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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:13pm On Mar 02, 2015
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that what you Southies like to ram down our throats about Denel will this and Denel may that?

You are wrong, so consider yourself corrected. We never say "might".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:13pm On Mar 02, 2015
rka1:


We are now on Shekau the 3rd who will soon follow his predessesors.

Bwahaha! All you have done is confirm that Shekau is not dead.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 1:30pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:


You are wrong, so consider yourself corrected. We never say "might".

Yes you do. As well as fibbing. grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 1:32pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:


Bwahaha! All you have done is confirm that Shekau is not dead.

Don't blame me if you can't understand that the name Shekau is a generic name used by whoever is leading Bh.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 1:39pm On Mar 02, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
Shut up whiteboy i dont care...fukk you, your language and your ugly family, you aren't African and you never will be.

lol....Nigerians
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:49pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


Please explain how the design is obsolete. I dare you. Tell us what design elements Rooivalk has that are "obsolete". And i presume these same design elements WILL NOT be found in any Nigerian helicopters. Be a man....explain yourself....i dare you.

Dare me for what? Are you blind and illiterate? The ugly and super ugly Rooivalk helicopter design is about 20 years old, the final production design is both ugly and very obsolete by modern standards. Look at the tyres-landing gear, nobody in his right senses will design combat helicopter landing gear like that today.

Nigeria has latest version of Russian Mi-35 Hind E with latest 2014 avionics, not the old ones in your Rooivalk, NAF flies same combat helicopters with Russia`s mighty air force.

Stop fvcking yourself dude, the SAAF Rooivalk wasted too much time on design table and by the time it entered service, the airframe design has become obsolete... compare the Rooivalk and Hind....Ya fvcking Rooivalk design iz fvcking obsoletz nobody`s gonna buy it tongue tongue

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:55pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:


Wait, what nigerian helicopters?

NAF Mi-35M Hind E 2014 model, the latest in Russian air force. Get it ?

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:56pm On Mar 02, 2015
Msauza:


NAF is a dead man walking. No forth generation fighters nothing.

NAF flew 5,390 combat sorties in less than one year, dead air forces or dead men don`t fly aircraft !

NAF JF-17 Thunder 4th generation jet fighter is on the way....25 to 40 units
.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:05pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Dare me for what? Are you blind and illiterate? The ugly and super ugly Rooivalk helicopter design is about 20 years old, the final production design is both ugly and very obsolete by modern standards. Look at the tyres-landing gear, nobody in his right senses will design combat helicopter landing gear like that today.

Nigeria has latest version of Russian Mi-35 Hind E with latest 2014 avionics, not the old ones in your Rooivalk, NAF flies same combat helicopters with Russia`s mighty air force.

Stop fvcking yourself dude, the SAAF Rooivalk wasted too much time on design table and by the time it entered service, the airframe design has become obsolete... compare the Rooivalk and Hind....Ya fvcking Rooivalk design iz fvcking obsoletz nobody`s gonna buy it tongue tongue

So its obsolete because it is ugly? How old are you? 12?

Wheels are designed like that so that it can operate out of the bush - its an advantage over all other attack helo's, and what is wrong with landing gear like that?

How are the avionics in the Rooivalk obsolete or ineferio to the M-35?

Rooivalk airframe is too old? You do realize that the Hind airframe first flew in 1969

You said you would show us how it is obsolete... please do, we are waiting

Also, you dont operate the same helo as the russian airfroce, you operate the export monkey model version
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:08pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


NAF Mi-35M Hind E 2014 model, the latest in Russian air force. Get it ?

How is it better than the Rooivalk?

Despite the Hind being a bigger target, having worse performance stats, less maueverable, unable to hover in combat, no crew redundancy, carrying less munitions, harder to work on, having an older air-frame, notoriously terrible russian engines with a short life-span, shocking ergonomics, no helmet mounted displays, no helmet slaved weapons... its better? lol, ok.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:08pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:



NAF JF-17 Thunder 4th generation jet fighter is on the way....25 to 40 units
.

Show us the money for the JF-17!!

