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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 1:44pm On Feb 22, 2015
Mekanus:
I fuckinglove atheism

Hehehehehehe thats goes for all of us... Maximum peace of mind and freedom to be you and you alone and not let fables and myths decorated in a book run ur life... its a beautiful feeling bro.

#WeFuckingLoveAtheism

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 2:31pm On Feb 22, 2015
joseph1832:
I was born into a very Christian family, into the strict order and dogmatic ways of the Eternal Sacred Order of the Cherubim and Seraphim. Religion was all I knew then and going to church was paramount!. I was liberated when I was in my second year in Uniben.

may I ask how that came about? I often wonder what it takes to break free from it when you're in deep already.

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 3:15pm On Feb 22, 2015
Liekiller:


may I ask how that came about? I often wonder what it takes to break free from it when you're in deep already.

It all starts with a question

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by joseph1832(m): 4:22pm On Feb 22, 2015
Liekiller:


may I ask how that came about? I often wonder what it takes to break free from it when you're in deep already.
There's a saying "education is an eye opener", and education, opened my eyes....

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by joseph1832(m): 4:49pm On Feb 22, 2015
anssy:


that does not mean that he does not worship me
Oh I see. If your husband cheats on you doesn't mean he doesn't worship you, genius!.
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Nobody: 5:03pm On Feb 22, 2015
simplex2:


Its best that way for your sanity and peace of mind. I don't engage in arguments with them religious felas; unless when they tend to disturb my peace. Was in a bus for a short journey sometime ago when a preacher, as usual, decide to disturb the entire bus with condemnation and damnation of whoever won't believe in his preaching. Then he started yabbing about how unpeaceful other religions are and how they are known for causing wars, terrorism and unrest and how only in christianity that there is absolute peace that passes all understanding. He was seating close to me so I just asked him in a calm voice: 'Isn't that the same things christians did in times past?' He tried to feign ignorance (maybe he didn't really know) but I reminded them that god did command his people to wipe out the amalekites, caninites and any pegan and unbeliever that crosses their path, same thing allah told the muslims so how is it peaceful in his own religion.

His mistake was to think he would intimidate me with a louder voice but I persisted. Reminded him that all the first born of egypt was murdered by his peaceful god just to make a point. Reminded him that jericho was utterly destroyed because they refused to open their gates and allow the isrealites to pass thru. Backing up the little conversation with bible verses murdered whatever defense he was going to put up. He pulled up crap about old and new testament but I reminded him that right inside the bus, he had mentioned that god is the same yesterday, today and forever so why is he adjusting the nature of god to suit his purpose.

Now I was able to engage into this argument by taking the stance of a muslim and being Lagos where there's mixed religious population, some peeps inside the bus (who are obviously muslims) concurred and supported me. Now imagine if I had taken a stance that there was no god? I will of course be getting disdains from both muslims and christians alike inside the bus.

I don't argue with them felas as long as they let me be. I prefer discussing 'issues' with them rather than discussing god with them (maybe because of my agnostic nature). Like the issue of tithing my colleagues at work were arguing with me: when I opened Deutronomy 14 and showed them where it is allowed to eat your tithe and even buy beer with it and drink.
But its obvious nothing you say will free them from their bliss.



Honestly, those religious folks are nothing but pests. I remember a day when an overly enthusiastic Jehovah Witness (abi Na deeper life) tried to woo me for his God. After we engaged ourselves for any 30 minutes, he said "You should believe in God so that you ll not have challenges" n I asked him "Are you worshipping your God because of the protection he has to offer and not because we were created to worship him?" Dude started stammering and the funniest part is that I didn't even quote any bible verse. It was hilarious.

