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JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 3:26pm On Mar 09, 2015 |
Jesus is the most important person who has ever lived since he is the Savior, God in human flesh. He is not half God and half man. He is fully divine and fully man. In other words, Jesus has two distinct natures: divine and human. Jesus is the Word who was God and was with God and was made flesh (John 1:1, 14). This means that in the single person of Jesus he has both a human and divine nature, God and man. The divine nature was not changed when the Word became flesh (John 1:1, 14). Instead, the Word was joined with humanity (Col. 2:9). Jesus'divine nature was not altered. Also, Jesus is not merely a man who "had God within Him," nor is he a man who "manifested the God principle." He is God in flesh, second person of the Trinity. "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word." (Heb. 1:3). Jesus' two natures are not "mixed together" (Eutychianism), nor are they combined into a new God-man nature (Monophysitism). They are separate yet act as a unit in the one person of Jesus. This is called the Hypostatic Union. The following chart should help you see the two natures of Jesus "in action": NUMBER 1: As GOD: He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2, 11; 14:33) As MAN: He worshiped the Father (John 17 ) NUMBER 2: As GOD: He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8 ) As MAN: He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5) NUMBER 3: As GOD: He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1) As MAN: He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37) NUMBER 4: As GOD: He is prayed to (Acts 7:59) As MAN: He prayed to the Father (John 17) NUMBER 5: As GOD: He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15) As MAN: He was tempted (Matt. 4:1) NUMBER 6: As GOD: He knows all things (John 21:17) As MAN: He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52) NUMBER 7: As GOD: He gives eternal life (John 10:28) As MAN: He died (Rom. 5:8 ) NUMBER 8: As GOD: All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9) As MAN: He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39) NUMBER 9: As GOD: He referred His my mother and my brethren as those who hear the word of God and do it. (Luke 8:19-21) As MAN: He obeyed his earthly mother as a man (John 2) IS JESUS GOD? DID JESUS EVER CLAIM TO BE GOD? CLICK THIS LINK FOR MORE DETAILS: http://thewordofgoddaily..com/2015/03/is-jesus-god-did-jesus-ever-claim-to-be.html The Communicatio Idiomatum A doctrine that is related to the Hypostatic Union is the communicatio idiomatum (Latin for "communication of properties" ). This is the teaching that the attributes of both the divine and human natures are ascribed to the one person of Jesus. This means that the man Jesus could lay claim to the glory He had with the Father before the world was made (John 17:5), claim that He descended from heaven (John 3:13), and also claim omnipresence (Matt. 28:20). All of these are divine qualities that are laid claim to by Jesus; therefore, the attributes of the divine properties were claimed by the person of Jesus. One of the most common errors that non-Christian cults make is not understanding the two natures of Christ. For example, the Jehovah's Witnesses focus on Jesus' humanity and ignore His divinity. They repeatedly quote verses dealing with Jesus as a man and try to set them against Scripture showing that Jesus is also divine. On the other hand, the Christian Scientists do the reverse. They focus on the Scriptures showing Jesus' divinity to the extent of denying His true humanity. For a proper understanding of Jesus and, therefore, all other doctrines that relate to Him, His two natures must be properly understood and defined. Jesus is one person with two natures. This is why He would grow in wisdom and stature (Luke 2:52) and yet know all things (John 21:17). He is the Divine Word that became flesh (John 1:1, 14). The Bible is about Jesus (John 5:39). The prophets prophesied about Him (Acts 10:43). The Father bore witness of Him (John 5:37; 8:18). The Holy Spirit bore witness of Him (John 15:26). The works Jesus did bear witness of Him (John 5:36; 10:25). The multitudes bore witness of Him (John 12:17). And, Jesus bore witness of Himself (John 14:6; 18:6). Other verses to consider when examining His deity are John 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:6-8; and 2 Pet. 1:1. 1 Tim. 2:5 says, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Right now, there is an advocate in heaven on the throne of God. He is our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). He is our Savior (Titus 2:13). He is our Lord (Rom. 10:9-10). He is Jesus. SOURCES: http://thewordofgoddaily..com/2015/03/jesus-two-natures-god-and-man.html http://thewordofgoddaily..com/2015/03/is-jesus-god-did-jesus-ever-claim-to-be.html 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by CAPTIVATOR: 3:39pm On Mar 09, 2015 |