#YourOwnArgumentKillsYou
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:12pm On Mar 02, 2015
Patchesagain:


How is it better than the Rooivalk?

Despite being a bigger target, having worse performance stats and carrying less munitions

Even the UN thinks the rooivalk is better and Ukraine is plaining on joining the list of countries that want the Hines to be upgraded with south African systems developed for rooivalk.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:15pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:


The art of spin doctoring: call crying for help "ordering".

Yet, Chad freed towns inside Nigeria's borders.

One town Gamboru, that`s where Chad captured, an empty village with no civilians inside it, and the operation ended in a disater for the incompetent Chadian army of 2,000 troops, almost 4 battalions against a few hundred Bokos who outsmarted the whole 2,000 force Chadian army with Boko Haram tactical maneuver, dribbled the Chadians and entered Cameroon`s Fotokol town that President Biya begged Chad to protect, the Bokos slaughtered 100 and wounded 500 innocent Cameroonian civilains while Chadian army was busy announcing it had freed a Nigerian town and was making You-Tube videos for CNN and Reuters news.....while the Cameroonians under it`s protection were being massacred....600 bleeding Cameroonian women and children know that Chad is a military failure in Nigerian border area grin grin grin

Chad was beaten by Boko Haram in Gamboru to Fotokol

20 Chadian soldiers killed

600 Cameroonian innocent civilians bleeding to death

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/boko-haram-kills-civilians-attacks-cameroon-border-nigeria-fotokol#img-1

All thanks to the failed Chadian rag tag army with ZERO knowledge of overall battle space combat strategy. grin grin grin

They are failures like your SANDF....birds of the same feather flock together, both you and them were in Bangui together when Seleka rebel force was reigning supreme....a tale of two foolish armies grin grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:17pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Dare me for what? Are you blind and illiterate? The ugly and super ugly Rooivalk helicopter design is about 20 years old, the final production design is both ugly and very obsolete by modern standards. Look at the tyres-landing gear, nobody in his right senses will design combat helicopter landing gear like that today.

Nigeria has latest version of Russian Mi-35 Hind E with latest 2014 avionics, not the old ones in your Rooivalk, NAF flies same combat helicopters with Russia`s mighty air force.

Stop fvcking yourself dude, the SAAF Rooivalk wasted too much time on design table and by the time it entered service, the airframe design has become obsolete... compare the Rooivalk and Hind....Ya fvcking Rooivalk design iz fvcking obsoletz nobody`s gonna buy it tongue tongue


Really, The landing gear? Did you put any reshearch in to it at all


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 2:29pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Dare me for what? Are you blind and illiterate? The ugly and super ugly Rooivalk helicopter design is about 20 years old, the final production design is both ugly and very obsolete by modern standards. Look at the tyres-landing gear, nobody in his right senses will design combat helicopter landing gear like that today.

Nigeria has latest version of Russian Mi-35 Hind E with latest 2014 avionics, not the old ones in your Rooivalk, NAF flies same combat helicopters with Russia`s mighty air force.

Stop fvcking yourself dude, the SAAF Rooivalk wasted too much time on design table and by the time it entered service, the airframe design has become obsolete... compare the Rooivalk and Hind....Ya fvcking Rooivalk design iz fvcking obsoletz nobody`s gonna buy it tongue tongue

So in everything you've said you have been unable to say exactly what about Rooivalk is obsolete....exept to say "look at the tyres". It brings me to the conclusion that you dont know what obsolete means. You have been unable to show how Mi-35 is better than Rooivalk, making Rooivalk obsolete. Then you mention avionics....shame im sure somewhere in your head you think Rooivalk uses 1980's avionics. Keep embarrassing yourself....I couldnt care less.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 2:44pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


NAF flew 5,390 combat sorties in less than one year, dead air forces or dead men don`t fly aircraft !

NAF JF-17 Thunder 4th generation jet fighter is on the way....25 to 40 units
.

Soon to be shot down by top of the range, 5th generation A Darter AAM.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:24pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Dare me for what? Are you blind and illiterate? The ugly and super ugly Rooivalk helicopter design is about 20 years old, the final production design is both ugly and very obsolete by modern standards. Look at the tyres-landing gear, nobody in his right senses will design combat helicopter landing gear like that today.

