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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by joeyfire(m): 10:58am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Don't get it twisted. A sitting governor of a state sits at the head of the state security council that incudes the state police commissioner, state director DSS and others. Stakeholders in state security like the OPC are always in the loop and the governor has direct access to the leadership of such groups. So why a governor looks the other way for days while ethnic massacres are going on in his state by some of those groups is beyond me 8 Likes |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Rad1cal: 10:59am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: One of the reasons I hate discussing issues with your likes The police during the lekki toll gate protest were carrying out the bidding of the Fashola. Again I asked, who ordered them ? Jona ? 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Rad1cal: 11:00am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by BlackBaron: 11:03am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Any one that doesn't know Tinubu is corrupt definitely hasn't stopped drinking that 'oh la la' juice. A self styled leader trying to foist his own candidates all over the SW whilst retaining only those that'll preside over the smooth running of his businesses and loots. 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:04am On Mar 06, 2015 |
joeyfire: Please can you share precisely what ethnic violence you are talking about and how Tinubu looked away, like i said earlier, the police deos not take orders from the governor, ask amaechi and mbu. 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by joeyfire(m): 11:05am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: It was reported. The likes of Ebun Adegboruwa and Kate Henshaw were hounded by NURTW boys from Jakande and police men from Lord knows where. 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:07am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Rad1cal:I ask again did you have evidence of the order to beat protesters? Did gej order the police to shoot and kill 2 people during the subsidy protest. 3 Likes |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by joeyfire(m): 11:07am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: No wahala I will share in a bit. But let me ask you. The police that Amaechi led to supervise the beating of Evans Bipi and his thugs in the Rivers State Assembly who did they take orders from? Jonathan? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:09am On Mar 06, 2015 |
joeyfire:I have not said it didn't happen, the order is what i am asking for 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by queensmith: 11:11am On Mar 06, 2015 |
it probably went wrong because he is an ole buruku oju yobo. |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:16am On Mar 06, 2015 |
joeyfire:I/anyone can use his police detail to commit any crime as long as you feed them (sad Story of Nigeria) but i know a governor can order anti riot police without the commissioner whose responsibility is the security of the state. (sad structure of Nigeria) 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Rad1cal: 11:17am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: You are trying to be half smart, GEJ ordered the police to maintain peace and order during the subsidy protest, their overzealous approach is another case. Again , who ordered the police during the lekki protest that resulted in the rough handling of those folks. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:21am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Rad1cal: Overzealous for gej Order to beat for fashola. I get your point now 3 Likes |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by joeyfire(m): 11:24am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Read about the horrorendous violence in Tinubu's time as governor. http://m.hrw.org/reports/2003/nigeria0203/nigeriaopc0203-03.htm |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Rad1cal: 11:27am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Okay Jona ordered the police to kill people during the subsidy protest while Fashola ordered the police to beat the Lekki toll gate protesters to stupor. Are you clear now ? 4 Likes |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:33am On Mar 06, 2015 |
joeyfire: Tinubu controls the OPC? There was serious ethnic tension in the country under Obj, mainly yorubas vs hausas and this violence took place in the northern mainly with reprisals in Lagos. Please go and read why obj banned Opc, arewa and the rest. It is mischievous to blame a national crisis on a governor expecially when he does not have a state police and he his in constant battle with obj that controls the police. Go and read why obj chose Okiro as commissioner of police for Lagos 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:35am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Rad1cal:You opinion 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:35am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Rad1cal:Your opinion 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by anonimi: 11:36am On Mar 06, 2015 |