AS MAN, AS GOD ! That classification was done by humans NOT the scripture . When u see something extra ordinary , u say it signifies God . When u see a display of weakness, u say it signifies Man . But pls make it clear, YOU SAID JESUS STILL HAVE THE NATURE OF MAN IN HEAVEN , whats the meaning of this ? 1) are u sayin Jesus Christ is still prone to human weakness in heaven ? 2) or are u sayin Jesus still have a body of human, which means Jesus still have KIDNEY, BLOOD, LIVER, PANCREAS, TONGUE , INTESTINE e. T. C Pls be clear |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by trustman: 6:21pm On Mar 09, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR: Jesus Christ now possesses a resurrection body. See 1 Corinthians 15:42-49. That body is not subject to issues that plague the earthly body. 1 Like |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by dolphinheart(m): 3:26pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by dolphinheart(m): 3:27pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by dolphinheart(m): 4:12pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof: For one, the scriptures never explicitly state that jesus has two natures . Now let's look at ur scriptural proves Mat 2:2 New International Version and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him. Douay-Rheims Bible Saying, Where is he that is born king of the Jews? For we have seen his star in the east, and are come to adore him. Darby Bible Translation Where is the king of the Jews that has been born? for we have seen his star in the east, and have come to do him homage. Weymouth New Testament inquiring, "Where is the newly born king of the Jews? For we have seen his Star in the east, and have come here to do him homage." NWT saying: “Where is the one born king+ of the Jews? For we saw his star[when we were] in the east, * and we have come to do him obeisance.” As you can see ,(Matt 2:11 and 14:33 inclusive) not all bible translations used the word "worship" in those verses ,why? Explanations Will be giving below The issue here is the word that is being translated to "worship" by some translations , we will look at the word and also look at What the scriptures is really saying. "A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature" says this about that Greek word : "used to designate the custom of prostrating oneself before a person and kissing his feet, the hem of his garment, the ground." [Source - A Greek- English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature by Bauer, Arndt, Gingrich, Danker; Second English Edition, Page 716, pub. 1979 in Chicago]. The act of bowing, kneeling, prostrating the body, or making some other gesture to betoken submission; or simply the paying of respect. It adequately translates the Hebrew hish·ta·chawah′ and the Greek pro·sky·ne′o in many cases.(u can make research on those words) Hish·ta·chawah′ means, basically, “bow down.” (Ge 18:2) Such bowing might be done as an act of respect or deference toward another human, as to a king ( 1Sa 24:8; 2Sa 24:20; Ps 45:11), the high priest (1Sa 2:36), a prophet (2Ki 2:15), or other person of authority (Ge 37:9, 10; 42:6; Ru 2:8-10), to an elder relative (Ge 33:1-6; 48:11, 12; Ex 18:7; 1Ki 2:19), or even to strangers as an expression of courteous regard ( Ge 19:1, 2). Abraham bowed down to the Canaanite sons of Heth from whom he sought to buy a burial place. ( Ge 23:7) Isaac’s blessing on Jacob called for national groups and Jacob’s own “brothers” to bow down to him. ( Ge 27:29; compare 49:8.) When men started to bow down before David’s son Absalom, he grabbed them and kissed them (2Sa 15:5, 6) From the above examples it is clear that this Hebrew term of itself does not necessarily have a religious sense or signify worship. Nevertheless, in a large number of cases it is used in connection with worship, either of the true God (Ex 24:1; Ps 95:6; Isa 27:13; 66:23) or of false gods. (De 4:19; 8:19; 11:16) Persons might bow down in prayer to God (Ex 34:8; Job 1:20, 21) and often prostrated themselves upon receiving some revelation from God or some expression or evidence of his favor, thereby showing their gratitude, reverence, and humble submission to his will.—Ge 24:23-26, 50-52; Ex 4:31; 12:27, 28; 2Ch 7:3; 20:14-19 ; Bowing down to humans as an act of respect was admissible, but bowing to anyone other than Jehovah as a deity was prohibited by God. ( Ex 23:24; 34:14) Obeisance in the Christian Greek Scriptures. The Greek pro·sky·ne′o corresponds closely to the Hebrew hish·ta·chawah′ as to conveying the thought of both obeisance to creatures and worship to God or a deity. The manner of expressing the obeisance is perhaps not so prominent in pro·sky·ne′o as in hish·ta·chawah′, where the Hebrew term graphically conveys the thought of prostration or bowing down. Scholars derive the Greek term from the verb ky·ne′o, “kiss.” The usage of the word in the Christian Greek Scriptures (as also in the Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Scriptures) shows that persons to whose actions the term is applied prostrated themselves or bowed down.