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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:12pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
All I saw was a loud mouth defending failure of our corrupt government to work for and protect its own people - truly pathetic ! agaugust: |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:15pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:25pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
saengine: [size=16pt]Equatorial Guinea MRAPs....REVA MK III http://worlddefencenews..com/2014/03/south-african-company-icp-has-sold-12.html .[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:02pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
agaugust: these south africans are dumb rats. we bought mk v and they still post mk III as ours. i'm really worried about their mental status. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:05pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
Patches689, Patchesagain, you dummy, read! Why is American airpower not stopping ISIS? The United States-led coalition has been bombing targets of the so-called Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) since August of last year. Hundreds of targets have been destroyed, and despite claims to the contrary by White House, Department of Defense and Department of State spokespersons, ISIS continues to mount attacks and seize territory. How can that be? Being attacked by the world's best air force - over 80 percent of the sorties are being flown by the U.S. Air Force - seems to have had little effect. This was driven home to me on a personal level when ISIS stormed several Assyrian villages in the al-Hasakah area of Syria. Several of my Arabic language instructors in the 1970s are of Assyrian descent, in fact many speak Aramaic/Syriac natively. Last week, the son of one of these instructors called to tell me he had just spoken to family members in Tal Tamr (about 20 miles northwest of al-Hasakah), the first Assyrian town seized by ISIS fighters. The town sits at a strategic intersection. According to Yoni, 40 trucks - mostly equipped with machine guns - blew into town and killed the first six men they encountered. They then burned the church and rounded up all the women and children they could find. The children were being held in cages under threat of being burned alive. ISIS offered to exchange the women for prisoners held by Syrian Kurds. (Some of these exchanges later took place). His question to me, "Why can't we see 40 armed trucks in a convoy and take them out?" My thought process as I searched for an answer: I initially thought that maybe there were not enough targets for the pilots to attack. Then I took a look at the suite of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) assets - manned, unmanned and strategic - and deduced we must have virtual synoptic coverage of the areas of interest in Syria and Iraq. When you look at a map and the vast areas under ISIS control - about the size of Great Britain - most of it is just empty desert. The main areas of interest are in the river valleys: the Tigris, Euphrates, Khabur, Diyala, etc. Those we can cover. If we have decent sensor coverage of the area, the problem must be something in the command and control system. I was slow to come to this realization because I thought we had fixed this decades ago. The key to airpower is flexibility. My own experience in this goes back to the latter stages of the war in Vietnam. I was a Vietnamese linguist monitoring North Vietnamese communications, figuring out where the enemy was, passing that information to command and control elements who would try to direct attack aircraft onto those targets. This was over 40 years ago using the technology of the day. Surely we have improved. Actually, I know we improved. Those of us who remained in the Air Force after Vietnam developed the intelligence-operations cycle to the point that our collection of information from a variety of sensors - imagery, electronic, communications, signatures, etc. - could be used to put weapons on targets inside of an enemy's decision cycle. In other words, use intelligence to guide kinetic operations before the enemy knows what hit him. We did this well in Operation Desert Storm. Decisions were made at the tactical level - targets were hit when discovered. We also designated areas in which pilots were free to engage targets as they appeared. One of the tactics was to delineate "kill boxes" in which no friendly forces were present. Anything that appeared to be military was engaged - it had a devastating effect on the Iraqis. We have regressed. I am not sure why, but we seem to be operating in a zero-defect environment. That is political-speak for not killing any innocent people in the conduct of military operations. While we try to minimize civilian casualties, it is after all, war - people are going to be killed. No one advocates a cavalier attitude toward the application of airpower, but you cannot paralyze your armed forces because innocent people may be killed. (Okay, cue the hate email.) What follows is from a current U.S. Air Force pilot, who we will call Chris (tac callsign "Hedgehog". According to Chris, all the lessons learned in Vietnam, and used effectively during the first Gulf War, have been forgotten. This really bothers those of us who fought hard to institutionalize the tactics developed from the lessons we learned the hard way. In Chris's words: "The level of centralized execution, bureaucracy