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 6:06pm On Feb 22, 2015

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by mumumugu(m): 6:06pm On Feb 22, 2015
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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 6:11pm On Feb 22, 2015
mumumugu:


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ok i have done that... thanks bro... can you modify the one you quote and remove it
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 6:18pm On Feb 22, 2015
Hey guys i created a thread but christians avoid it like wild fire...
https://www.nairaland.com/2161144/sodom-gomorrah grin grin

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by mumumugu(m): 6:20pm On Feb 22, 2015
anssy:
I really want to get married to a man that is not religious, you know one of the advantages of marrying an atheist hubby is that he will worship only you, I will don't want to share his attention with an imaginary god.

lwtmb, u must be very jelous girl,
"atheist (all)guys sabi cheat wellaooooooo but i bet he will worship a physical mistress
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by anssy(f): 7:33pm On Feb 22, 2015
joseph1832:
Oh I see. If your husband cheats on you doesn't mean he doesn't worship you, genius!.

everyone cheats, you even cheat on the god you worship, so if my husband cheat on me, it does not mean that he does not worship me, It is a notorious fact that the flesh is weak, i just do not any god to share his worship with me, how can i share his worship with an imaginary god , I need all the attention, did I mention that he will pay his tithe to me and not God, he is going to make us try all the sex styles ant not just missionary, when I am sick he will take me to the hospital and not to the church, he won't threaten my future kids with Hellfire, when we have a problem, we will look for a solution and not praying to an imagination, the benefits of marring an atheist is unending.

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by anssy(f): 7:40pm On Feb 22, 2015
mumumugu:


lwtmb, u must be very jelous girl,
"atheist (all)guys sabi cheat wellaooooooo but i bet he will worship a physical mistress
you won the bet, he will worship a physical boo and not god, and I will bless accordingly.

Oh Yes I am Avery jealous lady, I will not share my husband's worship with an imaginary god, that is an insult to my person,
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 7:54pm On Feb 22, 2015
anssy:


everyone cheats, you even cheat on the god you worship, so if my husband cheat on me, it does not mean that he does not worship me, It is a notorious fact that the flesh is weak, i just do not any god to share his worship with me, how can i share his worship with an imaginary god , I need all the attention, did I mention that he will pay his tithe to me and not God, he is going to make us try all the sex styles ant not just missionary, when I am sick he will take me to the hospital and not to the church, he won't threaten my future kids with Hellfire, when we have a problem, we will look for a solution and not praying to an imagination, the benefits of marring an atheist is unending.

So you don't have a problem sharing his "worship" with other women?? While I agree with a lot of what you say I find the bolded part quite tragic. Many women don't seem to realize that these financial expectations in relationships put them in the position of a prostitute. Maybe men would actually have more respect for their girlfriends/wives if they were less materialistic and greedy or at least willing and able to make their own money?
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by malvisguy212: 8:08pm On Feb 22, 2015
Liekiller:


may I ask how that came about? I often wonder what it takes to break free from it when you're in deep already.
Another reason for rejecting God (choosing atheism), is a willing
acceptance of satanic deception.

The angel Lucifer fell
and became Satan (“adversary”) due to
his desire to supplant God. This was
Lucifer’s single-minded obsession.
He not only rejected God by attempting
to supplant Him, but he urged humans
to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose
against God for her own self-fulfilment:
He said to the woman, “Did God actually
say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the
garden’?” And the woman said to the
serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the
trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You
shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is
in the midst of the garden, neither shall
you touch it, lest you die.’” But the
serpent said to the woman, “You will not
surely die. For God knows that when you
eat of it your eyes will be opened, and
you will be like God, knowing good and
evil.” (Genesis 3:1-5 ESV).

The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict God’s
statements and, finally, urge rebellion in
seeking equality with God.
This manifests in atheists as;
1. Questioning whether there is a God to
make statements in the first place, so
God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to
have been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing
God with the self.

This satanic deception appeals strongly
to atheists as it bolsters two of their
desired delusions: 1) absolute autonomy
—being free to do as they please, and 2)
the lack of ultimate accountability—there
are no eternal consequences for doing as
they please.

I tell you the truth, I have encounter God ,long before I even became a Christian I have seen Jesus saved me in my dream.God's there.
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by Liekiller(f): 8:40pm On Feb 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
Another reason for rejecting God (choosing atheism), is a willing
acceptance of satanic deception.

The angel Lucifer fell
and became Satan (“adversary”) due to
his desire to supplant God. This was
Lucifer’s single-minded obsession.
He not only rejected God by attempting
to supplant Him, but he urged humans
to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose
against God for her own self-fulfilment:
He said to the woman, “Did God actually
say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the
garden’?” And the woman said to the
serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the
trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You
shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is
in the midst of the garden, neither shall
you touch it, lest you die.’” But the
serpent said to the woman, “You will not
surely die. For God knows that when you
eat of it your eyes will be opened, and
you will be like God, knowing good and
evil.” (Genesis 3:1-5 ESV).

