Sanchez01:

Lolz... I'm not at all. Did I sound like one?

Yes,

Am only contributing not because am denying or belittling what has been explained from the Holy Bible and I hope no offense will be taken. However, this is what was explained from the Qur'an about the Story of Habil (Abel) and Qabil (Cain)

It was recorded that during the time of Adam -- "The woman was not allowed in marriage for her male twin, but Adam was commanded to marry her to any of her other brothers. In each pregnancy, Adam was given a twin, a male and a female.

A beautiful daughter was once born for Adam and another one that was not beautiful. So the twin brother of the ugly daughter (Abel) said, `Marry your sister to me and I will marry my sister to you.' He (Cain) said, `No, for I have more right to my sister.' So they both offered a sacrifice.

The sacrifice of the one who offered the sheep was accepted while the sacrifice of the other (Cain), which consisted of some produce, was not accepted. So the latter killed his brother.''

"Cain held Abel by the head to kill him, so Abel laid down for him and Cain started twisting Abel's head, not knowing how to kill him. Shaytan came to Cain and said, `Do you want to kill him' He said, `Yes.' Shaytan said, `Take that stone and throw it on his head.' So Cain took the stone and threw it at his brother's head and smashed his head.

Shaytan then went to Eve in a hurry and said to her, `O Eve! Cain killed Abel.' She asked him, `Woe to you! What does `kill' mean' He said, `He will no longer eat, drink or move.' She said, `And that is death' He said, `Yes it is.'
So she started to weep until Adam came to her while she was weeping and said, `What is the matter with you' She did not answer him. He asked her two more times, but she did not answer him. So he said, `You and your daughters will inherit the practice of weeping, while I and my sons are free of it.''

okiemuteokiss:



Yes,

Lolz...

EmmySparky:
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i giv u A minus

EmmySparky:
...choi...this is the best write up I have seen on nairaland...bro ur IQ is very high...thumbs up bro

i giv u A minus

EmmySparky:
...choi...this is the best write up I have seen on nairaland...bro ur IQ is very high...thumbs up bro

Very high that's why I mentioned him

ammyluv2002:
Very high that's why I mentioned him

I'm not sure about that o

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Sanchez01:
I'm not sure about that o

For your mind now

phemyor:
i giv u A minus i giv u A minus

I give u A plus...

ammyluv2002:
Very high that's why I mentioned him

lol that's true...and u have a nice pic too...

Sanchez01:
It was an error. I'm sorry

no problem mAn...we are all humans prone to errors...I got ur point though

EmmySparky:
lol that's true...and u have a nice pic too...

Tnx

ammyluv2002:

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For your mind now

ammyluv2002:
Tnx

ur welcome

it's funny and sad reading all the comments here. I will start mine with these words of Christ.
(1) My people perish for lack of knowledge!
What's all this assumptions for? Are you guys trying to tell us that the simple meaning of Christianity is lack of understanding? This is not God's will for His people. It is the will of God that His people know everything under the sun.
This bible we read today, the words in it were addressed to the people of old according to their level of understanding. They were not spiritually mature to grasp everything. Christ Himself proved this when He said to His disciples in John16:12-15 thus: I have yet many things to say to you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit, when He, the Spirit of Truth is come, He shall guide you into all truth and show you more things to come...
Many of you may persist in thinking that this promise was fulfilled on the day of pentecost, it is wrong.
After the incidence on the day of pentecost, many years later Paul said to the Corinthians thus: For we know and prophecy in part, but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away with.
This was to confirm to the people that the promise of Jesus was not fulfilled in the incidence which occurred on the day of pentecost.
The story of Adam and Eve is nothing but an allegoric one serves to convey the knowledge of the development of Creation to us. It is wrong to interpret it in an earthly sense. Neither Adam nor Eve had ever been on earth. it's like a picture pointing us to something.
Shortly I will come up with something that will really help in knowing the truth of what really happened. To those who closed themselves exclusively to the bible as the only word of God, accept my sympathy in advance.

What I am about to post consists of both the spiritual and the physical. That is, the journey of man from the Kingdom of God as unconscious spirit seed to the gross material earth for the purpose of developing himself through experiencing to consciousness and maturity.
Anyone, especially the questioner who wishes to be cleared in this matter should read closely with his or her intuition and not with the intellect in order to grasp the knowledge he or she so desires.