and politics is appalling. Pilots have no decision making authority in the cockpit. Unless a general can look at a video from an ISR sensor, we cannot get authority to engage. I've spent hours watching a screen in my cockpit as ISIS commits atrocities, but I cannot do anything. The fear of making a mistake is now the hallmark of American military leadership. "We are not taking the fight to the enemy. Their centers of gravity are in al-Raqqah, but we don't attack there. Truck traffic flows on the roads between Syria and Iraq unimpeded. We often orbit for hours over a suspected target, waiting for a decision to engage. Trust me, we pilots are trying to get the job done, despite the bureaucracy." There is a problem, yes, but it is not in the theater of operations - it is in Washington and Tampa (U.S. Central Command headquarters at MacDill Air Force Base). You have placed trained, committed American Airmen in harm's way to execute the military option as part of American foreign policy. Get out of the way and let them do their jobs. Our pilots know what the bad guys look like - let our pilots kill them. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:06pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
for that dumb msausa who believed that rubbish article that mercs are flying surveilance for us. oya show me how many mercs you see here in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtQQsnS7udM dumb rats who'll believe anything they read from westerners without scrutiny 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:09pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
stillchris: Link not working. Post better link. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:14pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
Henry120: there. made a mistake with the previous one. would be nice if more journalists are given access to the battlefields to shut these pigs and their western ignorant journalists up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtQQsnS7udM 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:32pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
stillchris: Fvcking nice video!!! This is what those fvcktards want to claim after dismissing the Nigerian military. They now want a piece of the action. The video is great, only if we can also get photographs to go with them. B@stards want to reap where they did not sow.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:55pm On Mar 12, 2015 |
stillchris: [size=16pt]••Hot Shot.....Bullet ! ••[/size] . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:27am On Mar 13, 2015 |
agaugust: I can show you a video of a railgun... can we then say that America has railguns? You said that countermeasures would defeat our torpedo and NATO would sink our sub in 10min Which NATO vessels have torpedo countermeasures? Why cant you answer my questions? Here they are: 1. How does detection mean automatic death of the submarine? 2. How effective are ships at detecting torpedoes? 3. How will a ship detect a tiny torpedoe if it cannot detect the massive sub that fired it? 4. What countermeasures are currently in service with NATO and the NN? Until you answer the above 4 questions, the salient fact remains this: A SAN submarine sunk an entire NATO task-force 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:27am On Mar 13, 2015 |
agaugust: And Dangote is now practically broke |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:29am On Mar 13, 2015 |
agaugust: What has happened, is that out of 150 million Nigerians, your government cannot find a handfull of mechanics and so is paying hundreds of thousands of dollars (per man) for us to do it for you 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:32am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Henry120: First, that is pretty peasant teir training Second, that is not how you do it - training them and then dispersing them amongst the army? Good way to dilute skills |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:34am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Msauza: hahahahhaha Black Napoleon my arse!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:36am On Mar 13, 2015 |
agaugust: Who has the system? Does any single nation operate the system? Does Nigeria? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:39am On Mar 13, 2015 |
agaugust: Go argue with the New York Times and other internationally respected pultzer prize winning organizations. Facts are facts: South Africans are liberating Nigeria |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:40am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Henry120: [size=13pt] Nigeria is winning her big war, everybody wants to claim share . LOL ....reaping where they did not sow, Nigerian military Napoleon generals and air marshals spent over 3 months planning this German style Blitzkrieg world class FINAL OFFENSIVE announced since last year, we waited for it, remember.... OCTOBER 2014 http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-ramps-up-in-major-offensive-against-boko-haram/191244/ MARCH 2015 List of thieves that want to steal Nigeria's glory 1. South Africa 2. Chad 3. Cameroon 4. Niger Republique 5. Britain....requests new joint officers training 6. USA....begs nigerian government to lift training embargo placed on America Thieves ...... Barawo Banza.... Oleee.....Jaguda....Thiefu Thiefu Jankorikoko !!! .