The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict God’s
statements and, finally, urge rebellion in
seeking equality with God.
This manifests in atheists as;
1. Questioning whether there is a God to
make statements in the first place, so
God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to
have been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing
God with the self.

This satanic deception appeals strongly
to atheists as it bolsters two of their
desired delusions: 1) absolute autonomy
—being free to do as they please, and 2)
the lack of ultimate accountability—there
are no eternal consequences for doing as
they please.

I tell you the truth, I have encounter God ,long before I even became a Christian I have seen Jesus saved me in my dream.God's there.

You're in the wrong thread sir

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by blueyedgeek(m): 8:42pm On Feb 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
Another reason for rejecting God (choosing atheism), is a willing
acceptance of satanic deception.
How about,
* There is no verifiable proof of the existence of deities

* God refuses to show up during the world cup final for the whole world to see and believe

* Gods in general only exist as long as there are believers, I'm pretty sure Zeus and the Greek gods died when people stopped believing in them.

* God only exists in the mind of those that believe.

I stopped believing and he stopped existing.


The angel Lucifer fell
and became Satan (“adversary”) due to
his desire to supplant God. This was
Lucifer’s single-minded obsession.
He not only rejected God by attempting
to supplant Him, but he urged humans
to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose
against God for her own self-fulfilment:
He said to the woman, “Did God actually
say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the
garden’?” And the woman said to the
serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the
trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You
shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is
in the midst of the garden, neither shall
you touch it, lest you die.’” But the
serpent said to the woman, “You will not
surely die. For God knows that when you
eat of it your eyes will be opened, and
you will be like God, knowing good and
evil.” (Genesis 3:1-5 ESV).
Aren't you the least bit surprised as to what brought about this change in Lucifer? Seems like God's plan from the beginning was flawed. Also, puny Lucifer almost overthrew his creator and was also able to convince one third of the angels to side with him, something must have been very wrong with God's way of ruling his angels. People only rebel when they have been wronged. Think about that, your God didn't have a perfect rule and so the angels rebelled. Also, God f****ing set Adam and Eve to fail, could have at least warned them about the latest developments in his perfect heaven where there is no war.

The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict God’s
statements and, finally, urge rebellion in
seeking equality with God.
This manifests in atheists as;
1. Questioning whether there is a God to
make statements in the first place, so
God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to
have been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing
God with the self.
horse**** no one seeks equality with something that exists in the mind of believers only.

This satanic deception appeals strongly
to atheists as it bolsters two of their
desired delusions: 1) absolute autonomy
—being free to do as they please, and 2)
the lack of ultimate accountability—there
are no eternal consequences for doing as
they please.
You think that's what this is all about but you are very wrong. We are simply being honest with our selves and not clinging to a lie all in a bid to go to perfect heaven where angels fight wars like humans


I tell you the truth, I have encounter God ,long before I even became a Christian I have seen Jesus saved me in my dream.God's there.
Not surprised and I believe you. God is probably too afraid to show himself to atheists as they would probably be too much for him to handle

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by malvisguy212: 8:59pm On Feb 22, 2015
Liekiller:


You're in the wrong thread sir
blueyedgeek and liekiller.
Ok, it's a choice. Thank you for your time.

Liekiller I understand you must have mistook me for an elderly man, no, am a young guy mid 32 I've done a lot of thing in my life until God say my name, yes He did.
◄ Ecclesiastes 12:1 ►
Remember your Creator in the days of
your youth, before the days of trouble
come and the years approach when you
will say, "I find no pleasure in them"--
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by blueyedgeek(m): 9:03pm On Feb 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
blueyedgeek and liekiller.
Ok, it's a choice. Thank you for your time.

Liekiller I understand you must have mistook me for an elderly man, no, am a young guy mid 32 I've done a lot of thing in my life until God say my name, yes He did.
◄ Ecclesiastes 12:1 ►
Remember your Creator in the days of
your youth, before the days of trouble
come and the years approach when you
will say, "I find no pleasure in them"--
Thanks for your time as well. Go preach somewhere else, if God himself shows up here, he might end up an atheist.

