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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 8:51pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
![]() Denel Marlin 100km range surface to air missile Unguided tests to start 2016. To equip South African Navy and Army. All weather, radar guided missile. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 8:59pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
![]() Denel Dynamics is showing a model of its Raptor III precision stand-off weapon for the first time, in the company’s display outside Hangar 4. The weapon is tailored to a strategic mission against high-value targets, which are often hardened and well-defended. Like its predecessor, the Raptor II, the new weapon has pop-out wings to extend range. However, the Raptor III is aerodynamically cleaner with its systems being housed within the weapon body.Other systems, such as infrared seeker, have also been improved. The programme is currently in the development stage.Raptor III is a long-range (less than 300km) weapon that can be programmed to fly a variety of flightpaths. It is guided by jam-resistant GNSS (global navigation satellite system) and inertial navigation, with optional low-light TV or imaging infrared terminal-phase seekers.Automatic target recognition algorithms allow the weapon to identify its target and guide itself to impact with a circular error probability of less than 3m. Blast/frag and penetration warhead options are available. Attack profiles are best planned on the ground for optimal mission planning, but the Raptor III has a datalink for in-flight target reprogramming. The weapon can be fully integrated with an aircraft’s fire control system, or linked to the carrier’s system by wireless transmission. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:59pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
Patchesagain:Of over 53 African countries in Africa, why is it only southafrica hanging on desperately to this thread? We have had other African countries come, say their bit and left. But southafrica remain on nairalalnd, trying to force us to accept they are better. They want to have the last word, they want to show us outdated and twisted sources to make us believe they are better. So what makes southafrica this tactless, desperate, lacking in dignity and pride? It is because Nigeria is their superior indeed and in imagination. It's because their low self esteem bells ring off anywhere Nigeria is mentioned. This is peculiar to black southafricans who makes up more than 75% of the population. Southafrica was all fine and beautiful when Anglo-dutch ruled and structured the country for over 300 years as an extention of Europe;home away from home, then the forebears of patchesagain were only fit to cut gardens or mend shoes. The highest aspiration then was to become the head butler. Then came 1994 and the caves and jungles were thrown open and patchesagain and co burst forth into civilisation and inherited everything their masters built. South Africa was given the name rainbow nation. 20 years later, there's nothing to show for it. Every infrastructure in southafrica is under going decay under black south African government. School and education system is dead, hospitals are rotting away, the economy is under strangulation; it barely grows. Up above is a country where the colonial masters didn't even built substantial road. Any road or train track they built were to ferry away our resources. Mean while the first dutch settlers that arrived southafrica built ship yards and ships to European specification because it was meant to be their home. In Nigeria, no shipyards were built, they brought in ship to carry our resources and taxed our men and women highly. After 1960 we asked them to leave and embarked on self rule. We were about 40 million Nigerians then but we marched on. We went through the sun, we came out unweathered, we walked through the desert and were unscortched. We endoured tribal wars, insecurity and terrorism but we came out undone. And after just 55years we have put Africa on the global map by being the only African country to have a $.5 trillion economy, by far the biggest on the continent. We have the highest concentration of millionaires and billionaires on the continent. We have Africa's biggest movie industry. Africa's biggest entertainment industry Our artists have taken over all of Africa and are house hold names in many African countries. We are still the first African country to launch her own sattalite into the orbit(in collab with Chi We still are the first country in the world to pioneer the fully digitalised personal/ security ID. We have %75 percent of the economy and services of Africa. We have Africa's richest woman Africa's richest blogger. Just at 55 years. In contrast southafrica has been developing for 300 years by Europeans for Europeans. Today they are decaying, highest in HIV world wide. Highest in murder world wide Highest in rape world wide. 40% unemployment. And infant rápę, yeah they really only started seeing the light by 1994. Economy is in taters. Our boys have taken over their streets and girls. We as a nation have taken over Africa. Nigerians, this is why they are here and won't go away. This is their battle. They really have to win it. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 10:57pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
lezz: Keep dreaming my friend. One day, you will qualify to be listed as an emerging market. But today, you haven't emerged yet. You are still a frontier market. But keep those dreams going. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-11/gulf-nations-defy-oil-rout-to-top-list-of-best-emerging-markets?hootPostID=b5ea05008beeb0f058a2cad0d4d76225
