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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by walemoney007(m): 12:28pm On Mar 06, 2015
Rad1cal:
How can the OP call Benue a Northern state ?
benue is one of d 19 northern state.
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by akumada1: 12:33pm On Mar 06, 2015
Im in benue and i interact with my people. Benue is in full support of Gej. The OPs is just an apc sympathiser creating self opinion claiming people's opinion.

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by DRANOEL(m): 12:39pm On Mar 06, 2015
akumada1:
Im in benue and i interact with my people. Benue is in full support of Gej. The OPs is just an apc sympathiser creating self opinion claiming people's opinion.

let me make a wild guess, you are Idoma, and you are a David Mark follower. I guessed that, because those are the only set of people that can make the above statement
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by since1914(m): 12:53pm On Mar 06, 2015
DRANOEL:


let me make a wild guess, you are Idoma, and you are a David Mark follower. I guessed that, because those are the only set of people that can make the above statement

This is neither about tiv or idoma, the reality is that, Benue workers have not been paid their legitimate wages in several months, coupled with all the hardship most Benue citizens had to endure in the last eight years...there is no way any sect will be indifferent towards their common oppressor.
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by deskossy(m): 1:27pm On Mar 06, 2015
Vote doesn't count in naija.mk una no dey waste una time
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Caution30: 1:39pm On Mar 06, 2015
DRANOEL:
Firstly, this is my opinion which was built on interactions, the tempo of the people and the general feeling in the State.

All lot of permutations are being made with most(if not all) showing Benue as a sure state for Goodluck to win convincingly, this permutations are made on the premise that Gabriel Suswam will pull his weight as the sitting governor added to the force of David Mark. Also, some believe that Benue being the only Northern State with a 98% Christian majority and with their experience with the Fulani herdsmen, a vote for a Fulani man talkless a muslim will be a no no for them. All these are far from the reality on ground, the Benue electorate (both in town & grassroots) in this coming elections are perhaps the most politically conscious electorates in the country right now, from the farmer in the thick village to the fisherman in the riverine areas to the white collar jobber in the towns, the political discussions are centred on voting individuals and not party and considerations are placed on antecedents, baggage, goodwill and sense of injustice. The principal supporters of the president in Benue (Suswam, Mark, Ayu, Morro) are actually the principal reasons the president will not be getting a slice of Benue. Suswam is considered by almost all in Benue as the dark spot of the state, in eight years apart from raising the financial status of various girlfriends, putting money in the hands of thugs and cultist, the governor has really not done anything in the State. This is evidenced in the fact that during the President's visit, He had to commission a renovated primary school as the achievement of the governor. Suswam is basically hated by the Benue electorate, so much that the PDP governoship candidate in the state despite being a young man with the potential to move the state forward, has a herculean task to climb because of his association with Suswam, whenever he goes campaigning and tells the electorates to vote for him so as to continue the good works Suswam started, the people ask; what continuity,? the continual owing of civil servants salary (now 5 months), the continual looting of state funds, the continual nonchalant attitude towards the Fulani invaders, the continual funding of babes, or the continual elevation of thugs? To paint a better picture of how Suswam is a liability, Barnabas Gemade a hitherto selfish and unliked politician in the state is now praised to high heavens, simply because he is battling Suswam for the senate sit, Suswam winning Gemade is day by day becoming an impossible task talkless of him garnering votes in his senatorial zone for Jonathan, in fact Suswam is rumoured to have lamented to some close aides about the President's inefficiency in handling INEC and making Jega to fall in line, He is rumoured to have said his and others election is now a tight rope, something that would have been a walk over if only the President had hoodwinked Inec from the get go.

David Mark, though his senate sit is more or less guaranteed, the same cannot be said about his zone's support for Jonathan and/or the governorship candidate. David Mark will be riding on the back of the fact that he paid off every reasonable challenge against him and is smart enough to understand that the general feeling of his people towards Jonathan is low, He has infact through his own campaigns (not the presidential or governorship rallies) managed to sub consciously pass the message across that he is only asking for his senate sit and it shouldn't be confused or mixed up with any other election. Ayu and Morro are political liabilities in Benue, the surest way to lose an election in the state is having them on your train.

