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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 12:27pm On Feb 25, 2015
FighterPilot:



Why is it that you always treat Afrikaaners as if they are not South Africans? I am a mixed coloured of White and Malay decendent and I look more like a white man. Many South Africans confuse me as that and surely in Nigeria I will be categorised as white. So, does that make me a foreigner? If being black does not make Beyonce or R-Kelly a foreigner in America, why should it make me a foreigner in Africa.

You Nigerians are only jealous because your country is 100% black and is not mixed like that of SA. We are a rainbow nation in Africa.
Yes, you are a foreigner and when Malema gets into power you will soon realize that rainbow nations and unicorns only exist in your mind.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by TempyPusher: 12:56pm On Feb 25, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
Yes, you are a foreigner and when Malema gets into power you will soon realize that rainbow nations and unicorns only exist in your mind.

Old tired prediction. Story repeated since the 90s. Try another one. Like how Boko Haram revealed the divisions between the north and the south in Nigeria - or between the haves and have nots (whichever you choose). We are talking "bombs, guns and pangas" divisions. Now that's real.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:21pm On Feb 25, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
Yes, you are a foreigner and when Malema gets into power you will soon realize that rainbow nations and unicorns only exist in your mind.


Then you are damned crazy, because both my parents and their great great grand parents were born in SA. My maternal Irish grandfather came in SA when my mother's family was already for hundreds of years living in SA.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:35pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


The Israelis downloaded the content of the chips, returned it back to South-Africa, and got back their lone agent.

Even if they copied the contents of the blueprint, which by means of security of intellectual property is copyright protected, why would that make you worry? Blueprints of weapons of mass destruction are stolen everytime and the worst some countries hardly recover their blueprint. You cannot blame the SA intelligence because you cannot read the minds of those who are trusted to work with such weapons. If by any means they are being compromised by quick rich or get-rich quick schemes in exchange of selling the blueprint, you would never do anything until the crime is committed. However, I do thank our intelligence for their work well done by recovering those blueprint in time.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:06pm On Feb 25, 2015
TempyPusher:


You have no argument - this is DieVluit.

See what the man below did at Denel.

ANC government forces ALL South African companies controlled by white-men to employ black South Africans who have ZERO experience and also ZERO entrepreneural skills into management and board positions under a law called BEE....Black Economic Empowerment, it forces ALL affected South African companies against their wish to employ incompetent and half-brained Soweto retaarded black workers into big positions and pay them fat salaries which has killed the profitability of many South African companies and some have collapsed.

I have a South African man here with me now who tells me all the secrets of your rotten ANC prison yard, you think you can fool us with manipulated internet illustrations?

BEE....Black Economic Empowerment law of ANC government South Africa = Black Employment to jobs they don't qualify for....Employed by force of new ANC law.....in a normal professionally competitive aptitude test like GMAT/GRE and oral interview by HR recruitment experts like Accenture, ALL SOUTH AFRICAN BLACKS WILL FAIL THE STANDARD UNBIASED EMPLOYMENT TEST !

It is called the Fool's Gold tongue tongue tongue

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21576655-black-economic-empowerment-has-not-worked-well-nor-will-it-end-soon-fools-gold

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:19pm On Feb 25, 2015
agaugust:


ANC government forces ALL South African companies controlled by white-men to employ black South Africans who have ZERO experience and also ZERO entrepreneural skills into management and board positions under a law called BEE....Black Economic Empowerment, it forces ALL affected South African companies to employ incompetent blacks into big positions and pay them fat salaries which has killed the profitability of many South African companies and some have collapsed.

I have a South African man here with me now who tells me all the secrets of your rotten ANC prison yard, you think you can fool us with manipulated internet illustrations?

BEE....Black Economic Empowerment law of ANC government South Africa = Black Employment to jobs they don't qualify for....Employed by force of new ANC law.