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ThaVluit: 11:02pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/top-stories/19041-south-africa-s-secret-role-in-nigeria-s-boko-haram-battle South Africa’s secret role in Nigeria’s Boko Haram battle 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:10pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
overhypedsteve:It is not a SF unit but a SOF, SF capabilities are provided by 4 Reccon. That unit existed before the Nigerian SBS. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:27pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
saengine:Serious weapon this one. Attack profiles include: Attack direction. Attack angle. And more. With the ATR(automatic target recognition) it is able to compare the ground loaded target data to what it "sees" and lock on to that target, it can also send the pilot images prior hitting the target. Making jamming a bit difficult. It can surpass an air defence umbrella to hit defended targets. Also cheaper than cruise missiles. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:35pm On Feb 15, 2015 |
saengine:It is actually a family of missiles air to air, surface to air etc But air to air will be the priority as the A-Darter is heading to production soon, then SAAF will start looking for a BVR missile to arm the Gripens. The Meteor missile is likely to be bought a close gap similar to the IRIS-T. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:48am On Feb 16, 2015 |
lezz: I have allready debunked all of your claims - with fact I have shown, with citations, that south africa us superior by every criterion a nation is judged on. South africans are better educated, live longer, happier, enjoy more freedom, most have access to electricty and modern sanitation, better acess to medical care, we have better rule of law, a stronger democracy, a better economy, more revenue, we are decades ahead in terms of infastructure, we are african leaders in finance, we are members of BRICS - the list goes on and on. Most importantly - it is 55X better to live in South Africa than Nigeria Furthermore, Nigeria is the 16th most failed state in the world. You can continue to wildly thrash out long posts in a jealous rage, you can continue to make wild baseless allegations and build ad hominem after ad hominem, you can apply all the logical fallacies you want, it matters not - it is water off a ducks back This debate has been over for a long time, you are simply too obtuse to realize it Now, this is a military thread - we entertained you breifly, debunked your myths and vanquished your arguments. Debate has returned to military matters, post on-topic or start your own thread. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 6:00am On Feb 16, 2015 |
shame South Africa Gets Screwed strategypage.com/htmw/htspace/articles/20150207.aspx all they wanted was catch up wth nigeria's space program ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:41am On Feb 16, 2015 |
iterator25: The author of that article could have done better. The information which he has used is outdated and is grossly inaccurate. South Africa changed the terms of the former contract wherein Russia was to be expected to have a complete control of the satellite. Hence, SA negotiated for the complete transfer of the control of the satellite by solely SA and those conditions were agreed upon. SA now has a monopoly control of the satellite. The author shows immaturity because he/she roughly went after uninformed accusations that were made by opposition parties and deliberately avoided the feed from the manufactures about the quality (SAR) of the satellite. The manufacturer (NPO Mash) fooled the public as agreed upon the contract of confidentiality by marketing the product as civilian satellite while in actual fact it was a high quality satellite to the same class with that of Russian military. However, this is not about competition, Nigeria does not have a military satellite with SAR (synthetic aperture radar). So, tell me how does this become competition for something which you do not have? In conclusion, SA is happy with the quality of the satellite and intend to order two more in future. Even, the critics are now mum. http://www.russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:55am On Feb 16, 2015 |
mzilakazi:firstly, all information contained in that article was publish on February 7, 2015: and its in no way outdated. 2. all the author said were accurate and factual.. now if you dont have any credible source to counter it, your opinion is baseless here. shove it where the sun don't shine. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:06am On Feb 16, 2015 |
iterator24: It doesn't matter, but the information is grossly inaccurate. Firstly, the satellite is controlled in SA and the satellite is of good quality, ie, SAR. Such satellites are only now currently used by superpowers and Nigeria has zero of such satellites. The satellite can show underneath the ground and water, day and night irrespective of weather. SA intend to order two more in future. http://www.russianspaceweb.com/kondor-e.html I quote " By January 2015, sources hinted that despite some initial difficulties, Kondor-E successfully delivered first images in a shorter period of time after the launch than its predecessor , thanks to good backup capabilities onboard the satellite. Moreover, the initial glitches were quickly traced to a programming error and were successfully resolved. In fact, Kondor-E had reportedly been performing so successfully that the South African government considered ordering two more of these satellites even over the objections of the United States!" |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kikuyu1(m): 7:10am On Feb 16, 2015 |
EVarn:Ummm....yes. Isn't it obvious? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:25am On Feb 16, 2015 |
