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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by superstar1(m): 1:08pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:


Yes, bro. There are too many power blocs in the PDP, that actually caused the frictions the party has witnessed in the past.

It is to a great advantage that these power blocs are working desperately for a common cause which is to return GEJ for a second term.

You can barely count 10 powerful APC politicians in any southwestern state but in the PDP you can conveniently count 10 in every local government. That will greatly count in a tight election like this.

Who are the powerful PDP politicians?

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Ayus34(m): 1:28pm On Mar 18, 2015
1wolex85:


I am still amazed how anyone thinks Osoba will work for GEJ/PDP! This makes no sense to anybody that knows Ogun politics. Osoba decamping is purely local politics, the worst he can do is to be indifferent to the presidential polls but he wont work for PDP.

In Lagos, if you call koro and george, i agree, but fasheun and adams? guy, haba! these ones hae no political influence whatsoever. the upn fasheun is trying to revive cant even win councillorship with fasheun's influence or rather lack of it in his own ward. Even Bode George has won his polling booth on lagos island only a few times (i think its even once,2011 presidential elections). When you talk about grassroot mobilisation, only koro has got it going on in pdp, maybe aero in alimosho also.
I dont know much about the rest of the states but please just drop the afenifere nonsense, name one of them that has won any election since 1999, just one!, anyway na next week, we can come back to this thread then.
I just saw something you wrote about ogun state, that Amosun won with Osoba structure! I laugh in spanish. Go back to the 2007 elections, DD direct riding on Aremo's structure came a distant 3rd, SIA brought a totally unknown party in the SW (ANPP) and came second (some still believe he won that election, there were so may irregularities that the appeal court even ordered a retrial by the election tribunal before daniel finally won at the appeal court at the second time of asking). Guy, you dey really underrate Amosun o!
to support ur comment,d guy forgot that amosun recommended gbega Daniel to OBJ that later displace OSOBA

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by DVanguard: 1:39pm On Mar 18, 2015
1wolex85:


I am still amazed how anyone thinks Osoba will work for GEJ/PDP! This makes no sense to anybody that knows Ogun politics. Osoba decamping is purely local politics, the worst he can do is to be indifferent to the presidential polls but he wont work for PDP.

In Lagos, if you call koro and george, i agree, but fasheun and adams? guy, haba! these ones hae no political influence whatsoever. the upn fasheun is trying to revive cant even win councillorship with fasheun's influence or rather lack of it in his own ward. Even Bode George has won his polling booth on lagos island only a few times (i think its even once,2011 presidential elections). When you talk about grassroot mobilisation, only koro has got it going on in pdp, maybe aero in alimosho also.
I dont know much about the rest of the states but please just drop the afenifere nonsense, name one of them that has won any election since 1999, just one!, anyway na next week, we can come back to this thread then.
I just saw something you wrote about ogun state, that Amosun won with Osoba structure! I laugh in spanish. Go back to the 2007 elections, DD direct riding on Aremo's structure came a distant 3rd, SIA brought a totally unknown party in the SW (ANPP) and came second (some still believe he won that election, there were so may irregularities that the appeal court even ordered a retrial by the election tribunal before daniel finally won at the appeal court at the second time of asking). Guy, you dey really underrate Amosun o!

He does not have a good understanding and history of power play in SW. Amosun is a force to reckon with on his own.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Nobody: 1:45pm On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:


Fantasy at its best. The people of SW are gullible they wont vote their own but will vote a man that spent 5 yrs,he is yet to show significant development in their zone. But GEJ will win SS because of being son of the soil regardless of performance.
i dey laugh ooooo.
28th is around the corner, we would see. Your Oyo analysis is total crap, i would not argue with you because you are not from the region and you dont understand the dynamics of Oyo politics. (Imagine you saying Ajimobi is not a grass root mobilzer).

You guys are according and giving this guy way too much attention. He understands naught about the SW. You can see it from his utterances. Imagine OPC most people of the SW see as scum of the earth is what the olodo is banking on to return large swats of votes in SW to his principal. I laugh.

Imagine Redeem church members, other pentecostal and Catholic members or other Muslims voting for GEJ because OPC (touts) said so. What's more hillarious?


He should just check the fp and see what another faction of OPC says just today. Even if Gani Adams carries a gun and puts to all his members head to vote for Jonathan. He cannot raise 50,000 votes. How many are the OPC even sef?

