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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by tonychristopher: 8:49am On Mar 03, 2015
change9ja:
Now I confirmed how foolish I am

You said it all

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by owobokiri(m): 8:53am On Mar 03, 2015
chemali:


So what would you call Ogun state that raised IGR by 500% in the space of 2 years from 700m to 5billion? A neighbour of the former Nigeria political capital?

Kontrìman, Tax and spend is NOT inventive politics! You know that. But I agree that certain cultural settings permit the political elite the luxury of creating a tax regime that can bolster the revenue base of the authorities. In a place like Nigeria,what happens to the cash thereafter is anybodys guess. . If you are lucky, such cash can start off long bridges/metro lines that will be uncompleted till armagedon as it becomes a conduite pipe for greater kleptomania. If you are unlucky, it will buy some executive tin gods mansions in Dubai and London. Anambrra doesn't generate that much internally although a reasonable number of businesses thrive there. This has emboldened a lot of local investors to pitch tents thre. . It really depends on what you want.. if you want more money for the executives and their henchmen to play with, tax more. If you want more cash in the hands of an active business community, tax less. Yet, the calibration of a states Tax policy to arrive at any of this two ends shouldn't be made a propaganda tool in the hands of some overzealous politicians and their internet hirelings. I was forced to pay more doesn't really mean I am healthier.

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by change9ja(f): 9:05am On Mar 03, 2015
tonychristopher:


You said it all
madman b editing my post der

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by chemali: 9:11am On Mar 03, 2015
owobokiri:


Kontrìman, Tax and spend is NOT inventive politics! You know that. But I agree that certain cultural settings permit the political elite the luxury of creating a tax regime that can bolster the revenue base of the authorities. In a place like Nigeria,what happens to the cash thereafter is anybodys guess. . If you are lucky, such cash can start off long bridges/metro lines that will be uncompleted till armagedon as it becomes a conduite pipe for greater kleptomania. If you are unlucky, it will buy some executive tin gods mansions in Dubai and London. Anambrra doesn't generate that much internally although a reasonable number of businesses thrive there. This has emboldened a lot of local investors to pitch tents thre. . It really depends on what you want.. if you want more money for the executives and their henchmen to play with, tax more. If you want more cash in the hands of an active business community, tax less. Yet, the calibration of a states Tax policy to arrive at any of this two ends shouldn't be made a propaganda tool in the hands of some overzealous politicians and their iternet hireling. I was forced to pay more doesn't really mean I am healthier.

Now, you are elevating the discussion - not some hearsay gist! Tax has been paid from time immemorial. It is your obligation to pay and the government must be accountable to you. You are trying hard to make points for the sake of making them. What is supposed to complete the long bridges A zero tax regime? Or how do economies without natural resources function? With lots of uncompleted bridges?
Local investors pitched theirs tent in Anambra because there is a ready market. Investors pitching their tents there is not a consequence of Anambra's inefficient tax regime! The question you should ask yourself is will more investors pitch their tents if the government efficiently collects revenue and utilizes this in an accountable manner. The answer is obvious - yes!

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by diportivo: 9:42am On Mar 03, 2015
bros,pray...tell us when fashola sacked ambode.what year and the month.kindly come up with a beta reason than diversion of funds.beer parlour gists will take us nowhere in this country.if a high ranking official in the mould of the accountant general of a state is SACKED,surely,d whole world will know about it right?...just for the records i was at his retirement party in 2012.lets just leave it at that.i respect ur opinion,but please let us work wit facts
anonimi:


Why was Ambode sacked by Fashola if not for diverting IGR to Bourdillon




www.nairaland.com/attachments/2071670_amobodelagostreasuryintinubuspocket_jpeg76c650e7b4da72f386d60fc93b8843c5
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by hayoakins(m): 9:43am On Mar 03, 2015
barcanista:
My brother the said 6billion earned by Alpha Beta every month is what we are told. A Lagos Resident once petitioned Governor Fashola and invoked the Freedom of Information Act(signed by GEJ), asking Fashola to provide him invoices and documents with respect to what is paid to Alpha Beta. Governor Fashola replied him that he will NEVER supply him such infor, that the said FOI is not applicable to Lagos. We don't even know what "really" goes on in LASG. A new PDP government or FOI implementation will expose many things.

