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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:55am On Mar 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Why do we have to go fight Seleka? Poachers are not an SANDF problem. We have allready shown our worth in Combat with the UN FIB 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:55am On Mar 07, 2015 |
agaugust: Show us your para's training facilities. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:58am On Mar 07, 2015 |
agaugust: We know how ranks work - we have them as well. What you dont understand is that a general, of ANY rank, cannot do his job effectively while at the front And again, training is more important than experience (or else Congolese soldiers would be the best in the world) The only time experience is relevant is to test whether or not your doctrine works |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:58am On Mar 07, 2015 |
agaugust: How does a Gripen jet equal a F-7? Tell us 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:01am On Mar 07, 2015 |
agaugust: South Africa and Algeria will never come to blows You build your army to defend against likely threats If they were close enough to be a threat, we will have still maintained the SANDF at the old levels of the SADF (400,000 men in uniform) |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ocelot2006(m): 9:44am On Mar 07, 2015 |
And the d.i.c.k measuring contest between Nigeria and South Africa continues. When you kids are done comparing peepees, grow up. Till then, please post more pics (Nigerian, South African, Ugandan, Namibia, Chadian, etc). 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 10:44am On Mar 07, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: You are talking about your useless SANDF. The NA boasts of a rugged hands-on, practical and proactive army in rank and file! Every officer and soldier knows how to improvise on the field. Every General knows when to lead by example. Great army Generals (Napoleon, et al) led by example. Now we see the real COWARDS OF AFRICA. True confessions of a spineless South African. Na jeje we dey move! 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:13am On Mar 07, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: I think is time for Nigeria to run to Chad to seek for help again. Your master Chad must rescue you once more. http://news.yahoo.com/residents-boko-haram-fighters-gather-mass-ne-nigeria-123517685.html 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:15am On Mar 07, 2015 |
agaugust:Your opinion doesnt matter...! Nigeria ranks 4th on the Global terrorist index...FACT! 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:18am On Mar 07, 2015 |
Patchesagain:He cant, because they have none. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:27am On Mar 07, 2015 |
Un-related Bonga oil FPSO (floating production, storage and off-loading) platform built for Royal Dutch Shell by Nigerdock. Imagine what Nigerdock would be able to design and build if they are sanctioned to build ships for the Nigerian Navy. http://www.nigerdock.com/photos 4 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:30am On Mar 07, 2015 |
jln115: And 69 South-Africans are murdered everyday in South-Africa despite the country having no insurgency. 69 * 365 days =? 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:37am On Mar 07, 2015 |
Henry120:Its 47 a day...and Nigeria has very very limited crime statistic data, thus the fact, not even your government knows how many murders there are in Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:12pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
mzilakazi: And why do you think BH are gathering in one area o very slow one? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 12:30pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
Henry120:wow a firm that can build this can build anything. i mean even an aircraft career. i know i heard we were working on local content in the oil industry but i never knew we ve gotten to this level. thumbs up to the guys at Niger dock. [b] Lagos — An engineering and fabrication feat hitherto the exclusive preserve of Europe, America and Asia have been recorded in Nigeria with the work on the topsides for the Usan floating, production, storage and offloading (FPSO) vessel at Nigerdock. At the weekend, the 2nd of a five stages load-out sequence involving the shipment of a total 7500 tons of fabricated steel was recorded. While explaining the scope of work to those present at the load-out, Mr. Manssour Jarmakani, Executive Director, Nigerdock Plc, at the weekend, disclosed that the first load-out was recorded in April and that it involved the shipment of 981 tons of fabricated steel for the topside integration at the Ulsan yard, operated by Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) in Korea. The 1st load-out of fabricated steel was for the 'riser support - type 1 & 4 and this was achieved in record time. The 2nd load-out which commenced at the weekend involved the shipment of 1524 tons of fabricated steel for the 'crew boat landing stair', '10 number P1 and S1 lay down module' and the 'secondary riser support'. It is expected that the third load-out of the water casing, crane pedestal and collation platform will take place in October 2009, while the 4th load-out involving shipment of the heli-deck support is expected to take place in January 2010. The 5th and final load-out involving shipment of the mooring protection structure as well as all other topsides items is expected to take place in June 2010. [/b] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 12:47pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
EVarn:dude are we talking about MRLs? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 12:48pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
DieVluit:dude were do you get this your messed up maps from. i mean the map itself is confusing in its configuration. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:53pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
Samil 100 kwevoel: 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:34pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
