initiative in Nigeria aims at replacing the existing narrow gauge system with the wider standard gauge system, while allowing high-speed train operations on the railway network.

The $8.3bn contract for the Lagos-Kano standard gauge modernisation project awarded to CCECC in 2006 marked the beginning of the initiative.

The project, however, couldn't be implemented due to funding problems. It was later re-scoped into different stand-alone segments and the existing 1,124km narrow gauge Lagos-Kano line was rehabilitated.

Abuja-Kaduna is the first segment to be implemented as part of Lagos-Kano standard gauge project.

My friend, it's not new. They are modernizing and expanding. The land Abuja occupies today didn't drop from the sky yesterday. The rail tracks had already passed through the jungle where abuja is located today. It's those same rail lines that are being modernized. Granted they'll change a lot of things, but it'll be DECEITFUL to claim it is a NEW project




See the lagos pix, It's an entirely new project

How can you you say it is not new when the old narrow gauge has passed away. The fact that you have to remove the narrow guage is extra expenditure. It is new jare!!!

agabaI23:
Why go to a private company when the government can give me...
Chai, there is God ooo

GEJ for Visible change

Don't worry, you and i will force them to domesticate it after handing over on may 29th

agabaI23:
How can you you say it is not new when the old narrow gauge has passed away. The fact that you have to remove the narrow guage is extra expenditure. It is new jare!!!

Yes old things are passed away....all things are become new. Like born again, like GEJ railway

thev0ice1:


Don't worry, you and i will force them to domesticate it after handing over on may 29th

No need, Jimi will do that. PDP believes in transparency.

agabaI23:
No need, Jimi will do that. PDP believes in transparency.

yes o...The T.A Orji and GEJ types

thev0ice1:




so when Yar'adua terminated OBJ contracts (we don't know if railway was part), did he ask them to uproot all the work they'd already done too?

Nothing was done. I used to have the article on this but I can't trace.

agabaI23:
Nothing was done. I used to have the article on this but I can't trace.

ok

Kenai:
Picture of Amaechi as he commissions the ultra-modern white elephant.



APC is working.
Change is coming.

this elephant wey come die for here now...If train com dey come nko?

babamadiba:
leave Mumu. At least those once worked. The Pdp governor in my state constructed only 2 round abouts and little road maintenance that ain't gonna last 6 months

kai!!! Ur state don suffer..

SirShymexx:
Missy89,

Can you see ya yahoozee naij folks...the scam artists. That shiit is innate

I saw the thread and decided to check the background story, and do a quick research on the Ethiopian one (I got love to Ethiopia, man). Only to discover the fraud. Apparently, the rail was already there...and all they needed to do is track laying for standard modern gauge line. And these folks built that with billions. Then you've got Port Harcourt with 4km monorail gulping over 100 billion - ditto Lagos.

These folks are rogues!

Don't blame the politicians. You will be surprised to see the level of approval they get from their supporters even those who are not benefiting from the loot at all.

Matthewbriggs:


I never said that you criticize for the fun of it bro.

I am simply stating that one common trait shared by most APC supporters is hypocrisy . They crucify GEJ for the same offences their masters commit with impunity.

Leme ask you a simple questions if the tables were turned would you start ... speaking all this turenchi you are spewing about Cost per kilometer etc.

Is it not those same "old, end-of-life", abandoned locomotives" that were re-painted by GEJ?

Maybe he should tell us why Nigeria should launch a NEW TRAIN that takes 33-Hours to travel from Lagos to Kano, a distance of just 1,200Km?

Praising mediocrity is the bane of saTANOIDS joor.

Lastpage!

Missy89:


Don't blame the politicians. You will be surprised to see the level of approval they get from their supporters even those who are not benefiting from the loot at all.

Lol. I hear that.

From the outside looking in, you can't help but get mad at the arrogance and how brazen the elites are in enriching themselves, at the expensive of the poor folks...who look half-dead. That's the humanity in you, and being averse to seeing disadvantaged folks being cheated out of their just due.