God Bless Lagos State

Though I am PRO-CHANGE at the National level but I indeed support a change of leadership philosophy in Lagos. We need to make Alausa seat more competitive and result driven and not any party/godfather's empire
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by owobokiri(m): 9:56am On Mar 03, 2015
chemali:


Now, you are elevating the discussion - not some hearsay gist! Tax has been paid from time immemorial. It is your obligation to pay and the government must be accountable to you. You are trying hard to make points for the sake of making them. What is supposed to complete the long bridges A zero tax regime? Or how do economies without natural resources function? With lots of uncompleted bridges?
Local investors pitched theirs tent in Anambra because there is a ready market. Investors pitching their tents there is not a consequence of Anambra's inefficient tax regime! The question you should ask yourself is will more investors pitch their tents if the government efficiently collects revenue and utilizes this in an accountable manner. The answer is obvious - yes!

Make no mistakes about it; I am with you on the very important need to pay taxes. States can't function without reveneu. Tax is the blood that pumps the engine of state. That is granted. Where we strikinly differ is as it regards the quantity/quality of taxes forced down the throats of a hapless citizenry in a highly corrupt clime like ours. Sexy argeuments not withstanding, tax policies here are not necessarily made to inject businesses with the steroids needed for greater indutrialisations . The argeument is that more tax reveneu will translate to better infastructure yet inspite of the massive earnings that accreu to Lagos coffers lately, base existence still prevails for over 95% majority while Tinubu and co change private jets with wreckles abandon. Essentially hardworking businesses and the poor are being taxed to subsidize the hedonistic lifestyle of one Tinubu and gang. Since a very corrupt system still subsists, is it not better to leave more cash in the hands of the investiing public and businesses? How did Tinubus company win the nod to collect taxes for lagos state state? Through public tender?

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by chemali: 10:12am On Mar 03, 2015
owobokiri:


Make no mistakes about it; I am with you on the very important need to pay taxes. States can't function without reveneu. Tax is the blood that pumps the engine of state. That is granted. Where we strikinly differ is as it regards the quantity/quality of taxes forced down the throats of a hapless citizenry in a highly corrupt clime like ours. Sexy argeuments not withstanding, tax policies here are not necessarily made to inject businesses with the steroids needed for greater indutrialisations . The argeument is that more tax reveneu will translate to better infastructure yet inspite of the massive earnings that accreu to Lagos coffers lately, base existence still prevails for over 95% majority while Tinubu and co change private jets with wreckles abandon. Essentially hardworking businesses and the poor are being taxed to subsidize the hedonistic lifestyle of one Tinubu and gang. Since a very corrupt system still subsists, is it not better to leave more cash in the hands of the investiing public and businesses? How did Tinubus company win the nod to collect taxes for lagos state state? Through public tender?

The question you should answer then is which of the taxes does the state has power to legislate over? This is in response to claiming that the taxes were forced down your throat. For example, the only tax I pay to the state is the PAYE which is governed by Federal laws, not state laws. Apart from taxes as it relates to land, I can't really think of any that is governed by state laws (the tolls that have been introduced on some highways is a form of tax though). Fashola has been governor for 8 years and there is still much to be done. Saying he hasn't achieved much is playing to the gallery. Let's assume he runs one of the most corrupt governments in Nigeria. Have you for once demanded that the EFCC, ICPC be strengthened to perform their constitutional function without interference from the FG? Tinubu stepped down 8 years ago and the only charge brought against him by a federally controlled anti-corruption agency was operation of foreign bank accounts he had prior to being in government. Is he so smart?
Leaving more cash in the arms of the investing public and businesses is an economic policy which has been employed in different countries. In Nigeria, it should be Federally driven not by Fashola or Tinubu but by the incapable FG. At least, despite the current hardship due to the devaluation of the naira, they intend to take more from the public by raising VAT to 10% after the elections. They took more by implementing a drivers license and plate number regime that benefits no one as you get a license still by paying bribes. They took more by raising the prices of petroleum products while funneling the subsidies to line their pockets. They took more by raising the taxes paid by the high income earners... Channel your aggression elsewhere

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by mikolo80: 10:53am On Mar 03, 2015
barcanista:
My brother the said 6billion earned by Alpha Beta every month is what we are told. A Lagos Resident once petitioned Governor Fashola and invoked the Freedom of Information Act(signed by GEJ), asking Fashola to provide him invoices and documents with respect to what is paid to Alpha Beta. Governor Fashola replied him that he will NEVER supply him such infor, that the said FOI is not applicable to Lagos. We don't even know what "really" goes on in LASG. A new PDP government or FOI implementation will expose many things.