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 2:48pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:


It seems you know what went down in the APC primaries in Osun.

What can you say about the senatorial contest between Fadahunsi of PDP (Ilesha) and Jide Omoworare of APC (ile Ife) considering the fact that those are two of largest voting blocs in Osun state. Who do you think will carry the day?

I have my opinion already, I just want to see if I can get a different view.
Do you know Omoworare lost the primary until aregbe forced him in
Same for Sen olusola from my senatorial district
To me itz about aregbe nd omisore
Cuz omi will deliver Ife for PDP and aregbe is expected to do so in Ilesha
Itz left to who can penetrate each other stronghold the more

But if d pattern of voting for gov cum into play PDP will win
Cuz PDP got more votes in Ilesha Dan APC got in ife

That adeyeye will never win even ora where he comes from 2 out of 3 wards there belong to PDP since as far back as I can remember
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by mrmetoo1: 3:10pm On Mar 18, 2015
johnny1980:


You guys are according and giving this guy way too much attention. He understands naught about the SW. You can see it from his utterances. Imagine OPC most people of the SW see as scum of the earth is what the olodo is banking on to return large swats of votes in SW to his principal. I laugh.

Imagine Redeem church members, other pentecostal and Catholic members or other Muslims voting for GEJ because OPC (touts) said so. What's more hillarious?


He should just check the fp and see what another faction of OPC says just today. Even if Gani Adams carries a gun and puts to all his members head to vote for Jonathan. He cannot raise 50,000 votes. How many are the OPC even sef?

The guy has written stuff that has been shocking. The guy actually listed OPC as having influence... OPC!! OPC is actually a negative. Yoruba people are not crazy about OPC, Yorubas at best see them as a necessary evil. Security men OPC is what my guy is counting on in Lagos.. I laugh

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 3:17pm On Mar 18, 2015
HzRF:

Do you know Omoworare lost the primary until aregbe forced him in
Same for Sen olusola from my senatorial district
To me itz about aregbe nd omisore
Cuz omi will deliver Ife for PDP and aregbe is expected to do so in Ilesha
Itz left to who can penetrate each other stronghold the more

But if d pattern of voting for gov cum into play PDP will win
Cuz PDP got more votes in Ilesha Dan APC got in ife

That adeyeye will never win even ora where he comes from 2 out of 3 wards there belong to PDP since as far back as I can remember

I'm aware of the charade of the senatorial primary that was belatedly organised by Aregbe. Words on the street indicates Fadahunsi will clinch it based on the Ife/Ijesha factor you mentioned above.

I was told omoworare is a prince of the Ife kingdom (Aderemi) but Omisore still holds the ace. I am aware Fadahunsi is well loved by all in Ilesha where he is from, even my APC friends from iluusha love him. That again should count for something in the presidential election.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 3:19pm On Mar 18, 2015
superstar1:


Who are the powerful PDP politicians?


Chineme, you know them. You can count 50 of them in Ibadan alone.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by ozo13(m): 3:27pm On Mar 18, 2015
barcanista:
This is very typical of any pro-APC crap... But for the sake of politics let me comment on some issues.

1.
Obasanjo has never been a determining factor in SW Politics. He lost SW to Falae in 1999, he only won in 2003 because the AD endorsed him. His faction couldn't secure seat for Iyabo in 2011. Ladoja won Oyo in 2003 because of Pa Adedibu and his(Ladoja's) goodwill. Fayose won Ekiti in 2003 because of he was loved by the grassroot. Obasanjo only influenced the victory of Olagunsoye Oyinlola(Osun) in 2003 thanks to the support of Iyola Omisore, though his candidate was kicked out 4 years after. In Ogun Daniel is known to be a mobilizer with lots of grassroot followers(mostly touts), his combine force with Amosun and Obj helped kicked Osoba. However, Daniel remained a key with loyalists in prominent positions even out of office. How many Reps from Ogun State are loyal to Obasanjo(0)? How many are loyal to Daniel(2)? Amosun (2), But Osoba (5). How many Senators are loyal to Obj(0), all Ogun Senators are core loyalists of Osoba. Loyalists not just Associates. How many commissioners can resign because of Obasanjo?(0). Amosun power house is Ogun Central but he isn't finding it easy at all as at today.

