ArtanK:


I'm not trying to hijack the thread but are you sure he's not Somali? because that hat is as Somali as it gets. My father and all of my uncles wear it.

I believe the swahili name for that cap/hat is Wallahi. Or is it the street name? I thought all muslim men had one. Or, is it the specific patterns?

Rafikizolo:


He's just Muslim. He's Swahili. The Swahili people are bantu.

both those guys are Somali. The first in in the somali government and was the former speaker of parliament and the second guy is former president of Somalia Sharmarke.


Stop trying to claim Somalis.

http://www.voanews.com/content/somalia-government-postpones-elections-to-2012-120713829/157985.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdirashid_Ali_Shermarke

Ajuran:




both those guys are Somali. The first in in the somali government and was the former speaker of parliament and the second guy is former president of Somalia Sharmarke.


Stop trying to claim Somalis.

http://www.voanews.com/content/somalia-government-postpones-elections-to-2012-120713829/157985.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdirashid_Ali_Shermarke

That was not the picture in question that the original poster posted. What he posted was of a man holding a child with the typical African Muslim "cap" it's called different things in different languages.

ArtanK thought the man with the cap was Somali, and I told him it's not only Somalis that wear those caps as we have them in Nigeria as well (I have several for example).

The guy pictured below is Nigerian for example.

Fulaman198:


That was not the picture in question that the original poster posted. What he posted was of a man holding a child with the typical African Muslim "cap" it's called different things in different languages.

ArtanK thought the man with the cap was Somali, and I told him it's not only Somalis that wear those caps as we have them in Nigeria as well (I have several for example).

The guy pictured below is Nigerian for example.

I saw it now. That guy is Somali. Look at his nose and the baby face, they are Somali. No Bantu ever looks like that. How many Bantu muslims wear that clothing in that region?

Why is it every time a Bantu uses a Picture of someone who doesnt look Bantu, there is never 100percent proof they are Bantu, but you guys claim them on the off chance they could be bantu when in reality their are no Bantus with such features, and if they are they are mixed.


Clearly that guy with the child is Somali, look at his nose, desert background, the baby face. Give me the link I can even research it

Ajuran:



I saw it now. That guy is Somali. Look at his nose and the baby face, they are Somali. No Bantu ever looks like that. How many Bantu muslims wear that clothing in that region?

Why is it every time a Bantu uses a Picture of someone who doesnt look Bantu, there is never 100percent proof they are Bantu, but you guys claim them on the off chance they could be bantu when in reality their are no Bantus with such features, and if they are they are mixed.


Clearly that guy with the child is Somali, look at his nose, desert background, the baby face. Give me the link I can even research it

Everyone is Somali to you, he could be Swahili

Fulaman198:



Everyone is Somali to you, he could be Swahili

You know that the only time a Swahili supposedly looks like a Somali, is when their is no direct proof or link.

But we all know that the guy looks Somali, so just using the history of the comments here, he is Somali until proven other wise with a link, that

can easily be produced by the guy who put the picture up. Many of the pictures have a caption stating what and who is in the picture.


Provide link, or assume he is Somali, as he looks it.

Ajuran:


You know that the only time a Swahili supposedly looks like a Somali, is when their is no direct proof or link.

But we all know that the guy looks Somali, so just using the history of the comments here, he is Somali until proven other wise with a link, that

can easily be produced by the guy who put the picture up. Many of the pictures have a caption stating what and who is in the picture.


Provide link, or assume he is Somali, as he looks it.

Provide link or assume he is a Kenyan Bantu

Fulaman198:



Provide link or assume he is a Kenyan Bantu

am not the one who posted the picture. how many kenyan bantus look like that man? lol

Ajuran:


You know that the only time a Swahili supposedly looks like a Somali, is when their is no direct proof or link.

But we all know that the guy looks Somali, so just using the history of the comments here, he is Somali until proven other wise with a link, that

can easily be produced by the guy who put the picture up. Many of the pictures have a caption stating what and who is in the picture.


Provide link, or assume he is Somali, as he looks it.

That's not how it works. You're the one that made the claim, so you should provide the proof. Seriously is this fool for real!?

BlackKenichi:

That's not how it works. You're the one that made the claim, so you should provide the proof. Seriously is this fool for real!?

How can i PROVE anything, when the person who posted the picture will not even give me a link? I can't find some random picture online,

who ever posted it has a responsibility to show proof, if not give me the link of the picture and I will look for it.

Bantus always lie about their features, anyone knows that guys nose and feature are not Bantu, but average Somali features. So keep that in mind.


All these old Somali men look like the one you posted who you tried to pass off as Bantu.....

