dejilg:
from this ur reply I now know dat u don't even know wat Trinitarianism is about. If u dnt know the difference between "a person" and "a human being", den how can u grasp it wen the trinity uses the words "Person" and "Being" to summarize the so so Scriptural doctrine of the ONE Being of God shared by three co equal, eternal and powerful Persons?

Empiree:
Simple, isn't? Those fellows who believe in trinity or that Jesus is God are polytheists. Aren't they reading the same Bible.

Bobbysworld28:

The last time I checked, u could not defend ur murderous prophet. U r even less competent here, so buzz offf. Lol!

Empiree:
Exist strategy. I got you.

CANTICLES:


Instead of you to think deep about his questions, you are busy defending what u dont understand... Infact Answer This:

1) If The Trinity doctrine is true, and they are truly one, WHAT HAPPEN TO THE Father and holyspirit, WHEN the son died for three days ?? Did they also die ??

If they are truly one , why didnt the Father and holyspirit also dead ?




... next

Bobbysworld28:

Exit for u. I aint going nowhere. My christian brethren and I r having exegesis. It has nothing to do with Muhammed (pbuh)

Empiree:
And I am my muslim brethren too have exegesis. And it has nothing to do with Paul, Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. Our exegesis however has everythig to do with Jesus the son of Mary

Bobbysworld28:

Wow. The son of Mary or the Lord of all?

Empiree:
Quran:
2:87 "We gave Jesus the SON OF MARY clear (signs) and strengthened him with holy spirit

2:253 "....To Jesus the SON OF MARY......

3:45 "O Mary! Allah gave you glad tidings of a word from Him; his name will be chrst Jesus, the SON OF MARY....

4:157 "That they said (in boost), "we killed Jesus the SON OF MARY, the MESSANGER of Allah...."

4:171 ".....Christ Jesus the SON OF MARY was no more than messanger of God...."

5:17 "In blashemy indeed are those who say that God is Jesus the SON OF MARY.

5:46 "And in their footsteps, We sent Jesus the SON OF MARY confirming the Law that was revealed before him

5:72 "They do blashemy who say: 'God is christ the SON OF MARY. "But christ said Oh Israel worship your Lord and my Lord..."

5:75 "Christ Jesus the SON OF MARY was no more than messanger of Allah

5:78 "Curses was prounuced on those who reject Faith among the children of Israel by David and Jesus the SON OF MARY because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses"

5:110 "O Jesus the SON OF MARY! Recount My favor to you and your mother..."

5:112 Behold! the disciples said: " O Jesus the SON OF MARY! can thy Lord send down table set (with viands)....'

5:114 "Jesus the SON OF MARY said: "O Allah our lord..."

These should be enough. Keep reading from the link and THINK !
http://jaq.org/blog/2009/10/10/all-passages-about-jesus-in-the-quran/

dolphinheart:
@ empiree , why are you here? You dnt believe in the scriptures (bible) and the jesus u know is different from the jesus being discussed here. So pls dnt bring the koran into this ( enough killing done by that book already, and we dnt want that here) .

Now to trinitarians ill like as ask the questions
What is the trinity .?
. Is jesus the father?
Are they the same?

Is 1 john 5:7 saying jesus, father and holy spirit bear witness in heaven part of the original manuscripts?

Empiree:
Did Op complain?. No. You are talking about my prophet, Jesus the son of Mary, the messanger of God. So it concerns me. You hear?. I will only respect 1 thing, and that's if Op says he doesnt need my contributions. Clear?

Empiree:
Did Op complain?. No. You are talking about my prophet, Jesus the son of Mary, the messanger of God. So it concerns me. You hear?. I will only respect 1 thing, and that's if Op says he doesnt need my contributions. Clear?

Bobbysworld28:
In one of ur posts, u mentioned dt one can get info abt his/her pvc by text message.Kindly tell me how. I am interested

Empiree:
Simple, isn't? Those fellows who believe in trinity or that Jesus is God are polytheists. Aren't they reading the same Bible.

dejilg:
that makes me wonder, cos I just see u ignore all d texts of the Bible that says Jesus is God and identifies Him as YHWH

CANTICLES:


Instead of you to think deep about his questions, you are busy defending what u dont understand... Infact Answer This:

1) If The Trinity doctrine is true, and they are truly one, WHAT HAPPEN TO THE Father and holyspirit, WHEN the son died for three days ?? Did they also die ??

If they are truly one , why didnt the Father and holyspirit also dead ?




... next

Empiree:
Empty post. All you have to do is proof "Jesus is God". Enough of this empty post. But before you defend it, let me quickly remind you there are many other Christians who defer from your creed

CAPTIVATOR:
I Could now go through all the Scriptures
that support the doctrine of the trinity,
however, there is a problem --THERE ARE
NO SUCH SCRIPTURES!

So let’s do something else. Let’s look at a
few Scriptures that Trinitarians claim add
credence to their theory. I will take no
more than a few pages to try and clarify
the Scriptural teaching on who, what, and
how many Gods there really are.

First of all we must dispense with I John
5:7 which reads in the King James Version
"For there are three that bear record
In heaven, the Father, the Word, and
The Holy Ghost : and these three are
one."
There is a problem with this verse. The
words that I typed in bold print are not
Scripture. They should NOT be in the
Bible. There are many Bibles that do not
contain these words. Here are a few:

The Concordant Literal New
Testament: "...seeing that three there
are that are testifying, the spirit, and
the water, and the blood, and the
three are for the one thing."

