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Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Rilwayne001: 3:24pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
The book ascribed to Matthew says, 27, v. 45, "Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour." Ver. 51 "At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split" , 52 "The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life." 53 "They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people." Such^^^ is the account which this dashing writer of the book of Matthew gives, but in which he is not supported by the writers of the other books. The writer of the book ascribed to Mark, in detailing the circumstances of the crucifixion, makes no mention of any earthquake, nor of the rocks rending, nor of the graves opening, nor of the dead men walking out. The writer of the book of Luke is silent also upon the same points. And as to the writer of the book of John, though he details all the circumstances of the crucifixion down to the burial of Christ, he says nothing about either the darkness- the veil of the temple- the earthquake- the rocks- the graves- nor the dead men. Now, if it had been true that those things had happened, and if the writers of those books had lived at the time they did happen, and had been the persons they are said to be, namely, the four men called apostles, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, [b] it was not possible for them, as true historians, even without the aid of inspiration, not to have recorded them. The things, supposing them to have been facts, were of too much notoriety not to have been known, and of too much importance not to have been told. All these supposed apostles must have been witnesses of the earthquake, if there had been any; for it was not possible for them to have been absent from it; the opening of the graves and the resurrection of the dead men, and their walking about the city, is of greater importance than the earthquake. An earthquake is always possible and natural, and proves nothing but this opening of the graves is supernatural, and directly in point to their doctrine, their cause, and their apostleship. Had it been true, it would have filled up whole chapters of those books, and been the chosen theme and general chorus of all the writers; but instead of this, little and trivial things, and mere prattling conversations of, he said this, and he said that, are often tediously detailed, while this, most important of all, had it been true, is passed off in a slovenly manner by a single dash of the pen, and that by one writer only, and not so much as hinted at by the rest. [/b] It is an easy thing to tell a lie, but it is difficult to support the lie after it is told. The writer of the book of Matthew should have told us who the saints were that came to life again, and went into the city, and what became of them afterward, and who it was that saw them- for he is not hardy enough to say he saw them himself; whether they came out naked, and all in natural buff, he-saints and she-saints; or whether they came full dressed, and where they got their dresses; whether they went to their former habitations, and reclaimed their wives, their husbands, and their property, and how they were received; whether they entered ejectments for the recovery of their possessions, or brought actions of crim. con. against the rival interlopers; whether they remained on earth, and followed their former occupation of preaching or working; or whether they died again, or went back to their graves alive, and buried themselves. Strange, indeed, that an army of saints should return to life, and nobody know who they were, nor who it was that saw them, and that not a word more should be said upon the subject, nor these saints have anything to tell us! Had it been the prophets who (as we are told) had formerly prophesied of these things, they must have had a great deal to say. They could have told us everything and we should have had posthumous prophecies, with notes and commentaries upon the first, a little better at least than we have now. Had it been Moses and Aaron and Joshua and Samuel and David, not an unconverted Jew had remained in all Jerusalem. Had it been John the Baptist, and the saints of the time then present, everybody would have known them, and they would have out-preached and out-famed all the other apostles. But, instead of this, these saints were made to pop up, like Jonah's gourd in the night, for no purpose at all but to wither in the morning. Thus much for this part of the story...SMDH. If four men are eye-witnesses and ear-witnesses to a scene,they will, without any concert between them, agree as to time and place when and where that scene happened. Their individual knowledge of the thing, each one knowing it for himself, renders concert totally unnecessary; the one will not say it was in a mountain in the country, and the other at a house in town: the one will not say it was at sunrise, and the other that it was dark. For in whatever place it was, at whatever time it was, they know it equally alike. |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by SNCOQ3(m): 5:05pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
What's the title of the book and who's the author? |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Rilwayne001: 5:41pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
