ojaydedon:


true... Opposing gej at all cost..

Continue ignoring oh...

I can see their CHANGE is synonymous to HATE/BITTERNESS/NEGATIVISM

NIGERIANS DONT WANT THAT...

barcanista:
Actually, my experience in that camp isn't one I will wish my enemy. Whenever I disagree on some issues, some of them tag me mole. In fact, the de facto rule is "Never criticise APC, always agree and always oppose GEJ/PDP" or face our wrath. Well, it is past now... I'm so glad to return to the umbrella. As for insults from some of them, it isn't a new thing. I will continie to ignore

barcanista:
My boss, you should be rest assured that ignoring whoever that devices insult to drive home his/her point is my thing. Funny enough, the same person that has been insulting me(and I kept ignoring) is the same person asking me to honor him with a debate. Who is a fool?

barcanista:
I thought you said you are "unfollowing" the thread? Or you were expecting me to reply you? Let me repeat myself, I won't honor anybody that insult me. Not with response or attention. You notice that I don't tag some of you on my thread. If you come to thread and contribute, fine. If you come to derail or insult, I will ignore. I'm replying you because I still have little respect for you...

Obiagelli:
PassingShot, did my dear barcanista accept the debate yet? That's my only interest here, i will help facilitate.

Barcanista please don't disappoint

Kola4uniadgog:



Mr barcanista, why did you leave the camp of the APC?

barcanista:
That's À long story my guy. But I can't support a party thÀt is shouting change but refuses to embrÀce democratic change. The change is merÉ rhetoric.

Ás for the "so-called" unrealistic debate, its funny because not only that it lacks direction, I can't debate with anybody that has been insulting me and spamming me. Hence, I totally ignored.

barcanista:
1. CAMPAIGN FUNDING: Moneybags or The Masses?
Muhammadu Buhari said in Dec 24, 2014 that no moneybag will fund his campaign, but the masses will. He said he wouldn't want anybody to hijack his government IF elected. In his own words “My strength mainly are the ordinary people. N100 is plenty of money for them and I know that they are going to make the sacrifice required for the change we are looking for, especially when I made them a promise to be transparent and personally be responsible for the money. I depend on them and we are taking this idea mainly from what happened in the United States of America.
“When he came with this idea, he was able to finance his campaign without looking for money bags or anybody influential and so, he remained independent and was hostage to nobody. This is what I want to achieve.”

However, on the 7th of January 2015, it was reported that exVice President Atiku Abubakar(who was indicted by the Senate for diverting funds meant for the PTDF in 2007) donated N50 million, an aircraft and 12 Land Cruiser Sports Utility Vehicles to Buhari’s campaign
www.thisdaylive.com/articles/the-atiku-they-didn-8217-t-know/198587/

Same January 7th, It was also reported that Imo State Governor Owelle Rochas Okorocha donated Presidential campaign bus that is valued to N50million to Buhari Campaign.

Is it that Buhari has finally surrendered to the moneybags or he has been clipped by these moneybags and his campaign hijacked by these men?

2. CORRUPT OFFICIALS PROBE: Compromised or Clipped?
In 2012 while speaking with SaharaTV, Buhari decried the level of corruption and scams going on since 1999, specifically the the $6.8 billion dollars fuel subsidy fraud, the N155 billion Malabu oil block scam, and the N36.8 billion police pension scheme. He advocated for government to prosecute, arrest and execute indicted officials based on documentary evidence. In his firm and assertive manner, he said
“Just use the documentary evidence and prosecute them and jail them or shoot them.”
saharareporters.com/2012/06/06/prosecute-them-and-jail-them-or-shoot-them-says-gen-buhari-saharatv

Buhari since 2003 has made it clear that he's coming to rid the system off corruption and bring perpetrators to justice. This is one attribute of his that even his detractors admired. We were shocked to the bones when John Oyegun on December 29, 2014 said that the APC and Buhari has agreed "Not to probe the past". More shocking was Buhari's speech in London on Feb 26, when he said he won't probe the past (thecityreporters.com/i-wont-probe-past-nigerian-leaders-buhari/ ). One begins to wonder whether Muhammadu Buhari has given up on the probe of former thieves so as not to offend the cabals within his party or he has been clipped by the "cabals" within his party who knows that probing the past will send them to jail. If Buhari insist on not probing the past, then he has to apologise to Second Republic Politicians that he visited their sins when he came onboard. He also has no business in Aso Rock as the incumbent is also focusing on the present(which he plan to do).

