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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:31am On Mar 06, 2015 |
saengine: Like i stated earlier, the article should be thrown into the garbage section, since neither you nor the article it'self can substantiate the contents in the report. A delusional report to self-aggrandisement with no substance. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:23am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Yet you don't give concrete reasoning as to why it should be thrown into garbage bin. Convince us with facts, not your weak and feeble reasoning that the minister of defence should know about their whereabouts. The mercenaries are private citizens and do not work within the jurisdiction of the minister of defence, so, it is undoubtedly possible that the minister might not have been informed about the developments. It was also said that the recruitment was clandestine. Still remember when Nigeria wanted to buy weapons in SA illegally, they did not inform anyone other that their claim that they addressed it with the presidency. So, this seems as their modus operandi to only talk to the first citizen. The minister of police did not know anything about the development and hence the money meant to buy weapons illegally was confiscated without Zuma having to interfere. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:23am On Mar 06, 2015 |
FLASH: Nigerian troops as at yesterday,escorted 3 czech made RM 70 MBRL to the frontlines,from the army base at Yola to the frontlines in Gwoza,Borno state. [Source: EWA] Share 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:33am On Mar 06, 2015 |
THE RESULTS OF HAVING CHAD TROOPS WITHDRAWN FROM THE BATTLE. BOKO HARAM KILLS MORE THAN 70 http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31757272 http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/05/world/boko-haram-nigeria-raid/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:44am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120: The article can only be thrown into the garbage section if you can PROVE that it's false. So far, all you've done is run hither and thither throwing mud around. But proof cannot be found. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:45am On Mar 06, 2015 |
mzilakazi: This is itself further exposes the weaknesses of the Nigerian military. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 8:51am On Mar 06, 2015 |
andrewza:The African invented the laser but yet the boer monkeys are trying to take credit for the black mans creation in the usual white way, I commend that African for his creation and I condemn that African for allowing those dirty Europeans to speak on camera as though it was their creation. Typical southie slave mentality. Zulus of 400 years ago may have been big and bad but the Zulus of 2015 are slaves and cowards. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:56am On Mar 06, 2015 |
ChukwuCantDie: This map shows up the real slaves.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 9:10am On Mar 06, 2015 |
DieVluit:NO! This map shows northerners are uneducated ...yet Naijas GDP has far surpassed Zululands' GDP, so who is the real slave? If you Zulu kaffirs weren't so uneducated your GDP would have probably be the same as ours or even more because of the infrastructure built by the pink people but sadly for you, Zulus are the worlds dumbest humans, SA will never catch Naija again. If we had stable electricity we would already be a 1trillion dollar economy. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:14am On Mar 06, 2015 |
ChukwuCantDie: Exactly! Slaves in their own country. ChukwuCantDie: Yet...
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 9:19am On Mar 06, 2015 |
DieVluit:Is Dangote a slave too? Also I dont know if you noticed but it is no longer 2007..it is now 2015, try again kaffir. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:21am On Mar 06, 2015 |
ChukwuCantDie: Feel free to bring different numbers for 2015 - you'll still lose - like you so clearly have lost already. It follows that when there are slaves, there will also be slave masters. In Nigeria, there are tons of slaves - oppressed by their own people. Nothing could be more stûpid. http://allafrica.com/stories/201503030951.html Fuel scarcity gets worse nationwide.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 10:12am On Mar 06, 2015 |
DieVluit:I don't need to bring numbers from anywhere, my life is fine. There are no slaves here, it's the Zulus who work on the 90% white owned farms as slaves not us. We Naija peeps own our own farms, kaffir. We are Nigeria, there is no such thing as a fuel scarcity. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:21am On Mar 06, 2015 |
ChukwuCantDie: You also CANNOT bring numbers from anywhere because you don't have them. There are tons of slaves in Nigeria. All oppressed by people who look like them. https://news.vice.com/article/thousands-of-new-nigerian-refugees-flock-to-cameroon-to-escape-boko-haram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqzE3hY-xlA It's the most "stûpidest" thing in the entire universe. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:42am On Mar 06, 2015 |
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/amid-rooivalk-restart-talks-denel-eyes-new-platform-403763/ 18 September 2014 Amid Rooivalk restart talks, Denel eyes new platform An ongoing discussion about restarting Rooivalk production includes an option to design a new platform based on technology developed for South Africa’s indigenous attack helicopter, says Denel Group chief executive Riaz Saloojee. Last March, South African defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula publicly expressed interest in restarting a Rooivalk production line that has gone dormant since 2007 after delivering only 12 aircraft, but offered no details on timing or funding.Those discussions between the Ministry of Defence and Denel Group are ongoing, Saloojee says. The talks have also broadened to consider additional options, including development of a new aircraft.Asked if Denel would restart production of the Block 1F standard of the Rooivalk that entered service in 2011, Saloojee instead described the ongoing talks as taking a broader view.“We’re not sure if it could be a new platform completely based on the same technology,” Saloojee says. “We don’t know. But definitely we are discussing a roadmap going forward.” Saloojee declined to define a minimum number of orders that would be required to justify relaunching Rooivalk production or starting a new development programme.