Added to all this is Goodluck himself who despite the huge support he got from the state, has managed not to do anything in the state for the past 4years. In addition, the Tivs who have a 70+% majority in the state have been politically side-lined in the national level. Besides, the general feeling in the state is that of a President who has no idea what his job functionality is, mention the name Goodluck in the villages and you will be lucky if you are not vulgarly insulted. Posters of Jonathan are only displayed in a few towns as he is tied with Suswam as one and the same person. It is even said that if Goodluck rigs Benue the best he can get is 30% of the votes, the situation you have in Benue according to the people is a useless Suswam teamed up with an unpopular President and supported by Ayu/Morro who have lost every respect of people against a Buhari who is seen as someone different from the usual, supported by Akume who has a cult following and Ortom, who even though has issues with how he became APC governorship candidate, has lots of respect in the state for giving back to the people by propping up small industries across the state.

Anyone who says Goodluck will win Benue is only living a day dream, for the indigenes of Benue, Goodluck will definitely lose Benue; the question is, how bad will he lose? Discussions are not on whether he will lose or not, discussions are on the extent of his losing.

Maybe not the Benue I know

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by shaqhead: 1:44pm On Mar 06, 2015
capricon:
Let me tell you why you wrong. From history people vote based on sentiments and not perfomance

For example what did obasanjo do for the south east? Yet he was voted in TWICE from that zone

Jonathan, a political neophyte trounced buhari.

Jonathan will win though with a slim margin only because buhari and ribadu votes will be merged together from last time to shore up buhari votes this time

Jonathan will win whether he did something or not.

Let me tel u y u r wrong! From history the only constant in life is CHANGE all ur postulations are VARIABLES

Nigerians ddnt always vote along religious lines 〓Abiola/Kingibe

Nigerians wont always vote along ethnic lines 〓the southwest ddnt vote in block for ObJ in 1999...d north/SE/SS voted him in!
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Akshow: 1:44pm On Mar 06, 2015
capricon:
Let me tell you why you wrong. From history people vote based on sentiments and not perfomance

For example what did obasanjo do for the south east? Yet he was voted in TWICE from that zone

Jonathan, a political neophyte trounced buhari.

Jonathan will win though with a slim margin only because buhari and ribadu votes will be merged together from last time to shore up buhari votes this time

Jonathan will win whether he did something or not.


Don't say people vote out of sentiments, say Igbo vote for sentimental reasons

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Akshow: 1:51pm On Mar 06, 2015
Splashme:
OP, on what grounds will Benue not vote GEJ?
Below are a few of his projects in that state. There are many others:

* Reconstruction PH-Enugu-Makurdi Rail way lines

* Reconstruction of Lafia – Makurdi Road, Aliade to Uturkpo Road

* SURE – P Projects in the state

* Construction of new library at the Federal Government College Otobi, Benue state

* Supply of new improved seedlings to boast groundnut and sorghum production

* Palliative reliefs for the Flood victims

* Construction of Perishable Cargo Terminal in Makurdi

* Ongoing construction of Oweto Bridge to link Benue and Nasarawa State (85% Completed)

* Ongoing reconstruction of Makurdi – Gboko, Wannune – Yandev Section Road

* Completion of the Greater Makurdi Water Supply Scheme

* Construction of Oju – Obussa – Ainu Road

when u people stop peddling lies? I don't need to read the rest of d jargons u write cos ur first claim that gej constructed pH makurdi railway lines is d most stupid and absurd lie have ever heard. Mr man.... pH to kano via makurdi has been constructed before Nigeria's democracy. Four five decades ago.

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Eastherbunny(m): 2:42pm On Mar 06, 2015
Benue
The only in that state provided by PDP is cultism and dirt.
I am from there and If I have the power I w ould nuke that state cuz the most painful things is we know the are highly corrupt. Yet we have nothing to say. God it pains me a lot.

I swear I wish god will just kill
1.David mark.
2.Abba moro
3 gabriel suswan
4.And all their tugs.