God Bless Lagos State
nothing will expose they will just pocket everything as opposed to the 10 % that fashola is using to do one eyed king of the blind
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by integralng: 1:26pm On Mar 03, 2015
tonychristopher:



WHY IS IT THAT YORUBAS ARE THIS LOUD

A WORLD CLASS COMPANY ...HMMM NAWA WHERE IS ALPHA BETA OPERATION OUTSIDE AFRICA THAT GAVE IT WORLD CLASS STATUS ...PLS TELL US



SOMEBODY IS MESSING YOU UP STEALING YOUR MONEY AND HAVING THEIR CRONIES YET YOUR HERE TALKING


WHY DO YOU PEOPLE LACK INDEPENDENT THINKING

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE EN-JOY SERVITUDE



SUCH A FLICK FLOCK MENTALITY



OK WORLD CLASS DEY GO


ALPHA BETA IS NOW LIRS
AlphaBeta consult for multinational companies and they also have a physical presence in Ghana.They are world class because their staff and services match that of other well-known companies...

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by tonychristopher: 1:31pm On Mar 03, 2015
integralng:
AlphaBeta consult for multinational companies and they also have a physical presence in Ghana.They are world class because their staff and services match that of other well-known companies...

if you sell dog to buy monkey you have not made much impact cos you still ended up with an animal that squats


i asked you a simple clear question

you said your alpha beta or what is WORLD CLASS


tell me where they have operational base outside AFRICA? I was clear on that




See Ghana See Nigeria


My company has branches in Ghana, Sierra Leone even Gambia but I dare not call it world class, I be BMW or Microsoft


So tell me what made your so called ALPHA BETA World class ?
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by meforyou1(m): 1:34pm On Mar 03, 2015
Jimi Agbaje must rule lagos and expose that drug warlord, common criminal

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by adaweezy(m): 2:12pm On Mar 03, 2015
owobokiri:


This is the most dubious logic I have come across in a long time. The way you lot defend your own no matter how dirty his dealings is unparalleled. So because Tinubus company helped increase Lagos state IGR, the petty robber should be glorified for trying to siphon every thing in sight? You guys are pathetic.
According to the FIRS act a tax consultant is legal and can be hired by the SIRS or FIRS.....
they will never replace a tax board because only the govt has the right to obtain taxes.....
A govt can use consultants to enable it generate more income from taxes but not more than a certain amount should be paid as royalty......

This argument is very interesting and educational
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by adaweezy(m): 2:22pm On Mar 03, 2015
[s]
meforyou1:
Jimi Agbaje must rule lagos and expose that drug warlord, common criminal
[/s]
shut up and face the topic
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by hanbaliola(m): 8:00pm On Mar 03, 2015
One thing that is proper and normal now is for Lagos State to come out transparently and give proper accountability.
How the tax has been collected and how it has been used, Staff under Lagos State Government need to know exactly, the breakdown of their salary. And considering the Lagos IGR nothing stop Lagos State to pay their Staff the same thing applicable at the Federal level.
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by Curlieweed: 8:11pm On Mar 03, 2015
owobokiri:


Kontrìman, Tax and spend is NOT inventive politics! You know that. But I agree that certain cultural settings permit the political elite the luxury of creating a tax regime that can bolster the revenue base of the authorities. In a place like Nigeria,what happens to the cash thereafter is anybodys guess. . If you are lucky, such cash can start off long bridges/metro lines that will be uncompleted till armagedon as it becomes a conduite pipe for greater kleptomania. If you are unlucky, it will buy some executive tin gods mansions in Dubai and London. Anambrra doesn't generate that much internally although a reasonable number of businesses thrive there. This has emboldened a lot of local investors to pitch tents thre. . It really depends on what you want.. if you want more money for the executives and their henchmen to play with, tax more. If you want more cash in the hands of an active business community, tax less. Yet, the calibration of a states Tax policy to arrive at any of this two ends shouldn't be made a propaganda tool in the hands of some overzealous politicians and their internet hirelings. I was forced to pay more doesn't really mean I am healthier.


Thank yo, thank you, thank you!

Preach it, bro!