— Mt 2:11; 18:26; 28:9. As with the Hebrew term, the context must be considered to determine whether pro·sky·ne′o refers to obeisance solely in the form of deep respect or obeisance in the form of religious worship. Where reference is directly to God (Joh 4:20-24; 1Co 14:25; Re 4:10) or to false gods and their idols (Ac 7:43; Re 9:20), it is evident that the obeisance goes beyond that acceptably or customarily rendered to men and enters the field of worship. So, too, where the object of the obeisance is left unstated, its being directed to God is understood. (Joh 12:20; Ac 8:27; 24:11; Heb 11:21; Re 11:1 ) On the other hand, the action of those of “the synagogue of Satan” who are made to “come and do obeisance” before the feet of Christians is clearly not worship. — Re 3:9.(take note of that verse and read it up in different translations ) Obeisance to a human king is found in Jesus’ illustration at Matthew 18:26. It is evident that this was the kind of obeisance that the astrologers rendered to the child Jesus, “born king of the Jews,” that Herod professed interest in expressing, and that the soldiers mockingly rendered to Jesus before his impalement. They clearly did not view Jesus as God or as a deity. ( Mt 2:2, 8; Mr 15:19) While some translators use the word “worship” in the majority of cases where pro·sky·ne′o describes persons’ actions toward Jesus, the evidence does not warrant one’s reading too much into this rendering. Rather, the circumstances that evoked the obeisance correspond very closely to those producing obeisance to the earlier prophets and kings. (Compare Mt 8:2; 9:18; 15:25; 20:20 with 1Sa 25:23, 24; 2Sa 14:4-7; 1Ki 1:16; 2Ki 4:36, 37 .) The very expressions of those involved often reveal that, while they clearly recognized Jesus as God’s representative, they rendered obeisance to him, not as to God or a deity, but as “God’s Son,” the foretold “Son of man,” the Messiah with divine authority. On many occasions their obeisance expressed a gratitude for divine revelation or evidence of favor like that expressed in earlier times.—Mt 14:32, 33; 28:5-10, 16-18; Lu 24:50-52; Joh 9:35, 38 . Now who made the statements in mat 2:2, the statement was made by astrologers from the east (probably Babylon ) who by their customs bow down to kings and offer him presents . Consider some facts: The “wise men” were not what we would today call academics; neither were they kings. They were, as most modern English translations read, “astrologers.” They engaged in a practice condemned in the Holy Scriptures. ( Deuteronomy 18:10-12) Note that only these astrologers were reported to have “seen” the star. If the star had been an actual star, it would have been as visible as a beacon to the public in general. But even King Herod had to ask them about the details of its appearance. This star guided the astrologers first to Jerusalem, to Herod, a mortal enemy of the future Messiah. He intended to kill the child Jesus. Then the star shifted direction and led the astrologers south to Bethlehem where Jesus was, thus placing Jesus’ life in danger. These facts give evidence that the star was from an evil source, most likely Satan the Devil. The Bible describes him as using “lying signs and portents.” ( 2 Thessalonians 2:9) To please dnt be confused about the word "worship to state jesus is God . |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by trustman: 4:53pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
dolphinheart: Certainly his audience understood clearly what he meant by his words that we find their reactions pointing this out like in John 5:18 "This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." Or John 10: 30 I and the Father are one." 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?" 33 The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God." And this: John 8 "58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple." The entire discuss speaks for itself. You may need to read all of it. The 'I am' of verse 58 was very clear to Jesus' audience and should be clear to us too. He was telling them that he is Yahweh, the God of Israel. It was unmistakable. There was no ambiguity. So, over and over again, Jesus did say that he is God. Yet he was also true humanity and so could speak as different from God the father. He had to come as true humanity for the plan of incarnation necessary for mankind's salvation to be fulfilled. That Jesus Christ is God is not an invention of man but a clear declaration of Scripture. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Ubenedictus(m): 6:35pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Protestants can be funny, first they condemn the catholic church then they go and teach catholic doctrines. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Nobody: 9:39pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof:Are you also aware that this dogma was taught and defended by the Catholic Church 1200 years before Protestantism. It is therefore a Catholic teaching that Protestants are copying. If your source was unbiased it should mainly have referenced the Catholic Council of Chalcedon. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Nobody: 9:41pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Ubenedictus:He obviously is not aware that the Hypostatic Union is a Catholic teaching with nothing to do with their sola scriptura. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Shirley07: 10:03pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Jesus is no God. If he is, he wouldn't tell us he's going to prepare a room in his father's house. If he is, he wouldn't be at the right hand of his father. If he is, he wouldn't say he doesn't know the time he's coming back but only his father does. If he is, he wouldn't pray to his father when he was on earth. If he is, he wouldn't have cried 'Father, why hath thou forsaken me'' on the cross. What I'm saying is Christ is the son of God, the Word and breath of God that was made into human. He's not God. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 10:16pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Papist: As I said before that any doctrine that is against the true teachings of the Bible is a deception or lie from satan himself. 90% of the CATHOLIC DOCTRINES are practically against the totality of gospel of Christ Jesus and they are lies from satan HIMSELF. Most of these doctrines tend to exalt and praise Mary far more than Jesus who was present at the creation of this world and whom the Bible declares THE WORD OF GOD. The Christians preach the gospel of Christ alone for the salvation of dying souls but the Catholics are practically preaching the anti-Bible teachings and doctrines of "Catholic Mary" (whom we don't know but surely not the Mary of the Bible). Because the Catholics and the Christians have similar doctrines now, so you want the Christians to give praise to the Catholic Church? Kamari!!! God forbid!!! but rather we will give praise to the Holy Spirit, THE INTERPRETER of the WORD which dwells in us. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 10:34pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Shirley07: Sir, apologies for this- it is very obvious that you did not study all what I posted above nor opened your Bible to study the verses quoted above. Surprisingly, you admitted that Jesus is the Son of God but not God. Then, DO YOU BELIEVE THIS STATEMENT- "JESUS IS LORD"? Expecting your reply! Okay! By God's grace tomorrow, I will show you and anyone who might be asking this question-DID JESUS HIMSELF SAY THAT HE IS GOD according to the Bible? Please sir, do not miss this undiluted expository delivery via the Holy Spirit. Good Night Sir |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Shirley07: 10:48pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof:Jesus is Lord but there's Lord and LORD which Christ made us to understand in Matt 22:42-45. The scripture reads ''Saying, what think ye of Christ? Whose son is he? They say unto him, the son of David. 43. He saith unto them, how then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, sit thou on my right hand till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?''. As you can see, there's Lord and there's LORD. I repeat Jesus is no God. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by CAPTIVATOR: 11:32pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof: WHAT differentiate you from Catholics ? OKAY , TAKE THIS TEST U believe that Jesus is God, if YES ... DO U ALSO AGREE with them That Mary is the mother of God ? |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by CAPTIVATOR: 11:36pm On Mar 10, 2015 |
Ubenedictus: Do you also know whats funny about this protestants ? They shout Jesus is God , YET reject and blasphem catholics when catholics say Mary is the mother of God |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Nobody: 6:48am On Mar 11, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof:In other words you have nothing intelligent to say. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Nobody: 6:52am On Mar 11, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR:You know what else? I am a Catholic and I believe that Jesus is God and that Mary is therefore the Mother of God. I challenge Adeyiniprof and other like minded Protestants to call Mary the Mother of God if they truelly believe that Jesus is God. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by tartar9(m): 7:00am On Mar 11, 2015 |