Nigeria has latest version of Russian Mi-35 Hind E with latest 2014 avionics, not the old ones in your Rooivalk, NAF flies same combat helicopters with Russia`s mighty air force.

Stop fvcking yourself dude, the SAAF Rooivalk wasted too much time on design table and by the time it entered service, the airframe design has become obsolete... compare the Rooivalk and Hind....Ya fvcking Rooivalk design iz fvcking obsoletz nobody`s gonna buy it tongue tongue
Look at the Hal Light attack helicopter, Apache, Tiger and A129 attack helicopters landing gears.

It absorbs shock during unintended or rough landings.

You think designing and fielding an attack helicopter takes 3 days, Look at similar projects with rich countries like the Tiger attack helicopter.

Air frame obsolete? The Hind E uses the same air frame from the 70s.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:30pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


NAF flew 5,390 combat sorties in less than one year, dead air forces or dead men don`t fly aircraft !

NAF JF-17 Thunder 4th generation jet fighter is on the way....25 to 40 units
.
So?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:39pm On Mar 02, 2015
Patchesagain:


How is it better than the Rooivalk?

Despite the Hind being a bigger target, having worse performance stats, less maueverable, unable to hover in combat, no crew redundancy, carrying less munitions, harder to work on, having an older air-frame, notoriously terrible russian engines with a short life-span, shocking ergonomics, no helmet mounted displays, no helmet slaved weapons... its better? lol, ok.
Massive IR signature trail, one of causes being its exhaust system. Unlike the Rooivalk which washes its exhaust gases.

Massive logistics.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:46pm On Mar 02, 2015
Msauza:


[size=13]Chad has helped Nigeria to temporarily defeat Boko Haram, now you don't even see their contribution anymore. They will pull out from you and you will have a hard time again controlling BH.

The role that they played by flushing out terrorists on your land immensely contributed on BH imaginary final defeat. However, we all know that BH is not yet defeated, they are simply lying low and will erupt once your muscles grow bigger and start to notice the role played by other forces as worthless.

Once you start claiming all their glory to yourself by telling the world that you defeated BH all alone without help from anyone, they will pull out and leave you all alone with BH. That's where BH will make you Barbecue for the day. You know well that you can't defeat BH all alone.[/size]


[size=20pt] FINAL AUTHORITY, RULER OF THE BATTLE ZONE SPEAKS :

Nigerian Armed Forces, not foreign troops, doing 90% of the fighting against Boko Haram - Source : Borno State Governor......


http://leadership.ng/news/413611/nigerian-troops-responsible-for-liberation-of-seized-towns-shettima

CASE CLOSED tonguetongue
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[/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:03pm On Mar 02, 2015
Msauza:
Eskom's Medupe power station unit 6 has been successfully synchronised, a huge relief for SA power crisis. It seems our problem will be solved sooner than expected.

15 million South Africans have never seen one electric light bulb in their wretched lives.

35 million South Africans survive on candles, thanks to ESKOM daily punishment of load shedding tonguetongue

Nothing will change for many years to come, NYSC...Now Your Suffering Continues....
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:20pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:


You are wrong, so consider yourself corrected. We never say "might".

You were here when Southies posted 3 different OPV options for SAN to buy, they confessed not sure which on your broke navy may buy....SANDF is broke.

You envy Nigeria's new purchases especially our missile armed drones that South Africa will not have tonguetongue
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:24pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


15 million South Africans have never seen one electric light bulb in their wretched lives.

35 million South Africans survive on candles, thanks to ESKOM daily punishment of load shedding tonguetongue

Nothing will change for many years to come, NYSC...Now Your Suffering Continues....


Source. All so load shedding is never more than 2 hours and has not occurred for some time now.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:27pm On Mar 02, 2015
Patchesagain:


Show us the money for the JF-17!!

#YourOwnArgumentKillsYou

$2 billion dollars was released by Nigerian president 6 months ago specially for new weapons purchase only, and after the release, NAF announced it will buy JF-17 Thunder.

No argument needed!