joeyfire: For those asking evidence- frozen before the APCheat IT Centre aka PVC cloning operators hack the site => www.nairaland.com/attachments/2185195_ganitinubuigboserecaseassaulttransparencynigeriawebsite_jpega5665315d5c791abf9153d63713a71a5 www.nairaland.com/attachments/2185196_ganitinubuigboserecaseassaulttransparencynigeriawebsite2_jpega25d65d2c2182d2a7e26492fee4db0da 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by anonimi: 11:38am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Rad1cal: For those who are in DENIAL, let me help their memory a little bit as we are in TGIF Lagos police brutalise Lekki toll gate protesters December 17, 2011
For the time being, let me leave out the violent response and harassment of protesters, including students against Fashola's senseless hike in LASU fees 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by joeyfire(m): 11:41am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: You obviously didn't open that link or else you wouldn't be talking like this. Especially trying to blame the violence in lagos on a "national crisis". For your information the violence in Lagos went on intermittently for about two years with Tinubu failing to take a leadership role by publicly calling OPC leaders to order. Instead he waited for Obj to crack down on them and earned the political brownie points for neutrality. But when Fasaheun and Gani Adams were at loggerheads he quickly called a reconciliatory meeting. Read some more http://www.refworld.org/docid/3f4f595910.html 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:46am On Mar 06, 2015 |
anonimi: Since you like to run away from topic of Discussion and post irrelevant pictures, below is a picture of protester killed during the subsidy protest, i have got several pictures from different States. 1 Like
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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by OLADD: 11:48am On Mar 06, 2015 |
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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:49am On Mar 06, 2015 |
joeyfire: What is the genesis of the ethnic violence in Lagos? From your link. "Around 2000 was the worst period of OPC violence [...] The police were incapable of controlling it. The OPC could shut down a whole street [...] Every other week there were clashes." 33 |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by joeyfire(m): 11:50am On Mar 06, 2015 |
anonimi: Bros do u know how many crucially important articles that was big news have strangely disappeared from the net? I am looking for a video of amaechi boasting to to some rivers state youth than he will flee the country if GEJ wins. I don ifind am tire 3 Likes |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 11:57am On Mar 06, 2015 |
anonimi:Have u ever checked Tinubu's CV? He was an accountant with a top firm. Yes he may have enriched himself but he wasnt that poor! |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by joeyfire(m): 11:58am On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: here has been a pattern of killings by the OPC in the context of disputes or clashes with other ethnic groups since at least 1999. Often these clashes were sparked off by a minor argument between two individuals from different ethnic groups, which typically then escalated when the Yoruba party brought in the OPC to fight their cause, while the other ethnic group retaliated by calling youths from their own community to the rescue. The incident would then rapidly degenerate into a violent ethnic conflict within hours, or sometimes within minutes. The widespread availability of small arms and traditional weapons and the readiness of youths from all sides to use them meant that community leaders were often unable to stop the violence or restore calm, despite efforts to do so. http://m.hrw.org/reports/2003/nigeria0203/nigeriaopc0203-03.htm If you want specifics go to the links I posted. Do you know Tinibu was then criticised for his two faced and lame approach to the problem? 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by MizMyColi(f): 12:00pm On Mar 06, 2015 |
*sighs* I have all 3 parts of the video. *sighs again* |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:04pm On Mar 06, 2015 |
joeyfire:High ethnic tension just as i mentioned earlier. 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:05pm On Mar 06, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Since this is your line of argument then none of you should ever describe Jonathan as corrupt because they have not been indicted by any court of law for corruption. Summary tinubu is not corrupt Jonathan is not corrupt. End of story. 4 Likes |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by anonimi: 12:06pm On Mar 06, 2015 |
Aloralord1: He was also a drug lord who forfeited $460,000 to the US authorities to pay off his crime. www.nairaland.com/attachments/1206437_2e8d204456ddaca651c21c258cad334b_jpg2c86cdb1543edff718fbaebc74f4b873 Again the question is how did he afford a private jet from his earnings as a state governor for eight years 1 Like |
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:07pm On Mar 06, 2015 |
MizMyColi: I hope you see how someone who was hailed as a hero when he left office has become the "face" of corruption. I ask again, is it greed, not knowing when to stop or just propaganda? 1 Like |
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