3. OFFICE OF THE FIRST LADY: To Be or Not To Be?
On December 26,2014, Buhari specifically said in Kaduna that there will be NO Office of the First Lady if elected. He said the Ministry of Women Affairs will be allowed to play such role. He was very emphatic, which I believe was in tandem with our constitution. However, we are witnessing a turn around where his wife Mrs Aisha Buhari has been touring the country campaigning for her husband. Mrs Aisha in a speech on January 24, 2015 said “If the office of the first lady is constitutionally recognised, he will not tamper with it, but if it is not, that’s okay.". (www.punchng.com/news/buhari-wont-scrap-first-ladys-office-wife/ ). One begins to wonder whether Mrs Buhari doesn't know that the office is unconstitutional and the "IF" in her statement is not even in contention or Is it that Gen Buhari has changed his mind with respect to the office(which I insist is unconstitutional).

4. POST ELECTION: The Court or Lawlessness?
In 2003 Gen Buhari the candidate of ANPP spent 20 months in court challenging the fraudulent election result as announced by Obasanjo(navigator) INEC. In 2007 Gen Buhari also went to court to challenge the election of Musa Yardua even against the wish of his party that decided to join the Yaradua Government of National Unity(the Oyegun group). Buhari contested and challenged the result of President Jonathan as the CPC candidate. He lost yet he had his head high because he followed through democratic means. Sadly, as candidate of the APC, his party through its Chairman and Campaign D-G vowed to form "Alternative Government" if by their own judgement the Presidential election was rigged. They also specifically said they won't go to court to challenge the result. In other words they are ready to burn the country and cause chaos rather than take the "evidence" to court(if any).
Is it that General Buhari is tired of following constitutional process or he has been totally hijacked by his Associates? Will Buhari tolerate such a threat from any quarter if he was the incumbent?

BONUS:
5. PASTOR BRIBE: Amaechi(APC) or GEJ(PDP)
Earlier in February Amaechi accused PDP(GEJ) of bribing Pastors with N6 billion. However, he was challenged by Pastor Adeboye of RCCG to mention names but till today he has gone mute.
On the other hand, Bishop Emmah Isong, Chairman, Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria (PFN) in Cross River State accused Amaechi of bribing 500 Pastors in Hotel Presidential, Rivers state. He challenged Amaechi to refute the allegation but till today Amaechi didn't deny.
www.naij.com/382942-amaechi-paid-500-pastors-to-campaign-for-buhari-bishop-isong.html
If Amaechi is very sure of his allegation against the PDP, why is he mute on alleged receivers of the bribe? Is Amaechi guilty of bribing the Pastors as alleged by the PFN Chief?

barcanista:
That's À long story my guy. But I can't support a party thÀt is shouting change but refuses to embrÀce democratic change. The change is merÉ rhetoric.

Ás for the "so-called" unrealistic debate, its funny because not only that it lacks direction, I can't debate with anybody that has been insulting me and spamming me. Hence, I totally ignored.

Kola4uniadgog:


You are right bro, debate with only people who show maturity in dissecting issues. Don't debate with people that always resort to insults and personal attacks to drive home their point that is if there is any point in the first place. I changed to the APC too for some days, but came back cos I discovered 99.9 percent of what I thought was true was actually media propaganda. Anything built on lies will not stand. Stand for what is right. You are not a kid so u know what is best for you. How you see things has nothing to do with how others see them. If they want a debate, they can have it, but they will have to follow the rules of the game.

barcanista:
Well, Ì have always availed myself to discuss issues for the good of thÉ country. But I won't denigrate myself to pay attention to people that has taken insults and names calling for trademark. As for the emboldened, I have no choice but to agree with you. Thanks and enjoy the nyt

barcanista:
Well, Ì have always availed myself to discuss issues for the good of thÉ country. But I won't denigrate myself to pay attention to people that has taken insults and names calling for trademark. As for the emboldened, I have no choice but to agree with you. Thanks and enjoy the nyt

Iykopee:
Barcanista dont mind these angry goats raining insults on you. That's their stock in trade. They responded to the issues u raised selectively while throwing up tantrums to register their grievances on u since u left their devilish camp.

OrlandoOwoh:

The OP is the one that responds selectively.

aresa:


He won't defend his posts when challenged with opposing views, he basically hid behind friendly posts supporting his warped views. What a coward.

OrlandoOwoh:

He is always quick to term any comment from a "foe" that exposes him, an insult, and as a result ignores it.

barcanista:
Well, Ì have always availed myself to discuss issues for the good of thÉ country. But I won't denigrate myself to pay attention to people that has taken insults and names calling for trademark. As for the emboldened, I have no choice but to agree with you. Thanks and enjoy the nyt

aresa:


It's a fraudulent excuse to dodge debate or discussion.

