EzePromoe:

I've listen to this and as usual I'm bemused as to how some chords would fall in and I also have problems with soloing songs. Why is it like you weren't maintaining a steady tempo or is it just me? From the sound of the piano, the SUSTAIN was on and that make some chords sound awkward atimes. Why do most professionals like using SUSTAIN, do you think it will be better off when SUSTAIN is left off.

Dramadiddy:
well u know I don't have a drummer or singer.. So I wasn't playing to any tempo.. Sustain pedal is great .. But my piano doesn't have good sound

zbone:

correct guy
well done

Dramadiddy:
nna hwfr nw.. Voice something fr ur bro nw.. Let me tiff sum tins

zbone:


my oga, na at attention I dey o. i will drop sumtin soon sha, I have been really busy recently.
you're in school nw? how studies?

btw, I have been wanting us to talk on appergios, how to form them, fingering etc

*modified

nairaland is funny o
them they censor fing.ering to manipulation

EzePromoe:

Twas nice though. Pls do not forget to drop the breakdown you promised earlier. Thanks.

Karleb:


I noticed the awkwardness too but since it's gameboi and Dramadiddy endorses it, who am I to say otherwise?

That apart, as time goes on the ear will get used to it, the last time I checked, music is solely based on tension and release.


I'll go check them out, you should try out "smoothchord" too, they major in scoring songs.

I was talking about your video turned audio.

EzePromoe:
Hahaha. I'm so musically sensitive to errors that any slight one would reduce my momentum. Really I'm not as good as professionals who are good in covering up immediately there is an error. But sincerely just knowing the chords is not all but its really knowing what comes next. Apart from that A part playing chord Bb/G (G bass line and Bb chords) was really pleasant to my hearing.
I would sincerely appreciate it if you guys share more .amr or .mp3 files of how you play praises with the split function. No be Ariaria o, I mean correct Western. LOL.

gameboi:
Hehe! 'twasn't really an error per se. It's something I just thought of trying.

The mp3 or any other file will come Later. The Procedures for Joining the musical department of churches here is something else. And I don't have a personal keyboard.

Guy you're not alone on it o. In all these city churches, there are so many good keyboardists sitting on the sideline, so there is apparently no space for me. What I do is that I attend a church in the suburbs where I'm a crowned king at least

zbone:
So guys, this is just an idea on how to structure a chord and use it as an appergio run over a number of octaves, up the keyboard.
Before if I wanted to do an appergio, I would just strike the chord over three octaves going up, that's OK, but a cooler way is to play an inversion of the chord you are appergiating(i don't know if this word exist), cross over with left hand and play a single note which is a member of that chord, then with your right play another inversion, a note with the left hand another inversion and it goes on and on like that.
I will use a Cmaj chord to explain better. if I want to play an appergio of a Cmaj chord as a run up the keyboard,
-I will play the first inversion of Cmaj which is (E G C) with my right hand
-cross my left hand over my right hand hit E (which is a member of the Cmaj chord
-naturally my right hand will fall on Cmaj second inversion (G C E)
-cross my left hand over my right again, but this time I hit G
-finally with the right hand play the Cmaj chord in root position, but double the root ( C E G C ).

N.B: it is good to practice this slowly, then build up speed. playing your appergio like this helps it to be connected and flowing with a sustain pedal.
you could use this idea on any chord(triad), major or minor
Hope this helps

EzePromoe:

Guy you're not alone on it o. In all these city churches, there are so many good keyboardists sitting on the sideline, so there is apparently no space for me. What I do is that I attend a church in the suburbs where I'm a crowned king at least

gameboi:
Haha! That's how it should be. You have to stay where your ministry moves. As for me, the churches I visited don't really have keyboardists that are better than me. The department is only scared of a change of style. So, I was told to be persistent for some months in order to get accustomed to their style of play. But I don't have such time. You won't believe when I saw one of the keyboardist Solo-ing with Chords. The sound was so awkward. Shey na that kind thing me wan Learn?

That's Ariaria style for you. When you try to introduce the 'city' pattern, it will look as if you're going out of key. That's just the down side of it. I do adopt sha just to get closer to the keyboard but I mix both genres. I'll try and upload a snippet mp3 file after tomorrow service.

EzePromoe:

Wait a minute.

When the left hand is on E, the right hand should be on E-G-C like you said. Should that on the right hand be simultaneous or alternating? I need a better explanation. It will be best if you upload an MP3 or .amr file of what an appergio looks like. Thanks.

gameboi:
Yea, I wanted a bit of tension in it. Most times I play a III7#5 chord for a bit of tension. It just depends on Preference.

I'll visit that site too.

You won't believe if I tell you that I've not gone to church.

EzePromoe:

That's Ariaria style for you. When you try to introduce the 'city' pattern, it will look as if you're going out of key. That's just the down side of it. I do adopt sha just to get closer to the keyboard but I mix both genres. I'll try and upload a snippet mp3 file after tomorrow service.

zbone:


what's this Ariaria i keep hearing of on this thread, is some kind of dance style like azonto or something?

