Ajuran:



Bantus only came to Somalia to get paid. Turkey has build airports hospitals, and Arabs have donated billions for military and education.

Somalia's fate has been sealed long ago. It will always be against Bantus. If we killed Bantus and elsaved them in Somalia, what makes you

think we would blindly follow AU (Bantu) policies that help them?

Sounds like some white and Arab butt-kissing here

Fulaman198:


Sounds like some white and Arab butt-kissing here

Take it as you will. The history of Somalia speaks for itself.

Ajuran:



Take it as you will. The history of Somalia speaks for itself.

What you said whilst I laugh in Fulfulde is no different from Bantus and West Africans kissing British or French Arse.

Fulaman198:


What you said whilst I laugh in Fulfulde is no different from Bantus and West Africans kissing British or French Arse.

The only history Bantus have with french and others is through slavery and colonization. The relation Somalis have with Arabs is through trade, spreading Islam, alliances in fighting Portugal, Ethiopia, and now Foreigners inside Somalia. Saying Somali politics is more aligned with arab world view than the Bantu christian world view is not buttt kissing.

Fulaman198:


Sounds like some white and Arab butt-kissing here

It is!

Ajuran:

The only history Bantus have with french and others is through slavery and colonization. The relation Somalis have with Arabs is through trade, spreading Islam, alliances in fighting Portugal, Ethiopia, and now Foreigners inside Somalia. Saying Somali politics is more aligned with arab world view than the Bantu christian world view is not buttt kissing.

Heaven help Somalia! You want to aligned with men that help spread and can't contain Islamo-fascism. You're nothing more than an arab bootlicker!

Ajuran, certainly you can't overlook actions like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQNcDoypCs

This is why I think Africans regardless of region are a joke. They love to take abuse despite those nations not respecting them.

Not all Africans.

Fulaman198:
Ajuran, certainly you can't overlook actions like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQNcDoypCs

This is why I think Africans regardless of region are a joke. They love to take abuse despite those nations not respecting them.

I partially agree. However some of the Nigerians and Ghanaians in England certainly don't take sh1t from anybody!

Ajuran:



The only history Bantus have with french and others is through slavery and colonization. The relation Somalis have with Arabs is through trade, spreading Islam, alliances in fighting Portugal, Ethiopia, and now Foreigners inside Somalia. Saying Somali politics is more aligned with arab world view than the Bantu christian world view is not buttt kissing.

Is that why you feel the need to fabricate history? I am still waiting for your confirmation on that giraffe gift to the Chinese emperor.The fact that you need to steal other peoples history speaks volumes.Your culture(nomads), did not facilitate trade, any worthy settlements, lasting legacies etc.To date your people are still lost in a modern globalised world.Just hang yourself if the facts are too damning.lol

BlackKenichi:

I partially agree. However some of the Nigerians and Ghanaians in England certainly don't take sh1t from anybody!

Are you sure they don't pretend to be British?

Fulaman198:


Are you sure they don't pretend to be British?

I don't know. All I know is some of them won't hesitate to fight back!

BlackKenichi:

I don't know. All I know is some of them won't hesitate to fight back!

That's good to know

Fulaman198:


That's good to know

So you think every single Nigerian or Ghanaian in the uK wants to be British?

scholes0:


So you think every single Nigerian or Ghanaian in the uK wants to be British?

I would hope not

gallivant:


Is that why you feel the need to fabricate history? I am still waiting for your confirmation on that giraffe gift to the Chinese emperor.The fact that you need to steal other peoples history speaks volumes.Your culture(nomads), did not facilitate trade, any worthy settlements, lasting legacies etc.To date your people are still lost in a modern globalised world.Just hang yourself if the facts are too damning.lol

The giraffe was between you and artank not me. As for trade, Somali history itself can be summed up with the word Trade.