It is called the Fool's Gold tongue tongue tongue

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21576655-black-economic-empowerment-has-not-worked-well-nor-will-it-end-soon-fools-gold

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Your friend is supposedly a product of white supremacist of a former apartheid regime who thinks that blacks can never work in offices but merely on his garden and farm. Even the author does not clearly understand the broad based black economic empowerment policy (BEE). It does not demand particularly to address the employment of black people rather black ownership. It provides that all 100% white owned companies will not be able to do business in SA if they do not relinquish atleast 26% of their shares to black ownership. The onus rest upon them to decide as to who will they freely or sell their shares to. Mostly they offer the shares to one of their long serving black employees who are already experienced about the ins and outs of the company.

Now go and educate that SA friend of yours about what the ANC is hoping to achieve by BEE and not those illusions he is on about.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:57pm On Feb 25, 2015
Chad soldiers claim the lives of over 200 militants all in one day. What a magnificent job attained by the noble and brave soldiers of Mr Idriss Derby. Nigeria beware Chad will sweep you one day.


http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKBN0LT0IT20150225

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:23pm On Feb 25, 2015
FighterPilot:
Chad soldiers claim the lives of over 200 militants all in one day. What a magnificent job attained by the noble and brave soldiers of Mr Idriss Derby. Nigeria beware Chad will sweep you one day.


http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKBN0LT0IT20150225


Show us photo of Boko Haram killed by Chad in that city and the Boko weapons/vehicles they captured.

Nigeria has been proving it's own military achievements with photos and videos including armed drones plus helicopter gunship kills.

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

Chadian air force last week jet bombed and massacred 30 innocent civilians inside Niger Republique at a funeral, even the dead body inside the coffin was killed a second time.

If Chad fights Nigeria, they will actually be bombing their own army while we watch and laugh gringrin

Well, at least Chad has more battle experience than South African military, they stayed behind in C.A.R Bangui after SANDF ran away. Seleka rebels had no courage to attack Chad, but they attacked the weaker South African cowards, Seleka simply ranked SANDF below Chadian ragtag army that has no bullet proof vest gringrin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:32pm On Feb 25, 2015
agaugust:


Show us photo of Boko Haram killed by Chad in that city and the Boko weapons/vehicles they captured.

Nigeria has been proving it's own military achievements with photos and videos including armed drones plus helicopter gunship kills.

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

Chadian air force last week jet bombed and massacred 30 innocent civilians inside Niger Republique at a funeral, even the dead body inside the coffin was killed a second time.

If Chad fights Nigeria, they will actually be bombing their own army while we watch and laugh gringrin

Well, at least Chad has more battle experience than South African military, they stayed behind in C.A.R Bangui after SANDF ran away. Seleka rebels had no courage to attack Chad, but they attacked the weaker South African cowards, Seleka simply ranked SANDF below Chadian ragtag army that has no bullet proof vest gringrin
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Your request is very childish.


My friend we committed massacres in CAR that we were even scared that the international criminal court was upon our heads to hold us accountable.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:36pm On Feb 25, 2015
FighterPilot:


Your request is very childish.

Nope, my request has been granted by other armies, like this....

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

We don't want rumours and propaganda from Chad on this forum, show us proof !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:41pm On Feb 25, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, my request has been granted by other armies, like this....

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

We don't want rumours and propaganda from Chad on this forum, show us proof !
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Evidence cannot as always given in pics. Why do I say this is because when your army is chased around and BH show them in videos, they dismiss it as propaganda. So, how does it become important?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:59pm On Feb 25, 2015
FighterPilot:


Evidence cannot as always given in pics. Why do I say this is because when your army is chased around and BH show them in videos, they dismiss it as propaganda. So, how does it become important?

BH Gwoza video is propaganda because the same faces that acted drama as Nigerian soldiers running from Bokos, were also shown few minutes later in the same video rejoicing with Boko Haram fighters inside their vehicles shouting Allah Akbar !

We Nigerians are intelligent discerners of what evidence or claim is shown to us, but you South Africans are so m.entally under-developed you depend on ANC law to force companies to employ you under BEE for jobs your weak brains cannot handle
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:59pm On Feb 25, 2015
Now I believe BH graphic pictures chasing after Nigerian soldiers like hunters chasing springboks and kudus. None of Nigerian dudes ever attached such videos as proof that their most hailed army was running away from BH because shame was all over their faces.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:06pm On Feb 25, 2015
agaugust:


BH Gwoza video is propaganda because the same faces that acted drama as Nigerian soldiers running from Bokos, were also shown few minutes later in the same video rejoicing with Boko Haram fighters inside their vehicles shouting Allah Akbar !