THE CREATION OF MAN
“GOD CREATED MAN after His own image and breathed into him His breath!” These are two happenings: the creating and the animating!
Both processes, as with everything, were strictly subject to the existing Divine Laws. Nothing can go beyond their scope. No Divine Act of Will will oppose these immovable Laws, which bear the Divine Will Itself. Also every revelation and promise takes place in regard to these Laws, and must be fulfilled in them, not otherwise!
So also the coming into existence of man on earth, which was a step forward of the mighty Creation, the transition of the gross material to an entirely new, higher state.
In order to speak of the incarnation of man it is necessary to know of the Ethereal World; for man in flesh and blood is placed as a furthering connecting-link between the ethereal part and the gross material part of Creation, while his root remains in the spiritual.
“God created man after His own image!”
This making or creating was a long chain of development, which took place strictly within the Laws which God Himself has woven into Creation. Put into effect by the Highest, these Laws work inflexibly and steadfastly at the fulfilment of His Will; automatically, as a part of Him, towards perfection.
So also with the creation of man as the crown of the whole work, in whom all the species that lay in Creation were to unite. Hence in the Gross Material World, physically visible matter, there was gradually formed in the further evolution the vessel in which a spark from the Spiritual that was immortal could be incarnated.
Through the continuously striving forming there grew up in time the most highly developed animal which, by thinking, already made use of various aids for its sustenance and defence. Even today we can observe certain species of animals which make use of certain aids to secure and store their necessities of life, and which often show astounding cunning in defence.
The aforesaid most highly developed animals, which were swept away by upheavals that took place on earth, are today described as “primeval men”. But to call them the ancestors of men is a great error! With equal right the cow could be described as “part-mother” of mankind, because in the first months of their lives most children need the cow’s milk to build up their bodies, and thus with her help remain alive and grow.
The noble and thinking animal “primeval man” has also not much more to do with the real man than that; for the gross material body of man is nothing more than the indispensable instrument that he needs to enable him to work in all directions in the gross material earthly, and to make himself understood.
To assert that man is descended from the ape is a great exaggeration! This is going much too far. Raising part of the process to represent the absolute full fact. The main point is lacking!
It would be right if man’s body really were “the man”. As it is, however, the gross material body is only his cloak, which he lays aside as soon as he returns to the Ethereal World.
How then did the first man come into existence?
The highest stage in the Gross Material World having been reached with the most perfect animal, a change for the purpose of further development had to come if there was not to be a standstill, which with its dangers could become retrogression. And this change was foreseen, and came:
Having issued as a spirit spark, sinking down through the Ethereal World and at the same time uplifting everything, there stood at its boundary, at the moment when the gross-material-earthly vessel rising upwards in its development had reached the highest point, the ethereal-spiritual human being also ready and prepared to unite with gross matter, in order to further and uplift it.
Thus while the vessel in the World of Gross Matter had grown to maturity, the soul in the Ethereal World had developed so far that it possessed sufficient strength to retain its independence upon entering the gross material vessel.
The union of these two parts now signified a closer union of the Gross Material World with the Ethereal World, right up to the Spiritual.
Only this event was the birth of man!
Procreation itself is still a purely animal act with men even today. Higher or baser intuitive perceptions attending it have nothing to do with the act itself, but they bring spiritual consequences whose effects become of great importance in the attraction of absolutely similar species.
Also of a purely animal nature is the development of the body up to the middle of pregnancy. Purely animal is really not the right expression, but for the time being I will call it purely gross material, and only enter into it more fully in later lectures.
In the middle of pregnancy, at a certain maturity of the growing body, the spirit intended for the birth is incarnated, which until then stays very much in the vicinity of the mother-to-be. The entrance of the spirit causes the first twitches of the small developing gross material body, thus the first movements of the child.
At this point there also arises the peculiarly blissful feeling of the pregnant woman, in whom quite different intuitive perceptions set in from this moment: the awareness of the presence of the second spirit within her, the sensing of it. And her own intuitive perceptions will also be in accordance with the nature of the new, second spirit within her.
Such is the process with every incarnation. But now let us return to the first coming into existence of man.
Thus the great epoch in the development of Creation had come: On the one side in the Gross Material World stood the most highly developed animal, which was to provide the gross material body as a vessel for the coming man; on the other side in the Ethereal World stood the developed human soul who was waiting to unite with the gross material vessel, and thereby give a further impetus for spiritualisation to everything gross material.
Now when an act of procreation took place between the noblest pair of these highly developed animals, there was incarnated at the hour of incarnation not an animal soul1, as hitherto, but instead the waiting human soul bearing within it the immortal spirit spark. The ethereal human souls with predominantly developed positive abilities incarnated in male animal bodies, corresponding to the homogeneity; those with predominantly negative, more delicate abilities in female bodies, which were closer to their nature.2
This process does not support the assertion that man, whose real origin lies in the spiritual, descends from the animal “primeval man”, which could only provide the gross material intermediate vessel. Even today it would not occur to the most extreme materialists to consider themselves directly related to an animal, and yet there is now, as there was then, a close physical relationship, hence a gross material homogeneity, whereas the really “living” man, that is, the actual spiritual “ego” of man, has no homogeneity with or derivation from the animal whatever.
Now after his birth the first earthman really stood alone, without parents, because in spite of their high development he could not recognise the animals as parents, and was unable to have any communion with them.
Nor did he need it; for he was a completely intuitively-perceptive human being, and as such also lived in the Ethereal World, which gave him values that made up for everything else.
The severance of the woman from the first human being was an ethereal-spiritual one. It did not take place in a gross-material-earthly way, as in fact the descriptions in the Bible and ancient religious writings mainly refer just to spiritual and ethereal events. Man as such stood alone, and during his growth primarily used the rougher, sterner intuitive perceptions for his subsistence, as a result of which the more delicate ones were increasingly pushed aside and isolated until, as the more delicate part of the spiritual man, they were completely severed.
Now this second part, in order not to remain inactive in the gross material, where in the first place it was absolutely necessary for upliftment, was incarnated in a second vessel, which in accordance with its fineness was of the female sex, while the rougher intuitive perceptions were left to the gross materially stronger man. Exactly corresponding to the Laws of the Ethereal World, in which everything immediately takes on form, the delicate and weak manifesting in female forms, the stern and strong in male forms.
Through her more valuable spiritual qualities, woman should and could in reality be more perfect than man, if she had only exerted herself to clarify ever more harmoniously the intuitive perceptions bestowed upon her, whereby she would have become a power that was bound to have a revolutionising and greatly furthering effect in the entire Gross Material Creation.
But unfortunately it was just she who above all failed, because she surrendered herself as a plaything to the strong powers of intuitive perception assigned to her, which in addition she even dimmed and defiled through feeling and imagination.
What deep significance lies in the Biblical narrative of the tasting from the tree of knowledge! How the woman, incited by the serpent, offered the apple to the man. A better illustration of the event in the material sphere simply could not have been given.
The offering of the apple, emanating from the woman, was the woman’s becoming conscious of the effect of her charms upon man, and their intentional exploitation. But the taking and eating by the man was his response to it with the awakening urge to draw the attention of woman only to himself by beginning to make himself desirable through accumulating treasures and appropriating various things of value.
With this began the cultivation of the intellect, with its accompanying manifestations of greed, falsehood and oppression, to which men finally subjected themselves completely, thus of their own free will making themselves slaves of their instrument.
But with the intellect as ruler it inevitably followed that, in accordance with its very nature, they also chained themselves firmly to time and space, thereby losing the ability to grasp or experience anything above time and space, such as everything spiritual and ethereal.
This was the complete severance from the real Paradise and from the Ethereal World, which they brought upon themselves; for it was now inevitable that with the horizon of their ability to comprehend firmly bound to earthly matters through the intellect, and thus narrowly limited, they could no longer “understand” all that is ethereal, which does not know the earthly concept either of time or of space.
Thus the experiences and visions of the intuitively-perceptive men, as well as the misunderstood traditions, became “fairy tales” to the intellectual men. The ever-increasing number of materialists, that is, those who are only able to acknowledge coarse matter bound to earthly time and space, finally ridiculed the idealists to whom, through their much deeper and more expansive inner life, the way to the Ethereal World was not yet quite barred; they called them dreamers, if not fools or even impostors.
All this was a long-lasting period of development, comprising millions of years.
But now at last we are very near the hour when the next great epoch in Creation sets in, which is unconditional upward-swinging, and brings what the first epoch with the coming into existence of man should already have brought: the birth of the spiritualised complete man! Of the man who has a furthering and ennobling effect on the whole of Gross Material Creation, which is the real purpose of man on earth.
Then there will be no more room for the oppressive materialist, chained solely to earthly conceptions of time and space. He will be a stranger in every country, homeless. He will wither away and perish like chaff that separates from the wheat. Take care that in this separation you are not found too light!