Maritime history of Somalia refers to the seafaring tradition of the Somali people.[1] It includes various stages of Somali navigational technology, shipbuilding and design, as well as the history of the Somali port cities. It also covers the historical sea routes taken by Somali sailors which sustained the commercial enterprises of the historical Somali kingdoms and empires, in addition to the contemporary maritime culture of Somalia.

In antiquity, the ancestors of the Somali people were an important link in the Horn of Africa connecting the region's commerce with the rest of the ancient world. Somali sailors and merchants were the main suppliers of frankincense, myrrh and spices, items which were considered valuable luxuries by the Ancient Egyptians, Phoenicians, Mycenaeans and Babylonians.[2][3] During the classical era, several ancient city-states such as Opone, Mosylon and Malao that competed with the Sabaeans, Parthians and Axumites for the wealthy Indo-Greco-Roman trade also flourished in Somalia.[4] In the Middle Ages, several powerful Somali empires dominated the regional trade including the Ajuran Sultanate, the latter of which maintained profitable maritime contacts with Arabia, India, Venetia,[5] Persia, Egypt, Portugal and as far away as China. This tradition of seaborne trade was maintained in the early modern period by later Somali states such as the Gobroon Dynasty.


In ancient times, the Kingdom of Punt, situated in the area of modern-day Somalia, had a steady trade link with the Ancient Egyptians and exported precious natural resources such as myrrh, frankincense and gum. This trade network continued all the way into the classical era. The city states of Mossylon, Malao, Mundus and Tabae in Somalia engaged in a lucrative trade network connecting Somali merchants with Phoenicia, Ptolemic Egypt, Greece, Parthian Persia, Saba, Nabataea and the Roman Empire. Somali sailors used the ancient Somali maritime vessel known as the beden to transport their cargo.

After the Roman conquest of the Nabataean Empire and the Roman naval presence at Aden to curb piracy, Arab and Somali merchants barred Indian merchants from trading in the free port cities of the Arabian peninsula[6] because of the nearby Roman presence. However, they continued to trade in the port cities of the Somali peninsula, which was free from any Roman threat or spies. The reason for barring Indian ships from entering the wealthy Arabian port cities was to protect and hide the exploitative trade practices of the Somali and Arab merchants in the extremely lucrative ancient Red Sea-Mediterranean Sea commerce.[7] The Indian merchants for centuries brought large quantities of cinnamon from Ceylon and the Far East to Somalia and Arabia. This is said to have been the best kept secret of the Arab and Somali merchants in their trade with the Roman and Greek world. The Romans and Greeks believed the source of cinnamon to have been the Somali peninsula but in reality, the highly valued product was brought to Somalia by way of Indian ships.[8] Through Somali and Arab traders, Indian/Chinese cinnamon was also exported for far higher prices to North Africa, the Near East and Europe, [/b]which made the cinnamon trade a very profitable revenue generator, especially for the Somali merchants through whose hands large quantities were shipped across ancient sea and land routes.

Somali sailors were aware of the region's monsoons, and used them to link themselves with the port cities of the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea. They also developed an understandable way of defining the islands of the Indian Ocean in their navigational reach. They would name archipelagos or groups of islands after the most important island there, from the Somali point of view.[9]

[b]During the Age of the Ajurans, the sultanates and republics of Merca, Mogadishu, Barawa, Hobyo and their respective ports flourished and had a lucrative foreign commerce with ships sailing to Arabia, India, Venetia,[5] Persia, Egypt, Portugal and as far away as China.