We Nigerians are intelligent discerners of what evidence or claim is shown to us, but you South Africans are so m.entally under-developed you depend on ANC law to force companies to employ you under BEE for jobs your weak brains cannot handle
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The only person that is mentally sick here is you. Any political party is elected to power based on the promises that it will empower the poor. What is wrong with ANC giving jobs to the previously disadvantaged community? What is wrong if they redress the imbalances of the past. The apartheid government used to treat blacks as slaves and did not even care whether they eat or drink. So, is the anything wrong if the ANC is using redistribution policies to shift the wealth from white to black in order to balance the ratio? ANC does not do it by violence like Mugabe, but rather by affirmative action.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:21pm On Feb 25, 2015
agaugust:


ANC government forces ALL South African companies controlled by white-men to employ black South Africans who have ZERO experience and also ZERO entrepreneural skills into management and board positions under a law called BEE....Black Economic Empowerment, it forces ALL affected South African companies against their wish to employ incompetent and half-brained Soweto retaarded black workers into big positions and pay them fat salaries which has killed the profitability of many South African companies and some have collapsed.

I have a South African man here with me now who tells me all the secrets of your rotten ANC prison yard, you think you can fool us with manipulated internet illustrations?

BEE....Black Economic Empowerment law of ANC government South Africa = Black Employment to jobs they don't qualify for....Employed by force of new ANC law.....in a normal professionally competitive aptitude test like GMAT/GRE and oral interview by HR recruitment experts like Accenture, ALL SOUTH AFRICAN BLACKS WILL FAIL THE STANDARD UNBIASED EMPLOYMENT TEST !

It is called the Fool's Gold tongue tongue tongue

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21576655-black-economic-empowerment-has-not-worked-well-nor-will-it-end-soon-fools-gold

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So one Nigerian says that not enough black south africans are employed by corporate south africa

and another says too many are employed?

Now they are essentially arguing with each other!

FYI Positive Discrimination is in place in the majority of heterogeneous societies in the world.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:24pm On Feb 25, 2015
agaugust:


Show us photo of Boko Haram killed by Chad in that city and the Boko weapons/vehicles they captured.

Nigeria has been proving it's own military achievements with photos and videos including armed drones plus helicopter gunship kills.

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

Chadian air force last week jet bombed and massacred 30 innocent civilians inside Niger Republique at a funeral, even the dead body inside the coffin was killed a second time.

If Chad fights Nigeria, they will actually be bombing their own army while we watch and laugh gringrin

Well, at least Chad has more battle experience than South African military, they stayed behind in C.A.R Bangui after SANDF ran away. Seleka rebels had no courage to attack Chad, but they attacked the weaker South African cowards, Seleka simply ranked SANDF below Chadian ragtag army that has no bullet proof vest gringrin
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Chad has proven to be a better fighting force

They have done what your army cannot inside of your own country

Also, Chad stayed and Seleka did not attack them as Chad was a pro-Seleka player in the region
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/12/chad-troops-car-accused-pro-seleka-bias-201312261218569193.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:24pm On Feb 25, 2015
agaugust:


BH Gwoza video is propaganda because the same faces that acted drama as Nigerian soldiers running from Bokos, were also shown few minutes later in the same video rejoicing with Boko Haram fighters inside their vehicles shouting Allah Akbar !

We Nigerians are intelligent discerners of what evidence or claim is shown to us, but you South Africans are so m.entally under-developed you depend on ANC law to force companies to employ you under BEE for jobs your weak brains cannot handle
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Prove your claims with pictures please

grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:29pm On Feb 25, 2015
TempyPusher:


You have no argument - this is DieVluit.

See what the man below did at Denel.

The report is even fraudulent to begin with. South-Africa only has 10 Rooivalk Helicopters in service, not 12 as the source claims. One Rooivalk helicopter crashed, and another is deployed at a research center.