SNCOQ3: Thats not necessary. Address the topic. How come Luke, John, and Mark makes no mention of this powerful occurence? atleast they must have been witnesses of the earthquake, for it was not possible for them to have been absent from it; the opening of the graves and the resurrection of the dead men, and their walking about the city, is of greater importance than the earthquake. how come they didnt write anything about it?. How about the army of saints that returned to life, and nobody know who they were, nor who it was that saw them, and that not a word more should be said upon the subject, nor these saints have anything to tell us!. How come no old prophet prophesy about this powerful supernatural incident?. |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by SNCOQ3(m): 6:44pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:That is not for you to determine; Intellectual etiquette demands that you do. The source and the author of the information is important for a well-rounded analysis. You should provide it if you're actually interested in a meaningful input. |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Rilwayne001: 6:48pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
SNCOQ3: It is culled from the bible. Oya face the topic. |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by SNCOQ3(m): 7:27pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:That's a shame. What are you hiding? Since you won't do the needful, I'll do you an undeserved favour by recommending a scholarly book that may save you from your lopsided view: www.christianbook.com/the-case-for-the-resurrection-jesus/gary-habermas/9780825427886/pd/427886?event=AFF&p=1011693&
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Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Rilwayne001: 7:49pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
SNCOQ3: ![]() ![]() Why refer me to a book? can't you copy from that book and use it in addressing the OP? |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Nobody: 7:53pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
muhammed d jihadist
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Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Macelliot(m): 8:19pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Replies to my mention on ur earlier comment about Biafra. https://www.nairaland.com/2159903/breakingnews-nigeria-cease-exist-december#30951004 I got banned on politics-S since Feb 9. Ban ends on March 9. I suspects your jihadist brother (maclatunji) is responsible simply because I defended My Nation(Igbo) from a Yoruba dude..... No Problem... Francistony didn't serve you well as I expected... I would have given you Undertaker's RIP smackdown, but due to some Circumstances, I won't.... Funny, You even told francistony about forging him an Oyo state birth certificate.... Hmm, wonders!! Oyo 4 that matter, Brown-roof house everywhere. Dirty region.. Hehehehe, wetin persin no go hear? You are not even from South-west. U are from North-Central(Ilorin). Fake Yoruba man. You see ur life? That reminds me of how Ilorin and her King (Afonja) were conquered by the Jihadist Fulani-Arab cravemen from funta-jalon. Imagine, from Oba to Emir of Ilorin. Your fore-fathers were the greatest COWARDS in History. Thumbs up! Hw Market my Friend, Rilwayne? |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by SNCOQ3(m): 8:24pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:What happened to "Culled from a book" in the OP? You omitted the vague attribution after I demanded for the source and the name of the author you ought to have provided. Its disgraceful how low you muslims will go just to score a cheap point. |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Nobody: 8:32pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Muhammed d terrorist ![]() |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Rilwayne001: 8:57pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
SNCOQ3: Stop gasping at straw mr. man. ![]() If you have nothing to say about the OP, kindly beat it biko. |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Nobody: 8:59pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: ![]() |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Macelliot(m): 9:12pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
OREMUSSANCTUS:Guy, stop all this..... Stop being kiddish! |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Rilwayne001: 9:12pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Macelliot: hahahahahahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by SNCOQ3(m): 9:48pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:There's no straw to grasp. Just an OP that was further debased from "Culled from a book" to outright plagiarism by a dishonest muslim. |
Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Rilwayne001: 5:02pm On Apr 16, 2015 |
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Re: Mattew VS John,Mark,Luke: A contradictory gospel (Part1) by Scholar8200(m): 12:27pm On Apr 17, 2015 |
The passage you are referring to spoke of saints, of which all the prophets was a small fraction! The names you mentioned in the latter part and others you might know, were not the only righteous people in the old testament; there were myriads not necessarily mentioned by name. Note that apart from the earthquake etc, the resurrection of the saints took place 'after His resurrection Matthew 27:53 After His resurrection, Jesus ascended to Heaven Luke 24:50 (prophesied in Daniel 7:13 - 14, Clouds used here refers to a large gathering of saints , Heb 12:1 confirms this, also see Revelations 1:7 and 19:11,14) The saints, like Christ did, appeared for a brief period and they also ascended with Him (or should I say they ascended before He did, going by Acts 1:9, Cloud in that passage refers to the gathering of glorified saints (could not have been watery vapour). Now John affirmed of many other signs which he (and I guess other authors) omitted not because they did not happen but, in his words,". . . these are written that you might believe that Jesus Christ is the Son Of GOD; and that believing you might have life through HIs Name John 20:30,31 also see John 21:25. |
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