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 10:21pm On Feb 22, 2015
blueyedgeek:
Thanks for your time as well. Go preach somewhere else, if God himself shows up here, he might end up an atheist.
hahahahaha so true grin
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by lepasharon(f): 10:26pm On Feb 22, 2015
I am not an atheist. I dont know what I beleive in anymore undecided Everything I thought was true is crumbling before me sad Now that I am seeing religion for what it is. I feel like I have been cheated

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 10:50pm On Feb 22, 2015
lepasharon:
I am not an atheist. I dont know what I beleive in anymore undecided Everything I thought was true is crumbling before me sad Now that I am seeing religion for what it is. I feel like I have been cheated

Welcome to reality... apparently you need a little time to get your mind straight, takes time to adjust our indoctrinated mind after we have unshackled ourselves from the myths we have been sold to...Soon you will brand new, at peace and will see the world in a new perspective devoid of superstition...
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by malvisguy212: 10:57pm On Feb 22, 2015
lepasharon:
I am not an atheist. I dont know what I beleive in anymore undecided Everything I thought was true is crumbling before me sad Now that I am seeing religion for what it is. I feel like I have been cheated
you made this comment on the wrong house, place this comment
On the Christian home (the Christian chat box). Have you ever made a post in the Christian home ?
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 11:06pm On Feb 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
you made this comment on the wrong house, place this comment
On the Christian home (the Christian chat box). Have you ever made a post in the Christian home ?

lolzzzz...so more lies and fables will follow?

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by colored(m): 11:18pm On Feb 22, 2015
malvisguy212:
you made this comment on the wrong house, place this comment
On the Christian home (the Christian chat box). Have you ever made a post in the Christian home ?
dude what the heck is your problem? leave the girl alone. is it a crime she's trying to free herself psychologically from your stupid ass religion?

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by colored(m): 11:21pm On Feb 22, 2015
johnydon22:


lolzzzz...so more lies and fables will follow?
lol I can only imagine how they would feed her with more fictional bible passage to keep her in the faith

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by malvisguy212: 11:23pm On Feb 22, 2015
colored:
dude what the heck is your problem? leave the girl alone. is it a crime she's trying to free herself psychologically from your stupid ass religion?
sorry bro.
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by simplex2: 11:23pm On Feb 22, 2015
lepasharon:
I am not an atheist. I dont know what I beleive in anymore undecided Everything I thought was true is crumbling before me sad Now that I am seeing religion for what it is. I feel like I have been cheated

Religion is the biggest fraud perpetuated by MAN! You are in the right path of self-discovery. They will tell you not to ask any questions; to believe, just believe, have faith..bla..bla..bla! Then they start threatening you with blasphemy when you ask questions. Then they threaten you with hell fire!

The answers you seek are not in any religious thread. The truth shall set you free!

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 11:25pm On Feb 22, 2015
colored:
lol I can only imagine how they would feed her with more fictional bible passage to keep her in the faith

Yeah something like [size=20] A donkey talked and balaam didnt run like hell but engaged the donkey in a conversation [/size] hahahahahahahahaha i don die for this people jareee....grin grin

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by joseph1832(m): 3:51am On Feb 23, 2015
anssy:


everyone cheats, you even cheat on the god you worship, so if my husband cheat on me, it does not mean that he does not worship me, It is a notorious fact that the flesh is weak, i just do not any god to share his worship with me, how can i share his worship with an imaginary god , I need all the attention, did I mention that he will pay his tithe to me and not God, he is going to make us try all the sex styles ant not just missionary, when I am sick he will take me to the hospital and not to the church, he won't threaten my future kids with Hellfire, when we have a problem, we will look for a solution and not praying to an imagination, the benefits of marring an atheist is unending.
"Everyone cheats" that's a fallacy! And please don't generalize, you don't know the mind set of everyone do you? Neither can you read minds can you?

If you have no problem with your husband cheating on you, its no business of mine, have a lovely life.
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by johnydon22(m): 9:36am On Feb 23, 2015
why dah heck are we talking about marriage here..
Re: Atheists, Agnostics, Deists And Liberals And Freethinkers Lets Meet Here. by nana228(f): 9:41am On Feb 23, 2015
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