iterator24:
it seems your 'competition' has not done anything worth that fortress other than employ Nigerian engineers for mjnor contracts..

Work on an oil rig, the mainstay of the nigerian economy, is a minor contract only to a f00l.

And there's nothing more intensive than a rig.

Fact is in order to even remotely see progress, nigerdock had to run under mamma's skirt, cause the bad south africans were eating up all the business.

Patchesagain:


Compared to Russia, China, Cuba, Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Lesotho and Swaziland, Nigeria played a very minor role.

major role, minor role... a role was played...

DieVluit:


Work on an oil rig, the mainstay of the nigerian economy, is a minor contract only to a f00l.

And there's nothing more intensive than a rig.

Fact is in order to even remotely see progress, nigerdock had to run under mamma's skirt, cause the bad south africans were eating up all the business.

hmmm... still cant find pics, are you hurt?

iterator24:
hmmm... still cant find pics, are you hurt?

You've found two links already.

And you can read.

So, the question is - are you hurt?

No, no. Are you ashamed?

You needed mommy's protection against the bad Saffas.

iterator24:
major role, minor role... a role was played...

Minor role.

Onlytruth:


Nna Nigerian military was seriously rubbished by a Siera Leonian rebel calling himself "General Mosquito" who pinned them down in Freetown and never allowed them to operate outside of Freetown.

The truth is that Nigerian military has NOT been tested. Something tells me that Nigeria cannot win any international conflict, even with a Chad or Cameroun.

All these local bravado is not fooling anyone.

The string of disputes marks a departure from the bonhomie of the 1970s and 1980s, when Nigeria led Africa's antiapartheid campaign, furnishing passports and military training to members of the same African National Congress who now rule South Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203961204577269271798505642

DieVluit:


Minor role.

hahahaha...we took you out of your misery

DieVluit:


You've found two links already.

And you can read.

So, the question is - are you hurt?

No, no. Are you ashamed?

You needed mommy's protection against the bad Saffas.

You can't build that fortress

DieVluit:


Minor role.

The article used the word "led africa's antiapartheid campaign"
The string of disputes marks a departure from the bonhomie of the 1970s and 1980s, when Nigeria led Africa's antiapartheid campaign, furnishing passports and military training to members of the same African National Congress who now rule South Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203961204577269271798505642

Patchesagain:


Compared to Russia, China, Cuba, Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Lesotho and Swaziland, Nigeria played a very minor role.

The article used the word "led africa's antiapartheid campaign"
The string of disputes marks a departure from the bonhomie of the 1970s and 1980s, when Nigeria led Africa's antiapartheid campaign, furnishing passports and military training to members of the same African National Congress who now rule South Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203961204577269271798505642

cofee:

The article used the word "led africa's antiapartheid campaign"
The string of disputes marks a departure from the bonhomie of the 1970s and 1980s, when Nigeria led Africa's antiapartheid campaign, furnishing passports and military training to members of the same African National Congress who now rule South Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203961204577269271798505642

you don't have to argue, there's a YouTube video of our president shoving it on their faces right in their own parliament.

youtube.com/watch?v=j6Nc-WV-Q5M

Patchesagain:


The construction of Frigates and Corvettes is more than just the welding of steel

You need to develop engines, radar systems, warfare-suites hundreds of steel blends and just as many blends of composits and ceramics, thousands of sub-systems, you will have millions of miscellaneous components which need to be designed and fabricated - each of which will require design and development and economies of scale for industrialization, furthermore you will need tens of millions of lines of code that need to be written and tested. There is a reason that only 1st world and major 3rd world (turkey, china and india) nations are able to construct them.

Actually you don't need to develop engines, you can easily purchase MTU engines from Germany, South-korea, U.K or France.

Radar system, again, they can be purchased from Germany, Russia, China, the U.K, South-korea, Israel etc.


Sub-systems, codes and other miscellaneous can be developed locally, judging from this vessel i can see, they can be done.

The reason why the developed world and developing, but richer countries like india, turkey can do it is because, their government's have considerable access to larger funds which can be tapped into.

What's in developing codes using C++?". We built Nigeria SAT-X and are planning on launching another from Nigeria in 2018.

Patchesagain:



A better option would be the construction of fleet auxiliary vessels and perhaps large vessels designed for amphibious assault (but not LPH's) and even these will not compete against cheaper options offered by foreign dealers.