bsjay, your angle of thought is new and to think that you mentioned that the creation of Adam and Eve is not in the real sense. You're obviously paranoid about the account of creation. The Bible vividly described the four rivers; Pishon, Gihon, the Hiddekel, and the Euphrates are present in the world today. I enjoy Bible sessions with anyone who is willing to study and understand simple assertions. Please, read Genesis 1-3 and John 1-1 (with any advanced Bible commentary/guide) and you'll see the truths.

I was surprised you started with the "My people perish" quote but could not answer the OP's question. How would you explain to a lay man if asked in person? I have learnt overtime that the best way to destroy what you're saying is when you try to teach your teachers. Please don't get me wrong, I anticipated a more powerful viewpoint but what you submitted is far from it. There's a difference between Cain and his father and your epistle did not do justice to the subject matter. Simplicity and high spiritual alertness are required in understand the Scriptures. The Word of God is not Biology, Philosophy and Science. God's word is God's word and is made light to the heart of those who desire it. II Tim 2:15



Shalom!

Sanchez01:
bsjay, your angle of thought is new and to think that you mentioned that the creation of Adam and Eve is not in the real sense. You're obviously paranoid about the account of creation. The Bible vividly described the four rivers; Pishon, Gihon, the Hiddekel, and the Euphrates are present in the world today. I enjoy Bible sessions with anyone who is willing to study and understand simple assertions. Please, read Genesis 1-3 and John 1-1 (with any advanced Bible commentary/guide) and you'll see the truths.

I was surprised you started with the "My people perish" quote but could not answer the OP's question. How would you explain to a lay man if asked in person? I have learnt overtime that the best way to destroy what you're saying is when you try to teach your teachers. Please don't get me wrong, I anticipated a more powerful viewpoint but what you submitted is far from it. There's a difference between Cain and his father and your epistle did not do justice to the subject matter. Simplicity and high spiritual alertness are required in understand the Scriptures. The Word of God is not Biology, Philosophy and Science. God's word is God's word and is made light to the heart of those who desire it. II Tim 2:15



Shalom!

*smiles* I know you'd rather hold on to those assumptions of yours which lacks conviction and ignore the word of Truth and knowledge.
However, the word of Truth is like a net cast into a river, it catches anything and everything but when brought out of the river, what is needed is selected and kept aside while the useless are thrown back into the river.
If the word of Truth and knowledge reaches you without corroborating with your assumptions, leave it alone and go your way quietly.
But bear in mind, more than soon the bandage shall fall and the fate of many will be so unspeakable.
The word of God is clear and requires no extenuation and deliberations.

For ur complete knowledge of creation, I will still help very soon.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF CREATION


