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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by Nobody: 10:26am On Feb 28, 2015
freeboy604:
This is another issue why I appreciate President Jonathan, he said in Lagos that, its better to put machinery on ground to make sure people don't have the opportunity to commit in the first instance, which I believe is better, not when somebody has already stolen we begins going to court.

just listen to yourself.
it is better to put OR i have put

i doubt if you even know your own age
how old are you?

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by chronique(m): 10:29am On Feb 28, 2015
Did you read what you just typed? Are you sure you read the article? If you read the article,and still typed this nonsense,then you should be ashamed of yourself.
Ralphlauren:
Lies!

They should give a breakdown of how the £14m was spent and where the money came from.

The United Kingdom was the government that secured Ibori's conviction (he broke UK's AML &BC laws) and he is currently being jailed at the expense of UK taxpayers like myself, so I don't understand how EFCC would have spent £14m to "convict" Ibori. Bunch of liars!

If they claim to have spent that much, then how much did UK's government spend to secure the conviction of Ibori, his lawyer (who helped in concealing the funds), his wife and his mistress? undecided

I expect Ibori to be tried and convicted by a competent court in Nigeria and then sent to a Nigerian prison for Bribery, Corruption and Money Laundering. Only then can EFCC boast of spending any money on his "conviction". angry

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by Ademat7(m): 10:30am On Feb 28, 2015
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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by motherlode: 10:30am On Feb 28, 2015
okay!
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by Bsc(m): 10:31am On Feb 28, 2015
freeboy604:
This is another issue why I appreciate President Jonathan, he said in Lagos that, its better to put machinery on ground to make sure people don't have the opportunity to commit in the first instance, which I believe is better, not when somebody has already stolen we begins going to court.
Am sorry but u seem clueless like GEJ....using technology to fight corruption.
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by Nobody: 10:32am On Feb 28, 2015
Ralphlauren:
Lies!

They should give a breakdown of how the £14m was spent and where the money came from.

The United Kingdom was the government that secured Ibori's conviction (he broke UK's AML &BC laws) and he is currently being jailed at the expense of UK taxpayers like myself, so I don't understand how EFCC would have spent £14m to "convict" Ibori. Bunch of liars!

If they claim to have spent that much, then how much did UK's government spend to secure the conviction of Ibori, his lawyer (who helped in concealing the funds), his wife and his mistress? undecided

I expect Ibori to be tried and convicted by a competent court in Nigeria and then sent to a Nigerian prison for Bribery, Corruption and Money Laundering. Only then can EFCC boast of spending any money on his "conviction". angry


Read! Read!! Read!!! befor you make comment. Abi you just come back from Night jab, your eye never clear.

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by akpumping7720(m): 10:32am On Feb 28, 2015
Ok...... what most of us don't know is that James Ibori was GEJ's number one enemy. Why do u think dat GEJ grants Alamesigha pardon? It was purely because he helped GEJ to d level he is now. But what could be said of Ibori? Ibori hates GEJ with passion that whenever they meet at FEC's meeting, he looks down on GEJ and makes GEJ look inferior. Even Ibori was the major sponspor of late Yardua's campaign, that was why he was discharged in Nigerian court of law. Ibori even kicked against Jonathan becoming president when Yardua died. He hate GEJ with passion and when GEJ eventually became d president, he asked d Attorney General to cooperate with the UK government to make sure that Ibori was apprehended so that he can pay Ibori back in his own coin. If we all observed clearly, we will notice that the attorney general was functioning and flexing muscle during this period....
The moral of this is that, don't look down on any man today, he might be your saviour tomorrow!
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by OLADD: 10:40am On Feb 28, 2015
freeboy604:
This is another issue why I appreciate President Jonathan, he said in Lagos that, its better to put machinery on ground to make sure people don't have the opportunity to commit in the first instance, which I believe is better, not when somebody has already stolen we begins going to court.

Good point, you are absolutely right. The situation is complicated by corrupt advocates and judges who compromise the ethics of their profession.
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by rusher14: 10:40am On Feb 28, 2015
datguru:
14 MILLION POUND!



How much did the man steal.


£100 Billion pounds ?

Stole.

A president with a doctorate degree cannot be wrong.
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by redcliff: 10:44am On Feb 28, 2015
datguru:
14 MILLION POUND!



