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Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by macof(m): 10:28pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
Aigbofa:Lmao ![]() Will a cat call a dog "cat"? 3 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bokohalal(m): 10:31pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
The peoples of the Niger delta who developed the Nigerian Pidgin (not creole) invented the word OYIBO, OYINBO, OIBO,EBO AND EBOH. The first people to come in touch with Europeans were the Itsekiris, Edos, Izons and the Urhobos (in no particular order.) Their history and language is replete with contact with Europe. Edos, for example, have been adorning themselves in beads for centuries. Many fruits and vegetables are variation of the original European word. Trade and diplomatic relations were established. Christianity first tried to get a foothold in modern Nigeria through Benin and later, Warri. Since a people's history could also be gleaned through songs, an Edo song about beads and it's relationship to OIBO, is enough to answer the origin of the word OYIBO, and in its various forms, today. Ivie ne OYIBO du mwun rre Ivie ne OYIBO du mwun rre...... is popular and timeless in Edo music. In religion, music, history and language, OYIBO ,in its many forms, conclusively, is a Niger delta word with the Binis using their vast influence to spread it. 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bokohalal(m): 10:33pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
The first recorded contact of Europeans and West Africans, was with Benin! What did the Binis call the Europeans? OYIBO! |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ChristyG(f): 10:42pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
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Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by makazona(m): 10:45pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
kaorama: Beautiful.u jst read my mind!! |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bigfrancis21: 10:49pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
macof: Yes, some Igbo people did refer to themselves Igbo, and that is how the identity of Igbo slaves taken to the Americas long before Nigeria's colonization was recorded. Town names in Igboland bearing 'Igbo' i.e. Igborere, Igbo-Ukwu, Umuigbo etc all attest to this fact. Till today, many Igbo families bear surnames with 'Igbo' attached to them i.e. Igbokwe, Igboamaeze, etc. 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by macof(m): 10:56pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
safarigirl: I have seen claims by Urhobo saying "Oyibo" is from them and that's the only word used to refer to light skinned or Europeans Unlike Igbos that have Beeke and Onye Ocha still very much used as always According to ur wiki link, Oyibo in ijaw means Man nt light skin |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by GentleToks(m): 10:57pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
NigerMan1: You are . |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by SirShymexx: 10:59pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
bokohalal: Lol. Cool story, bruh. You lot are slowly but surely turning to Igbos with hyperbole lol. I heard Republic du Benin also took permission from ya king (according to him lol) before changing the name from Dahomey to Benin - and Bini folks also own Olokun (despite being landlocked); started terracotta; and the Bini empire extended all the way to Ghana lol. Ogisiso, the great gods of the sky - we hail thee looool. 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by macof(m): 11:02pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: These Towns u mentioned have little to do with the western Igbos that use Oyibo "onye ibo" like u say They didn't refer themselves as Igbo Have u ever considered that since mostly Igbos under Bini use Oyibo then it must have been a result of Bini influence |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by macof(m): 11:04pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Oh the lies u get from edoworld and many edo websites |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ladionline: 11:04pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
^You haven't answer macof. Were the Igbos of the time of Afro-European contact calling white men 'onyigbo' as though the Europeans were also Igbo? |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by SirShymexx: 11:09pm On Mar 14, 2015 |