ONCE BEFORE I have pointed out that the written accounts of Creation should not be taken in an earthly sense. The Bible narrative also does not refer to this earth. The creation of the earth was simply the natural consequence of the further development of the first Creation.
It is almost incredible how scriptural scholars could have jumped to such an illogical and incomplete assumption as that God out of His own Perfection could, without any transition, have immediately created the gross material earth!
To get nearer to the truth of what actually happened, it is not necessary to change the “Word” of the Scriptures. On the contrary, the description of the history of Creation represents the truth much more clearly than do all the false and incomplete assumptions! It is only the erroneous interpretations which have caused a misunderstanding on the part of so many people!
These people quite rightly sense the mistake that is made by persistently placing the Paradise referred to in the Bible on this gross material earth, which is so far remote from the Divine. It surely cannot be so little known that the Bible is primarily a spiritual book! It gives clarification about spiritual events, man only being mentioned where he has an immediate relationship with these spiritual things in order to illustrate and make them clear.
Finally even the human intellect can understand – because it is so natural – that the Bible narrative of Creation does not refer to the earth, which is so far away from the Creator!
Hardly anybody will dare to dispute the fact that this immediate Creation of God, designated as the first Creation, can only be looked for in His immediate neighbourhood, because it was the first to emanate from Him, and is thus bound to be in closer connection with Him! No calm and clear thinker will expect that this first and original Creation was enacted just on this earth, which is furthest removed from the Divine Sphere, and which only came into being in the further course of development!
Thus there could be no question of a Paradise on earth! What God created, as expressly stated in the story of Creation, naturally remained immediately connected with Him and could only be situated in His near vicinity. It is likewise quite understandable and natural that consequently all that was created in or emanated from His immediate proximity must most nearly resemble the Creator’s own Perfection.
However, to suppose this to be on the gross material earth must breed doubters! The thought of a “driving out” from the earthly Paradise, whereby those driven out would still have to remain on the same earth, is so unhealthy, is so evidently and grossly material in its concept, as to be almost grotesque! It is a lifeless picture, bearing the stamp of such a rigidly compiled dogma that no sensible human being knows what to do with it!
The less perfect a thing is the further removed it is from Perfection. Hence the spiritual beings who were created out of Perfection cannot be the human beings on earth, but must have their place closest to this Perfection, and therefore represent the most ideal examples for humanity! They are the eternal spiritual beings who never descend into the World of Matter and therefore never become human beings. They are radiant, ideal figures who attract like magnets and, at the same time, exercise a strengthening influence on all the abilities in the human spirit-germs, and later in the spirits which have attained to consciousness.
The Paradise mentioned in the Bible may therefore not be confused with the earth!
For a better understanding it is necessary once again to give a complete picture of all that exists in order to make it easier for the seeker to find his way to the Eternal Kingdom of God, the Paradise from which he originates in his very first spiritual beginning.
Let man imagine Divinity as absolutely the highest over all! God Himself, as the starting point of all that exists, as the Primordial Source of all Life, is in His absolute Perfection unsubstantiate. Next to God Himself in His very own Unsubstantiality follows the Sphere of Divine Substantiality. In this originate the first beings to take form and shape. To these belong in the first place the Primordial Queen and the Archangels, and finally a small number of Elders. The Elders are of great importance for the further development towards spiritual substantiality, much in the same way as, later on, the conscious beings of the Animistic Sphere are of great importance for the development of matter. Lucifer was sent from the Sphere of Divine Substantiality to be a direct support for Creation as it automatically developed further.
The Son of God, however, issued from Divine Unsubstantiality as a part of It, and after fulfilling His Mission of help had to return to Divine Unsubstantiality and again become One with the Father. The Son of Man also issues from Divine Unsubstantiality. Through the connection with conscious spiritual substantiality His Part, which was severed, remained of necessity separate from Divine Unsubstantiality, and yet also directly connected with It, so that He may stand as the Eternal Mediator between God and His Work.
As Lucifer, who proceeded from the Sphere of Divine Substantiality, failed in his mission, it became necessary to send in his place someone stronger who could bind him and bring help to Creation. For this reason the Son of Man, who was entrusted with this office, issued from Divine Unsubstantiality.
Adjoining the Sphere of Divine Substantiality is Primordial Creation, the Eternal Kingdom of God. Closest to Divine Substantiality there is first of all conscious spiritual substantiality, consisting of the created eternal spiritual beings who are also called spirits. These are the perfect, ideal forms of all that human spirits, in their most perfect development, can and should aspire to. Like magnets they draw up those who strive to ascend. Through this automatic connection those who are seeking and those who strive to ascend often feel an inexplicable longing, which gives rise to the urge to seek and strive upwards.