Ajuran:


How can i PROVE anything, when the person who posted the picture will not even give me a link? I can't find some random picture online,

who ever posted it has a responsibility to show proof, if not give me the link of the picture and I will look for it.

Bantus always lie about their features, anyone knows that guys nose and feature are not Bantu, but average Somali features. So keep that in mind.

You claim that the person is Somali? Then prove it. No excuses.

BlackKenichi:

You claim that the person is Somali? Then prove it. No excuses.

You are a mad man with the education of a toddler. How can I proof anything without the link. I need the link to the picture.

How do you expect me to find a random picture online? Isn't it easier for the person who posted the picture, to simply give me a link, and I can do all the reading and caption that came with that picture?


Your education system in your country and your thought process are terrible. Simple reasonable skills have been turned into an impossible feat.

Consider that the other Somali on here immediately said that guy looked Somali too, and even using the appearance as well of the clothing and hat.

Give me link to the picture.

Ajuran:

You are a mad man with the education of a toddler. How can I proof anything without the link. I need the link to the picture.

Right click the pic then go to "view image" or "view image info" to see the web address. Then use google to search.

Ajuran:
How do you expect me to find a random picture online? Isn't it easier for the person who posted the picture, to simply give me a link, and I can do all the reading and caption that came with that picture?

The claimant must provide proof of his assertions. You say that the guy's Somali then back it up. Simple.

Ajuran:
Your education system in your country and your thought process are terrible. Simple reasonable skills have been turned into an impossible feat.

This from the trolling Somali fuckboy. I barely can take you seriously. Just bugger off!

BlackKenichi:

Right click the pic then go to "view image" or "view image info" to see the web address. Then use google to search.


The claimant must provide proof of his assertions. You say that the guy's Somali then back it up. Simple.


This from the trolling Somali fuckboy. I barely can take you seriously. Just bugger off!

Tried that and couldn't find anything. In any case, if he is Swahili as you claim, then he is not pure Bantu as Swahilis are Mostly Muslim and have been enslaved by Arabs and mixed with ARABS.

Thus why no pure Bantu can look like that Man. You have to fight for that man to be claimed as Bantu, cause you can find any pure Bantu who looks like him. I dont need to claim him, I was just surprised that he was pure Bantu. In any case, the guy looks like a typical Somali as shown below.

Ajuran:




both those guys are Somali. The first in in the somali government and was the former speaker of parliament and the second guy is former president of Somalia Sharmarke.


Stop trying to claim Somalis.

http://www.voanews.com/content/somalia-government-postpones-elections-to-2012-120713829/157985.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdirashid_Ali_Shermarke

I'm not trying to claim Somalis. I was referencing the picture I posted of the Swahili father kissing his son. I wasn't talking about the men he posted.

Ajuran:



Tried that and couldn't find anything. In any case, if he is Swahili as you claim, then he is not pure Bantu as Swahilis are Mostly Muslim and have been enslaved by Arabs and mixed with ARABS.

Thus why no pure Bantu can look like that Man. You have to fight for that man to be claimed as Bantu, cause you can find any pure Bantu who looks like him. I dont need to claim him, I was just surprised that he was pure Bantu. In any case, the guy looks like a typical Somali as shown below.

I never made the claim that he was Swahili. I was just saying that you should back up your own claims rather than other people doing it for you. Personally I don't care if the man is whatever!

Rafikizolo:


I'm not trying to claim Somalis. I was referencing the picture I posted of the Swahili father kissing his son. I wasn't talking about the men he posted.

So you admit that Swahilis are not pure Bantus. I thought you were saying that guy was a pure Bantu. That would be absurd cause the guy can pass as Cushitic.

Ajuran:



So you admit that Swahilis are not pure Bantus. I thought you were saying that guy was a pure Bantu. That would be absurd cause the guy can pass as Cushitic.

There's no such thing as a pure bantu.

BlackKenichi:

There's no such thing as a pure bantu.

Lol, then that guy is not of the same stock as Negroes in Nigeria. You can tell he is mixed with something, and that is obvious by the fact he is swahili.

Ajuran:



Lol, then that guy is not of the same stock as Negroes in Nigeria. You can tell he is mixed with something, and that is obvious by the fact he is swahili.

Nigerians aren't bantu. Try again!

BlackKenichi:

Nigerians aren't bantu. Try again!

All I am saying is that guy you posted has arabian admixture, if he didnt he wouldn't look like he could pass for a Somali/Ethiopian. the fact he is musiim and swahili says it all.

Ajuran:


All I am saying is that guy you posted has arabian admixture, if he didnt he wouldn't look like he could pass for a Somali/Ethiopian. the fact he is musiim and swahili says it all.