How much did the man steal.


£100 Billion pounds ?

Ask me o.. this government and proflogacy are one and the same
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by VcStunner(m): 10:45am On Feb 28, 2015
SuperModerator:
I still find it hard to understand this article
nah... Its quite above ur pay grade son!.... Thing is when a Ph.D does certain things u just need to stay put and watch from d background, just be patient dats all. What u don't know is bigger than you, cuz all dey let u read and see are merely headlines. Next time u make it to church, thank God for Jonathan and go home. smiley
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by Nobody: 10:47am On Feb 28, 2015
akpumping7720:
Ok...... what most of us don't know is that James Ibori was GEJ's number one enemy. Why do u think dat GEJ grants Alamesigha pardon? It was purely because he helped GEJ to d level he is now. But what could be said of Ibori? Ibori hates GEJ with passion that whenever they meet at FEC's meeting, he looks down on GEJ and makes GEJ look inferior. Even Ibori was the major sponspor of late Yardua's campaign, that was why he was discharged in Nigerian court of law. Ibori even kicked against Jonathan becoming president when Yardua died. He hate GEJ with passion and when GEJ eventually became d president, he asked d Attorney General to cooperate with the UK government to make sure that Ibori was apprehended so that he can pay Ibori back in his own coin. If we all observed clearly, we will notice that the attorney general was functioning and flexing muscle during this period....
The moral of this is that, don't look down on any man today, he might be your saviour tomorrow!


That is the moral of your story!!!??
Really??
lipsrsealed
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by redcliff: 10:57am On Feb 28, 2015
freeboy604:
This is another issue why I appreciate President Jonathan, he said in Lagos that, its better to put machinery on ground to make sure people don't have the opportunity to commit in the first instance, which I believe is better, not when somebody has already stolen we begins going to court.

Wow.. i did not believe any otherperson can be thinking like jonathan in nigeria too.. smh
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by mojounited(m): 10:58am On Feb 28, 2015
Ralphlauren:
Lies!

They should give a breakdown of how the £14m was spent and where the money came from.

The United Kingdom was the government that secured Ibori's conviction (he broke UK's AML &BC laws) and he is currently being jailed at the expense of UK taxpayers like myself, so I don't understand how EFCC would have spent £14m to "convict" Ibori. Bunch of liars!

If they claim to have spent that much, then how much did UK's government spend to secure the conviction of Ibori, his lawyer (who helped in concealing the funds), his wife and his mistress? undecided

I expect Ibori to be tried and convicted by a competent court in Nigeria and then sent to a Nigerian prison for Bribery, Corruption and Money Laundering. Only then can EFCC boast of spending any money on his "conviction". angry

But Lar said the Ibori case was prosecuted at no cost to the Federal Government.

He saw no need to amend the enabling laws of the Independent Corrupt Practices and other related offences Commission (ICPC), the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), and the National Drug Law Enforcement Agency (NDLEA) so they could receive funding directly from the Federation Account.

Lar said: “ the conviction was secured with very limited or no funds.

Duh! I guess you didn't bother to peruse the article. You just saw the title of the thread and pounced on your keyboard undecided
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by akpumping7720(m): 10:59am On Feb 28, 2015
milychocs:



That is the moral of your story!!!??
Really??
lipsrsealed
Yes! U want to add to it?
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by shift15(m): 11:00am On Feb 28, 2015
Ralphlauren:
Lies!

They should give a breakdown of how the £14m was spent and where the money came from.

The United Kingdom was the government that secured Ibori's conviction (he broke UK's AML &BC laws) and he is currently being jailed at the expense of UK taxpayers like myself, so I don't understand how EFCC would have spent £14m to "convict" Ibori. Bunch of liars!

If they claim to have spent that much, then how much did UK's government spend to secure the conviction of Ibori, his lawyer (who helped in concealing the funds), his wife and his mistress? undecided

I expect Ibori to be tried and convicted by a competent court in Nigeria and then sent to a Nigerian prison for Bribery, Corruption and Money Laundering. Only then can EFCC boast of spending any money on his "conviction". angry


Get someone to read and explain the article to you in the language you understand. It seems your comprehension is questionable.

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by theoctopus: 11:01am On Feb 28, 2015
Ralphlauren:
Lies!

