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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:18pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


I said the airframe design is obsolete and I stand by it, a 20 year old design is obsolete today. Tell me a Toyota Camry 1995 model is a modern design.

I posted photos of both Rooivalk and modern version of Hind for you to compare, I said look at the tyres/landing gear, but as a life-time member of the 3-blind-mice society of South Africa, you failed to see that the obsolete Rooivalks tyres hang outside permanently like an old horses' dîck, while the modern Hinds tyres are invisible as a retractable landing gear.

You are Grand Patron of the 3-blind-mice society with life-long permanent membership grin grin
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Again. You have said absolutely nothing. You think vehicle/civilian designs change for the same reason as military designs? What a useless comment. You have yet to show how our "obsolete" airframe is worse than a Hind. You wont....because you cant. Our Rooivalk with non-retractable wheels will literally do backflips over your fat piece of sh.it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:19pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


SAAF has no A-Darter in service today.

By the time you buy any single A-Darter, NAF JF-17 will have BVR missiles with 100 km range so your unlucky Gripen jet will not even be able to launch any of it's unlucky 22 km range A-Darter missile before it gets shot down by NAF JF-17 Devastating Thunder jets
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A darter production starts this year and SAAF was given the money in its budget to buy them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:23pm On Mar 02, 2015
andrewza:



The rooivalk airframe is broadly the same has all 1980s western designs. This includes the apachy. They far more modern than the 1960s design of the hind.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:26pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


SAAF has no A-Darter in service today.

By the time you buy any single A-Darter, NAF JF-17 will have BVR missiles with 100 km range so your unlucky Gripen jet will not even be able to launch any of it's unlucky 22 km range A-Darter missile before it gets shot down by NAF JF-17 Devastating Thunder jets
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Um...Nigeria has no JF-17 jet. You are a cocaine fuelled crack addict if you believe that Nigeria will purchase jets, train pilots on all systems and weapons, and be have even 5% of a fully trained squadron by this time next year. As opposed to A Darter which is being produced this year, ready for the SAAF.

A Darter is a self defence missile to defend against any useless crap you throw at us.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:32pm On Mar 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Look at the Hal Light attack helicopter, Apache, Tiger and A129 attack helicopters landing gears.

It absorbs shock during unintended or rough landings.

You think designing and fielding an attack helicopter takes 3 days, Look at similar projects with rich countries like the Tiger attack helicopter.

Air frame obsolete? The Hind E uses the same air frame from the 70s.


Modern Hind wheels are now retractable, fool.

Your Rooivalk fixed wheels will break of by force in a crash land.

A-129 is a 1980 design, so you can compare your obsolete Rooivalk....birds of same feather flock together.


Apache landing gear is underbelly NOT glued to wing area airframe....open your eyes...don't be like the 3-blind-mice

Rooivalk helicopter airframe is obsolete design, alone has scared every potential customer....NOBODY IS GONNA FVCKING BUY YA FVCKING OLD ROOIVALK TURKEY tonguetonguetonguetongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:32pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


NAF Mi-35M Hind E 2014 model, the latest in Russian air force. Get it ?

Actually the verstion Russia uses is the mi24 PN. The mi35m is just a day night export model hind. By the way look up the mi24 PN and see the landing gear used.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:36pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


How do you expect people on this forum to know which OPV the SA Navy will purchase when the tender process ends July, followed by test and evaluation phase? Are you mad?

You mean @DeVluit is mäd because he expects @Henry to know which of the two new Cobra APC types Nigeria bought when the photos have not been revealed
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:38pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


SAAF has no A-Darter in service today.

By the time you buy any single A-Darter, NAF JF-17 will have BVR missiles with 100 km range so your unlucky Gripen jet will not even be able to launch any of it's unlucky 22 km range A-Darter missile before it gets shot down by NAF JF-17 Devastating Thunder jets
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http://www.janes.com/article/43439/marlin-nears-first-test-aad143

19 September 2014



WHO DO YOU THINK WILL GET A WORLD CLASS BVRAAM 1ST? We showed the world we develop world class high tech products with A Darter, you think this will be any different?

[b]Denel Dynamics expects to conduct the first flight test of its Marlin 100km radar-guided anti-air missile early next year. The first launch will be conducted from the ground at Overberg Test Range, and will be a ballistic test to check out the missile’s basic flight systems.Successful ballistic tests should lead to programmed tests, in which the missile’s midcourse guidance and flight control systems are used to control the missile’s flightpath.

The final stage of trials will be closed-loop fully guided tests, with the missile’s seeker providing control inputs to the guidance section. In the meantime, Denel Dynamics will conduct ground testing and captive air testing of the latest version of seeker.