how can someone be Fully man and Fully God at the same time? |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 12:37pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
tartar9: Thanks for your question! If you have read what I posted above and still don't understand, I will make it clearer to you via the following: LET US START WITH: Jesus Is Fully Human Jesus has a human body, emotions, mind, and will. And this in no way compromises his deity. When the Word became flesh—when the eternal Son of God took on full humanity—he did not merely become human in part. He fully became truly human. In John chapter 1: Verse 1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Verse 2: The same was in the beginning with God. Verse 14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. JESUS’ HUMAN BODY: It is clear enough from the New Testament that Jesus has a human body. John 1:14 means at least this, and more: “The Word became flesh.” PROOFS OF JESUS’ HUMAN BODY: (a) Jesus’ humanity is one of the first tests of orthodoxy (1 John 4:2; 2 John 7). (b) Jesus was born (Luke 2:7). (c) He grew (Luke 2:40, 52). (d) He grew tired (John 4:6) and (e) He got thirsty (John 19:28) and (f) He was hungry (Matthew 4:2). (g) He became physically weak (Matthew 4:11; Luke 23:26). (h) He died (Luke 23:46). (i) And he had a real human body after his resurrection (Luke 24:39; John 20:20, 27). PROOFS OF JESUS’ HUMAN EMOTIONS: Throughout the Gospels, Jesus clearly displays human emotions. (a) When Jesus heard the centurion’s words of faith, “he marveled” (Matthew 8:10). (b) He says in Matthew 26:38 that his “soul is very sorrowful, even to death.” (c) In John 11:33–35, Jesus is “deeply moved in his spirit and greatly troubled” and even weeps. (d) John 12:27 says, “Now is my soul troubled,” (e) and in John 13:21, he is “troubled in his spirit.” (f) The author to the Hebrews writes that “Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears” (Hebrews 5:7) (g) John Calvin memorably summed it up: “Christ has put on our feelings along with our flesh.” PROOFS OF JESUS’ HUMAN MIND: Jesus also has a human mind. Two key texts make this undeniable: Luke 2:52: “Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man.” Mark 13:32: “Concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” The second verse, of course, is striking. For Christians who clearly affirm Jesus’ deity, Mark 13:32 seems like trouble. But what looks difficult at first glance proves to be a glorious confirmation of Jesus’ humanity. If Jesus is God and God knows everything, how can Jesus not know when his second coming will be? In addition to being fully divine, Jesus is fully human. He has both an infinite, divine mind and a finite, human mind. He can be said not to know things because he is human and finite—human minds are not omniscient. And Jesus can be said to know all things (according to John 21:17) because he is divine and infinite in his knowledge. Paradoxical as it is, we must affirm that Jesus both knows all things and does not know all things. For the unique, two-natured person of Christ, this is no contradiction but a peculiar glory of the God-man. Fully Divine, Fully Human Jesus is like us in every respect—human body, heart, mind, and will—except for sin (Hebrews 2:17; 4:15). How amazing that the divine Son of God would not just take on part of our humanity but all of it—and then take that true humanity all the way to the cross for us. Jesus took a human body to save our bodies. And he took a human mind to save our minds. Without becoming man in his emotions, he could not have saved our emotions. And without taking a human will, he could not save our will. In the words of Gregory of Nazianzus, “That which he has not assumed he has not healed.” He became man in full so that he might save us in full. Hallelujah! What a marvelous Savior! COMING BACK TO POST THE UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT JESUS DECLARED HIMSELF GOD and I will also show you what happened when He made the declaration.....Typing THANK YOU SIR!!! |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 2:06pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
tartar9: THE UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT JESUS DECLARED HIMSELF GOD - FULLY GOD Please sir, study the following with mind to learn something new or to remind you something you may not notice. LET US BEGIN: Yahweh, which in English is translated Jehovah, is indeed one of the names of God and it is found no less than 6,823 times in the Old Testament! One of the reasons there is confusion is that at some point in time, pious Jews thought it was irreverent to use this name and they exchanged the word Yahweh with the Hebrew word adonay, which in English is translated Lord. The majority of English translations use the words THE LORD instead of the proper word Jehovah. I know of only two translations that use the word Jehovah, the “New Translation” by John Nelson Darby and the “American