Secondly, your government forces a fraudulent criminal policy on companies to hire black staffs not based on merit but on a mandatory quota system.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:34pm On Feb 25, 2015
Patchesagain:


Now apologize

Posting fraudulent pictures do not help your argument.

Status: Not Ordered
Category: Missiles

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/weapons/53/mokopa-anti-armour-missile

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:44pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


Secondly, your government forces a fraudulent criminal policy on companies to hire black staffs not based on merit but on a mandatory quota system.


I refer you to the following:

Henry120:


So, in your opinion, it is perfectly okay to disenfranchise 80% of the population.

Spoken like a true "botha".

Congratulations, your blind hate for South Africa has led you to directly contradict your own argument in the space of a few hours.

You need to start taking your meds again.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:44pm On Feb 25, 2015
FighterPilot:


Even if they copied the contents of the blueprint, which by means of security of intellectual property is copyright protected, why would that make you worry? Blueprints of weapons of mass destruction are stolen everytime and the worst some countries hardly recover their blueprint. You cannot blame the SA intelligence because you cannot read the minds of those who are trusted to work with such weapons. If by any means they are being compromised by quick rich or get-rich quick schemes in exchange of selling the blueprint, you would never do anything until the crime is committed. However, I do thank our intelligence for their work well done by recovering those blueprint in time.

The Aljazeera cables show your intelligence agency(SSA) is very weak and incompetent. The mossad has completely infiltrated your security architecture.

The cables show you are a western lackey, the SSA is a western "slave" Agency with using South-Africa as the next frontier for espionage.

The brits, Israelis, Americans and senegalese have infiltrated your country and are operating with impunity.


When I told you guys that South-Africa was a know black market for arms transactions you guys were up in arms.

It beggars belief to even begin to bear the thought of how much the Nigerian intelligence Agency has infiltrated your country.

For the sake of everybody, your SSA needs a complete and total overhaul.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:46pm On Feb 25, 2015
Patchesagain:


I refer you to the following:



Congratulations, your blind hate for South Africa has led you to directly contradict your own argument in the space of a few hours.

You need to start taking your meds again.


You are dumb!

South-African companies =\= south-african defence industry.

All the defence companies are white owned and run.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:46pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


Posting fraudulent pictures do not help your argument.

Status: Not Ordered
Category: Missiles

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/weapons/53/mokopa-anti-armour-missile

How are they fraudulent?

South Africa is a fairly unique status. Unlike most countries, our main arms manufacturer is state-owned, meaning that we dont need to stockpile products we dont have a need for... as we manufacture them ourselves. Its in service but not in stock - if SAAF needs them its simply a matter of a delivery truck driving 30min down the road, full integration and acquisition is not essential at the moment.

And you allways demand pictures - I have provided them, Rooivalk firing Mokopa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:48pm On Feb 25, 2015
Patchesagain:


How are they fraudulent?

South Africa is a fairly unique status. Unlike most countries, our main arms manufacturer is state-owned, meaning that we dont need to stockpile products we dont have a need for... as we manufacture them ourselves. Its in service but not in stock - if SAAF needs them its simply a matter of a delivery truck driving 30min down the road, full integration and acquisition is not essential at the moment.

And you allways demand pictures - I have provided them, Rooivalk firing Mokopa.

Hold it there.

You don't have them because you can't afford them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:51pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


The Aljazeera cables show your intelligence agency(SSA) is very weak and incompetent. The mossad has completely infiltrated your security architecture.

The cables show you are a western lackey, the SSA is a western "slave" Agency with using South-Africa as the next frontier for espionage.

The brits, Israelis, Americans and senegalese have infiltrated your country and are operating with impunity.


When I told you guys that South-Africa was a know black market for arms transactions you guys were up in arms.

It beggars belief to even begin to bear the thought of how much the Nigerian intelligence Agency has infiltrated your country.

For the sake of everybody, your SSA needs a complete and total overhaul.