overhypedsteve: The local content initiative in Nigeria is a law. Nigerdock is the biggest local shipbuilding and marine engineering firm I know of, but there are more local companies in that sector, hundreds of them at onne and bonny. In 2012 they built and handed over to elf oil&ggas 2 locally designed and fabricated Oil Rigs. That FPSO is world class by any top standard. I have no doubts in my mind that they can comfortably build Frigates and Corvettes if they decide to start building military grade vessels. My hope is that in the land systems/mobility side, local companies like Proforce can grow in the shortest possible time to be able to compete with Streit group and poly technologies for the supply of MRAPs and LAVs to the military. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:43pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
Henry120: Local content - the only way nigerdock could hope to compete against South African companies in the marine business operating in nigeria. Prior to that, they couldn't compete. Shameful. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:49pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
Henry120: The construction of Frigates and Corvettes is more than just the welding of steel You need to develop engines, radar systems, warfare-suites hundreds of steel blends and just as many blends of composits and ceramics, thousands of sub-systems, you will have millions of miscellaneous components which need to be designed and fabricated - each of which will require design and development and economies of scale for industrialization, furthermore you will need tens of millions of lines of code that need to be written and tested. There is a reason that only 1st world and major 3rd world (turkey, china and india) nations are able to construct them. A better option would be the construction of fleet auxiliary vessels and perhaps large vessels designed for amphibious assault (but not LPH's) and even these will not compete against cheaper options offered by foreign dealers. Even the construction of quality MRAPs and LAVs is no easy task and requires decades of R& ![]() Nigeria is still learning to walk, with the construction of the current armored car (its not an AFV or IFV or MRAP) you have. The next step is building on that platform with more bespoke designs. Once that is done, you can consider trying to run with an MRAP, then comes an AFV, then an IFV then a MBT. Growth must be organic, not forced 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:49pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
overhypedsteve:yes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:51pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
EVarn: Well, if we are, is you supposed (no confirmed existence) Czech platform supposed to impress us? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:01pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
DieVluit: The bitter bile in you is killing you slowly! ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:16pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
DieVluit:dreaming and drooling again ... which one is in Nigeria building such? [or in Nigeria for starters?] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:19pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
DieVluit: Yeah........... look at it, sulk on it. I can bet this sort of engineering feat has never and will never be achieved in South-Africa. This is not a ship, it is a fortress. Look at that fortress go!! 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:20pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
iterator24: Only facts. Nigerdock was helped by local content laws against the South Africans http://www.jagal.com/latest-news/nigerdock-banks-on-local-content-law/ Aside from Saipem’s Port Harcourt yard, which already has full engineering, procurement and construction capability, NigerDock is currently the busiest of its competitors, having stolen the lead from local fabrication yard Dorman Long, South Africa’s Grinaeker, Acergy’s Globestar yard at Warri and the former Willbros facilities, now owned by Ascot Offshore. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by cofee: 3:21pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
The string of disputes marks a departure from the bonhomie of the 1970s and 1980s, when Nigeria led Africa's antiapartheid campaign, furnishing passports and military training to members of the same African National Congress who now rule South Africa. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203961204577269271798505642 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:23pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
Henry120: What I can bet is that nigerdock should be ashamed that it needed government regulations for it to be able to compete against South Africans...in Nigeria. That's shameful. http://www.petroleumafrica.com/nigerdock-participates-in-local-content-milestone/ Nigeria’s oil service industry has hit a milestone, for the first time a semi-submersible drillship will see maintenance and an upgrade in the country. The Transocean GSF Rig 140 arrived in Nigeria to undergo a planned 80-day maintenance and upgrade at Snake Island, Lagos. Historically the rig would have been sent to another location such as SOUTH AFRICA or Dubai for the upgrade. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:27pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
cofee: Compared to Russia, China, Cuba, Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Lesotho and Swaziland, Nigeria played a very minor role. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:28pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
Henry120: Unlike you we have actually built a major warship And i dont have the time to list the number of things we have built which you have not |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:31pm On Mar 07, 2015 |
DieVluit:it seems your 'competition' has not done anything worth that fortress other than employ Nigerian engineers for minor contracts..next time, do more research and post pics 3 Likes |
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