[/size] 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:40am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Henry120: The truth has come out henry120 We are winning your war for you ~100 South African mercenaries > 20 000 Nigerian Soldiers 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:43am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Henry120: Why do you beleive everyone has an agenda? Integrity is everything for those publications. Facts are facts. We dont care about your opinion. You cannot spin this story South African mercenaries are liberating you, your army is utter incompetant Your hollywood videos dont change facts - we have seen video's of what your military actually looks like on the front lines. WSJ and major media sources confirm - South African mercenaries are winning the war for you |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:44am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Henry120: Your president is desperatly trying to cover his ass Facts are facts, NYT has blown your presidents story out the water. (This joker listens to politicians before the media?) |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:34am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Patchesagain: The man you call joker walks around the battlefield, the reporters publishing fake stories about ghost mercenaries are 7,000 kilometers away from battlefield Northern Nigeria, they sit down safely in their newspapers' New York and London offices copying stories from facebook comments of unknown people, then add their own salt and ajino-moto to sweeten the lies. Here is the man you call joker inside war zone, Napoleon Field Marshal Goodluck Jonathan, commander-in -chief and in-deed ! PHOTO : NAPOLEON FIELD MARSHAL GOODLUCK JONATHAN THE LION OF AFRICA IN BATTLE ! 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:47am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You must be extremely stup1d for this comment. "Who the fvck is new-york times, when the President of my country is speaking?". Are you high on drugs? You think Nigerians wake up in the morning with a defeatist mentality like you South-Africans. This is the same slave mentality that has plagued you black/coloured south-africans in your own country, and have made you second class citizens in a country you are the majority. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:00am On Mar 13, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope Their reporters are on the ground in Nigeria - collecting info and speaking to sources, thats how journalism works I was suspicious when they said that Bama was taken with little resistance Now it is clear what happened, South African and Eastern European Mercenaries moved in the night before and secured it, then the Army moved in the next day for the propaganda victory Black Napoleon my arse!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:03am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Henry120: Lol, Nigerians, Nigerians, Nigerians. So simple, so naive. You believe politicians? You believe politicians during elections? Presidents dont lie? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha You have gone from denying the existance of South African mercenaries, to now having to deny that we (along with Chad, Niger and Cameroon) are liberating your country. All sources confirm |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:06am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Msauza:your cousin must have had a part time degree from a satellite campus. Because my late umcle with a HND in engineering had two offers waiting for him in southafrica 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:07am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Msauza:your cousin must have had a part time degree from a satellite campus. Because my late uncle with a HND in engineering had two offers waiting for him in southafrica 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:21am On Mar 13, 2015 |
DictatorZAR:Sober enough!!! Did you say top 20 universities in Africa? Before I refute your claims, go back to the main issue at hand. How many doctors are produced in southafrica? How many are in service? How many doctors are produced in Nigeria in comparison to southafrica? What are the numbers of Nigerian doctor expatriates compared to southafrica's? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:47am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Patchesagain:hey wizard, dongote is still Africa's richest human, Richest black man in the world. Your Anglo-dutch master in more than $6 billion dollars trailing. Still waiting for your first honest, unbiased statement on this thread. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:59am On Mar 13, 2015 |
Patchesagain:when your scripts turn into a movie, it would be a nice sell out 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:02am On Mar 13, 2015 |
agaugust: Look how emotional these sub-humans are getting Before foreigners arrived you tasted only defeat! South African mercanaries as well as soldiers from Chad, Niger and Cameroon are liberating them. Confirmed by hundreds of sources. It is you whom is stealing out glory |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:36am On Mar 13, 2015 |
lezz: What about the quality of education the doctors receive. Nigerian trained doctors are under qualified and unwanted in Europe. SA trained doctors are in demand all over the world and do not need to be hampered by red tapes when they would want to work overseas. |
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