Às for Tinubu, he has seen a slip in his political fortune. He lost in Ondo in 2012, lost in Ekiti in 2014 but won Osun. In Ogun State, he isn't even a factor. ACN won in 2011 by using Osoba's Structure with Amosun candidacy. The leftover Afenifere that were with Tinubu in 2003 are no longer with him.

2. When you say Oyo, you deliberately played down the relevance of the Speakership. You even went as far as saying Ladoja/Accord won't campaign for GEJ, in fact you gave Ogbomoso to APC. This is very fuNny.
1. Accord Officially endorsed GEJ www.firstafricanews.ng/index.php?dbs=openlist&s=14605
2. Oyo State Chapter of Accord through Oyebisi Ílaka, the Party's CentrÀl Senatoral Candidate and core loyalist of Ladoja shed light on the endorsement
www.theinfostride.com/forum/nigerian-news/why-accord-party-(ap)-endorsed-jonathan/?wap2

3. Ladoja himself endorsed GEJ
https://www.mynewswatchtimesng.com/ladoja-backs-pdps-endorsement-jonathan/

3. Ajimobi isn't a mobiliser, the mobilisers in Oyo State- Ladoja, Akala, PDP and Makinde(SDP) are all signed up to Jonathan's project.

4.You know Nothing about the who is who in OyÓ politics. Let me remind you that as at today, APC is hated by Accord in Oyo State. In fact, AP wouldn't want to have any business with APC.

On Lagos State, Bola Tinubu may still have his grip in the APC but his control of Lagos politics is overrated. The Lagos PDP is united, Jimi Agbaje is the New Kid on the block, the OPC who were usually sympathetic to AD/AC are now pro-GEJ. I won't even talk of non indigens.

For Ondo State, Olusola Oke and Mimiko has been reconciled by Jonathan. They are all working for the Presido, the APC need to be updated. www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/03/ondo-pdp-unites-for-jonathans-victory/

For Ekiti, what brought ACN to power in 2010 was the Fayose support for the party's candidate fayemi. Otherwise Oni(then PDP) would have coast home victorious. Fayose structure moved against Fayemi in 2014 and we all know the outcome (similar scenario is playing in Ogun). Also APC lost a faction loyal to Bamidele to LP. APC has no structure in Ekiti State, they couldn't even win a LG. Omisore did in Osun.

I have no time to comment on other crap, I believe these few words are enough


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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 3:27pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:


I'm aware of the charade of the senatorial primary that was belatedly organised by Aregbe. Words on the street indicates Fadahunsi will clinch it based on the Ife/Ijesha factor you mentioned above.

I was told omoworare is a prince of the Ife kingdom (Aderemi) but Omisore still holds the ace. I am aware Fadahunsi is well loved by all in Ilesha where he is from, even my APC friends from iluusha love him. That again should count for something in the presidential election.
U are right even my dad co-worker who's a stinkly APC will vote him cuz he's a good man
Ife is PDP mere hearing omisore is enough just like buahri in North

Another area is ikirun where PDP will win oduoye is just mouthed (thanks to kangaroo APC primaries)
This factors and some others am telling many Osun vote will be split and APC won't have a field day rigging

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by hazyfm: 3:34pm On Mar 18, 2015
barcanista:
This is very typical of any pro-APC crap... But for the sake of politics let me comment on some issues.

1.
Obasanjo has never been a determining factor in SW Politics. He lost SW to Falae in 1999, he only won in 2003 because the AD endorsed him. His faction couldn't secure seat for Iyabo in 2011. Ladoja won Oyo in 2003 because of Pa Adedibu and his(Ladoja's) goodwill. Fayose won Ekiti in 2003 because of he was loved by the grassroot. Obasanjo only influenced the victory of Olagunsoye Oyinlola(Osun) in 2003 thanks to the support of Iyola Omisore, though his candidate was kicked out 4 years after. In Ogun Daniel is known to be a mobilizer with lots of grassroot followers(mostly touts), his combine force with Amosun and Obj helped kicked Osoba. However, Daniel remained a key with loyalists in prominent positions even out of office. How many Reps from Ogun State are loyal to Obasanjo(0)? How many are loyal to Daniel(2)? Amosun (2), But Osoba (5). How many Senators are loyal to Obj(0), all Ogun Senators are core loyalists of Osoba. Loyalists not just Associates. How many commissioners can resign because of Obasanjo?(0). Amosun power house is Ogun Central but he isn't finding it easy at all as at today.