New World Translation of the Holy
Scriptures: "For there are three
witness bearers, the spirit and the
water and the blood, and the three
are in agreement."

A New Translation by James Moffatt:
"The witnesses are three, the Spirit
and the water and the blood, and the
three of them are in accord."
The Emphatic Diaglott: "For there are
three which testify; the Spirit, and the
water, and the blood; and the three
are of one."

The Emphatic Diaglott has a footnote:
"This text concerning the heavenly
witnesses [as found in some
versions] is NOT contained in ANY
Greek manuscript which was written
earlier than the 15th century. It is not
cited by ANY of the Greek
ecclesiastical writers; nor by ANY of
the early Latin fathers..."

The Holy Bible--New Catholic
Version: "For there are three that
bear witness [in heaven: the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and
these three are one. And there are
three that bear witness on earth]: the
Spirit, and the water, and the blood;
and these three are one."
The brackets are supplied by the
translators. This version also has a
footnote:

"According to the evidence of many
manuscripts, and the majority of
commentators, these verses should
read: ‘For there are three that bear
witness: the Spirit, and the water, and
the blood; and these three are one.’
The Holy See reserves to itself the
right to pass finally on the origin of
the present reading."

The New Testament from 26 Translations:
Footnote, page 1183:
"The words between ‘bear
record’ (verse 7) and ‘the
spirit’ (verse 8 ) are now recognized
as not adequately supported by
original manuscripts."

As those words were hand written in a
copy of a manuscript as late as the 15th
century and do not appear in ANY Greek
manuscript, they have no place in the
inspired Word of God.

http://bible-truths.com/

Empiree:
Quran:
2:87 "We gave Jesus the SON OF MARY clear (signs) and strengthened him with holy spirit

2:253 "....To Jesus the SON OF MARY......

3:45 "O Mary! Allah gave you glad tidings of a word from Him; his name will be chrst Jesus, the SON OF MARY....

4:157 "That they said (in boost), "we killed Jesus the SON OF MARY, the MESSANGER of Allah...."

4:171 ".....Christ Jesus the SON OF MARY was no more than messanger of God...."

5:17 "In blashemy indeed are those who say that God is Jesus the SON OF MARY.

5:46 "And in their footsteps, We sent Jesus the SON OF MARY confirming the Law that was revealed before him

5:72 "They do blashemy who say: 'God is christ the SON OF MARY. "But christ said Oh Israel worship your Lord and my Lord..."

5:75 "Christ Jesus the SON OF MARY was no more than messanger of Allah

5:78 "Curses was prounuced on those who reject Faith among the children of Israel by David and Jesus the SON OF MARY because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses"

5:110 "O Jesus the SON OF MARY! Recount My favor to you and your mother..."

5:112 Behold! the disciples said: " O Jesus the SON OF MARY! can thy Lord send down table set (with viands)....'

5:114 "Jesus the SON OF MARY said: "O Allah our lord..."

These should be enough. Keep reading from the link and THINK !
http://jaq.org/blog/2009/10/10/all-passages-about-jesus-in-the-quran/

dejilg:
if mine z empty, den urs z emptier cos even many muslims have creeds dat differ from urs!...I dnt need to prove to u dat "Jesus is God", I guess u read d Bible? what happened to d "prologue of John"

Empiree:
Man, you not defending anything. You just talking basically. If you cant defend it then....check your creed. And you talk about John, you mean the last of of the Gospel?. So according to you he's the only one that explained "Divinity of Jesus" yet copied his essay from Mathew, Mark anf Luke. Pls take a back sit.

No, muslims have same creed when it comes to Divinity of God. No muslim believe any prophet or messanger is God. Get your fact right.

Empiree:
Man, you not defending anything. You just talking basically. If you cant defend it then....check your creed. And you talk about John, you mean the last of of the Gospel?. So according to you he's the only one that explained "Divinity of Jesus" yet copied his essay from Mathew, Mark anf Luke. Pls take a back sit.

No, muslims have same creed when it comes to Divinity of God. No muslim believe any prophet or messanger is God. Get your fact right.

Papist:

Who is "We" in your first verse?

dejilg:


Now u keep running from facts! so now u have a problem becos "its d last of the Gospels"? and whom said its d only 1 dat teaches abt Jesus being God do u ever reason and actually interact honestly with those dat don't accept ur view? so do u now agree that John teaches that Jesus is God or u'd dismiss like dis "its d last of the Gospels, so its nt authentic"....lolzzz, are u kidding me? Divinity of God --- is dat supposed to make sense Since we ddnt argue abt God's Divinity but God's nature, and u know well dat muslims differ on dt views, so dnt even try lying abt it...i guess u'd hv to alight now ryt?

Empiree:
"We" is NOT plural. It's a form of majesty, respect etc. "We" in the Quran is royal "We". It's basically a form of adjective. Read these short links for further understanding.
http://www.godallah.com/we_and_he.php
http://www.islam101.com/tauheed/AllahWE.htm

Bobbysworld28:

John copied from who? Pls dont go about advertising ur ignorance like this. It is shameful that ur mentor is a disaster to mankind.

1jn1.1-2.kjv That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us

Does d above look like someone who copied from others? Evn his writing style is different.
I tire for u o!

Empiree:
Now your case is dismissed with. You dont make any sense. If you can't defend why Jesus is God then forget it.

dejilg:


superlies, are we posting sites now? should I post in replies to these?

Empiree:
https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/1#2172133.47