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Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by kabiyesiii(m): 3:20pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
GentleToks: FATOYINBO has nothing to do with “Oyinbo”. FATOYINBO is a contraction of Ifa to yin (praise), bo (peel off) ni ete (lips). That is, Ifa is so great, that you will praise it, till your lips peel off. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 3:24pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
"We have also markets, at which I have been frequently with my mother. These are sometimes visited by stout mahogany-coloured men from the south west of us: we call them Oye-Eboe, which term signifies red men living at a distance." Olaudah Equiano, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, 1789. [Link] "John Taylor and Ajai Crowther, were called by the people of Onitsha black Europeans, oyibo ojii, or native foreigners." Augustine Okwu, Igbo Culture and the Christian Missions, 1857-1957, 2010. [Link] "Other words, phonetically closer to 'ebo' (e.g.ibo,oyibo), also had classificatory meanings. In 1832, R. A. K. Oldfield recorded that on the middle reaches of the Niger near 'Eboe' (Aboh), locals hid in the bushes and called out to them what he heard as 'Oh, Eboe! Oh, Eboe!' (meaning 'White man, white man!'); in the 1850s at Onitsha another such 'stranger', Revd J.C. Taylor, was called by the people oibo, to mean 'whiteman'." Paul E. Lovejoy, Identity in the Shadow of Slavery, 2009 [Link] !!! |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by whitecat1: 3:25pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Ibo don't have enough parlance historically, they have always stolen Yoruba words and they will continue to do so. Please let them, after all we are speaking and writing english, so there's nothing wrong in ibo language containing even 50% Yoruba words. Yoruba helped wrote ibo language on paper and taught them how to read, so it's perfectly understandable how they adopted several words from us. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Nobody: 3:25pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Adiwana: Did ibos even call themselves ibo or Igbo before the white man? Why would ibos call the white man onye ibo which translates to ibo man in their own language? "Oyinbo" was most likely introduced to the ibos through the missionaries who were already being called oyinbo inYorubaland. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 3:26pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
whitecat1: [img]http://4.bp..com/-hDA8r-ztbb8/TYJhkhTRf-I/AAAAAAAAARg/Lo-3uYpnE9c/s400/Nsibidi%2BSheet%2B2.png[/img] !!! 2 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 3:28pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
whitecat1: ![]() !!!! 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 3:30pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
whitecat1: "Nsibidi is an ancient system of graphic communication indigenous to the Ejagham peoples of southeastern Nigeria and southwestern Cameroon in the Cross River region. It is also used by neighboring Ibibio, Efik and Igbo peoples. Aesthetically compelling and encoded, nsibidi does not correspond to any one spoken language. It is an ideographic script whose symbols refer to abstract concepts, actions or things and whose use facilitates communication among peoples speaking different languages." http://africa.si.edu/exhibits/inscribing/nsibidi.html [size=18pt]!!!!![/size] 4 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by whitecat1: 3:31pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
I'm not talking about what you recently stole from Japanese ok! The whole world already knows that there's nothing original about ibos, always stealing. Even town, culture and words aren't spared! ezeagu: 2 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by SirShymexx: 3:32pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Ezeagu Lol. Which is more logical: - melanin deficient - or calling Europeans the name they once called you loool. Bear in mind that Igbos were the last to have any contacts whatsoever with Europeans...use that as a premise to whatever answer you might posit. No point fighting over a word - but the Igbo theory is just illogical to an history buff lol. 6 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 3:32pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
