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Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 11:17pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
Image123: Now you want to reconcile an occupation with morality ![]() |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by malvisguy212: 11:17pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
Acekidc4:it is because of lack of righteousness that make us not to obey the commandment of God,your good deed cannot save you that why Jesus became sinner so that I can be made righteous,bible say we are dead in sin and made alive in Christ. A young ruler approach Jesus in mark 10:18; ◄ Mark 10:18 ► "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good except God alone. Jesus has two nature,flesh and the spirit of God, he don't want to comperd the nature of flesh and that of God.he want the young ruler to understand his message. Only God is good, and if you believe in Jesus Christ you becomes adopted sons of God and you will be good. John10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said YOU are "gods"'? 1 Like |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Image123(m): 11:20pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
Acekidc4:Unacceptable by who, when, why? |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Image123(m): 11:21pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
McSterling:Okay, your word against the Bible's word. Who should we believe and why oh? |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by McSterling(m): 11:24pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
johnydon22:Funny enough, the Jewish God who is supposed to be the quintessence of goodness isn't even as good as the average man. In fact, how many "bad men" would command the killing of infants? Yet he says we're not good no matter what we do and so he must kill his own son to make us good enough. |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by cold(m): 11:26pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
Image123:Well i'm the exception |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Image123(m): 11:27pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
johnydon22: I read sentences, not minds. His sentence clearly says who. Who do you think is inherently good between the two? |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Image123(m): 11:31pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
johnydon22:No, at all. His deeds are mentioned ;kind, faithful, helpful. Some other doctors carry on their occupation without these deeds. |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Image123(m): 11:34pm On Feb 14, 2015 |
cold:Interesting. The only good man/boy. So, how good are you, how do we know you are good? What is your yardstick for measuring? |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Acekidc4(m): 12:17am On Feb 15, 2015 |
Image123: Guy pls don't argue wit a biased mind ok!! Itz crystal clear n u knw it bt u re just tryin to twist d mata!! A good deed is a good deed wen u do it frm ur heart witout strings attached while a good deed is nt a good deed wen it has something attached!! |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Acekidc4(m): 12:28am On Feb 15, 2015 |
johnydon22: Oh yes I did it 4 nothing in return,e.g rewards, favours!! Ow abt dat!! |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by asala1: 2:26am On Feb 15, 2015 |
Clearly, Christians on this forum turn people to atheist. Following this argument from both side you can clearly see difference between the two groups. You guys are making mockery of yourselves and Christianity. Bill and Melinda Gate are spending millions of dollar to fight diseases in Africa yearly especially in Nigeria where we equally have many very rich religious institutions who don't even give a damn. These guys don't even believe in God. 2 Likes |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by sukkot: 5:52am On Feb 15, 2015 |
debosky:lmao debosky how far now ? ![]() |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by sukkot: 6:00am On Feb 15, 2015 |
Hiswordxray:i hear all that bros but the question was IS IT POSSIBLE TO BE GOOD WITHOUT GOD, and the answer is YES IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE GOOD WITHOUT GOD, never mind the motivation. just because a person believes in God does not make them morally superior to someone who doesnt believe in God, in fact you will find out that the ones who believe in God are the most evil. so the ability to be good or bad has nothing to do with your belief in God. if you were a wicked person before you found God-more than likely you will be a wicked christian. if you were a nice person before you found God then more than likely you will be a nice christian. it is not your belief in God that changes your character, it is your absolute dedication to God that changes your character. 9 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Acekidc4(m): 7:29am On Feb 15, 2015 |
sukkot: Oga mi, I salute u Sir!! Ow ur Night? |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Acekidc4(m): 7:36am On Feb 15, 2015 |
sukkot: Thank u so Much 4 dis Explanation. Can u Kindly pls explain dis to Image123 sir. He seems to be Sentimental n Biased toward dis Issue!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by malvisguy212: 8:20am On Feb 15, 2015 |