“We are in analysis phase at the moment. We are looking at the feasibility not only from a manufacturing perspective but also a market perspective – what is the investment that is going to be required over what period. So all of those decisions need to be considered before a decision is taken,” he says. The Rooivalk was launched in 1984 by a predecessor company of Denel called Atlas Aircraft Corporation during the apartheid era, when sanctions limited the country’s access to weapons systems. It leaned heavily on the engine and dynamic components designed for South Africa’s Oryx helicopter, which includes elements of the Puma and Super Puma aircraft.The Rooivalk programme, however, was delayed as South Africa shifted suddenly into the post-apartheid era 10 years later. The aircraft finally entered service in 2011 with weapon system and gearbox upgrades developed to meet the Block 1F standard.The aircraft was deployed in a combat situation for the first time in 2013. A South African unit assigned to a United Nations peacekeeping force deployed the Rooivalk against artillery positions of the March 23 Movement, a rebel army in the Democratic Republic of the Congo that had shelled civilians.“We’re saying we’ve got this technology, we’ve got this platform, surely,” says Saloojee. “There must be a roadmap going forward in order to secure the technology and the future capabilities that we plan.” |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:44am On Mar 06, 2015 |
ChukwuCantDie:GDP per capita : South Africa: 11500 Nigeria : 2500 thus if we had the same population as Nigeria,we would have a gdp 4,5 times that of Nigeria. www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/wfbExt/region_afr.html 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:49am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Some interesting things were said yesterday by Denel regarding Rooivalk production (SA FM live broadcast). Looks like above story has developed even further since it's printing. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:59am On Mar 06, 2015 |
lezz: Wrong war buddy Google "toyota war" French influence was limited to supporting a no fly zone and raiding one airfeild which had aircraft that violated it Ground combat was all done by Chad - and they eradicated 1/10th of Libya army and captured/destroyed libya equipment worth $1,5 billion |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 11:00am On Mar 06, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:04am On Mar 06, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus - if you wish to argue with SIPRI, an internationally recognized and respected arms deal monitor, then that is your prerogative. The fact's are this: - Deal for 236 Badger IFV's has been finalized - 222 will be built in South Africa, with 70% of each being South African components - 14 Badger will be built in Finland. - Licensed production has been finalized and the facility to build the vehicles has been built The deal is done, the money paid, the vehicals on their way. Proof money has been paid: Denel receives a 10-year, $900 million production contract for the 5 variants of the Hoefyster New Generation Infantry Combat System http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/ It makes me sad that you are not mature enough to deal with these facts. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:06am On Mar 06, 2015 |
agaugust: I love how you are being forced to make this up. Question is simple: What role did france play in the Toyota war? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:09am On Mar 06, 2015 |
agaugust: What lies? I am simply posting information from SIPRI [size=15pt]And, you manipulated information from the source, purposly posting outdated information. [/size] From the same source, the relevant and latest information: “Denel Land Systems and Patria have signed an agreement regarding Patria AMV 8×8 armoured wheeled vehicle serial production and delivery to South Africa. The agreement includes 238 vehicles, out of which[b] 5 pre-series vehicles have already been delivered[/b] during the development phase. [b]The first 16 serial vehicles will be assembled by Patria in Finlan[/b]d, Hameenlinna. Thereafter the assembly will be migrated to South Africa to Denel Land Systems.” http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/ SIPRI confirms Your own source confirms Game - over |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:13am On Mar 06, 2015 |
agaugust: 4000 Rebels v 200 men Chad is a Seleka ally Yet again you have to lie about the facts to even vaguely have an argument here |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:14am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120: "Stop posting facts I dont like" Deal with it, b1tch |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:15am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120: You know more than ISS? Lol - dat delusion |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:18am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Or maybe that South Africa is concerned about BLOW-BACK (look up the term) and is trying to publicly distance itself from the activities of its mercenaries. And when you live in one of the most failed states in the world, you shouldent dare call someone a banana republic |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:19am On Mar 06, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus Provide a counter source to prove your claims Until you do, ours stands |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:21am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Who said the americans were kicked out? I guess you cant tell the difference between American government support and private contractors? Also, why would our minister of defence be responsible for dealing with South African PMC's? Its not her jop. Again, facts are facts - provide a counter source or the source stands. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:22am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120:Our literacy rate compared to yours tells a different story |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:24am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120: Why are you so emotional? Nigeria is the country that is a failed state, not South Africa - so you are literally a banana republic The Minister of Defense is only responsible for serving members of the SANDF - she has nothing to do with PMC's Facts are facts, we have to train your soldiers for you. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:25am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Henry120: I guess you missed the part where the government is looking into buying more of them? Rooivalks was never developed for export, so it is ridiculous to judge the quality of the Rooivalk based on sales. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:26am On Mar 06, 2015 |
agaugust: Your country is a joke The Europeans dont hate you, they pity you and your inability to rule yourselves. |
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