What is now known as Marlin has been a Denel Dynamics project to develop an active radar missile for around 10 years. The missile has evolved into one that is capable of satisfying land, sea and air applications, and its design has been carefully crafted to meet the requirements of surface and air launch. It employs a degree of modularity that allows it to incorporate elements from the successful A-Darter and Umkhonto programmes, such as the motor technology and fuze. The missile relies on the same motor for all its applications, negating the need to develop.

During the development of the weapon, the seeker has undergone an evolution to take account of technological advances. For instance, the original functions of five digital signal processing cards have been compressed to fit on one card, in turn freeing significant capacity for additional processing.This has allowed the seeker to be made capable of simultaneous multi-target tracking. Other benefits are the ability of four channels to be processed in parallel, rather than sequentially. An operational result is the increase in electronic counter-countermeasures performance, the seeker being able to discriminate between chaff, jamming and the real target.

Marlin is being developed by Denel Dynamics as a technology demonstration programme to a Department of Defence/Armscor contract. It was unveiled at the LAAD show in Rio de Janeiro last year, and Brazil is being courted as a likely partner.[/b]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:44pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Modern Hind wheels are now retractable, fool.

Your Rooivalk fixed wheels will break of by force in a crash land.

A-129 is a 1980 design, so you can compare your obsolete Rooivalk....birds of same feather flock together.


Apache landing gear is underbelly NOT glued to wing area airframe....open your eyes...don't be like the 3-blind-mice

Rooivalk helicopter airframe is obsolete design, alone has scared every potential customer....NOBODY IS GONNA FVCKING BUY YA FVCKING OLD ROOIVALK TURKEY tonguetonguetonguetongue
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Listen to this f00l. Ok let us assume the wheels break during a CRASH LANDING.....and so what? It's a f*cken crash landing....the helicopter isnt going anywhere after that. What happens if a Hind with retractable wheels has a crash landing? Do two highly skilled Russian technicians crawl out of the retractable wheel bay, fix the broken chopper and make it fly again? Your desperation sounds pathetic...i feel sorry for you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:55pm On Mar 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Massive IR signature trail, one of causes being its exhaust system. Unlike the Rooivalk which washes its exhaust gases.

Massive logistics.

Nigeria and Russia now own new Hind E versions with reduced IR signature from the exhaust. Hind E has changed the Hind into a far better helicopter than Rooivalk will ever be.

Multirole aircraft are always superior to single role aircraft

Hinds are multirole, Rooivalk is a single role waste of money....$40 million fvcking dollars, price of Su-30 Flanker jet !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:59pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


Um...Nigeria has no JF-17 jet. You are a cocaine fuelled crack addict if you believe that Nigeria will purchase jets, train pilots on all systems and weapons, and be have even 5% of a fully trained squadron by this time next year. As opposed to A Darter which is being produced this year, ready for the SAAF.

A Darter is a self defence missile to defend against any useless crap you throw at us.

CONCLUSION : SAAF has NO SINGLE A-Darter in service
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:03pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


A Darter is a self defence missile to defend against any useless crap you throw at us.

South Africans boasting about A-Darter missile with short range 22 km, tiny Eritrea and poor Sudan is laughing at you with their long range BVR missiles gringringrin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 6:04pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


CONCLUSION : SAAF has NO SINGLE A-Darter in service
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Conclusion: NAF has no single JF-17 in service

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 6:04pm On Mar 02, 2015
http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/169745-boko-haram-attacks-island-on-niger-side-of-lake-chad

This is why we need our neighbours to be strong and block off BH.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:11pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


http://www.janes.com/article/43439/marlin-nears-first-test-aad143

19 September 2014



WHO DO YOU THINK WILL GET A WORLD CLASS BVRAAM 1ST? We showed the world we develop world class high tech products with A Darter, you think this will be any different?

Denel Dynamics expects to conduct the first flight test of its Marlin 100km radar-guided anti-air missile early next year. The first launch will be conducted from the ground at Overberg Test Range, and will be a ballistic test to check out the missile’s basic flight systems.Successful ballistic tests should lead to programmed tests, in which the missile’s midcourse guidance and flight control systems are used to control the missile’s flightpath.

The final stage of trials will be closed-loop fully guided tests, with the missile’s seeker providing control inputs to the guidance section. In the meantime, Denel Dynamics will conduct ground testing and captive air testing of the latest version of seeker.