Às for Tinubu, he has seen a slip in his political fortune. He lost in Ondo in 2012, lost in Ekiti in 2014 but won Osun. In Ogun State, he isn't even a factor. ACN won in 2011 by using Osoba's Structure with Amosun candidacy. The leftover Afenifere that were with Tinubu in 2003 are no longer with him.

2. When you say Oyo, you deliberately played down the relevance of the Speakership. You even went as far as saying Ladoja/Accord won't campaign for GEJ, in fact you gave Ogbomoso to APC. This is very fuNny.
1. Accord Officially endorsed GEJ www.firstafricanews.ng/index.php?dbs=openlist&s=14605
2. Oyo State Chapter of Accord through Oyebisi Ílaka, the Party's CentrÀl Senatoral Candidate and core loyalist of Ladoja shed light on the endorsement
www.theinfostride.com/forum/nigerian-news/why-accord-party-(ap)-endorsed-jonathan/?wap2

3. Ladoja himself endorsed GEJ
https://www.mynewswatchtimesng.com/ladoja-backs-pdps-endorsement-jonathan/

3. Ajimobi isn't a mobiliser, the mobilisers in Oyo State- Ladoja, Akala, PDP and Makinde(SDP) are all signed up to Jonathan's project.

4.You know Nothing about the who is who in OyÓ politics. Let me remind you that as at today, APC is hated by Accord in Oyo State. In fact, AP wouldn't want to have any business with APC.

On Lagos State, Bola Tinubu may still have his grip in the APC but his control of Lagos politics is overrated. The Lagos PDP is united, Jimi Agbaje is the New Kid on the block, the OPC who were usually sympathetic to AD/AC are now pro-GEJ. I won't even talk of non indigens.

For Ondo State, Olusola Oke and Mimiko has been reconciled by Jonathan. They are all working for the Presido, the APC need to be updated. www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/03/ondo-pdp-unites-for-jonathans-victory/

For Ekiti, what brought ACN to power in 2010 was the Fayose support for the party's candidate fayemi. Otherwise Oni(then PDP) would have coast home victorious. Fayose structure moved against Fayemi in 2014 and we all know the outcome (similar scenario is playing in Ogun). Also APC lost a faction loyal to Bamidele to LP. APC has no structure in Ekiti State, they couldn't even win a LG. Omisore did in Osun.

I have no time to comment on other crap, I believe these few words are enough

I LAUGHED WHEN U SAID AJIMOBI IS NOT A MOBILIZER... I PROMISED NOT TO COMMENT ON ANY OF YOUR POSTS TILL MARCH 29,2015

BUT THIS ONE GOT ME LAUGHING grin grin grin grin
SAI BABA

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by DVanguard: 3:38pm On Mar 18, 2015
HzRF:

U are right even my dad co-worker who's a stinkly APC will vote him cuz he's a good man
Ife is PDP mere hearing omisore is enough just like buahri in North

Another area is ikirun where PDP will win oduoye is just mouthed (thanks to kangaroo APC primaries)
This factors and some others am telling many Osun vote will be split and APC won't have a field day rigging

I laugh at ur analysis. Fadanhunsi is not a match of Aregbe in ilesha while Omisore cannot deliver IFE to PDP. Omisore election is different frm Presidential election. My question is what will be the achievement of GEJ in Osun or IFE that will warrant them to vote him.
Which of the Oduoye, the late Oduoye or which one. Story for the gods, Osun is locked down for APC.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 3:45pm On Mar 18, 2015
HzRF:

U are right even my dad co-worker who's a stinkly APC will vote him cuz he's a good man
Ife is PDP mere hearing omisore is enough just like buahri in North

Another area is ikirun where PDP will win oduoye is just mouthed (thanks to kangaroo APC primaries)
This factors and some others am telling many Osun vote will be split and APC won't have a field day rigging

I am bold to say this election is in the bag but we have to work really hard and not rest until results are announced on the 30th.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Scatterboss(m): 3:50pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:


I am bold to say this election is in the bag but we have to work really hard and not rest until results are announced on the 30th.