Even the construction of quality MRAPs and LAVs is no easy task and requires decades of R& followed by many more years of trial and error

Nigeria is still learning to walk, with the construction of the current armored car (its not an AFV or IFV or MRAP) you have. The next step is building on that platform with more bespoke designs. Once that is done, you can consider trying to run with an MRAP, then comes an AFV, then an IFV then a MBT.

Growth must be organic, not forced

If Nigeria can launch High end FSPO's, there is nothing to celebrate in the launch of amphibious assault ships or landing crafts.


It isn't just a question of competing, it's a matter of having local options to give priority to when orders are about to be made.


Streit group is the world's largest Private Armoured vehicle/MRAP/APC manufacturer........ yet this company isn't up to 20 years old.

The growth in Nigeria Private sector is exponential. When NNS Andoni was launched, Nigerians celebrated the SDB like it was a moon landing. We celebrated in the way we did because our notoriously slow government finally had something going, same thing with the Igirigi LAV.


The Private sector has always been far ahead of the government, this Nigerdock fortress was launched in 2010, 2 years before NNS Andoni......... the irony.


Nigeria only needs private sector participation in the defence industry, then watch that industry grow.


It isn't a question of learning to walk. Nigerian kids don't learn to walk, once out of the womb, we run, then we hustle hard.

Patchesagain:


Unlike you we have actually built a major warship

And i dont have the time to list the number of things we have built which you have not

No, you haven't built that ship! Or a ship similar in tonnage and displacement.

Henry120:


The local content initiative in Nigeria is a law. Nigerdock is the biggest local shipbuilding and marine engineering firm I know of, but there are more local companies in that sector, hundreds of them at onne and bonny. In 2012 they built and handed over to elf oil&ggas 2 locally designed and fabricated Oil Rigs.

That FPSO is world class by any top standard. I have no doubts in my mind that they can comfortably build Frigates and Corvettes if they decide to start building military grade vessels.

My hope is that in the land systems/mobility side, local companies like Proforce can grow in the shortest possible time to be able to compete with Streit group and poly technologies for the supply of MRAPs and LAVs to the military.

they wont need to compete with anybody if we can protect them. Nigeria must now play a protectionists role for her local manufacturers, Proforce, Nigerdockyard, IVM and a host of others. we need to get things done here.

EVarn:
yes

thats good then, we can now send the virgin seekers off in a glorious cloud of smoke and debris. keep your eyes open for pics.

Henry120:


Actually you don't need to develop engines, you can easily purchase MTU engines from Germany, South-korea, U.K or France.

Radar system, again, they can be purchased from Germany, Russia, China, the U.K, South-korea, Israel etc.


Sub-systems, codes and other miscellaneous can be developed locally, judging from this vessel i can see, they can be done.

The reason why the developed world and developing, but richer countries like india, turkey can do it is because, their government's have considerable access to larger funds which can be tapped into.

What's in developing codes using C++?". We built Nigeria SAT-X and are planning on launching another from Nigeria in 2018.



If Nigeria can launch High end FSPO's, there is nothing to celebrate in the launch of amphibious assault ships or landing crafts.


It isn't just a question of competing, it's a matter of having local options to give priority to when orders are about to be made.


Streit group is the world's largest Private Armoured vehicle/MRAP/APC manufacturer........ yet this company isn't up to 20 years old.

The growth in Nigeria Private sector is exponential. When NNS Andoni was launched, Nigerians celebrated the SDB like it was a moon landing. We celebrated in the way we did because our notoriously slow government finally had something going, same thing with the Igirigi LAV.


The Private sector has always been far ahead of the government, this Nigerdock fortress was launched in 2010, 2 years before NNS Andoni......... the irony.


Nigeria only needs private sector participation in the defence industry, then watch that industry grow.


It isn't a question of learning to walk. Nigerian kids don't learn to walk, once out of the womb, we run, then we hustle hard.

leave those bagas, the JF17 was coded with the same C++ and this a code that any graduate from computer science can type in his sleep.

Henry120:


No, you haven't built that ship! Or a ship similar in tonnage and displacement.

Simple answer is the SAS Drakensburg 12500tons. It still remains the largest ever military vessel built in Africa.

Get your facts right before you comment

Patchesagain:

Well, if we are, is you supposed (no confirmed existence) Czech platform supposed to impress us?

Umm...yeah,i guess so.

overhypedsteve:
thats good then, we can now send the virgin seekers off in a glorious cloud of smoke and debris. keep your eyes open for pics.