In the 16th century, Duarte Barbosa noted that many ships from the Kingdom of Cambaya in India sailed to Mogadishu with fabric and spices, for which they in return received gold, wax and ivory. Mogadishu, the center of a thriving weaving industry known as toob benadir (specialized for the markets in Egypt and Syria[11]), together with Merca and Barawa also served as transit stops for Swahili merchants from Mombasa and Malindi and for the gold trade from Kilwa.[12] Trade with the Hormuz went both ways, and Jewish merchants brought their Indian textile and fruit to the Somali coast in exchange for grain and wood.[13] Trading relations were established with Malacca in the 15th century,[14] with cloth, ambergris and porcelain being the main commodities exchanged.[15] Giraffes, zebras and incense were exported to the Ming Empire of China, which established Somali merchants as leaders in the commerce between the Asia and Africa,[16] and in the process influenced the Chinese language with the Somali language and vice versa. Hindu merchants from Surat and Southeast African merchants from Pate, seeking to bypass both the Portuguese blockade and Omani meddling, used the Somali ports of Merca and Barawa (which were out of the two powers' jurisdiction) to conduct their trade in safety and without interference.[17]

During the same period, Somali merchants sailed to Cairo, Damascus, Mocha, Mombasa, Aden, Madagascar, Hyderabad and the islands of the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea, establishing Somali communities along the way. These travels produced several important individuals such as the Muslim scholars Uthman bin Ali Zayla'i in Egypt, Abd al-Aziz of Mogadishu in the Maldives, as well as the explorer Sa'id of Mogadishu, the latter of whom traveled across the Muslim world and visited China and India in t


In ancient times, naval engagements between buccaneers and merchant ships were very common in the Gulf of Aden. In the late medieval period, Somali navies regularly engaged their Portuguese counterparts at sea, the latter of whom were naturally attracted by the commercial reputation of the Somali coast. These tensions significantly worsened during the 16th century.


In 1660, the Portuguese in Mombasa surrendered to a joint Somali-Omani force.[[b][/b]22]
Over the next several decades Somali-Portuguese tensions would remain high and the increased contact between Somali sailors and Ottoman corsairs worried the Portuguese, prompting the latter to send a punitive expedition against Mogadishu under Joao de Sepuvelda. The expedition was unsuccessful.[23] Ottoman-Somali cooperation against the Portuguese in the Indian Ocean reached an apogee in the 1580s, when Ajuran clients of the Somali coastal cities began to sympathize with the Arabs and Swahilis under Portuguese rule and sent an envoy to the Turkish corsair Mir Ali Bey for a joint expedition against the Portuguese. Bey agreed and was joined by a Somali fleet, which began attacking Portuguese colonies in Southeast Africa.[24] The Somali-Ottoman offensive managed to drive out the Portuguese from several important cities such as Pate, Mombasa and Kilwa. However, the Portuguese governor sent envoys to India requesting a large Portuguese fleet. This request was answered and it reversed the previous offensive of the Muslims into one of defense. The Portuguese armada managed to re-take most of the lost cities and began punishing their leaders. However, they refrained from attacking Mogadishu.[25]

The Dervish navy in the early modern period served as a reconnaissance unit in the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean, spying on the British in Arabia.

During the post-independence period, the Somali Navy mostly did maritime patrols so as to prevent ships from illegally infringing on the nation's maritime borders. The Somali Navy and Somali Air Force also regularly collaborated as a deterrent against the Imperial Navy of Ethiopia. In addition, the Somali Navy carried out Search and Rescue (SAR) missions. The National Navy participated in many navy exercises with the United States Navy, the Royal British Navy and the Royal Canadian Navy in the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.

Fulaman198:
Ajuran, certainly you can't overlook actions like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQNcDoypCs

This is why I think Africans regardless of region are a joke. They love to take abuse despite those nations not respecting them.

Criminals are everywhere. Look at the Negroids in South Africa who loot Somali shops, and even stoned a Somali shop owner to death. Criminals are everywhere. Somalis see everyone the same, for some reason Bantus get upset when non blacks kill them, but a crime is a crime no matter who perpetrates it. Ethiopian women are treated just as worse in their own country by some men, why the outrage when the man is not ethiopian?

Ajuran:



Criminals are everywhere. Look at the Negroids in South Africa who loot Somali shops, and even stoned a Somali shop owner to death. Criminals are everywhere. Somalis see everyone the same, for some reason Bantus get upset when non blacks kill them, but a crime is a crime no matter who perpetrates it. Ethiopian women are treated just as worse in their own country by some men, why the outrage when the man is not ethiopian?