What is now known as Marlin has been a Denel Dynamics project to develop an active radar missile for around 10 years. The missile has evolved into one that is capable of satisfying land, sea and air applications, and its design has been carefully crafted to meet the requirements of surface and air launch. It employs a degree of modularity that allows it to incorporate elements from the successful A-Darter and Umkhonto programmes, such as the motor technology and fuze. The missile relies on the same motor for all its applications, negating the need to develop.

During the development of the weapon, the seeker has undergone an evolution to take account of technological advances. For instance, the original functions of five digital signal processing cards have been compressed to fit on one card, in turn freeing significant capacity for additional processing.This has allowed the seeker to be made capable of simultaneous multi-target tracking. Other benefits are the ability of four channels to be processed in parallel, rather than sequentially. An operational result is the increase in electronic counter-countermeasures performance, the seeker being able to discriminate between chaff, jamming and the real target.

Marlin is being developed by Denel Dynamics as a technology demonstration programme to a Department of Defence/Armscor contract. It was unveiled at the LAAD show in Rio de Janeiro last year, and Brazil is being courted as a likely partner.

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South Africa may, likely, planning to, trying to....Blah Blah Blah.

Do you know what Nigeria too is planning? AWACS aircraft! Just waiting to confirm details from inside sources.

Today, SAAF has NO single A-Darter and MARLIN missile does NOT even exist.

Case closed[/size]
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:16pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


Conclusion: NAF has no single JF-17 in service

I never disputed that. I always said NAF and SAAF are stuck with short range missiles with equal air to air power
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:20pm On Mar 02, 2015
rka1:
http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/169745-boko-haram-attacks-island-on-niger-side-of-lake-chad

This is why we need our neighbours to be strong and block off BH.

Please oga mi, make I copy this your web link save am for my folder, I go need am one day like dat.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 6:30pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Please oga mi, make I copy this your web link save am for my folder, I go need am one day like dat.

Oga mi, carry on sir.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 6:32pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


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May, likely, planning to, trying to....Blah Blah Blah.

Do you know what Nigeria too is planning? AWACS aircraft! Just waiting to confirm details from inside sources.

Today, SAAF has NO single A-Darter and MARLIN missile does NOT even exist.

Case closed[/size]
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Good. Now take that delusion out of your head of thinking any JF-17 will ever fire a BVRAAM at us before we a fully equiped with world class short and long range missiles.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:59pm On Mar 02, 2015
saengine:


Good. Now take that delusion out of your head of thinking any JF-17 will ever fire a BVRAAM at us before we a fully equiped with world class short and long range missiles.

Thanks for stylishly admitting South Africa is afraid of NAF buying JF-17 Thunder especially if a BVR missile comes with it, you go peepee for ya shokoto and pata gringrin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 8:11pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Thanks for stylishly admitting South Africa is afraid of NAF buying JF-17 Thunder especially if a BVR missile comes with it, you go peepee for ya shokoto and pata gringrin

Yes...because the A Darter programme (started 1995) and Marlin programme (started 10 years ago) where developed because SA was scared of future Nigerian JF-17's. You see how you keep talking sh*t? Nigeria can buy whatever it wants....in the meantime SA is making sure it has world class short and long range missiles for its platforms.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:12pm On Mar 02, 2015
DieVluit:


Meaning, you have given up all attempts to have your moemish tag reversed. You have accepted the id1ocy of your posts as from yesterday at least; and that the Nigerian military is inferior and you cannot argue otherwise. And that emotions and racism will not change this.

Well done.
nairaland's cry baby, Die-vluit is still sulking.

Really you aren't worth my literary engagement. But I can use your desperation at getting even with me as amusement for my leisure.

My post are idiotic, yet they hurt you so bad, you react to each and everyone of them.....hehehe

you call me a racist for speaking the truth, yet your very life, your sub-zero existence is proof that you are living on free food stamps handed out to you by ANC officially stolen from the anglo-Dutch......HOHOHOHO


You claim your military is superior yet it was a horror movie for south Africa when the HIV -ridden SANDF went to CAR.

As of now, your parliament is considering selling off your weapons you acquired in pretence of what you are not. You don't have qualified pilots, your jets are rotting in their hangers. Your president is proposing a military defence pact with Nigeria.....and you have not been to war, you have 0 experience or capability fighting terrorist insurgents of the 21st century. YOU AREN'T QUALIFIED DEBATING MILITARY MATTERS WITH NIGERIANS.

you are not worth my time, your IQ is as low as your Zulu bush hut and........

***in the voice of Ahmed, the terrorist ****** I'LL KILL YOU.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:26pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Modern Hind wheels are now retractable, fool.

