iterator24:
Tanzanians destroyed the M23

@Msauza got it spot on, the Rooivalk destroyed the M23

Henry120:


We are terrorising the terrorists.


SADF forces did similar in Angola.

The SADF didn't do that, it was police units like Koevoet who did such.

Msauza:



Nah!! Rooivalk gunship did.

no, Congolese army did..glory thief

agaugust:


Nigerian navy has 3 anti-submarine warfare helicopters against your 3 soweto submarines.

Nigerian navy has 40 Otomat anti-ship missile with 180 km range against your 4 soweto frigates tjat has 70 km range excocet missiles.

Nigerian navy has BVR anti-aircraft missiles with 75 km range against your soweto navy that has only WVR missiles with 15 km range.

It's clear who will die first....South African navy
.

So?

Stands no chance.

Did you know: The Germans masters of submarine warfare using dipping sonar still failed to detect a SA sub?

iterator24:
no, Congolese army did..glory thief

Rooivalk defeated M23 rebels as was supported by media at large. Two Rooivalks scattered the rebels in disarray with rockets that pounced like a fog and exploded into hellfire. That's when a SA snyper hit his target (M23 commander) from kilometres away to make it to the books of longest shot ever recorded in history.

Msauza:


It doesn't matter, Rwandan lead you to the point that you got frustrated.

Nigerian president Goodluck Jonathan's order to
withdraw Nigerian troops from Mali was
attributed in some quarters to the replacement of
a Nigerian by a Rwandan as the force
commander of the peacekeeping force in Mali
now that it has passed under UN control.


http://www.refworld.org/docid/5204fb024.html

lovely quote, Nigeria refused control from UN and intervened under AFRISMA - ECOWAS.. Meanwhile Saffers got laid doggy style by Tanzanians

Msauza:



Rooivalk defeated M23 rebels as was supported by media at large. Two Rooivalks scattered the rebels in disarray with rockets that pounced like a fog and exploded into hellfire. That's when a SA snyper hit his target from kilometres away to make it to the books of longest shot ever recorded in history.

so Congolese army were inside McDonalds eating burgers right?

iterator24:
no, Congolese army did..glory thief

The Congolese army led by the South African trained late Colonel Mamadou Ndala.

Without the Rooivalk it took them weeks to dislodge M23 from the Kibati heights, but with the Rooivalk later on they ran into Uganda without looking.

As the big ugly bug could hover, stop and look them in the face while spitting fire. Unlike strafing runs by hinds.

iterator24:
lovely quote, Nigeria refused control from UN and intervened under AFRISMA - ECOWAS.. Meanwhile Saffers got laid doggy style by Tanzanians

SA are not after pride because we know well that our generals are paid well and wouldn't wrestle for change (small money). We serve Africa from the interests of our hearts and we are always the game changers. Everywhere our troops are they left a mark to be remembered with. Even if we serve under Lesotho commander we do not judge, we do what the world expect of us and that is to save the lives of the innocent. North East Nigerian will tell you that when we mean business we do not hesitate.

Msauza:


SA are not after pride because we know well that our generals are well paid and wouldn't wrestle for change. We serve Africa from the interests of our hearts and we are always the game changers. Everywhere our troops are they left a mark to be remembered with. Even if we serve under Lesotho commander we do not judge, we do what the world expect of us and that is to save the lives of the innocent. North East Nigerian will tell you that when we mean business we do not hesitate.

now you're not after pride? hahahaha...clowns

MikeCZAR:
The Congolese army led by the South African trained late Colonel Mamadou Ndala.

Without the Rooivalk it took them weeks to dislodge M23 from the Kibati heights, but with the Rooivalk later on they ran into Uganda without looking.

As the big ugly bug could hover, stop and look them in the face while spitting fire. Unlike strafing runs by hinds.

you've been on the thread long enough to know opinions without citations are baseless.. my sources tell me otherwise by the way

MikeCZAR:
Problem with C-130J is that they can't carry the Oryx and Rooivalk without their gearboxes being removed, cause of its smaller vehicular size.