These spirits were never born into the World of Matter, and were created by God Himself, the Primordial Source of all Being and all Life, as the first Primordial Spirits, thus coming nearest to Him in perfection. They are the ones made after His Own Image!
It must not be overlooked that the story of Creation expressly states: “After His Image!” This statement is not without importance, for they can only be after His Image, not after Himself, i.e., only after that in which He shows Himself, because only pure Divinity Itself is unsubstantiate.
In order to show Himself God must first clothe Himself in Divine Substantiality, as has already been said above, but even then He cannot be seen by those who dwell in spiritual substantiality, but only by those dwelling in Divine Substantiality, and that only to a minor degree, because all that is purely Divine must in its perfect purity and radiance blind what is not so Divine. Even those of Divine Substantiality cannot look upon God’s Countenance! The difference between Divine Unsubstantiality and Divine Substantiality is still far too great!
This Paradise of conscious spiritual substantiality also contains unconscious spiritual substantiality which holds the same fundamental components as conscious spiritual substantiality, i.e., the germs. These germs have life, and all life in the whole Creation strives to develop in obedience to Divine Will, to develop towards consciousness. This is quite a natural and healthy process!
The unconscious, however, can only achieve this consciousness through experiencing, and this urge towards further development through experiencing finally causes such maturing or ambitious germs of unconscious spiritual substantiality to be automatically expelled or ejected, whichever you wish to call it, over the boundary of the Sphere of Spiritual Substantiality. Since this expulsion or ejection of a germ cannot take place in an upward direction, it must necessarily proceed in the only way open to it, and that is downwards.
And this is the natural expulsion from Paradise, from the Sphere of Spiritual Substantiality, necessary to every spirit-germ striving to become conscious!
When it is said: “In the sweat of thy brow thou shalt eat thy bread”, this is metaphorically quite correct. In other words, the turmoil of experiencing makes it necessary for it to defend itself and struggle against the onrushing influences of the lower sphere into which it penetrates as a stranger!
This expulsion, ejection, or being driven out from Paradise is in no wise a punishment, but becomes an absolutely natural and automatic necessity when the spirit-germ is nearing a certain stage of maturity as a result of the urge to develop self-consciousness. It is the birth from the Sphere of Unconscious Spiritual Substantiality into the Sphere of Animistic Substantiality1, and later into the World of Matter for the purpose of developing. It is progress, not retrogression!
The Fall of Man, which occurred only later, and from which hereditary sin developed, was a happening all on its own, about which I shall still give a detailed explanation. It has nothing whatever to do with the continuously recurring process described here!
It is also quite a correct description when it is said in the story of Creation that man felt the desire to “cover his unclothedness” after the conception of good and evil awakened within him, which was the beginning of self-consciousness.
With the increasing urge to become conscious, ejection or expulsion from Paradise follows automatically, so as to journey through the Animistic Sphere and enter the World of Matter. Now as soon as the spirit-germ steps out of the Realm of Spiritual Substantiality it would stand “naked” as such in the lower, different and denser surrounding. One could also say “uncovered”. It is then that the human spirit feels not only the urge but the absolute necessity to cover itself protectingly with the essence and nature of the substance surrounding it; to wrap itself in a sort of cloak and take on first the animistic covering, then the ethereal body and finally also the gross material body.
Not until it has clothed itself in a gross material cloak or body does sexual instinct fully awaken and with it physical shame!
The greater this feeling of shame is the nobler is this instinct and the higher the man also ranks spiritually! The inner spiritual worth of a human being on earth may be directly measured by the greater or lesser degree of his physical shame.
This is an infallible standard and easily recognised by any man! When this feeling of outward shame has been choked or eradicated, the soul’s far finer and quite different feeling of shame will always be simultaneously choked and the inner man consequently debased.
It is an infallible sign of a deep fall and certain deterioration when humanity, under the guise of progress, begin to want to “lift” themselves above the feeling of shame, this precious jewel which could help them in every respect. No matter whether this is done under cover of sport, hygiene, fashion, children’s education or many another welcome pretence! Decline and fall cannot then be stayed, and only the greatest of shocks can perhaps still bring to their senses a few of all those who so thoughtlessly allowed themselves to be drawn along this course!
Following its natural expulsion and during its journey through the animistic sphere and material parts of Creation, not only one but ever more urgent necessities arise for the existence of the spirit-germ in these lower regions of Creation so as further to develop and uplift them. This also works in return to strengthen and fortify the germ, not only contributing to its own development towards self-consciousness but actually making it possible.
It is a gigantic working and weaving, with the threads in the cosmic loom, as it were, intermingling in a thousand ways. Yet in spite of all the lively individual activity there is such an absolutely logical interlocking with the reciprocal actions that the path of a single spirit-germ, right to its very end, appears to be part of a beautiful many-coloured carpet, deliberately formed by the hand of an artist. It is a path either leading upwards towards self-consciousness or descending to eventual annihilation in order to protect the others.