However, once you analyse the stupidity of these sycophantic pseuds...you'll understand why those folks don't care. And can you really blame them since life is about the survival of the fittest, and maximising every opportunity? - classic capitalism.

Then, when you realise that poorest don't have access to the internet; their voices can't be heard; most of them don't understand what's going on; and they want the best out of life but just don't have what it takes to demand it. Humanity will kick in again.

The funniest thing is that: it's not like these folks are indoctrinated with anything, like other countries where everything is controlled. These folks are just used to poverty, underdevelopment, mediocrity, and lacking the best in life - and it's more or less a norm now. Hence they'd rather play the deceitful tripe, to maintain loyalty to what they aren't benefiting zilch from, rather than ask questions and demand their just due.

I'm out, man.

Because they are new and mordern.

lorddannie:
The hypocrisy of APC goons stinks to high heavens.

No one should ever take them serious!

all politicians and their supporters are hypocrites, even u sef, 4rm ur comment it is un-disguisingly clear that u are an implicit hypocrite
#teamnovoting
#electionnotwar

Senjuchiha:
We Need more Cluelessness
*He is Clueless yet his Government was the first in the
World to conquer the dreaded Ebola Virus.
* He is Clueless yet under his leadership,Nigeria has
become the 3rd fastest growing economy in the world.
*He is Clueless yet his Minister for Agriculture has been
begged to come show the world how he eliminated
corruption and transformed the Agriculture sector.
*He is Clueless yet his Petroleum minister was elected to be
the First female President of OPEC.
*He is Clueless yet under his leadership,the Nigerian
Economy is Number one in Africa.
*He is Clueless yet he was able to Privatize the Power
sector which none could do before him.
* He is Clueless yet he has built more roads than any other
government before him.
*He is Clueless yet for the first time in our history,we now
have over 10 Automobile manufacturers in Nigeria.
*He is Clueless yet he's built over 12 tertiary institutions
within 4 years.
If all these were achieved by a clueless man,we need the
Cluelessness to continue till 2019.

Well, I don't expect more from u!
1. Ebola was defeated by 2APC Governors: Fashola and Amaechi! It took the state government to fight it ruthlessly
2. Fastest growing economy and Dollar is over N210 equivalence.
3. Over hyped Agric sector: have u ever seen made in nigeria rice? Have u tasted it! If the success is so obvious like u clueless re shouting why are we still d second largest importers of rice! Besides: what farm produce have we exported. Besides wc country is calling ur minister of agriculture ooo?
4. Ode... D one dat can't account for NNPC subsidy! Wait, what abt Kerosine subsidy! Ha PMS nko ooo.. Now dat the price is below 50naira... Dat means dey re not subsidizing again... U see... One woman n drunkard da chop ur future and u da support am
5. Do u mean PHCN: oga no be Goodluck oooo... Besides power hasn't improved! We still da import GEN.
6. Pls, I stay in the SW and SS... Pls can u mention a road in ds region that has been commissioned?
7. Lol... Have u been to any of those institutions? Its more or less like 'EKO BOYS HIGH SCH'.

Face reality guy... You principal remains cluessless and drunken

The rails may be of different technology,using different types of rolling stock/carriage and passing through varying terrain and different right of way,different LOS (Level of Service), cost of compensation, built by different pedigree of contractors and so on and so on and so on. Hence, the huge variance in estimated contract sum. But what do I know. I'm just an ordinary civil engineer.

@ Matthewbriggs played a fast one on all of you. He compared the costs of STANDARD GAUGE rail from Abuja -Kaduna and LIGHT RAIL in APC controlled states that are INTRA CITY.
The proper thing to do would have been to compare the costs of LIGHT RAIL PROJECTS in Lagos, Port Harcourt and Abuja . The Abuja Light Rail costs FAR exceed the amount for the the other two. For instance, the Lot1B of the Abuja Light Rail ,covering a distance of 31 kms will cost the federal government $750 million.

kolonigga:


APC wants state-of-art trains not old school locomotive ones like GEJ bought

state of the art ke? the trains fashola is going to use in lagos are old toronto subway trains

chamboy:
Goodluck Azikwe Ebele Jonathan laclks Leadership

Lacks leadership, yet he is leading
U ar spent!!! Finished!!