mzilakazi: dude listen, I understand you're being patriotic and all that ish. In this particular case, you've failed! we dont need a 2014 article to dispute a 2015 one.. your terms have changed, if you can't provide a credible source to dispute mine, all your post from here on are baseless. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 7:33am On Feb 16, 2015 |
patches689:relax, me boy!!! Nigeria has relieved south Africa of that burden. You don't have to worry about that. This has been confirmed by Koffi Annan, the former United Nation Secretary General who is neither a south African or a Nigerian. Nigeria remains the corner stone of Africa. Nigeria is the destiny of the African continent. Those were his words. Nigeria has overtaken southafrica as the new investment hub. And if you mention anything about economy again, I'll come biitch-slap your Soweto face. Southafrica's economy is a sad story. This isn't even news. Your company and infrastructures are being ran to the ground by ANC administration and policy. Infact whites are closing shops and selling off their firms because of your kind....FACT!!! Lazy bantus, everybody knows you people are very lazy, lacking in entrepreneurial skills. You blame your failings on your whitmasters. But Nigeria has forged and moved ahead. Lastly, I hope you are man enough to own up to the fact that every single thing in southafrica is seen all over the world as done by white Anglo-dutch . That's why we are your masters. We work it out and we are the only black country that has shown the world what blacks can do alone. You owe us respect, you nitwit. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:36am On Feb 16, 2015 |
lezz: [citation needed] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:46am On Feb 16, 2015 |
kikuyu1:indeed,no need to be smart with me,we arent fighing,are we?,i was just asking to verify.perhaps i should have checked your profile first. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:49am On Feb 16, 2015 |
South Africa still leads the foreign direct investment (FDI) in Africa, thus @lezz claims are lame and incorrect. Hence, people should refuse to be fooled by his uninformed, drunken and malnourished statements. http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/africa-in-focus/posts/2014/07/11-foreign-direct-investment-us-africa-leaders-summit 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:01am On Feb 16, 2015 |
Even in 2013, SA was still taking the lead in Foreign Direct Investment in Africa. http://www.southafrica.info/africa/fdi-070513b.htm#.VN0-gMXgHa8 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 8:43am On Feb 16, 2015 |
lezz: your claims are amusing,can you tell me a single development that your country is doing alone? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 9:16am On Feb 16, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: We'll have to see if they purchase an interim missile. With A Darter having a range of 19km, and can also be used as a self defence missile....they might stick with it until development of Marlin family of missiles is complete. Marlin project development will be far quicker and less risky than Umkhonto and A Darter. Denel has been working on the radar for close to ten years. Mechanical hardware will be used from Umkhonto and A Darter where applicable. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:16am On Feb 16, 2015 |
lezz: Stop wasting our time Come with facts and citations Until then, you arent worthy of my keystrokes And Nigeria is worthy of nothing more than our pity and charity Finally, this is a military thread. Post on topic or go start your own thread. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 10:07am On Feb 16, 2015 |
Patchesagain:south africa is nigeria's burden. after showing the world that you can't even maintain existng infrastructure or economic policies put in place by your dutch masters. the world scuffs at you and rekindle the myth of the black race. nigeria is reversng that myth while you are busy.squatting on her blog wasting your life way. a military thread you say? did you just realise ? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:01am On Feb 16, 2015 |
lezz: You listen too much from a faction of disgruntled white South Africans who still morn the collapse of apartheid system. The former government did not build infrastructure to black townships, but only to themselves. Majority of our people did not have water taps, sewage system, electricity, tarred roads, shopping malls in their townships. The ANC government built all that and even they have build more infrastructure to those areas which were only preferred by whites. They introduced fast underground train, build world class hospitals, upgraded Airports and ports to world standards, they have build world class stadiums, electrified many homes, connected our homes with clean running water and have invested more than $400 billion to build our infrastructure. Your claims are just all lies. http://www.southafrica.info/business/economy/infrastructure/ 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:07am On Feb 16, 2015 |
SA has a an advanced transport system that is on par with that of a fully developed country. http://www.southafrica.info/business/economy/infrastructure/transport.htm |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:39am On Feb 16, 2015 |
SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:41am On Feb 16, 2015 |
RECCESS
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:42am On Feb 16, 2015 |
SOUTH AFRICA
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:06pm On Feb 16, 2015 |
saengine:The A-Darter has range of 20km, useless in a BVR environment. The Brazilians use "miles". An interim missile will be bought. The development of the A-Darter was slow because of funding. |
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