Sir, How can you work hard for what you already have in the bag? cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy I love how you guys are underestimating the real men on the field, we shall see next week. cool

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 4:16pm On Mar 18, 2015
Scatterboss:


Sir, How can you work hard for what you already have in the bag? cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy I love how you guys are underestimating the real men on the field, we shall see next week. cool

We will never underestimate any opponent in this kind of contest especially when we know the 'perfect plans' APC has put in place for rigging.

I like one thing the APC did; they have kept the PDP on its toes and that has made everybody on the Jonathan project work extra hard. March 30 is around the corner, I just hope you lot won't scream rigging.

The effort we have put into this will definitely lead us to the path of victory.

What you guys have spent so far is noise; 90% of the APC campaign budget went into rigging plans. The truth is out but you won't be told until you have lost this election.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by henryangelo: 4:17pm On Mar 18, 2015
barcanista:
This is very typical of any pro-APC crap... But for the sake of politics let me comment on some issues.

1.
Obasanjo has never been a determining factor in SW Politics. He lost SW to Falae in 1999, he only won in 2003 because the AD endorsed him. His faction couldn't secure seat for Iyabo in 2011. Ladoja won Oyo in 2003 because of Pa Adedibu and his(Ladoja's) goodwill. Fayose won Ekiti in 2003 because of he was loved by the grassroot. Obasanjo only influenced the victory of Olagunsoye Oyinlola(Osun) in 2003 thanks to the support of Iyola Omisore, though his candidate was kicked out 4 years after. In Ogun Daniel is known to be a mobilizer with lots of grassroot followers(mostly touts), his combine force with Amosun and Obj helped kicked Osoba. However, Daniel remained a key with loyalists in prominent positions even out of office. How many Reps from Ogun State are loyal to Obasanjo(0)? How many are loyal to Daniel(2)? Amosun (2), But Osoba (5). How many Senators are loyal to Obj(0), all Ogun Senators are core loyalists of Osoba. Loyalists not just Associates. How many commissioners can resign because of Obasanjo?(0). Amosun power house is Ogun Central but he isn't finding it easy at all as at today.

Às for Tinubu, he has seen a slip in his political fortune. He lost in Ondo in 2012, lost in Ekiti in 2014 but won Osun. In Ogun State, he isn't even a factor. ACN won in 2011 by using Osoba's Structure with Amosun candidacy. The leftover Afenifere that were with Tinubu in 2003 are no longer with him.

2. When you say Oyo, you deliberately played down the relevance of the Speakership. You even went as far as saying Ladoja/Accord won't campaign for GEJ, in fact you gave Ogbomoso to APC. This is very fuNny.
1. Accord Officially endorsed GEJ www.firstafricanews.ng/index.php?dbs=openlist&s=14605
2. Oyo State Chapter of Accord through Oyebisi Ílaka, the Party's CentrÀl Senatoral Candidate and core loyalist of Ladoja shed light on the endorsement
www.theinfostride.com/forum/nigerian-news/why-accord-party-(ap)-endorsed-jonathan/?wap2

3. Ladoja himself endorsed GEJ
https://www.mynewswatchtimesng.com/ladoja-backs-pdps-endorsement-jonathan/

3. Ajimobi isn't a mobiliser, the mobilisers in Oyo State- Ladoja, Akala, PDP and Makinde(SDP) are all signed up to Jonathan's project.

4.You know Nothing about the who is who in OyÓ politics. Let me remind you that as at today, APC is hated by Accord in Oyo State. In fact, AP wouldn't want to have any business with APC.

On Lagos State, Bola Tinubu may still have his grip in the APC but his control of Lagos politics is overrated. The Lagos PDP is united, Jimi Agbaje is the New Kid on the block, the OPC who were usually sympathetic to AD/AC are now pro-GEJ. I won't even talk of non indigens.

For Ondo State, Olusola Oke and Mimiko has been reconciled by Jonathan. They are all working for the Presido, the APC need to be updated. www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/03/ondo-pdp-unites-for-jonathans-victory/

For Ekiti, what brought ACN to power in 2010 was the Fayose support for the party's candidate fayemi. Otherwise Oni(then PDP) would have coast home victorious. Fayose structure moved against Fayemi in 2014 and we all know the outcome (similar scenario is playing in Ogun). Also APC lost a faction loyal to Bamidele to LP. APC has no structure in Ekiti State, they couldn't even win a LG. Omisore did in Osun.