Acekidc4:see my friend. You cannot be good without God, have you ever love your neighbours as your self? Do you love God with all your mind?if you love your neighbours as your self, you will never do harm to them meaning you are good, for you to have all this you NEED the righteousness of Christ to be implanted in you.in the old testament if a priest come close to the ark of God he will die, bible say our unrighteousness is as filthy as rages. In His Sermon on the Mount, Jesus uttered these words: “You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect” ( Matthew 5:48).In Matthew 5:20, Jesus says that, if His hearers want to enter into the kingdom of heaven, their righteousness must exceed that of the Pharisees, who were the experts in the Law. Obeying the law is more than simply abstaining from killing, committing adultery, and breaking oaths. It’s also not getting angry with your brother, not lusting in your heart, and not making insincere oaths. At the end of all this, we learn that we must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees, and that comes from being perfect.ARE YOU PERFECT? Billgate gave billions of dollar to African children even when we don't know what is motive are,he acted good but at the end of the day his righteousness must exceed that of the teachers of the law. 1 Like |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 8:35am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: If we understand the difficulties and challenges we all face, we will learn to treat each other with more tolerance, love and care. Oga ur belief in anything be it yahweh or allah doesnt make you good, your behaviour does.. Bill gates clearly have more revere and compassion towards his fellow humans than pastors who are only interested in extorting money. I dont even see why you guys are arguing about this... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by Acekidc4(m): 8:51am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: I beg to disagree Sir!! Why can't I be good without GOD!! Why must it be d Motivation or influence of God b4 I Realized wat is good or Bad!! I kill sum1 nw , must I wait 4 any Bible or God to tell me wat I did is wrong!! Even my conscience n heart will tell me itz wrong!! |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by malvisguy212: 8:51am On Feb 15, 2015 |
johnydon22:are you a good person? Do you love your neighbours as your self? Will you lay your life for the people you love? |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 8:52am On Feb 15, 2015 |
Image123:sir please leave someone else's work ethic and occupation in this... Give me an example with general morality that has nothing to do with profession or occupation. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 8:55am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: I certainly will lay down my life for my family to live (People i love)... I must say the questions you ask here are clearly unnecessary... I consider the feelings of others in everything i do so yes i do love my neighbours. I do love every human on earth thats what it means to be a humanist. |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by malvisguy212: 8:59am On Feb 15, 2015 |
Acekidc4:I want to know who am arguing with, are you an atheists? Do you believe in God? |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 9:02am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: What does it matter if he is a believer or not? |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by malvisguy212: 9:04am On Feb 15, 2015 |
johnydon22:What do you mean "people I love"? meaning your love has limit |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by malvisguy212: 9:07am On Feb 15, 2015 |
johnydon22:oh yes, it matter most. |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 9:11am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: The people i love, my family, my country, africa and humanity... if loosing my life will keep my family, my country, africa or humanity safe then my life is just a little price to pay bro... |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 9:12am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212:Such diversity is the problem with mankind... |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by malvisguy212: 9:25am On Feb 15, 2015 |
johnydon22:does this mean you love everybody you have ever come in contact with? Even your atheists friends knows you are not telling the truth. |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by malvisguy212: 9:30am On Feb 15, 2015 |
johnydon22:what the need of accusing someone that does not exist? That how satan trick eve; Another reason for rejecting God (choosing atheism), is a willing acceptance of satanic deception. The angel Lucifer (“luminous one”) fell and became Satan (“adversary”) due to his desire to supplant God. This was Lucifer’s single-minded obsession. He not only rejected God by attempting to supplant Him, but he urged humans to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose against God for her own self-fulfilment: He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” (Genesis 3:1-5 ESV). The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s statements, then, contradict God’s statements and, finally, urge rebellion in seeking equality with God. This manifests in atheists as 1. Questioning whether there is a God to make statements in the first place, so God did not say anything. 2. Contradicting the statements said to have been spoken by God. 3. Seeking equality with God by replacing God with the self. This satanic deception appeals strongly to atheists as it bolsters two of their desired delusions: 1) absolute autonomy —being free to do as they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate accountability—there are no eternal consequences for doing as they please. |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 9:35am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212:lolzzz... i suggest you find out what being a humanist is all about.. Radiate boundless love towards the entire earth, undiminished by diversion, race, religion or orientation... we all deserve love @The bolded is a plain assumption, its an obvious fallacy.. anyway please enough dabbling into my private life style, can we discuss the issue at hand without personal questions cus i wont answer such questions anymore my brother. And please dont get emotional cus we atheist/agnostics or humanists only do not share ur beliefs, we are not ur enemy. |
Re: Can You Be Good Without GOD?? by johnydon22(m): 9:39am On Feb 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Now where did all this come out from? Please you are starting to take this thread out of contest. Kindly open a thread for the above and we will be more than happy to come and address it. Lolzzz now the guy is getting emotional... we are not even arguing the existence of any deity here so can you stick to the thread? We never made any claim that any deity said anything, the bible and the koran made that claim and we are here to refute it. Now lets continued with the thread at hand my brother...Hope you went to church tho.. ![]() 1 Like |
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