There are so many laws working silently but surely in the wonderful work of Creation that one could write an essay upon each of the thousand different processes in the life of man, but they would always lead back to the one great basic truth – the Perfection of the Creator as the Source of all that exists, Whose Will is the Living Creative Spirit. The Holy Spirit! All that is of spirit is Its Work!
As man originates in this work of spiritual substantiality he bears within himself a particle of the volition of this spirit. This, it is true, brings with it the freedom of decision and the responsibility attaching to it, but it is in no way the same as Divinity Itself, as is so often erroneously assumed and asserted.
Those who can survey with understanding every manifestation of the Divine Will, which through the Laws of Nature works to help and further Creation, will join in a wonderful harmonious hymn of praise, in one united feeling of gratitude and joy rising through millions of channels towards the Source!
The eternally recurring process of development in Creation, which brings about the consequent expulsion of the spirit-germ from Paradise at a certain stage of maturity, can also be seen with the physical eyes in all earthly happenings, because everywhere the process is reflected in the same way.
One could also call this expulsion, which is quite a natural development, the process of automatic release. It is exactly the same as a ripe apple or any other ripe fruit falling from a tree, so as to release the seed in the process of decomposition according to the Creative Will. Only then, under the outside influences brought to bear directly upon it, can it burst the covering, germinate and become a tender plant! The plant again can only develop resistance through exposure to rain, storm and sunshine and thus grow into a strong tree.
Thus the expulsion of the mature spirit-germ from Paradise is an inevitable result of development, in much the same way as the Animistic and Material Spheres, and finally the Gross Material World, are basically only a consequential development from the Sphere of Spiritual Substantiality! In this the fundamental characteristics of Original Creation continually repeat themselves, but with the necessary distinction that the manifestations always correspond to the essence and nature of the particular substance.
The expulsion of the soul also occurs in the World of Gross Matter as soon as its time of maturity has arrived. This is called physical death, and it is the automatic expulsion or severance of the soul from physical matter and its birth into ethereal matter. Here also one can liken the process to fruit falling from a tree. In calm weather only the ripe fruit fall, but during storms the unripe fruit also fall. The ripe fruit are those who pass over into the ethereal beyond at the right time and with their seeds inwardly matured. They are spiritually “ready” for the beyond, and therefore will quickly take root and be able to grow up securely!
The unripe fruit, however, are those whose fall or death, with the accompanying decay of the protecting physical body, lays bare the as yet unripe ethereal seeds, thus exposing them prematurely to all the influences, whereby they either have to perish or will be forced to complete their process of ripening before they can take root (adjust themselves) in the ethereal soil (conditions) and thus grow up.
And so development continually proceeds step by step unless in the meantime decay sets in and destroys the seeds insufficiently ripened. Such a seed is then lost and naturally with it the inherent possibility to become an independent fruit-bearing tree which, in its turn, can help to continue the process of development.
He who looks around attentively can often clearly observe this fundamental picture of all the happenings in Creation in his immediate vicinity, for in the most minute there is always mirrored a reflection of the greatest.
Next in order downwards from this Paradise of Spiritual Substantiality comes the Sphere of all Animistic Substantiality. This sphere is again divided into two parts. There is first conscious animistic substantiality, consisting of the elementals and nature-beings to which, as the last of many, belong the elves, gnomes, nixies, etc. These elementals and nature-beings were the necessary preparation for the further development towards the eventual creation of matter, for matter could only come into existence in unison with animistic substantiality.
The elementals and nature-beings had to co-operate creatively in the developing World of Matter just as they still do today!
Secondly, in the Sphere of Animistic Substantiality there exists unconscious animistic substantiality. From this issues the life of the animal soul.2 Here should be noted the difference between the Sphere of Spiritual Substantiality and the Sphere of Animistic Substantiality. Only that which is spirit bears within it from the very beginning onwards the power to make a free decision, and the resulting full responsibility. This is not the case with the beings of animistic substantiality!
A further result of the process of development was the creation of matter. This is divided into ethereal substance, in which there are many divisions, and gross material substance which, commencing with the finest nebulae, is visible to the physical eye. But there is no question of a Paradise on earth, as the earth is one of the furthest outposts of gross matter. The time will arrive when a reflection of the real Paradise must come on earth under the rule of the Son of Man at the beginning of the Millennium! Then at the same time there will be erected an earthly replica of the Grail Castle, the original of which stands on the highest heights of Creation as the hitherto only true Temple of God!