See that's where you're wrong. There are quite a number of dark skinned 100% African genetically Swahilis on the Swahili coast. Do you only think that Arab went to the Swahili coast? The Swahili coast attracted plenty of Africans from the interior and still does to this day.

BlackKenichi:

See that's where you're wrong. There are quite a number of dark skinned 100% African genetically Swahilis on the Swahili coast. Do you only think that Arab went to the Swahili coast? The Swahili coast attracted plenty of Africans from the interior and still does to this day.

lol, anyone with eyes can tell which swahili are mixed and which are just not mixed with arabs. Anyone who can read a book, knows the history of eastern Kenyan coast and the slave trade and the spread of Islam by Arabs/Somalis via slavery and war.

He is a pure Bantu bottom line. I don't know what this retard is complaining about.

gallivant:
He is a pure Bantu bottom line. I don't know what this retard is complaining about.

How can you say that and take yourself seriously? lol if that guy looks like that and is pure Bantu, than I guess all Somalis/Ethiopians are pure Bantus too.


weren't you the one who said their is no such thing as Bantu, as it was a language group.

If you mean that guy is pure Negro, than why dont all the NEGROES look like him?

Ajuran:



lol, anyone with eyes can tell which swahili are mixed and which are just not mixed with arabs. Anyone who can read a book, knows the history of eastern Kenyan coast and the slave trade and the spread of Islam by Arabs/Somalis via slavery and war.

Somalia has no history with the Kenyan coast. We were trading with the rest of the world when you wandered the desert.If slavery was rife in the Kenyan coast why are the people so mixed, where are the descedants of slaves in Arabia? Our relationship wad purely based on trade until late in the 18th century. We have diverse city states greater than anything in Somalia to prove it.

gallivant:


Somalia has no history with the Kenyan coast. We were trading with the rest of the world when you wandered the desert.If slavery was rife in the Kenyan coast why are the people so mixed, where are the descedants of slaves in Arabia? Our relationship wad purely based on trade until late in the 18th century. We have diverse city states greater than anything in Somalia to prove it.

1- I can't take you serious when you make up lies, like Somalis have no history on the Kenyan coast. When it was Somalis who helped the Arabs defeat the Portuguese inside Kenya, because the Arabs and their Kenyan slaves were taken over by portugal. This is recorded in Arab, Somali, Portuguese history.

2- The relationship of Oman and the east african coast, was based on master-slave relationship as documented anywhere that has knowledge stored.

Ajuran:



How can you say that and take yourself seriously? lol if that guy looks like that and is pure Bantu, than I guess all Somalis/Ethiopians are pure Bantus too.


weren't you the one who said their is no such thing as Bantu, as it was a language group.

If you mean that guy is pure Negro, than why dont all the NEGROES look like him?

Kenya is a diverse place, that's why it's the best. We have no time for ethnic or racial bigotry, we would rather waste our energies on a safari.

Ajuran:



1- I can't take you serious when you make up lies, like Somalis have no history on the Kenyan coast. When it was Somalis who helped the Arabs defeat the Portuguese inside Kenya, because the Arabs and their Kenyan slaves were taken over by portugal. This is recorded in Arab, Somali, Portuguese history.

Show us..

2- The relationship of Oman and the east african coast, was based on master-slave relationship as documented anywhere that has knowledge stored.

Present facts? Show us how this was the case.

gallivant:


Present facts? Show us how this was the case.

In East Africa a slave trade was well established before the Europeans arrived on the scene. It was driven by the sultanates of the Middle East. African slaves ended up as sailors in Persia, pearl divers in the Gulf, soldiers in the Omani army and workers on the salt pans of Mesopotamia (modern Iraq). Many people were domestic slaves, working in rich households. Women were taken as sex slaves.

Arab traders began to settle among the Africans of the coast, resulting in the emergence of a people and culture known as Swahili. In the second half of the 18th century, the slave trade expanded and became more organised. There was also a huge demand for ivory, and slaves were used as porters to carry it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/9chapter3.shtml


I HOPE THE BBC IS A CREDIBLE SOURCE AND WILL SUFFICE AS A RESPECTABLE SOURCE OF INFORMATION
THE ENTIRE SWAHILI PEOPLE EMERGED BECAUSE OF SLAVERY, AND THE WOMEN BEING SEX SLAVES, THUS ACCEPTING ISLAM

I am gonna come back in a few hours. I got run some errands.

Ajuran:
I am gonna come back in a few hours. I got run some errands.

Why are you running? Lol

Btw, that was a different link from what you posted. You are becoming desperate. .