Sir buhari if u eventually becomes president pls death sentence should be their portion.
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Eastherbunny(m): 2:45pm On Mar 06, 2015
DRANOEL:


let me make a wild guess, you are Idoma, and you are a David Mark follower. I guessed that, because those are the only set of people that can make the above statement


Don't mind him I would willingly burn PDP cuz of what there are doing to the idoma people.
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by coldFLARES1(m): 3:07pm On Mar 06, 2015
capricon:
Let me tell you why you wrong. From history people vote based on sentiments and not perfomance

For example what did obasanjo do for the south east? Yet he was voted in TWICE from that zone

Jonathan, a political neophyte trounced buhari.

Jonathan will win though with a slim margin only because buhari and ribadu votes will be merged together from last time to shore up buhari votes this time

Jonathan will win whether he did something or not.

I may have to disagree with you. The most likely consequence of having a non-perfoming 'brother' run in an election as an incumbent is aparthy and not sentiments. His people would be totally indifferent whether he wins or loses.

However, loopholes in the electoral system have given politicians the leverage to commit fraud and make it seem like it is possible to be a failure yet to be overwheming loved by your people. As a matter of fact, politicians simply connive with electoral officials to either totally deny some people of their right to vote on election day or simply use up unused ballot paper.

For instance, check the rate of collection of PVCs in Bayelsa and tell me if the president's kinsmen are quite keen about his re-election. It is following from this that you can situate PDP's agitation for non-accreditation using the Card Readers and a call to accommodate the use of TVCs so that they can replicate their fraud of a 90 percent voter turn-out in the SE and SS and justify the kind of postulation you make.

Personally, I only desire the process to leave very little room for manipulations so we can have an election that is substancially credible, free and fair. But make no mistakes, I am for Buhari all the way!

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by kuuljay(m): 3:25pm On Mar 06, 2015
Splashme:
OP, on what grounds will Benue not vote GEJ?
Below are a few of his projects in that state. There are many others:

* Reconstruction PH-Enugu-Makurdi Rail way lines

* Reconstruction of Lafia – Makurdi Road, Aliade to Uturkpo Road

* SURE – P Projects in the state

* Construction of new library at the Federal Government College Otobi, Benue state

* Supply of new improved seedlings to boast groundnut and sorghum production

* Palliative reliefs for the Flood victims

* Construction of Perishable Cargo Terminal in Makurdi

* Ongoing construction of Oweto Bridge to link Benue and Nasarawa State (85% Completed)

* Ongoing reconstruction of Makurdi – Gboko, Wannune – Yandev Section Road

* Completion of the Greater Makurdi Water Supply Scheme

* Construction of Oju – Obussa – Ainu Road
I am a Benue man,stop spreading lies

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Hiroshize(m): 3:32pm On Mar 06, 2015
Splashme:
OP, on what grounds will Benue not vote GEJ?
Below are a few of his projects in that state. There are many others:

* Reconstruction PH-Enugu-Makurdi Rail way lines

* Reconstruction of Lafia – Makurdi Road, Aliade to Uturkpo Road

* SURE – P Projects in the state

* Construction of new library at the Federal Government College Otobi, Benue state

* Supply of new improved seedlings to boast groundnut and sorghum production

* Palliative reliefs for the Flood victims

* Construction of Perishable Cargo Terminal in Makurdi

* Ongoing construction of Oweto Bridge to link Benue and Nasarawa State (85% Completed)

* Ongoing reconstruction of Makurdi – Gboko, Wannune – Yandev Section Road

* Completion of the Greater Makurdi Water Supply Scheme

* Construction of Oju – Obussa – Ainu Road

MR MAN, YOU ARE A LIAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by lukaino(m): 3:51pm On Mar 06, 2015
This OP just corroborated what a relative of David Mark told me recently. APC has taken over Benue. The people are badly in need of change.

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by mcquin(m): 3:51pm On Mar 06, 2015
capricon:
Let me tell you why you wrong. From history people vote based on sentiments and not perfomance

For example what did obasanjo do for the south east? Yet he was voted in TWICE from that zone

Jonathan, a political neophyte trounced buhari.

Jonathan will win though with a slim margin only because buhari and ribadu votes will be merged together from last time to shore up buhari votes this time

Jonathan will win whether he did something or not.

In essence, are you admitting Jona has not performed?

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by DRANOEL(m): 3:58pm On Mar 06, 2015
coldFLARES1:
I may have to disagree with you. The most likely consequence of having a non-perfoming 'brother' run in an election as an incumbent is aparthy and not sentiments. His people would be totally indifferent whether he wins or loses.