Certainly your eyes can't be this closed. There are several videos of how poor Ethiopian women are mistreated at the hands of perverts when they go to the middle East. They are treated with no respect whatsoever.

South Africa was a peaceful place before whites came there and forced the country into what it is today. They had their own culture of Zulus, Xhosa, etc etc..

I actually feel sorry for South African people because they were stripped of a lot of things. The thing is the whites never even apologised for what they did. Yet, whites apologised to the Japanese for World War 2, and Jews for World war 2 as well.

Fulaman198:


Certainly your eyes can't be this closed. There are several videos of how poor Ethiopian women are mistreated at the hands of perverts when they go to the middle East. They are treated with no respect whatsoever.

South Africa was a peaceful place before whites came there and forced the country into what it is today. They had their own culture of Zulus, Xhosa, etc etc..

I actually feel sorry for South African people because they were stripped of a lot of things. The thing is the whites never even apologised for what they did. Yet, whites apologised to the Japanese for World War 2, and Jews for World war 2 as well.

People like you only focus on the angle of race and not on socio economic privilege and the power dynamics involved between house maids and their employers who hold their passports. Such things have happened to filipino, indian, pakistani, and indonesian women every year.

Ajuran:



People like you only focus on the angle of race and not on socio economic privilege and the power dynamics involved between house maids and their employers who hold their passports. Such things have happened to filipino, indian, pakistani, and indonesian women every year.

Man, abuse is abuse and the Arabs are worst at it.Stop making excuses for them.

Ajuran:



The giraffe was between you and artank not me. As for trade, Somali history itself can be summed up with the word Trade.

Well tell that clown artank to edecute himself on historical matters.

Ajuran:



Criminals are everywhere. Look at the Negroids in South Africa who loot Somali shops, and even stoned a Somali shop owner to death.Criminals are everywhere. Somalis see everyone the same, for some reason Bantus get upset when non blacks kill them, but a crime is a crime no matter who perpetrates it. Ethiopian women are treated just as worse in their own country by some men, why the outrage when the man is not ethiopian?

Don't go to South Africa, stay where you belong.Problem solved.Poor South Africans tend to be a bit xenophobic but when it comes to Somalis they go hard compared to all other immigrants.Maybe your brothers took their nonsense to Soweto..

gallivant:


Don't go to South Africa, stay where you belong.Problem solved.Poor South Africans tend to be a bit xenophobic but when it comes to Somalis they go hard compared to all other immigrants.Maybe your brothers took their nonsense to Soweto..

The Somalis who go to South Africa are the ones who go there for business and open shops. These Negroids in South Africa attacked Somali shop keepers, and as many reports have noted this was out of jealousy because Somalis in the area were doing well in terms of business.

How come the South African negroids didnt have this amount of courage for the several hundred years they were under house arrest in their own country?

gallivant:


Man, abuse is abuse and the Arabs are worst at it.Stop making excuses for them.

I am not making excuses for anyone. Any abuse is terrible it doesnt matter who does it. I know Arabs and they are no worse than any other people. Anyone who thinks that is unaware. There are million of house maids in middle east, you only hear of maybe a couple dozen a year. While those are terrible they are evenly distributed among them migrants who go there for house work such as a maids from ethiopia, India, Pakistan, Indonesia and malaysia.


Because your people have gone through a history of slavery, you look at the world through the lens of being oppressed simply cause of your skin color. If those Arabs were racist against Ethiopians, they wouldn't employ them nor bring them into their home. Many times the women are jealous of the ethiopian/migrant women because the Husband is checking them out. Just like any being given absolute power, it corrupts absolutely as their are no recourse for migrant workers who hand their passports over to their employers and get paid monthly.