[b]@Karleb
Ariaria is a genre of church praise and worship peculiar to most conservative (or should I add local churches?) churches in the East and parts of the South (don't know of other places) where most church praises are highlife oriented. In this type of music, you rarely here any infusion of minor chords. All song must fall in within the primary chords of the key (majorly Fmajor) i.e in that steady progression 1-4-5, they use it to play any music in this world . They even solo with it in a rhythmic way and of course who love it more than their audience.
E.g An Ariaria keyboardist that play on key F wouldn't go beyond playing the F, Bb and C chords
Though Nowadays they've started expanding their horizons by adding the sixth i.e Dm7 (key F), the third Am7, the flat seventh Eb7 and the second Gm7 (that is for those that are experts o).

So generally speaking, all the augmented, diminished, dominant etc, are plainly OFF KEYS in a hot Ariaria session

Hope you understand?[/b]

EzePromoe:

[b]@Karleb
Ariaria is a genre of church praise and worship peculiar to most conservative (or should I add local churches?) churches in the East and parts of the South (don't know of other places) where most church praises are highlife oriented. In this type of music, you rarely here any infusion of minor chords. All song must fall in within the primary chords of the key (majorly Fmajor) i.e in that steady progression 1-4-5, they use it to play any music in this world . They even solo with it in a rhythmic way and of course who love it more than their audience.
E.g An Ariaria keyboardist that play on key F wouldn't go beyond playing the F, Bb and C chords
Though Nowadays they've started expanding their horizons by adding the sixth i.e Dm7 (key F), the third Am7, the flat seventh Eb7 and the second Gm7 (that is for those that are experts o).

So generally speaking, all the augmented, diminished, dominant etc, are plainly OFF KEYS in a hot Ariaria session

Hope you understand?[/b]

Karleb:




Yeah, I get it.

So, Ariaria is just another word for Finger Imprisonment. Imagine restricting yourself to just 3 houses in the whole of Nigeria.

No wonder gameboi couldn't adapt.

That is ehn
Anyway, it's what their audience love dancing to

Karleb:




Yeah, I get it.

So, Ariaria is just another word for Finger Imprisonment. Imagine restricting yourself to just 3 houses in the whole of Nigeria.

No wonder gameboi couldn't adapt.

zbone:
So guys, this is just an idea on how to structure a chord and use it as an appergio run over a number of octaves, up the keyboard.
Before if I wanted to do an appergio, I would just strike the chord over three octaves going up, that's OK, but a cooler way is to play an inversion of the chord you are appergiating(i don't know if this word exist), cross over with left hand and play a single note which is a member of that chord, then with your right play another inversion, a note with the left hand another inversion and it goes on and on like that.
I will use a Cmaj chord to explain better. if I want to play an appergio of a Cmaj chord as a run up the keyboard,
-I will play the first inversion of Cmaj which is (E G C) with my right hand
-cross my left hand over my right hand hit E (which is a member of the Cmaj chord
-naturally my right hand will fall on Cmaj second inversion (G C E)
-cross my left hand over my right again, but this time I hit G
-finally with the right hand play the Cmaj chord in root position, but double the root ( C E G C ).

N.B: it is good to practice this slowly, then build up speed. playing your appergio like this helps it to be connected and flowing with a sustain pedal.
you could use this idea on any chord(triad), major or minor
Hope this helps

Karleb:


Cool!

Do you have any idea about this walkdown pianist do from the higher treble to base?

zbone:


nyc you understand

i don't get your walkdown stuff o

Karleb:


How do I explain it sef.

It's just one nice walkdown like that, some people do it chromatically others do it on scale. I.e from the highest octave to the lowest.

Do you get it now?

zbone:


I think u mean like a descending run

Karleb:


Exactly!

zbone:


most of those runs are from practicing scales. you can form them, to suite whatever it is you're playing. so I would say practice your scales and they will just come naturally to you.

Karleb:


Just when I thought there is a secret formula somewhere!!

Dramadiddy:
http://www.2shared.com/audio/qPf4fsHG/You_R_The_Pillar_That_Holds_My.html breakdown coming soon

Dramadiddy:
S d r// m l t m Ebmaj13add11
S l d r// fi t m Ebmaj13add11
Mo tau r// tau mo s Bmaj7
L t// s d r f Bbmin13
Zi tau// fi t di m Amin13
S r// s l r Ebsus9
S d r// m l t m Ebmaj13add11
S l d r// fi t m Ebmaj13add11
Mo tau r// tau mo s Bmaj7
L t// s d r f Bbmin13
Zi tau// fi t di m Amin13
S r// s l r Ebsus9
L m s// s d m Fmin7
R l d//fi tau r Bbdom#5
Tau m l//r s d F#maj7#11
//r s t Ebmaj
F d//d m s l Dbmaj9
Fi l di//mo mi zi ti Dmin13
Fi t mo zi// fi tau r Ddom13#5add11
Zi m//zi ti di m Emaj6
L s//s t r Fmin11
R l d//d f l Bbmin7
M zi r//f s t Cdomb9b10
T//f zi t r Gdim7
D s//tau d f l d Abdom13add11