chiefsaif:
Am only contributing not because am denying or belittling what has been explained from the Holy Bible and I hope no offense will be taken. However, this is what was explained from the Qur'an about the Story of Habil (Abel) and Qabil (Cain)

It was recorded that during the time of Adam -- "The woman was not allowed in marriage for her male twin, but Adam was commanded to marry her to any of her other brothers. In each pregnancy, Adam was given a twin, a male and a female.

A beautiful daughter was once born for Adam and another one that was not beautiful. So the twin brother of the ugly daughter (Abel) said, `Marry your sister to me and I will marry my sister to you.' He (Cain) said, `No, for I have more right to my sister.' So they both offered a sacrifice.

The sacrifice of the one who offered the sheep was accepted while the sacrifice of the other (Cain), which consisted of some produce, was not accepted. So the latter killed his brother.''

"Cain held Abel by the head to kill him, so Abel laid down for him and Cain started twisting Abel's head, not knowing how to kill him. Shaytan came to Cain and said, `Do you want to kill him' He said, `Yes.' Shaytan said, `Take that stone and throw it on his head.' So Cain took the stone and threw it at his brother's head and smashed his head.

Shaytan then went to Eve in a hurry and said to her, `O Eve! Cain killed Abel.' She asked him, `Woe to you! What does `kill' mean' He said, `He will no longer eat, drink or move.' She said, `And that is death' He said, `Yes it is.'
So she started to weep until Adam came to her while she was weeping and said, `What is the matter with you' She did not answer him. He asked her two more times, but she did not answer him. So he said, `You and your daughters will inherit the practice of weeping, while I and my sons are free of it.''

"A madman who is silent is considered a wise
person, and he that keeps his lips silent is
considered intelligent." - Proverbs 17:28.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a
fool than speak and remove all doubt."