They should give a breakdown of how the £14m was spent and where the money came from.

The United Kingdom was the government that secured Ibori's conviction (he broke UK's AML &BC laws) and he is currently being jailed at the expense of UK taxpayers like myself, so I don't understand how EFCC would have spent £14m to "convict" Ibori. Bunch of liars!

If they claim to have spent that much, then how much did UK's government spend to secure the conviction of Ibori, his lawyer (who helped in concealing the funds), his wife and his mistress? undecided

I expect Ibori to be tried and convicted by a competent court in Nigeria and then sent to a Nigerian prison for Bribery, Corruption and Money Laundering. Only then can EFCC boast of spending any money on his "conviction". angry


Why are many of you so ignorant? Didnt you read the part that said the money did not come from the FG? He is just telling you how much it cost to prosecute him in the UK and he is right. Go check the cost of prosecuting criminals in Europe and in the UK. You can use google. It cost a lot of money to prosecute cases in democracy. The estimated cost of prosecuting the Guantanmo bay detainees in New York was so enormous that Obama had to shelve the idea. Education is key. Dont be like Buhari

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by Durchmann(m): 11:15am On Feb 28, 2015
When I see comments made on Nairaland, I marvel at the level of ignorance pervading the land.

Justice is never cheap in any part of the world and that's the part that Nigerians cannot phantom. Just go to your local Police Division and study how the Police works when it comes to investigating crimes. Just like every organisation in the world, you need resources to run your operations. When you counter the fact that the services rendered by the judicial system in this country are heavily subsided, how then will justice be dispensed easily.

It's therefore common practice in civilised climes that illegal funds apprehended and confiscated by the law have some percentage of them assigned to law enforcement agencies in order for these agencies to dispense law and order as well as promoting justice easily with less disturbance from financing.

Whether we like it or not, it's best we begin to understand that justice isn't cheap. That's why it's far cheaper to prevent crime than to bring criminals to justice.

We are worse off with the fact that common infrastructure are lacking. Isn't it better to continue deploying and developing infrastructure that will lead to crime prevention and reduced loss of funds than throwing huge monies to get justice dispensed?

The truth is that nobody tells you how much is spent in dispensing justice in this country but it's easy for you to see how some $20b was siphoned from NNPC.

That's why I support deploying necessary initiatives and infrastructures that will reduce the crime rate drastically than focusing on prosecuting criminals which will siphon so much tax payers money on just getting a punitive action.

We are in dire times now. Nigeria's revenue is dropping with the oil price crashes. Every means to save funds for better utilisation is highly welcome.

Nigerians, please use your education and brains for once in this electoral season.

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by Pamcrest(f): 11:21am On Feb 28, 2015
shocked I don't believe this report. £14m on what...where's d breakdown?
I do agree that d enforcement agencies should take a percentage of d loot recovered to cover d costs of prosecution but even that must have a limit. It should not be an avenue to steal from d loot.
My humble submission
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by sylve11: 11:24am On Feb 28, 2015
hmmmm cool
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by Image123(m): 11:25am On Feb 28, 2015
They should try TAN. We'd like to know who and how TAN is being funded. The nuisance they are constituting should not run on our collective wealth and tax payers money. Nigerians need to be gainfully employed and not coerced or deceived into being political tools whose pittance depends solely on the re-election of President Jonathan.
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by callmenow: 11:37am On Feb 28, 2015
SuperModerator:
I still find it hard to understand this article

The article said that UK government spent £14 million (pounds), equivalent to #4.5 billion Naira to secure the conviction of Ibori in London. Essentially, it is expensive to secure conviction within the rule of law (or going through the courts). That it did not cost Nigeria as much as UK to convict Ibori. In other words, the money used to secure Ibori is the money required to maintain all the anti corruption agency over ten years. Glad to help
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by lovat(m): 11:44am On Feb 28, 2015
Ralphlauren:
Lies!

They should give a breakdown of how the £14m was spent and where the money came from.

The United Kingdom was the government that secured Ibori's conviction (he broke UK's AML &BC laws) and he is currently being jailed at the expense of UK taxpayers like myself, so I don't understand how EFCC would have spent £14m to "convict" Ibori. Bunch of liars!