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Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by jimmayoy: 8:28pm On Mar 03, 2015
tonychristopher:



WHY IS IT THAT YORUBAS ARE THIS LOUD

A WORLD CLASS COMPANY ...HMMM NAWA WHERE IS ALPHA BETA OPERATION OUTSIDE AFRICA THAT GAVE IT WORLD CLASS STATUS ...PLS TELL US



SOMEBODY IS MESSING YOU UP STEALING YOUR MONEY AND HAVING THEIR CRONIES YET YOUR HERE TALKING


WHY DO YOU PEOPLE LACK INDEPENDENT THINKING

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE EN-JOY SERVITUDE



SUCH A FLICK FLOCK MENTALITY



OK WORLD CLASS DEY GO


ALPHA BETA IS NOW LIRS

Guy no need to be angry,you just have to do a lot more to counter what the guy said,what he wrote is a masterpiece,impeccable.
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by integralng: 6:54am On Mar 04, 2015
tonychristopher:


if you sell dog to buy monkey you have not made much impact cos you still ended up with an animal that squats


i asked you a simple clear question

you said your alpha beta or what is WORLD CLASS


tell me where they have operational base outside AFRICA? I was clear on that




See Ghana See Nigeria


My company has branches in Ghana, Sierra Leone even Gambia but I dare not call it world class, I be BMW or Microsoft


So tell me what made your so called ALPHA BETA World class ?
stop showing your ignorance and idiocy here.Check your dictionary to find out the meaning of 'Worldclass.'
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by taharqa: 7:31am On Mar 04, 2015
ayuse:
Nigerians should not allow themselves to be fooled by propagandal. FIRS takes 10% of what they generate as running cost. Last year FIRS generated about 5trillion naira. Does it mean that 10% of 5T is a dash to FIRS? Only 60% of crude oil earning goes to Nigeria, the remaining 40% goes to d company exploring d crude for Nigeria, does it mean d 40% is a dash to those companies? B4 alpha beta, Lagos IGR was less than a billion, today alpha beta has done a good job to make Lagos IGR what it is. Lagos is the only state in Nigeria that can survive without federal allocation all bc of the hard work of the same man being blackmailed. Even FIRS had to learn from Lagos inorder to increase Nigeria IGR. Some other states who had learned from Lagos has increased their IGR. Rather than blackmail we could ask for accountability. I even blv Nigerians should ask other Nigerian states to learn from Lagos how to increase their IGR. Lets not destroy our Nation with the campaign of hatred bc of politics.

Did you just say that FIRS keeps 10% of the money they collect as tax for themselves as RUNNING cos?? Dear Gad!!!
So from the 5trillion naira they collected last year (according to you), you mean they kept 500billion naira as running costs- to pay salaries, do trainings, flex, etc??

Even the devil, the father of all LIAR, dey fear una for that party APC
Re: Tax In Lagos, On AIT by owobokiri(m): 6:49am On Mar 05, 2015
PointB:
Whether N29 Billion or N40 Billion, the more pressing question, beyond the planting and watering of flowers, what else is the evidence of judicious use of the money?>

Does Lagos state look like a state benefiting from such income? Where is our money jagagban and fashole?

And that's where the rub is; for all the massive income, in comparative/relative terms, Lagos state is lacking behind interms of any serious infastructural developments. It has been more talk , little action. You can look at states such as Akwa ibom and see the numerous signature projects bequethed to the people by one Akpabio, even if you don't agree with his preferences, but in Lagos what do you see? An adminisstrative bimbo, bereft of any inventive administrative skills, totally starved of vision busy utilizing propoganda to burnish a non existent aministrative pedigree.. Lagos deserves better! Unfortunately, the bar has been so steeped into the mud, that every crafty cheif executive can quite easily outsmart his way to the status of an "action governor". , based on phantom projects and a well oiled media team. And so for bulldozing Oshodi, fashola becomes our new "Mr Fix it". , the massive lopsidedness between heavy income and meager output not withstanding. This is a state where there is a yearning need for more contructions . . , where are the housning estates, the industrial estates, the modern schools, the under-ground metro lines, or modern road networks inpired by the much vaunted APC/Tinubu/Fashola coherent economcic blueprint? Praising a politician because he was bold enough to deploy series of ruthless measures to balloon his tax reveneu without expending any sort of energy to question his whimsical utilization of states reveneu for personal aggrandizement, is nothing but a criminally minded way to approach politics.

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