"We have also markets, at which I have been frequently with my mother. These are sometimes visited by stout mahogany-coloured men from the south west of us: we call them Oye-Eboe, which term signifies red men living at a distance." Olaudah Equiano, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, 1789. [Link] "John Taylor and Ajai Crowther, were called by the people of Onitsha black Europeans, oyibo ojii, or native foreigners." Augustine Okwu, Igbo Culture and the Christian Missions, 1857-1957, 2010. [Link] "Other words, phonetically closer to 'ebo' (e.g.ibo,oyibo), also had classificatory meanings. In 1832, R. A. K. Oldfield recorded that on the middle reaches of the Niger near 'Eboe' (Aboh), locals hid in the bushes and called out to them what he heard as 'Oh, Eboe! Oh, Eboe!' (meaning 'White man, white man!'); in the 1850s at Onitsha another such 'stranger', Revd J.C. Taylor, was called by the people oibo, to mean 'whiteman'." Paul E. Lovejoy, Identity in the Shadow of Slavery, 2009 [Link] [size=18pt]!!![/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 3:35pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
whitecat1: [size=14pt]Early Ceramics from Calabar, Nigeria: Towards a History of Nsibidi[/size] http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/afar.2007.40.1.18 [img]http://www.mitpressjournals.org/na101/home/literatum/publisher/mit/journals/content/afar/2007/afar.2007.40.issue-1/afar.2007.40.1.18/production/afar.2007.40.1.18.fp.png_v03[/img] [size=18pt]!!!!![/size] "The modern Japanese writing system is a combination of two character types: logographic kanji, which are [size=18pt]adopted Chinese characters[/size]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_writing_system [size=18pt]!!!!![/size] |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by BraniacX(m): 3:35pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Seunn11: There are areas in the congo where cannibalism was/is practised depending on who you talk to and they are all dark skinned Why? Because they are sub saharan negroid bantu in origin so do you see why your theory is stewpid and offensive? Except you want to tell me in this case that they ate the fair skinned ones and the cats among them. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 3:37pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
SirShymexx: "We have also markets, at which I have been frequently with my mother. These are sometimes visited by stout mahogany-coloured men from the south west of us: we call them Oye-Eboe, which term signifies red men living at a distance." Olaudah Equiano, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, [size=20pt]1789[/size]. [Link] "John Taylor and Ajai Crowther, were called by the people of Onitsha black Europeans, oyibo ojii, or native foreigners." Augustine Okwu, Igbo Culture and the Christian Missions, 1857-1957, 2010. [Link] "Other words, phonetically closer to 'ebo' (e.g.ibo,oyibo), also had classificatory meanings. In [size=14pt]1832[/size], R. A. K. Oldfield recorded that on the middle reaches of the Niger near 'Eboe' (Aboh), locals hid in the bushes and called out to them what he heard as 'Oh, Eboe! Oh, Eboe!' (meaning 'White man, white man!'); in the 1850s at Onitsha another such 'stranger', Revd J.C. Taylor, was called by the people oibo, to mean 'whiteman'." Paul E. Lovejoy, Identity in the Shadow of Slavery, 2009 [Link] [size=18pt]!!![/size] |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Lstar4real(m): 3:41pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
safarigirl:guess u not Yoruba so I don't expect u to know much about the history.. ..Do u know that benin is Governed n control by Yoruba and more than 50% of benin are yoruba ...weither Benin is first to saw white man.. Its still yoruba which i dont think so... White men came through Sea....they came to southwest First which is lagos n the boundary like Epe before spreading all over the country thats why u see western states standout among the remaining Region ..if you don't agree with me ask yourself the reason why the Benin called their King OBA ...Thanks |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by whitecat1: 3:44pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Yoruba had what they called 'Abidi' according to my granny, but that's not the issue. I'm not a japanese and chinese language expert, but going by your way of always claiming what belongs to others, I had to think that you got it from asia. You have given eveyone the impression that nothing about you is authentic. ezeagu: 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by safarigirl(f): 3:45pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Lstar4real:bros I know all about history. I studied it in secondary school, wote it in WAEC and had an A so no be me people go dey teach history I don yarn this gist tire. Scroll down for my conclusion on the origin of oyibo |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 3:45pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