macof: Loool. Those folks are a lost cause. You shouldn't even be telling that much lies when ya king is called "Oba" - a pure Yoruba name with no meaning in Bini language looool. Anyway, I love Bini folks but their lies can be overbearing sometimes. The same Bini folks who employed Itsekiri middlemen to trade with Europeans - the landlocked empire - allegedly met Europeans before everyone loool. Utter tosh. In that region, the Itsekiris and Ijos had contact with them before anyone else. And that was around 15th/16th century or so. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Adeyinka12(m): 12:04am On Mar 15, 2015 |
Eeeeeeh shi oo, no be igbo's later they will claim they own the word's oga oya agbada gele ejo egbon ogede egusi garii e.t.c the worst part of it is when they borrow yoruba language with bad pronounciation like; yoruba igbo tolotolo torotoro akuko okuko imu imi e.t.c |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Nobody: 12:14am On Mar 15, 2015 |
^ okuko and imi were borrowed from Yoruba. Really? REALLY? |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Nobody: 12:17am On Mar 15, 2015 |
bokohalal: IBO-White man in Esan/Edo. The Yoruba origin of the word Oyinbo is very plausible, but God dam.n you people need to get off that false sense of superiority.. it's quite nauseating. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bigfrancis21: 4:23am On Mar 15, 2015 |
macof: You are ignorant of Igbo issues. Anambra (maybe Onitsha which I doubt), Enugu and Ebonyi states (Northern Igboland) were not under Bini kingdom. The areas under Bini Kingdom are the areas closer to Bini i.e. Ika/Agbor. It still baffles me when you have no academic proof whatsoever to prove the origin of 'oyinbo' yet there's much evidence to prove the usage of 'oyibo' in Igboland dating back to the 18th century or more. ezeagu: |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bigfrancis21: 4:29am On Mar 15, 2015 |
Adeyinka12: Lmao. Egusi and Garri are not Yoruba words. Egusi in Igbo is Egwusi. Rather, I think it is the other way round. I think you are not educated well-enough to know that Igbo people are an ancient people and the Nri civilization started at about 10AD and Ife 200 years later at 12AD. Igbo civilization is older than Yoruba civilization. 4 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bokohalal(m): 4:40am On Mar 15, 2015 |
aim5:I am lost. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ladionline: 4:53am On Mar 15, 2015 |
Justfollowit:If you can call this a lie, where 'eebo' is first entertained, then you can continue playing to the gallery as UK-based Yoruba lady. Stop pretending to be who you are not cause you sound more intelligent than someone in need of cover-up. But if its a game to you, then continue, you have been bursted already. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bokohalal(m): 4:54am On Mar 15, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Benin city is not in Chad or Niger republic. It is closer to the sea than most Yoruba communities. Gwatto (Ughoton) , a river port in Benin kingdom, leads directly to the sea. It was Benin Empire's major trading port with Europeans. The Portuguese even built a factory there. Ologbo and Siluko , on the west side of Benin Kingdom,are also river ports that could lead you directly to the Atlantic Ocean. The Europeans did not need middlemen to get to Benin! The Itsekiris have closer historical and cultural ties with the Binis than with the Ijebus. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Nobody: 4:56am On Mar 15, 2015 |
bokohalal:First, I stated how Ibo means white person in Esan/Edo, which supports your claim. Then, I went on a tangent, saying that the Yoruba origin of the word Oyinbo also seems plausible, but that they stop with their false sense of superiority. Now you're not lost. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ladionline: 5:05am On Mar 15, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:Something is wrong with your chronology at the bolded. It is evidence-in-chief that you are careless with your assumptions and dates, it means you date desire outcome without timeline. Were you dating the creation of Ife/Nri civilization or artifact? |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bokohalal(m): 6:28am On Mar 15, 2015 |
aim5:Better. But it is EBO not IBO, in Esan. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Nobody: 6:37am On Mar 15, 2015 |
bokohalal: It's both. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bokohalal(m): 6:38am On Mar 15, 2015 |
aim5:Okay. |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by Adeyinka12(m): 7:54am On Mar 15, 2015 |
bigfrancis21:Garii and egusi is yoruba words,there is garii ifon garii ijebu ,garii pupa used to prepare eba and that of egusi,yoruba have the seed egusi,which is soup called egusi,igbos come to yoruba land and borrow words.and with your history what concern ife with this.note i'm not just a certificate holder i'm well educated 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by bigfrancis21: 8:25am On Mar 15, 2015 |