Ofcourse I am a rational person using stats to look at migrant workers racial makeup, percentage of abuse, the power dynamics. Where you are simply looking at a youtube video and coming up with wide sweeping comments about Arabs without evidence. Also keep in mind the type of person in Saudi Arabia who is likely to require a house maid: someone well off, who is mostly above the law because of undue influence in government, combine that without someone who seeks to hire workers from over seas for the sole purpose of working in their home (meaning they want to pay low wages).

Just as you believe Saudis are racist against black people, Indonesians thing the same.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOjduoBcUcs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li1XrY5ncPI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdB7lq3QlOM

Ajuran:



People like you only focus on the angle of race and not on socio economic privilege and the power dynamics involved between house maids and their employers who hold their passports. Such things have happened to filipino, indian, pakistani, and indonesian women every year.

gallivant post=31347777:

Man, abuse is abuse and the Arabs are worst at it.Stop making excuses for them.

Arabs are well known for their abusiveness. Being that they're insecure, glass chinned cowards they need to take out their frustrations out on people that can't or won't defend themselves properly.

BlackKenichi:


Arabs are well known for their abusive. Being that they're insecure, glass chinned cowards they need to take out their frustrations out on people that can't or won't defend themselves properly.

Thats because you have no relations with Arabs and the only time you hear of them is when their is negative news. But they are no worse or better than any other human being.

I can show you 10 stories just as worse in Nigeria about backwardness, and abusiveness and corruption.

Ajuran:



Thats because you have no relations with Arabs and the only time you hear of them is when their is negative news. But they are no worse or better than any other human being.

I can show you 10 stories just as worse in Nigeria about backwardness, and abusiveness and corruption.

The only relationship I want with an Arab is me breaking their faces with my right cross. I'd Bleep some Arab women though, they're kinda cute!

You are a sand ni&&er! Why don't get you knee pads so that you don't hurt yourself kissing the Arab a$$?!

BlackKenichi:

The only relationship I want with an Arab is me breaking their faces with my right cross. I'd Bleep some Arab women though, they're kinda cute!

LOL! I am in agreement.

BlackKenichi:

The only relationship I want with an Arab is me breaking their faces with my right cross. I'd Bleep some Arab women though, they're kinda cute!

When you have so much anger for Arabs but want to run after their women. You display the same slave mentality black americans display when the hate the white man and run after his woman.

Free your mind. If you act like your a victim, you will look at the world through the eyes of a helpless woman. God made you a man, act like one. Don't believe any other man is better than you. And shape your future with your own hands, blame yourself for your faults and dont assign blame to others, or you will always be winning like a helpless victim.

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gallivant:
You are a sand ni&&er! Why don't get you knee pads so that you don't hurt yourself kissing the Arab a$$?!

stating the obvious fact that Arabs are no worse than any other people, does not make me a butt kisser. You saying that Arabs are evil, makes you a help victim who is unable to do anything but cry online.

This is why I say that Slavery in West Africa was terrible not because of the physical abuse, but the mental chains it left on Bantus/Negroes. This is the lens you look at through the world. One in which everyone is out to get you. Act like a man.

Somalis got invaded by the USA, they fought them off. SURE thousands of Somalis died, but they blamed themselves for letting outsiders interfere in their affairs. You dont see any Somalis judging all white people simply for USA coming to Somalia.


Grow up, get an education, unshackle your mind, and repeat.

Ajuran:

When you have so much anger for Arabs but want to run after their women. You display the same slave mentality black americans display when the hate the white man and run after his woman.

Much like Arabs and White men hating black men but f*cking black women during the Trans-Atlantic and Arab slave trade. Yet it's funny how fucktards forget this.

Ajuran:
Free your mind. If you act like your a victim, you will look at the world through the eyes of a helpless woman. God made you a man, act like one. Don't believe any other man is better than you. And shape your future with your own hands, blame yourself for your faults and dont assign blame to others, or you will always be winning like a helpless victim.

I'm no victim. The only victim was that racist arab that tried to punch me. I broke his face with a right hook and headbutt!