Standard Version.” The word Yahweh means “the ever-existing One.” The significance of this name is brought out beautifully in Exodus 3:13-15 which says, “And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, “What is His name? What shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Jehovah, the God of your fathers, The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is My name forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations” (ASV). Here is the first time that God actually revealed Himself to His people as Jehovah, the great I AM. Again, Yahweh, or Jehovah, means “the ever-existing One,” so in those sublime words, I AM, God was proclaiming Himself as self-existent, self-sufficient, and eternal! It should be mentioned that the first name for God recorded in the Bible is the Hebrew word Elohim, which is translated God in Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” The word Elohim means “the Supreme.” But more often than not, when that word is used it is preceded by the word Yahweh, so we read, in most scripture references, the words Yahweh Elohim, which in English would be Jehovah God or the LORD GOD. God is indeed the “ever-existing One” who is also “the Supreme!” The indisputable fact that the Yahweh of the Old Testament is none other than Jesus Christ in the New Testament is shown below: In John 8:56-58 we have this remarkable dialogue between Jesus and some religious Jews, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto Him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.” Notice, Jesus didn’t say, “Before Abraham was, I was.” He said, “Before Abraham was, I am.” He used the very same name that God used in Exodus 3:13-14 in talking to Moses, thus He was stating, in no uncertain terms, that He is the great ‘I AM’! In comparing Isaiah 40:3 with Mark 1:1-3, we see the same sublime truth. Isaiah 40:3 declares, “The voice of one that crieth, Prepare ye in the wilderness the way of Jehovah; make level in the desert a highway for our God” (ASV). In Mark 1:1-3 we read, “The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Even as it is written in Isaiah the prophet, Behold I send my messenger before thy face, Who shall prepare thy way. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make ye ready the way of the Lord, Make His paths straight.” This wonderful prophecy was fulfilled by John the Baptist and Jesus Christ! John prepared the way of Jehovah and thus JESUS IS JEHOVAH! He is “God,” the great “I AM,” the “ever-existent One!” What a revelation this is for faith to lay hold of! We that are saved can say of Jesus, as Thomas did in John 20:28, “My Lord and my God.” MY LORD!!! I BOW BEFORE YOU FOR THIS GREAT REVELATION YOU ARE ALONE TO BE EXALTED HALLELUJAH!!! COMING BACK TO POST THIS QUESTION - IS JESUS CHRIST STILL HUMAN IN HEAVEN?............Typing |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by tartar9(m): 2:07pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof:how is it possible for the externaly infinite God assume finite human(flesh) form? and why is such even necessary in the first place. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 2:36pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
tartar9: Jesus took a human body to save our bodies. And he took a human mind to save our minds. Without becoming man in his emotions, he could not have saved our emotions. And without taking a human will, he could not save our will. Besides, when Jesus was tempted by the devil, he exhibited here His human nature by applying the word of God to subdue the temptation from the devil. The lesson learnt here is that we should always apply the word of God when we face any form of temptation. However, there is no way you will use what you don't know. You must study and practise the word of God before you use it. If not because of the human nature of Jesus, people would have had a lot of excuses before God like the reason why they keep falling into temptation is because Jesus came in His Divine nature alone. What I am trying to explain here is that Jesus, at some points in the Bible, is called the Son of God but somewhere else called the Son of Man. Jesus, at some points in the Bible, is prayed to but somewhere else He prayed to His Father. Hebrews 4:15-16 says, "For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need" (NKJV). Talk about having friends in high places. The Bible is saying that you are not serving a God who is disinterested in you. You are not serving a God who doesn't know what it is like to literally walk in your shoes. So you can go boldly to the throne of grace and find grace to help in time of need. Jesus Christ, who was God in human form, never lived for a moment outside of the perfect will of God. He never gave in to a temptation. He never had an impure thought. He never did one wrong thing. He never displeased His Father in the smallest matter. He was flawless. He was sinless. He was perfect. So why did Jesus come to earth as God in human form? Was it to give us the ultimate teachings ever? No. Though they were the greatest teachings ever given, He came here for more than that. Did Jesus come to set the perfect example of how a man or woman should live? He came to do that and much more. Did Jesus walk this earth merely to do miracles and heal people? While He always reached out to people in need, that was not His primary purpose. [size=20pt]"The Son of God became a man that men might become sons of God." [/size]God became a man so that you might become God's child. Now that is something worth celebrating. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 3:06pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN JESUS SAID CATEGORICALLY THAT "BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM"? John 8:59 King James Version (KJV) Verse 59: Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. * Before Abraham was, I Am: this is the third time in this chapter Jesus uses the phrase I Am (Joh. 8:24, 8:28), and here in Joh. 8:58. * I Am: The ancient Greek phrase is ego emi, which is the same term used in the Greek translation of the Old Testament in Jesus' day to describe the Voice from the burning bush. * In using the phrase I Am (Joh. 8:24, 8:58, 13:19) Jesus used a clear divine title belonging to Yahweh alone (Exo. 3:13-14, Deu. 32:39, Isa. 43:10) and was interpreted as such by Jesus' listeners (Joh. 8:58-59). * "The phrase harbours within itself the most authentic, the most audacious, and the most profound affirmation by Jesus of who He was." * [size=20pt]The best proof what Jesus meant by claiming to be the I Am is found by seeing the response of His listeners: They took up stones to throw at Him. They wanted to stone Him for blasphemy, for claiming to be God.[/size] * But it could not happen, even as it could not happen back at Joh. 7:30, because His hour had not yet come. * The remarkable theme through this whole chapter is expressed strongly at the end: Jesus is in perfect unity with God the Father, because He Himself is God. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Ubenedictus(m): 3:08pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof: this just shows you know very little of catholic doctrines, there are over 100 dogmas in the catholic church, only 4 of them are about mary so how can you claim that 90 percent of catholic doctrines are exalting mary above Jesus. That is a false accusation, a lie, God doesn't condone lies. And yes, the doctrine of the hypostatic union is a catholic doctrine defined long before protestanism started. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Ubenedictus(m): 3:22pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof:i hope you are aware that the quote above is from st Athanasius. You are really borrowing catholic teaching |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 3:26pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Ubenedictus: JUST WAIT AND BEHOLD THEM ONE BY ONE AS I, BY GOD'S GRACE, CREATE TOPICS FOR THEM ALL EITHER HERE OR ON MY BLOGS. As I said before, the list of these false doctrines I have with me here is too massive. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by tartar9(m): 3:28pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof:you didn't answer the first question.and does the all-powerful God now need to take human body(which is impossible) before He can save. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 3:32pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
Ubenedictus: Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. It is not catholic teaching but Biblical teaching. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by Ubenedictus(m): 3:40pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
adeniyitheprof:not close enough, the quote in your post wasn't from the bible it was from athanasius. |
Re: JESUS' TWO NATURES: GOD AND MAN by adeniyitheprof(m): 3:50pm On Mar 11, 2015 |
tartar9: Who are you and what are your motives of your questions before I continue answering you? This is to know how to answer you properly and because time is so precious that I do not waste it on whom I know is looking for ways to rubbish the Words in the BIBLE or rubbish Jesus or God. I do not know whether to tell you to open your Bible or not because I do not know who are. Scripturally sound Christians will NOT be asking the type of questions you have been asking me and even if you are just a church goer, you should have understood all my posts and replies with the opening of your BIBLE. A Christian? A Catholic? A Muslim? or An atheist? and your motives? - If you don't answer these questions, then this reply will be my final one to you sir. Your username has been marked! As per your question above, I have already answered you properly. |
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