The battle of Bangui has shown SAAF needs to deploy them without their gearboxes removed, as it will take time to get them in the air for Ops if their removed.

SAAF needs a dedicated tanker aircraft in the class of A330 MRTT similar to the retired 707 with EW and transport secondary roles. This will enable them to deploy fighter jets, troops and equipment at the same time.

Yes i agree 100%, i think it will be best if SAAF gets a mixture of KC-390/C-130js and A400Ms, maybe something like 6 KC-390 and 3-4 A400Ms and maby 1-2 A330s that way we have added(although limited) strategic airlift capability, i even read somewhere that the US is marketing their C-17 but that obviously is out of the question 1. we dont need an aircraft with heavy intercontinental-range strategic airlift capability and 2. Its simply to expensive.

iterator24:
so Congolese army were inside McDonalds eating burgers right?

. No, M23 had an advantage in the fact that they were defending a hill.

So their advance was slow, as M23 dug trenches making bombard by artillery less effective until the Red Kestrel coming from above to pick them in groups to heaven.

MikeCZAR:
. No, M23 had an advantage in the fact that they were defending a hill.

So their advance was slow, as M23 dug trenches making bombard by artillery less effective until the Red Kestrel coming from above to pick them in groups to heaven.

another baseless opinion

m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-24744548

there's more of that on BBC, your so called army was not even recognized

jln115:

Yes i agree 100%, i think it will be best if SAAF gets a mixture of KC-390/C-130js and A400Ms, maybe something like 6 KC-390 and 3-4 A400Ms and maby 1-2 A330s that way we have added(although limited) strategic airlift capability, i even read somewhere that the US is marketing their C-17 but that obviously is out of the question 1. we dont need an aircraft with heavy intercontinental-range strategic airlift capability and 2. Its simply to expensive.

The KC-390 is rubbis..h buying it would be a political goal.

If SAAF had a bigger budget I'd support getting the C-17 but it has jet engines.

iterator24:
you've been on the thread long enough to know opinions without citations are baseless.. my sources tell me otherwise by the way

All sources recommended the involvement of Rooivalk as the contributor to the UN decisive victory. Had it not been through it many lives would have been lost. The Rooivalk dislodged rebels from the mountain and scattered them in disarray and as others were running for their lives they raised their weapons above as a sign of giving up.

iterator24:
now you're not after pride? hahahaha...clowns

We serve the Nation of Africa from the interests of our hearts.

iterator24:
another baseless opinion

m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-24744548

there's more of that on BBC, your so called army was not even recognized

Yet when BBC puts out stories about your BH insurgency, you claim they're just a propaganda horn?

But now you wanna use a BBC source?

iterator24:
you've been on the thread long enough to know opinions without citations are baseless.. my sources tell me otherwise by the way

I posted sources, now what about you do something useful and read it! maybe if you start reading your own sources aswell you wouldnt embarrass yourself quite as much.

Msauza:



All sources recommended the involvement of Rooivalk as the contributor to the UN decisive victory. Had it not been through it many lives would have been lost. The Rooivalk dislodged rebels from the mountain and scattered them in disarray and as others were running for their lives they raised their weapons above as a sign of giving up.

you can't even find any independent credible source to backup your claims, your opinion is baseless boy

MikeCZAR:


Yet when BBC puts out stories about your BH insurgency, you claim they're just a propaganda horn?

But now you wanna use a BBC source?

oh my, you're hurt, if you don't like bbc then

Congo army takes M23 rebel stronghold

http://news.yahoo.com/congo-army-takes-m23-rebel-stronghold-143440763.html


Again, SA no where to be found

MikeCZAR:
The KC-390 is rubbis..h buying it would be a political goal.

If SAAF had a bigger budget I'd support getting the C-17 but it has jet engines.

Why do you say its rubbish? Compared to the C-130J, the KC-390 is 15% faster, carry an 18% heavier payload, and cost 59% as much to purchase. And although having a 15% shorter range than the C-130J, the KC-390 has an aerial refueling capability as a standard feature (only a few specialized sub-variants of the C-130 have an aerial refueling capability),Ruggedized landing gear allows the KC-390 to take-off from or land on any hard and flat surface, including dirt airstrips typical of front line bases and has basically the same take off and landing distance as the c-130j.