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If you ain't yet a pastor, @Sanchez01, you will eventually be one. I think I can be sure of that. People like you never failed to claim that their god called them to take up the mantle. And before you know what's happening, you have a large congregation of 'magas' (gullible ones) trooping after you and worshipping you - as we see around us every now and then. Luckily for you, you are already gathering your would-be flock right here on Nairaland - especially, the ladies. You know ladies are usually the first to fall for the eloquence of these 'gods of men' wrongly referred to as 'men of god'. As soon as the ladies begin to troop after you, then the men who need other men to think and plan their lives for them gradually join the train. Alas! You become 'our big daddy in the lord'. Money begins to roll in and you start to ride in a convoy of cars and modern-day slaves - men that worship other men.
That said. @Timmy2409, o ma raye o. You get time o. You don't make words with all these believers of fallacies now. They have deliberately deaden their reasoning ability so as to have unshakeable faith in the fallacies that the Jews and the Romans spread the world over - even though the ever malicious Jews that once sold those make up stories to them have long dumped them and advanced.
No matter how strong and glaring a fault you find in their religions, they will surely come up with more fallacies and inconsistencies to doggedly defend their god; especially, those ardent chtistians and muslims.
You read him saying their god had not established the law against incest when Cain slept with his sister(s). But afterwards, the same god established the law forbidding it. When he needed incest to populate his world it wasn't sinful. But it became 'transgressous' afterwards. And they will ever tell you their god is an unchanging god. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. O ti I, constant k ni, emi ni dy/dx now.
Since the day I realised that man's emotional nature strongly craves for something to establish itself upon and that this is the reason for his invention of religion, I have stopped arguing with religious people - especially, those adamant, fallacies-upholding christians and muslims. I have come to know that overtime they will wise up. Science and time will liberate them or more certainly, their offsprings generations to come from the stronghold of these intelligence-eroding religions.
Those that were around in the 70s till late 90s will remember how serious christians were with the issue of their lord's second coming. Every corner you find yourself in those days, it was the same message: repent, the coming of the lord is at hand. There were mighty billboards everywhere frightening us with the fallacy of the end of the world. At the turn of the century/millennium in 2000 and with their greatly expected lord not showing up, the message changed. What they are mostly telling us now is that their god isn't poor and so they should be among the wealthiest people on earth. So, those second coming proclaiming pastorsof yyesteryears have now become miracle working and businessmen pastors. You now see their own 'fineboy' pictures on billboards everywhere - they have replaced the rapture message on billboards in those days with their wealth-depicting pictures. Can't you see that their religion is evolving. Na so the thing go they metamorphose until the fallacious belief systems give way, inevitably, to the truth of ever advancing science. Just take a look at Israel now. Them don wake up now. They themselves have dumped the lies and mythologies they sold to a large part of the world. They now uphold science and technology with which they are now advancing.
I pity African man ehn. He go still suffer no be small. While the fallacy bringers are 'wising up', him dey there dey get himself entrenched more and more in lies from foreign lands. He calls the fallacies and myths his forefathers handed over to him evil but those from the white men are godly. E bi like say no be only him skin dey black, possibly him brain too dey black and small. Or, how will one explain this inferiority complex of Africans who after accepting Islam and Christianity begin to calll him own paganism and animism. Na dem sabi.
Abeg, all I know is that SCIENCE SHALL REIGN AND IT SHALL REIGN FOREVERMORE.

Where did Cain get his wife? The answer is simple: Cain married either his sister or a niece! Follow me with a learning/teachable heart and all your confusion will clear:

In Genesis 5:4 we see that Adam had other sons and daughters.

1. "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day when God created man, He made him in the likeness of God.
2He created them male and female, and He blessed them and named them Man in the day when they were created.
3When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth.
4Then the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years, and he had other sons and daughters.
5So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years, and he died," (Gen. 5:1-5).

Since Adam lived several hundred years, having lots of children was not a problem. The Genesis account does not tell us about the order of the births, nor does it tell us how old they were. It was the ancient custom to often extract relevant information (sometimes out of order) to emphasize a point. By having many children, it is certainly possible that there were many women around. This would mean that Cain married a sister, niece, or some other relation, and their children had children, etc. Of course at this point, the question of inbreeding is raised. It was not a problem early on in the human race because the genetic line was so pure. Therefore, the prohibition against incest was not proclaimed until much later (Lev. 18:6-18) when inbreeding started to become a problem. Of course there was no comparison of who is my close/distant relation as at the time UNLIKE NOW.