Your Rooivalk fixed wheels will break of by force in a crash land.

A-129 is a 1980 design, so you can compare your obsolete Rooivalk....birds of same feather flock together.


Apache landing gear is underbelly NOT glued to wing area airframe....open your eyes...don't be like the 3-blind-mice

Rooivalk helicopter airframe is obsolete design, alone has scared every potential customer....NOBODY IS GONNA FVCKING BUY YA FVCKING OLD ROOIVALK TURKEY tonguetonguetonguetongue
.
Break? grin grin grin Go buy your self a brain, cause you simply cannot comprehend the basic.

Look at the A129, Tiger, Apace and other attack helicopter.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:36pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria and Russia now own new Hind E versions with reduced IR signature from the exhaust. Hind E has changed the Hind into a far better helicopter than Rooivalk will ever be.

Multirole aircraft are always superior to single role aircraft

Hinds are multirole, Rooivalk is a single role waste of money....$40 million fvcking dollars, price of Su-30 Flanker jet !
.
Massive IR signature.

No they are not. Armed forces go for multi-role aircraft to cut down costs.

People who don't know the fly away cost of the Rooivalk will keep saying that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:40pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


I never disputed that. I always said NAF and SAAF are stuck with short range missiles with equal air to air power
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Nigerian air force jets need an air force base to deploy outside your country.

Or else they'll be destroyed and unable to conduct night and bad weather ops.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:50pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Thanks for stylishly admitting South Africa is afraid of NAF buying JF-17 Thunder especially if a BVR missile comes with it, you go peepee for ya shokoto and pata gringrin
Even if you buy them, you can't even defend the whole of Nigeria effectively with them.

Again your force lacks capacity to deploy fighter Jets outside your boarders, it won't be different if you get JF-17s.

Soon the production contract for the A-Darter will be signed.

GBADS.
New sensors(two types) coming.
New missiles.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:51pm On Mar 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Break? grin grin grin Go buy your self a brain, cause you simply cannot comprehend the basic.

Look at the A129, Tiger, Apace and other attack helicopter.

Or even the MI24 PN. The verstion of the hind Russia is now useing.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:08pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Rooivalk is ugly, even the final prototype till production variant are both very ugly.

Rooivalk design is TOTALLY OBSOLETE tongue tongue
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Citation!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:11pm On Mar 02, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria and Russia now own new Hind E versions with reduced IR signature from the exhaust. Hind E has changed the Hind into a far better helicopter than Rooivalk will ever be.

Multirole aircraft are always superior to single role aircraft

Hinds are multirole, Rooivalk is a single role waste of money....$40 million fvcking dollars, price of Su-30 Flanker jet !
.
citation
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:26pm On Mar 02, 2015
lezz:
nairaland's cry baby, Die-vluit is still sulking.

Really you aren't worth my literary engagement. But I can use your desperation at getting even with me as amusement for my leisure.

My post are idiotic, yet they hurt you so bad, you react to each and everyone of them.....hehehe

you call me a racist for speaking the truth, yet your very life, your sub-zero existence is proof that you are living on free food stamps handed out to you by ANC officially stolen from the anglo-Dutch......HOHOHOHO


You claim your military is superior yet it was a horror movie for south Africa when the HIV -ridden SANDF went to CAR.

As of now, your parliament is considering selling off your weapons you acquired in pretence of what you are not. You don't have qualified pilots, your jets are rotting in their hangers. Your president is proposing a military defence pact with Nigeria.....and you have not been to war, you have 0 experience or capability fighting terrorist insurgents of the 21st century. YOU AREN'T QUALIFIED DEBATING MILITARY MATTERS WITH NIGERIANS.

you are not worth my time, your IQ is as low as your Zulu bush hurt and........

***in the voice of Ahmed, the terrorist ****** I'LL KILL YOU.
"you have not been to war, you have 0 experience or capability fighting terrorist insurgents of the 21st century. YOU AREN'T QUALIFIED DEBATING MILITARY MATTERS WITH NIGERIANS."
Would you look at that! a another Nigerian boasting about the fact that their in a civil war, if you didnt know its a good thing to be at peace, it means the DEFENCE force is doing a good job DEFENDING the country and safeguarding its boarders and citizens.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 10:31pm On Mar 02, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:51pm On Mar 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Break? grin grin grin Go buy your self a brain, cause you simply cannot comprehend the basic.

Look at the A129, Tiger, Apace and other attack helicopter.

The Rooivalk is an obsolete French Helicopter. That Helicopter has been involved in 14 failed bids.

That's a record.

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