If they claim to have spent that much, then how much did UK's government spend to secure the conviction of Ibori, his lawyer (who helped in concealing the funds), his wife and his mistress? undecided

I expect Ibori to be tried and convicted by a competent court in Nigeria and then sent to a Nigerian prison for Bribery, Corruption and Money Laundering. Only then can EFCC boast of spending any money on his "conviction". angry

**modified**
So apparently he brought up the money spent on Ibori's conviction by the UK government to justify the budget for EFCC? What's the bloody sense in that? Bloody f00ls.

It's obvious they are looking for justification so as to get a fat budget which we all know will end in private bank accounts.
kai, did you read the article? Who do you this thing

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by hensben(m): 11:48am On Feb 28, 2015
rusher14:


Stole.

A president with a doctorate degree cannot be wrong.
He is right..its steal not stole since he used 'did' in his sentence or rather statement...thank you.
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by rusher14: 11:51am On Feb 28, 2015
hensben:
He is right..its steal not stole since he used 'did' in his sentence or rather statement...thank you.
Are you saying the president was right?
Or that you don't understand sarcasm?
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by hensben(m): 11:54am On Feb 28, 2015
theoctopus:


Why are many of you so ignorant? Didnt you read the part that said the money did not come from the FG? He is just telling you how much it cost to prosecute him in the UK and he is right. Go check the cost of prosecuting criminals in Europe and in the UK. You can use google. It cost a lot of money to prosecute cases in democracy. The estimated cost of prosecuting the Guantanmo bay detainees in New York was so enormous that Obama had to shelve the idea. Education is key. Dont be like Buhari
Should we now allow politicians to steal our common wealth because the cost to prosecute them is high....oga discipline is the key which Buhari stand for and I agree with him...if there is discipline among the political elite, stealing of public fund will be on decrease which will enable the government to deal with the few looters unlike what we are experiencing under GEJ..what do you expect gej to do when he is part of the looting...remember, stealing is not corruption and how much did nwobodo stole.
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by hensben(m): 11:56am On Feb 28, 2015
rusher14:

Are you saying the president was right?
Or that you don't understand sarcasm?
Sorry I nor quick catch ur last statement..u bad oo grin grin

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by esere826: 11:57am On Feb 28, 2015
akpumping7720:
Ok...... what most of us don't know is that James Ibori was GEJ's number one enemy. Why do u think dat GEJ grants Alamesigha pardon? It was purely because he helped GEJ to d level he is now. But what could be said of Ibori? Ibori hates GEJ with passion that whenever they meet at FEC's meeting, he looks down on GEJ and makes GEJ look inferior. Even Ibori was the major sponspor of late Yardua's campaign, that was why he was discharged in Nigerian court of law. Ibori even kicked against Jonathan becoming president when Yardua died. He hate GEJ with passion and when GEJ eventually became d president, he asked d Attorney General to cooperate with the UK government to make sure that Ibori was apprehended so that he can pay Ibori back in his own coin. If we all observed clearly, we will notice that the attorney general was functioning and flexing muscle during this period....
The moral of this is that, don't look down on any man today, he might be your saviour tomorrow!

wrong
the moral of your story is that if Ibori were still around, he probably would have been one of the chief sponsors of APC against his enemy Jonathan
while screaming CHANGE!
Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by rusher14: 11:59am On Feb 28, 2015
hensben:
Sorry I nor quick catch ur last statement..u bad oo grin grin
grin

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Re: Ibori’s Conviction Gulped £14m, Says Senate by esere826: 12:01pm On Feb 28, 2015
callmenow:


The article said that UK government spent £14 million (pounds), equivalent to #4.5 billion Naira to secure the conviction of Ibori in London. Essentially, it is expensive to secure conviction within the rule of law (or going through the courts). That it did not cost Nigeria as much as UK to convict Ibori. In other words, the money used to secure Ibori is the money required to maintain all the anti corruption agency over ten years. Glad to help

and guess what!
the foolish senator seems not to be aware that the money was deducted from those recovered from Ibori
...in other words, UK used Nigerian money to provide jobs for UK people to prosecute a Nigerian

whereas our silly EFCC is happy to post selfies showing how they returned all monies siezed from Yahoo boys back to foreign senders
and then they go cap in hand to the the government asking for more funding

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