"We have also markets, at which I have been frequently with my mother. These are sometimes visited by stout mahogany-coloured men from the south west of us: we call them Oye-Eboe, which term signifies red men living at a distance." Olaudah Equiano, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, [size=20pt]1789[/size]. [Link] "John Taylor and Ajai Crowther, were called by the people of Onitsha black Europeans, oyibo ojii, or native foreigners." Augustine Okwu, Igbo Culture and the Christian Missions, 1857-1957, 2010. [Link] "Other words, phonetically closer to 'ebo' (e.g.ibo,oyibo), also had classificatory meanings. In [size=14pt]1832[/size], R. A. K. Oldfield recorded that on the middle reaches of the Niger near 'Eboe' (Aboh), locals hid in the bushes and called out to them what he heard as 'Oh, Eboe! Oh, Eboe!' (meaning 'White man, white man!'); in the 1850s at Onitsha another such 'stranger', Revd J.C. Taylor, was called by the people oibo, to mean 'whiteman'." Paul E. Lovejoy, Identity in the Shadow of Slavery, 2009 [Link] ![]() |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by safarigirl(f): 3:50pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Aigbofa:hahahahahaha This is as dumb as asking "did Yoruba call themselves Yoruba before the coming of the white man?" I mean, read that question and rate your brain ![]() |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by BraniacX(m): 3:52pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
SirShymexx: The way you yorubas skew history time and again to suit your pathetic agendas is very sad. I feel sorry for you lot claiming every one has affiliation with you while in the same vein same people are denying any affiliation with you by any means possible. Have you asked any itsekiri historian about any probable connections between them and ijebus? No! But you ascribe that to them already from the comfort of your armchair. Now what happens to the already accepted history of a benin prince setting up the itsekiri kingdoms ![]() It never occurred to you that the history of some peoples is not as vague and theoretical as yours. 3 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Nobody: 3:55pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
safarigirl: Please tell the forum what Yorubas called themselves before the white man and would it make any sense to you if the Yoruba started calling the white folks the same name? 4 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by tintingz(m): 4:00pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
safarigirl:The word "Oyinbo" has nothing to do with Igbo people. The word Oyinbo simply means white people or very light skinned person and it was originated from the Yorubas. - Oyin = Honey - Bo = Bleach or peel "Oyibo" might related to the Igbos since it is "onye ibo"(ibo person not a white person) but "Oyinbo" is a Yoruba word used for a white person or light skinned person, the spellings are different. 2 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by safarigirl(f): 4:00pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Aigbofa:I'll get back to you when I go back in time just like you obviously have. I mean, you speak with such assurance leading me to believe you were born in the 18th century ![]() |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Nobody: 4:03pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
safarigirl: I was. Lol |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by safarigirl(f): 4:04pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
tintingz:spellings are different but it means the same thing Majority in the south (minus south-west) say OYIBO, it's only on Nairaland that I saw Oyinbo. I was in Lagos for 11 years and I grew up saying 'oyibo' and nobody corrected me- not even the Yoruba people that supposedly coined the term It's oyibo I know so na that one I go use. If you google it you'll see oyibo/oyinbo/oyingbo all with the same meaning 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by whitecat1: 4:08pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Post a link where the Ishekiri BraniacX: |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by tintingz(m): 4:10pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
SirShymexx:Lol... very illogical ![]() How does onye ibo(ibo man) means a white man. White men called ibos "onye ibos" now ibos themselves claim onye ibo is used for white men... very illogical. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Lstar4real(m): 4:14pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
safarigirl:is it only u DT studied history in secondary school or tuk history in waec ..that fact still remain DT such questions don't come up in exams.. ..u can go and check waec history past questions starting fron the year we started writing waec till date...if u will see such question....The Yoruba saw white men first....because some of yoruba understand english before the white man came. ..and they are the translators for the whitemen..Igbo borrow the words from Yorubas and tell on their Tongues...its ede ayalo - Oyinbo - Oyibo 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by mainman7(m): 4:26pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Aigbofa:ibos will tell u that after "Oyinbo man, na ibo man" while Yorubas will tell u that they are direct descendants of GOD, Sons and Daughters of GOD, not in anyway lesser than Oyinbos in