ladionline: The archaeology of Igbo-Ukwu revealed bronze artifacts dated to the 9th century A.D. which were initially discovered by Isiah Anozie in 1939 while digging a well in his compound in Igbo-Ukwu, an Igbo town in Anambra State, Nigeria. As a result of these finds, three archaeological sites were excavated in 1959 and 1964 by Thurstan Shaw which revealed more than 700 high quality artifacts of copper, bronze and iron, as well as about 165000 glass, carnelian and stone beads, pottery, textiles and ivory. They are the oldest bronze artifacts known in West African and were manufactured centuries before the emergence of other known bronze producing centers such as those of Ife and Benin. The bronzes include numerous ritual vessels, pendants, crowns, breastplates, staff ornaments, swords, and fly-whisk handles.[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology_of_Igbo-Ukwu What else do you need to know? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by ezeagu(m): 8:29am On Mar 15, 2015 |
macof: Why don't you just stick to what you knooooow!? [size=20pt]Igbuzo, Akwukwu Igbo[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by NigerMan1: 8:29am On Mar 15, 2015 |
SirShymexx: @ SirShymexx You did not reply my earlier reply to you. Why? It seems you are in love with the word "landlocked'. Bro is that the new word you Yorubas invented to denigrate Benin/Edo to promote your Yoruba 'superior folktale'? So a land that was landlocked was recorded and called an EMPIRE? Bro do you know the real meaning of Empire? And do you know the qualities and features that made old European historians, events recorders, missionaries, sailors etc to use the term 'Empire' to qualified and described powerful kingdoms in the olden days? Bro you need to go back and discover these salient facts first. In addition, Benin Kingdom was the only one even described as "GREAT" among most black African Empires of old. Again you also need to do more research why? Let me quickly say few things: 1) Benin Empire Was NOT Landlocked It was the oldest and longest reigning Empire. It extended from present day Benin throughout the Niger River, conquering most communities in present day Niger Delta, Onitsha and environs, Niger state, Bayelsa, down to Lagos. Monarchy were either established or promoted in all those thousands of communities. For example, some in Urhobho land, Itsekiri, Onitsha. The monarchy in Lagos was 100% Benin established. 2) You Are Guilty Of Same Error You Are Accusing The Igbos By saying the Benin Empire was landlocked and stylishly promoting Yoruba folklore as fact (Ijebus established Itsekiri) you're not only lying but denigrating the the high value the Benin Empire brought to black race. You're re-echoing the age-long Yoruba lies, sentiments and barefaced denials to rubbish the Benin influence to present day Yoruba land. 3) Benin First Established Contact With Europeans Why trying to change this fact? Maybe you don't know these were recorded by the Portuguese explorers, sailors and academics when they first forayed into Africa long, long before the French and British. In fact there are records that they established agreement with Oba of Benin for trades, scholarship etc. And not only Benins enjoyed the scholarship but also slaves and people of lands under Benin Empire such as Ijaws, Itsekiris, Urhobhos, Igbo and many in the old Lagos. 4) Stop Your Yoruba Superiority Folktales Can you see how easy for you to denigrate the massive achievements of one of the greatest Black Empires that ever existed? Can you smell your own odour of insults and sneer about us the Benin/Edos in your remarks? And at the same time you easily put forward your Yoruba folktale as the truths? Can you decipher your own bias here? So according to you the Benin Empire was a ruse, while Yoruba 'history' handed to you by your parents and elders is sacrosanct? So the history of Benin Obas and Ogisos were fake, but your Yoruba folktales and mythology of Oduduwa, Ijebu/Itsekiri land are all truths? 5) Ijebu Was Not An Empire Am aghast you brought Ijebu into the mix. Sorry Ijebu was not a force to reckon with in the olden days; it was not an independent empire. We had only the Oyo and Great Benin Empires. 4 Likes |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by NigerMan1: 8:35am On Mar 15, 2015 |
GentleToks: Bros what are trying to say? |
Re: Etymology Of The Word Oyinbo by macof(m): 8:38am On Mar 15, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: The man u like quoting everyday, Olaudah said,his people were subjects to the Oba of Bini I believe u said his town is in Anambra So u only pick what you like from his book? How mature |
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