Senjuchiha:
We Need more Cluelessness
*He is Clueless yet his Government was the first in the
World to conquer the dreaded Ebola Virus.
* He is Clueless yet under his leadership,Nigeria has
become the 3rd fastest growing economy in the world.
*He is Clueless yet his Minister for Agriculture has been
begged to come show the world how he eliminated
corruption and transformed the Agriculture sector.
*He is Clueless yet his Petroleum minister was elected to be
the First female President of OPEC.
*He is Clueless yet under his leadership,the Nigerian
Economy is Number one in Africa.
*He is Clueless yet he was able to Privatize the Power
sector which none could do before him.
* He is Clueless yet he has built more roads than any other
government before him.
*He is Clueless yet for the first time in our history,we now
have over 10 Automobile manufacturers in Nigeria.
*He is Clueless yet he's built over 12 tertiary institutions
within 4 years.
If all these were achieved by a clueless man,we need the
Cluelessness to continue till 2019.

Bros if all these na cluelessness then #iRepCluelessness
All these APC guys wey dey enter #100 bus with #1000, #500 & #200 after conductor warn una say e no get change
if the guy no gree give you change abeg no come Nairaland dey disturb us with change change o

jaybee3:
Value of land and/or real estate to be compensated exactly the same?

If it was to b GEJ wuld u av xplaind d way u jus did? Keep deceivin urselves. At d end u guys will regret ur actions

SirShymexx:
The OP is a classic example of a deceitful illiterate sycophantic pseud. Rather than pose an honest question about why all the rail projects in Nigeria are over-inflated - and call out everyone for corruption. He decided to use a deceitful premise to chastise the others, all in trying to sound vacuously "intelligent". Thus looking like a m0ron in the process.

I just checked the background of the Abuja-Kaduna rail project - and it's basically a modernisation of existing rail, by replacing the gauge system.

Reference:

The railway modernisation initiative in Nigeria aims at replacing the existing narrow gauge system with the wider standard gauge system, while allowing high-speed train operations on the railway network.

The $8.3bn contract for the Lagos-Kano standard gauge modernisation project awarded to CCECC in 2006 marked the beginning of the initiative.
http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/abuja-kaduna-rail-line/


So, the question is: why should the mere replacement of gauge system be that expensive? At least, both Lagos and Rivers are building new rail tracks in cosmopolitan cities, where loads of compensations would have to be paid - with very difficult logistics. Compared to something that's already there, in need of modernisation. And that's your premise for comparative analysis? - laughable. Where are the real Nigerian youths, not these illiterate crumb-munching sycophants? They're all rogues!

Hey bro, where you at these days?

barcanista:
Do you know that the Amaechi and Fashola light rail are at an elevated altitude therefore propped by pillars which will undoubtedly increase it's cost?
Have you considered other logistics?

compensation? Shipping of materials? lands? etal?

How can you calculate based on KM only? Not saying that the project wasn't over-bloated though

THANK GOD SOME OF THEM AS START SEEING LIGHT, THE MUSIC IS CHANGING EITHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT THEY MUST TALK TRUTH. WE ARE NOT SAYING YOU GUYS SHOULD ACCEPT OR VOTE FOR JONATHAN, BUT SAY THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, YOU HEAR MR TALIBAN OF BARCANISTAN?

agabaI23:
How you say it is not new when the old narrow gauge has passed away. The fact that you have to remove the narrow guage is extra expenditure. It is new jare!!!

Do you know what is called right-of-way? Building a new railway track on an existing right-of-way is technically supposed to significantly reduce the overall project costs. This is a superior advantage the Abuja-Kaduna railway project has over Lagos light rail project.