thinking capacities and creativity. [b]GOD created the Yorubas as very special Spiritual beings; money is not our soul's motivation we love knowledge and wisdom that why there are so many Yoruba Profs in America and European Universities not just as lecturers but as Dean of Faculties, whatever we do, we do with the whole of our heart. igbos have started many churches in the past, have u ever wondered why so many years later they still remain mushroom churches? Yoruba Churches like Redeemed, MFM, Winners, TB Joshua Synagogue, Cele, Kerubu etc. has millions of branches and members not just in African but all over the World! If u want to die quickly, tell Cele people that they don't have power. The 1st African descent mayor in USA is a Yoruba, the current richest black woman in the world is Yoruba (with all their greed no igbo man or woman is the richest in Nigeria let alone the world, all they do is deceive pple by raising fake shoulders) the 1st TV Station in Africa was built by a Yoruba, Awolowo 1st to start free education while Zik was yet busy stealing his people's money and properties, 1st Nigerian to be Nominated for Grammy (KSA), 1st abd 2nd African to win multiple Grammy (Sade Adu and Seal respectvly), the 1st indigenous vehicle production and exportation by ProForce in Abeokuta, even the greatest forum in Nigeria is owned by the greater Seun Oshewa etc. etc... So, Yoruba's haters can exterminate themselves and die soonest because they ain't seen anything yet! Even the devil respects the uncommon greatness and ability of Yorubas. igbos started their own cult but do u even know them?! The Yorubas started Africa's greatest cult; Ogboni, yet because of love of money there are more igbos in it now than any other tribe. Years ago, Yorubas students started Pyrate Confraternity, Eye Confraternity, NBM Black Aze, etc... still the major cults till date. Yorubas are like lions, a lion knows he's a lion but a goat will always envy the natural nature of a lion...; this is why an average Yoruba man feels comfortable with life but an average ibo man will use his children, wife, brother etc.. for money rituals just to suppress their inferiority complex. ibo man's precarious inferiority complex has reached a feverish level. This same inferiority is what they r struggling and trying so hard to cover up by popping their flat heads into every Yoruba thread. When next you see a Yoruba, duff your heart and bow![/b] 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by whitecat1: 4:29pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Yoruba has history so rich that nothing can be added to it. Post a link where the Itsekiris who speak ijebu and bear Yoruba names say they are not Yoruba. As for Edo, there are many tribes there including Yoruba, if names, orisa and oba are to go by. Names like Modupe, Toyin, Taiye/Kehinde are Yoruba names with no meaning or origin in general Edo population except those who probably came with the oba, remember we don't speak the same language. Names are pointers to one's origin! BraniacX: 4 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by tintingz(m): 4:35pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
safarigirl:They are not the same it is a mixed up thing. Onye ibo(Oyibo) means ibo people which the white men used to callthe ibo people. Oyin bo(Oyinbo) means peeled or bleached honey which the Yoruba people used to call the white men, Albinos, light skinned person. Now tell me which make more sense and logical concerning "Oyinbo" a white person. Majority in the south (minus south-west) say OYIBO, it's only on Nairaland that I saw Oyinbo. I was in Lagos for 11 years and I grew up saying 'oyibo' and nobody corrected me- not even the Yoruba people that supposedly coined the term Oyibo is mixed up with Oyinbo, Oyibo is onye ibo. Who has the time to correct you or listen to the missing "N" since the pronunciation are almost the same and they know you are referring to a white man. Ibos borrowed the word Oyinbo meaning a white man from yorubas. It's oyibo I know so na that one I go use. If you google it you'll see oyibo/oyinbo/oyingbo all with the same meaningNow I have correct you it is Oyinbo. ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by safarigirl(f): 4:36pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Lstar4real:I'm sure you're smarter than you sound. If something does not come up in WAEC does that mean it wasn't taught in school? If you did any part of history, you'd know all of this yarns was treated in SS1 and 2 curriculums so yes, na ONLY me do history for school apparently |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by GentleToks(m): 4:38pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
kabiyesiii: I know Oyinbo has nothing to do with the meaning of FATOYINBO(In terms of meaning only) but the words and pronunciation of Oyinbo are purely yoruba in all ramification. 1 Like |
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