@Chief steve,duly noted.
your commanding tone is indeed motivating.

overhypedsteve:
leave those bagas, the JF17 was coded with the same C++ and this a code that any graduate from computer science can type in his sleep.

DictatorZAR:


Simple answer is the SAS Drakensburg 12500tons. It still remains the largest ever military vessel built in Africa.

Get your facts right before you comment

Oh........ the boat built by the apartheid government.

Yeah...... cute, try again.

Henry120:


Oh........ the boat built by the apartheid government.

Yeah...... cute, try again.

Yeah yet it remains bigger then any of your shiiiits you built in the last 100 years and its now in the hands of blacks so just go do your usual dreaming

DictatorZAR:


Yeah yet it remains bigger then any of your shiiiits you built in the last 100 years and its now in the hands of blacks so just go do your usual dreaming

Okay, you got it through executive fiat. You people didn't build it, same way you haven't ever built anything in that Defence industry.

Thanks for the clarification.


Patches689......... come see, this man confirms and corroborates my comments on the Afrikanner Defence industry.

Henry120:


Okay, you got it through executive fiat. You people didn't build it, same way you haven't ever built anything in that Defence industry.

Thanks for the clarification.


Patches689......... come see, this man confirms and corroborates my comments on the Afrikanner Defence industry.

The same way your useless Igbo's haven't built anything worth mentioning that's why you need the Chinese to built you useless lots your very first railway network.

The defense industry which is now under black management including black engineers who is currently working on the A-Datar. Your useless lots can't even maintain a single refinery Ooops!!! I forgot to date you still import 99,9% of all your energy needs.

agaugust:


A brigader general is a one star general and just one rank above a Colonel.

There are different ranks of generals, five different ranks. One star general, two star general, three star general, four star general, five star general. Nigeria has all of them aplenty with solid war experience from Liberia, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Niger Delta, and North East. That is a Nigerian army quality South African army will NEVER be able to match. Your SANDF will only excel in photography and Hollywood style videos
.

In most armed forces Brigadier Generals are not considered "generals".

Nigerian forces performed badly in both Sierra Leone and Liberia.

Solid what?

SANDF=Superior Command and control.

agaugust:


SAAF Gripen jets barks more than it can bite....Toothless bulldog.

Critical missile shortage....ONLY ONE missile per jet.

Poor missile range.....MAXIMUM 25 km.

SAAF $50 million Gripen jet = NAF $15 million F-7 jet.

South African air force....na wash
.

what's the range of the PL-9C?

SAAF has enough missiles to deter possible enemies.

A-Darter coming.
Marrlin coming.

andrewza:


We make missiles

25km is rather good for a IR missile.

You get what you pay for.

He forgets that 25km is BVR.

NaijaPikinGidi:


You are talking about your useless SANDF. The NA boasts of a rugged hands-on, practical and proactive army in rank and file! Every officer and soldier knows how to improvise on the field. Every General knows when to lead by example. Great army Generals (Napoleon, et al) led by example.

Now we see the real COWARDS OF AFRICA. True confessions of a spineless South African.

Na jeje we dey move!

Gone are the days when Generals has to guide their men with hands or voice commands.

Any General who's "heard" commanding from the front, will receive a special treatment.

Killing Generals gives you propaganda ammo, "Nigerian army General killed while desperately trying to.............."

DictatorZAR:


The same way your useless Igbo's haven't built anything worth mentioning that's why you need the Chinese to built you useless lots your very first railway network.

The defense industry which is now under black management including black engineers who is currently working on the A-Datar. Your useless lots can't even maintain a single refinery Ooops!!! I forgot to date you still import 99,9% of all your energy needs.

Whats your obssession with igbo guys?,did an igbo guy steal away your sister or girlfriend{or wife}?

DictatorZAR:


The same way your useless Igbo's haven't built anything worth mentioning that's why you need the Chinese to built you useless lots your very first railway network.

The defense industry which is now under black management including black engineers who is currently working on the A-Datar. Your useless lots can't even maintain a single refinery Ooops!!! I forgot to date you still import 99,9% of all your energy needs.

All this emotional outburst, just because the defence industry is 100% white, and mostly Afrikanner.

iterator24:
major role, minor role... a role was played...

No Nigerian ever bleed in Southern Africa.

Cause your oil installations and other important infrastructure would've been targeted by "commandos".

Henry120:


Oh........ the boat built by the apartheid government.

Yeah...... cute, try again.

It was South African engineers, scientists, physicists etc who worked on military projects not government ministers!

Try again when Nigeria builds an equivalent.