However, loopholes in the electoral system have given politicians the leverage to commit fraud and make it seem like it is possible to be a failure yet to be overwheming loved by your people. As a matter of fact, politicians simply connive with electoral officials to either totally deny some people of their right to vote on election day or simply use up unused ballot paper.

For instance, check the rate of collection of PVCs in Bayelsa and tell me if the president's kinsmen are quite keen about his re-election. It is following from this that you can situate PDP's agitation for non-accreditation using the Card Readers and a call to accommodate the use of TVCs so that they can replicate their fraud of a 90 percent voter turn-out in the SE and SS and justify the kind of postulation you make.

Personally, I only desire the process to leave very little room for manipulations so we can have an election that is substancially credible, free and fair. But make no mistakes, I am for Buhari all the way!

some people just think that the no shoes and Christian/Muslim sentiments used in 2011 will work again in 2015.
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by gwales: 4:05pm On Mar 06, 2015
otuoke is sacrosanct
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by seankay(m): 6:01pm On Mar 06, 2015
Ondo state result will also shock PDP
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by capricon: 6:16pm On Mar 06, 2015
Akshow:


Don't say people vote out of sentiments, say Igbo vote for sentimental reasons

So why did they vote yaradua?
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by capricon: 6:18pm On Mar 06, 2015
mcquin:

In essence, are you admitting Jona has not performed?

Even if i say he performed, you will not agree with me so performance is subjective.

Have u heard of stomach infrastructure? How do you explain that?
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Aspireahead(m): 6:39pm On Mar 06, 2015
DRANOEL:


let me make a wild guess, you are Idoma, and you are a David Mark follower. I guessed that, because those are the only set of people that can make the above statement
while i tink Buhari will win the election, Benue is in support of GEJ. Who do u tink vote base on performance? Oga forget what u have seen in MKD and Gboko and go to villages. Enter Vandeikya, Zaki biam, Chito and other villages to find out.

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Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Akshow: 6:56pm On Mar 06, 2015
capricon:


So why did they vote yaradua?

Did u have any option then?
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by DRANOEL(m): 7:57pm On Mar 06, 2015
Aspireahead:

while i tink Buhari will win the election, Benue is in support of GEJ. Who do u tink vote base on performance? Oga forget what u have seen in MKD and Gboko and go to villages. Enter Vandeikya, Zaki biam, Chito and other villages to find out.

did you even read the original post? It is the villages that dont want to here GEJ
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by drtwist(m): 8:00pm On Mar 06, 2015
DRANOEL:


Chairman can you name the 19 northern states? are you aware that presently, APC has two of the three senators in the state?
how I wish u can bet ur money about benue state. even by % Gej will pull up to 65% because Election is won in nigeria mainly by the number of top men u have behind u. That is the only reason Buhari can Even talk abt change because he knws he now have Men behind him. So hook me up if u want a Bet.
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by DRANOEL(m): 8:06pm On Mar 06, 2015
drtwist:
how I wish u can bet ur money about benue state. even by % Gej will pull up to 65% because Election is won in nigeria mainly by the number of top men u have behind u. That is the only reason Buhari can Even talk abt change because he knws he now have Men behind him. So hook me up if u want a Bet.

Name the big local govts in Benue, then tell me where their sentiments lie
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by Femolacaster(m): 8:39pm On Mar 06, 2015
@op, i was chatting with my tiv friend in who stays in makurdi few hours ago, and to be candid, i asked him d political situation there, most of what he said are similar to your own observation in d write-up.
And people shouting buhari is fulani, is ribadu not fulani in 2011 when he polled more than 200,000 votes from benue then?
Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by mcquin(m): 9:21pm On Mar 06, 2015
capricon:


Even if i say he performed, you will not agree with me so performance is subjective.

Have u heard of stomach infrastructure? How do you explain that?

Sentiments aside,stroll down to one or two other countries and see what presidents do and people call performance. Not advertising just train services after 6yrs; jst when opposition started dragging the rug off his feet.

Watching an advert of his performance on AIT, I saw the stadium built by Akpabio listed as his achievement. I just shook my head.

Nigerians deserve better.

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