As for the C-17, whats wrong with it having jet engines? If SAAF ever buys it, its solely going to be used for strategic airlift roles.

iterator24:
oh my, you're hurt, if you don't like bbc then

Congo army takes M23 rebel stronghold

http://news.yahoo.com/congo-army-takes-m23-rebel-stronghold-143440763.html


Again, SA no where to be found

Your source:

"The Congolese army retook one of the last remaining strongholds of the M23 rebels."

So who retook the rest?

iterator24:
you can't even find any independent credible source to backup your claims, your opinion is baseless boy

Come on man we bombarded this very thread with sources that appraised the work done by Rooivalk in Eastern DRC, that even the minister of defence proposed the idea that Rooivalk manufacturing should resume again. This was following many countries enquiring about Rooivalk productions. So, please do not take us back because we are not ret.arded.

jln115:


Your source:

"The Congolese army retook one of the last remaining strongholds of the M23 rebels."

So who retook the rest?

Congolese army... enough sources available ... bbc or yahoo?

Msauza:



Come on man we bombarded this very thread with sources that appraised the work done by Rooivalk in Eastern DRC, that even the minister of defence proposed the idea that Rooivalk manufacturing should resume again. This was following many countries enquiring about Rooivalk productions. So, please do not take us back because we are not ret.arded.

its clear and the world knows it

DR Congo army defeats M23 rebels
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/11/dr-congo-army-defeats-m23-rebels-201311653333587664.html

Saffers did nothing and will never be recognized
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M23_rebellion


Done wasting my time with your baseless opinions [without citations]

iterator24:
its clear and the world knows it

DR Congo army defeats M23 rebels
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/11/dr-congo-army-defeats-m23-rebels-201311653333587664.html

Saffers did nothing and will never be recognized
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M23_rebellion


Done wasting my time with your baseless opinions [without citations]

All troops were fighting on behalf of DRC, so did you expect them to say Tanzania or SA defeated M23?

However, If it were not for Rooivalk involvement, M23 rebels would have been resistant and could have defeated Congolese army as they have done many a times.

iterator24:
its clear and the world knows it

DR Congo army defeats M23 rebels
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/11/dr-congo-army-defeats-m23-rebels-201311653333587664.html

Saffers did nothing and will never be recognized
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M23_rebellion


Done wasting my time with your baseless opinions [without citations]

Here you go r.etard

http://www.africandefence.net/the-last-days-of-m23/
http://www.africandefence.net/analysis-how-m23-was-rolled-back/
http://www.africandefence.net/the-fib-goes-to-war/
http://thinkafricapress.com/drc/pincer-movements-choppers-and-teamwork-how-m23-was-pushed-back
http://www.newsrecord.co/the-u-n-s-new-force-redefines-intervention/

jln115:

Here you go r.etard

http://www.africandefence.net/the-last-days-of-m23/
http://www.africandefence.net/analysis-how-m23-was-rolled-back/
http://www.africandefence.net/the-fib-goes-to-war/
http://thinkafricapress.com/drc/pincer-movements-choppers-and-teamwork-how-m23-was-pushed-back
http://www.newsrecord.co/the-u-n-s-new-force-redefines-intervention/

I did not even have all time in the world to prove this reta.rd wrong. He is a late comer.


http://www.africandefence.net/after-23-years-rooivalks-fire-first-shots-in-drc/

Msauza:



We serve the Nation of Africa from the interests of our hearts.

Yeah right....

Salaries of Presidents.



http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2015/03/13/president-jacob-zuma-is-the-fourth-highest-paid-president-in-the-world.

iterator24:
lovely quote, Nigeria refused control from UN and intervened under AFRISMA - ECOWAS.. Meanwhile Saffers got laid doggy style by Tanzanians

No

What has happened is yet again Nigerians got overly emotional about minor issues