SANDF is reported broke and will soon retrench soldiers en-mass, plus self imposed embargo on new weapons purchases.

Now go jump into river orange with a bag of Dangote cement strapped to your back tonguetongue
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:47pm On Mar 02, 2015
andrewza:


Even the UN thinks the hind is better
and Ukraine is plaining on joining the list of countries that want the Hines to be upgraded with south African systems developed for rooivalk.

Thanks for quoting that United Nations say the Hind is better.

Ukraine flies older generation Hinds , but Nigeria flies new generation 2014 Hind E versions with the most modern and sophisticated Russian avionics
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 4:54pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


$2 billion dollars was released by Nigerian president 6 months ago specially for new weapons purchase only, and after the release, NAF announced it will buy JF-17 Thunder.

No argument needed!

SANDF is reported broke and will soon retrench soldiers en-mass, plus self imposed embargo on new weapons purchases.

Now go jump into river orange with a bag of Dangote cement strapped to your back tonguetongue
.

SANDF to increase numbers to 81 000 in 2017/2018. You must first get a heads up on the situation before you spew p00 out your mouth.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 4:56pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


You were here when Southies posted 3 different OPV options for SAN to buy, they confessed not sure which on your broke navy may buy....SANDF is broke.

You envy Nigeria's new purchases especially our missile armed drones that South Africa will not have tonguetongue
.

How do you expect people on this forum to know which OPV the SA Navy will purchase when the tender process ends July, followed by test and evaluation phase? Are you mad?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 4:58pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Thanks for quoting that United Nations say the Hind is better.

Ukraine flies older generation Hinds , but Nigeria flies new generation 2014 Hind E versions with the most modern and sophisticated Russian avionics
.


You are yet to show how Hind E is better than Rooivalk. Keep your personal opinions to yourself, and save room on this forum.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:03pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Thanks for quoting that United Nations say the Hind is better.

Ukraine flies older generation Hinds , but Nigeria flies new generation 2014 Hind E versions with the most modern and sophisticated Russian avionics
.


Mistake.

Sophisticated Russian avionics. What is that. Is it like a unicorn.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:08pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


So in everything you've said you have been unable to say exactly what about Rooivalk is obsolete....exept to say "look at the tyres". It brings me to the conclusion that you dont know what obsolete means. You have been unable to show how Mi-35 is better than Rooivalk, making Rooivalk obsolete. Then you mention avionics....shame im sure somewhere in your head you think Rooivalk uses 1980's avionics. Keep embarrassing yourself....I couldnt care less.

I said the airframe design is obsolete and I stand by it, a 20 year old design is obsolete today. Tell me a Toyota Camry 1995 model is a modern design.

I posted photos of both Rooivalk and modern version of Hind for you to compare, I said look at the tyres/landing gear, but as a life-time member of the 3-blind-mice society of South Africa, you failed to see that the obsolete Rooivalks tyres hang outside permanently like an old horses' dîck, while the modern Hinds tyres are invisible as a retractable landing gear.

You are Grand Patron of the 3-blind-mice society with life-long permanent membership grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:16pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


Soon to be shot down by top of the range, 5th generation A Darter AAM.

SAAF has no A-Darter in service today.

By the time you buy any single A-Darter, NAF JF-17 will have BVR missiles with 100 km range so your unlucky Gripen jet will not even be able to launch any of it's unlucky 22 km range A-Darter missile before it gets shot down by NAF JF-17 Devastating Thunder jets
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:17pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


I said the airframe design is obsolete and I stand by it, a 20 year old design is obsolete today. Tell me a Toyota Camry 1995 model is a modern design.

I posted photos of both Rooivalk and modern version of Hind for you to compare, I said look at the tyres/landing gear, but as a life-time member of the 3-blind-mice society of South Africa, you failed to see that the obsolete Rooivalks tyres hang outside permanently like an old horses' dîck, while the modern Hinds tyres are invisible as a retractable landing gear.

You are Grand Patron of the 3-blind-mice society with life-long permanent membership grin grin
.
.


The rooivalk airframe is broadly the same has all 1980s western designs. This includes the apachy. They far more modern than the 1960s design of the hind.

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