Dude is a scammer...

lowgeorge:
Get out of here common bandit.... U dimwit.... As in u re nothing but a sore loser I swear attimes I wonder why am an African sef cos majority of Africans tend to think like mad Men not to talk of there so called banished to Greece Walhai... hungry lion

koboko69:


As progressivees dey comment for this mumu boy threads...e dey pepper my body. Make una leave am to dey fool himself na. I am sure he feels stupi.d himself....he is just playing the tough guy.

lowgeorge:
Get out of here common bandit.... U dimwit.... As in u re nothing but a sore loser I swear attimes I wonder why am an African sef cos majority of Africans tend to think like mad Men not to talk of there so called enlightened ones... Imagine dis silly goat dat has been on buhari with inexhaustible facts figures memorabilia quotes mementoes track record and visible metamorphosis of d old man into a new entity of a changed perspective... Instead u jump to d quick forgotten men of the world whose name is nothing but dust according to their precedents just for some few wads of cash.... Tell me how much were u given 10 million or 5 million to throw away your identity? If you were those Hong Kong protest organisers na so u go betray those kind of believers cos of d evolution of hunger gamut that has striked ur ephemeral mode of intellect..... I wish u can be banished to Greece Walhai... hungry lion

PassingShot:
Dear Barcanista, please let the following message sink in your brain:

1. All the adjectives (you call them insults) that I have used on your posts are random ones you have equally used on some others' posts on this forum. I don't think I have gone over the boundary to discredit your posts.

2. It will be a plain act of idiocy for you to expect that when you open a thread to condemn APC/GMB, their supporters will look the other way and pretend they don't see you. If you would like to avoid being noticed or "attacked", then desist from creating threads to attack APC/GMB. You don't go create fallacious threads and expect people to look by while you have a field day with your colleagues in TAN. Looking you guys on has a danger of confusing some other "fence sitters" and naïve members here.

3. We "follow" one another for the purpose of monitoring what each and everyone of "followers" and "following" does here. So when I come to your thread or your post, it is not stalking or spamming. It is the natural law at work.

4. My challenging you to a debate on national issues is just to showcase our self acclaimed patriotism to the forum members. after all, you have called out TANists for such debate in the past which I think was not accepted by them. So, I am only helping you to achieve that desire of yours.

5. Using insults as an excuse to dodge a debate is too cheap of you. One way or the other, most members of this forum (including you) are guilty of having thrown insults (real or disguised) to some other members. So what the fvck?

6. The real reason you're not accepting the debate offer is the same reason TANists rejected your offer the other time: PDP/GEJ have no unique selling points (USP). They are bad products to market to any sane person. The task is most difficult for you barcanista to undertake because of your past which will forever hunt you.

"A product that will not sell at all without advertising, will not sell well with advertising". This is what GEJ/PDP represent, a very bad product.

Take care.

Passingshot

GeneralBosco:
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Since you're now making it a very childish game of questions - "APC did this", "PDP did this too", this particular "game level" is flawed!!

Amaechi accused Jonathan of giving pastors 7billion naira in bribe. Has Jonathan refuted this claim?? NO!!
Is Jonathan guilty of giving pastors 7 billion bribe as alleged by Amaechi??

fitzmayowa:
And the barcanista "decampment" saga continues...Maybe we need PointB to write about the tribulations of barcanista Chapter One verse 1 - 20...

PassingShot:

2. It will be a plain act of idiocy for you to expect that when you open a thread to condemn APC/GMB, their supporters will look the other way and pretend they don't see you. If you would like to avoid being noticed or "attacked", then desist from creating threads to attack APC/GMB. You don't go create fallacious threads and expect people to look by while you have a field day with your colleagues in TAN. Looking you guys on has a danger of confusing some other "fence sitters" and naïve members here.

torkaka:


. . . . . . . . . .1000Likes . . . . . . . . .I for one will always counter the hypocrite whether he likes it or not . . . . . . . . . . . .he thinks his post(s) have and aura of intelligence whereas in actual fact, there are just connected lines from a paid mongrel trying to distort facts . . . . . . . . . . . how someone puts so much importance on a nairaland moniker beats my imagination . . . . . . . . . . .so you decamped? so what? sell your candidate with valid points, instead he goes about like a wounded dog crying APC this, GMB that, APC supporters this, Amaechi that etc, opening thread after thread attacking APC yet runs away when his bluff is called . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .instead of opening threads like "Buhari and matters arising" why not open one like "GEJ and matters arising" and tell us point by point why you thought he was clueless in the past, why you thought he had done nothing in years and why now think his F9 performance is now A1!!