For those who don't know, the Lagos light rail project is a dual project that also involves the reconstruction and upgrading of Federal highway from 6-lanes to 10 lanes. A BRT lane is also incorporated into this design. This is in addition to the light rail track been fitted alongside the road constructions. This project is the biggest infrastructural construction in West Africa. Right-of-way is being expanded to cater for the ambitious project hence leading to several demolition of structures and consequent compensations. The OP needs to study more on project management and cost analysis!

APC is a fraud !!

teemanbastos:
xpensive tins are d bst.

What do You think of your So called N1billion food? Still the best?

APC is equally corrupt like PDP. They are only good in hiding their corruption unlike PDP.

Wake up bro. federal rail projects are single guage to save cost. That is why you wont haave too many couches on it.
As for me we should have stuck to the standard guage of two lines.

Matthewbriggs:
Can APC Explain This...

Below is Addis Ababa light rail commissioned recently. It covers 46 Km and cost $475 Million (N 71.2 Billion) .
>> http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/urban/single-view/view/addis-ababa-light-rail-test-running-begins.html

(Goodluck Jonathan) Abuja-Kaduna standard guage rail project to commence operation in March 2015 covers 187.5km . It cost (N 80 Billion).
>>http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/abuja-kaduna-rail-line-delivered-dec-fg/

(Ameachi of APC) Port Harcourt Mono Rail date of completion unknown, covers 4Km and has gulped (N 150 Billion).
>> http://businessdayonline.com/2013/05/rivers-n150bn-monorail-project-to-be-completed-2015/

(Fashola of Lagos) Lagos Light Rail date of completion unknown, covers 57Km and has consumed (N 160 billion Billion)
>> http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/lagos-how-we-spent-n160bn-world-bank-loan-on-light-rail-project/188736/

Who are the thieves? Who are the looters? Who are we suppose to sweep out of office?

thev0ice1:


http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/abuja-kaduna-rail-line/

Nigeria's Standard Gauge Railway Modernisation Projects

The railway modernisation initiative in Nigeria aims at replacing the existing narrow gauge system with the wider standard gauge system, while allowing high-speed train operations on the railway network.

The $8.3bn contract for the Lagos-Kano standard gauge modernisation project awarded to CCECC in 2006 marked the beginning of the initiative.

The project, however, couldn't be implemented due to funding problems. It was later re-scoped into different stand-alone segments and the existing 1,124km narrow gauge Lagos-Kano line was rehabilitated.

Abuja-Kaduna is the first segment to be implemented as part of Lagos-Kano standard gauge project.

My friend, it's not new. They are modernizing and expanding. The land Abuja occupies today didn't drop from the sky yesterday. The rail tracks had already passed through the jungle where abuja is located today. It's those same rail lines that are being modernized. Granted they'll change a lot of things, but it'll be DECEITFUL to claim it is a NEW project




See the lagos pix, It's an entirely new project

The Lagos marina pix does not actually exist.

because advanced technology cost money gej trains ur outdated and not new so is ethiopia,lagos wants to join d likes johannesburg and tokyo as a modern megacity wit world class railing system

TonySpike:


Do you know what is called right-of-way? Building a new railway track on an existing right-of-way is technically supposed to significantly reduce the overall project costs. This is a superior advantage the Abuja-Kaduna railway project has over Lagos light rail project.

For those who don't know, the Lagos light rail project is a dual project that also involves the reconstruction and upgrading of Federal highway from 6-lanes to 10 lanes. A BRT lane is also incorporated into this design. This is in addition to the light rail track been fitted alongside the road constructions. This project is the biggest infrastructural construction in West Africa. Right-of-way is being expanded to cater for the ambitious project hence leading to several demolition of structures and consequent compensations. The OP needs to study more on project management and cost analysis!

OP's argument was dead on arrival as it was flawed and majorly driven by sentiment. He has stated severally that he is only interested in pointing out hypocrisy but of course he usually gets tangled in the process.
He just doesn't get it that we have the right to criticise our president if we feel he is underperforming

jaybee3:
Value of land and/or real estate to be compensated exactly the same?

Gej who bought twice as much land as them nko? Or is lamd expensive in port and cheap in abuja?