Cables show the complete opposit, they show:

1. SSA/SASS was able to thwart an operation by one of the most effective Intelligence agencies in the world (and capture and agent)
2. SSA/SASS is an invaluable asset to Western Intelligence Agencies whom rely heavily on it for information pertaining to the African continent - with near constant requests for assistance. SSA is also a key player in maintaining surveillance on Irans actions in the African continent and thwarting Iranian plans to acquire WMD's.
3. No proof for South Africa being a black market of any sorts
4. Last time Nigerian Intelligence services tried to infiltrate South Africa they got caught by lowly Customs Officials - so any real infiltration is utterly hilarious, unless you mean your spys have infiltrated our police holding cells, because then you are 100% correct grin

Conclusion: SSA is one of the most effective spy agencies in Africa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:52pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


Hold it there.

You don't have them because you can't afford them.

We dont have them because we dont need to buy them and we dont need to buy them or stockpile them as we build them and the company that builds them belongs to South Africa

I would not expect you to understand the workings of a Nation that has an advanced military industrial complex, you come from such a dreadfull background... stick to slavering over your knock-off Chinese AK's
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:07pm On Feb 25, 2015
Patchesagain:


Cables show the complete opposit, they show:

1. SSA/SASS was able to thwart an operation by one of the most effective Intelligence agencies in the world (and capture and agent)
2. SSA/SASS is an invaluable asset to Western Intelligence Agencies whom rely heavily on it for information pertaining to the African continent - with near constant requests for assistance. SSA is also a key player in maintaining surveillance on Irans actions in the African continent and thwarting Iranian plans to acquire WMD's.
3. No proof for South Africa being a black market of any sorts
4. Last time Nigerian Intelligence services tried to infiltrate South Africa they got caught by lowly Customs Officials - so any real infiltration is utterly hilarious, unless you mean your spys have infiltrated our police holding cells, because then you are 100% correct grin

Conclusion: SSA is one of the most effective spy agencies in Africa.


Spy Cables expose S Africa's alarming security failings
Secret documents reveal an array of security lapses and flaws within South African government and intelligence.
Will Jordan | 24 Feb 2015 18:39 GMT | Spy Cables, South Africa
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South African government and security agencies have left secrets exposed at every level and foreign spies have access to all areas of government, according to Intelligence documents obtained by Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit.
A secret security assessment by South African intelligence says foreign espionage is booming, with more than 140 foreign spies estimated to be operating in South Africa - and that the South African state is doing a poor job of protecting itself.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/spy-cables-expose-south-africa-alarming-security-failings-guardian-ssa-150224162919994.html



Yeah, it's funny........ keep laughing, while 140 spy agencies have un-restricted access to the government of south-africa at all levels.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:20pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:



Spy Cables expose S Africa's alarming security failings
Secret documents reveal an array of security lapses and flaws within South African government and intelligence.
Will Jordan | 24 Feb 2015 18:39 GMT | Spy Cables, South Africa
 658  202



South African government and security agencies have left secrets exposed at every level and foreign spies have access to all areas of government, according to Intelligence documents obtained by Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit.
A secret security assessment by South African intelligence says foreign espionage is booming, with more than 140 foreign spies estimated to be operating in South Africa - and that the South African state is doing a poor job of protecting itself.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/spy-cables-expose-south-africa-alarming-security-failings-guardian-ssa-150224162919994.html



Yeah, it's funny........ keep laughing, while 140 spy agencies have un-restricted access to the government of south-africa at all levels.


Better than being beaten by rag tag BH spies.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:22pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


Hold it there.

You don't have them because you can't afford them.

We simply cannot afford our own property.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:24pm On Feb 25, 2015
Henry120:


The report is even fraudulent to begin with. South-Africa only has 10 Rooivalk Helicopters in service, not 12 as the source claims. One Rooivalk helicopter crashed, and another is deployed at a research center.

Secondly, your government forces a fraudulent criminal policy on companies to hire black staffs not based on merit but on a mandatory quota system.


It crashed and was repaired dummy. SANDF has 11 Rooivalk gunships.



http://www.defenceweb.co.za/office/denelcorporate/PressRelease.php?StoryID=239031
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:27pm On Feb 25, 2015
Msauza:



Better than being beaten by rag tag BH spies.

Nigerian army and air force is d.emolishing Boko Haram like no man business today as we speak this very moment...

http://www.newsfetchers.com/2015/02/photos-nigerian-military-kill-300-boko.html

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