I have no time to comment on other crap, I believe these few words are enough
The gods have spoken, APCOWS, pls bro no waste your energy for those APC guys,they are brainless
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Scatterboss(m): 4:26pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:


We will never underestimate any opponent in this kind of contest especially when we know the 'perfect plans' APC has put in place for rigging.

I like one thing the APC did; they have kept the PDP on its toes and that has made everybody on the Jonathan project work extra hard. March 30 is around the corner, I just hope you lot won't scream rigging.

The effort we have put into this will definitely lead us to the path of victory.

What you guys have spent so far is noise; 90% of the APC campaign budget went into rigging plans. The truth is out but you won't be told until you have lost this election.

Firstly, I am not a card carrying member of any party so i dont know the meaning of after you have lost the election. This thread is a counter thread on how GEJ will win the SW, but the reality on ground is not what you guys portray it to be. Imagine, 90% of APC budget went into rigging plans shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked You must be a spiritual auditor cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


The PDP have been the one making much noise and banking on endorsement by Baales, Buruji Kashamu and OPC cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by ngoziiwenofu1: 4:29pm On Mar 18, 2015
GEJ will win in all the states in Nigeria.
For those who are conversant with the much revered Oba of Benin, it is note worthy to state that he hardly involves himself with politics. Also from history the gifts that the Oba presents to political leaders has a great effect on the lives and political inter play of the recipient's. In some cases that he had offered a particular gift to a former military despot, the interpretation was to mean that the days of the military ruler in office were numbered. And true to it this was what happened to the military ruler. Please note that the Oba does not leave his palace and you as the leader must go to him, whomever you think you are. The days of APC is numbered let them at their risk accuse the Oba of receiving bribe.



http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/178409-oba-of-benin-assures-jonathan-of-election-victory.html
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by tellmemore15: 4:30pm On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:
GEJ to win South West is a very difficult task but politics is a game which requires major and minor players. Lots of factors are against GEJ winning SW.
There are two major schools of thoughts in the South West;
1. The regional champions who believe they need to grow from their performance in the region to national politics. (The Progressives led by Tinubu)
2. The national champions who believe they can muscle they national spread on the regional SW politics. (The Conservatives led by Obj).
The two minority schools of thoughts in the SW;
1. The disgruntled or out of favour champions that falls out due to power play in their respective states in the progressive camp. (Progressive fallout – SDP and Afenifere)
2. The selected few that due to their closeness to the President and the fallout of their seeking relevance by taking order from Ota while they can do that with their closeness to the Presidency. (Conservative fallout)
South West politics is very dynamic; lots of factors determine their voting pattern. Local election cannot be used as a yardstick to decide their voting pattern. Most times their votes are determined by the value and quality of the candidate in the National Politics.
Factors SW consider when choosing candidate nationally based on history of their voting pattern since 1999 – 2011.
1. Perceived victim of victimization by the particular group/zone of people against a candidate. (for example yar’adua’s cabal against GEJ 2010).
2. National policies like fuel subsidy. (Fuel price in SW region is most times within the regulated price because of the understanding of its sensitivity of the policy to them).
3. They are most times less concerned about the National Politics as long as their local champion delivers on their said promises. (If one of their local champions is involved then they tend to partake).
4. They check the performance of the candidates based on the current reality on ground and pinch their tent with the one that will defend their interest most.
5. Political leaders are respected based on the perspective of the area within the regions they control. Political leader must have contributed meaningful to the area or state he belongs to, he must be seen to be humble and not abusive and must be seen to have a sense of direction.

GEJ lost the battle for SW by committing the worst blunder by allowing two major gladiators in a region to fight him. (Obj & Tinubu). Tinubu relevance in SW politics started 2003 when he was the only governor to survive the tactical blunder committed by his party members (AD) and Afenifere. Since then he had made his in root to the hearts of SW by producing Governors of impeccable characters and known for excellence in their professional field before joining politics. These are some of the factors that affect PDP in some of the state elections. Tinubu has been successful even in the face of defeat in Ondo and Ekiti election. Ondo Election was not about Tinubu but the exemplary performance of the governor Mimiko against an unknown Akeredolu (a legal luminary), it was a political blunder while that of Ekiti state is a politics that I don’t understand but the popularity of Fayose cannot be overlooked regardless of his thug like character. (Might be linked to the dissatisfaction of the civil servants against fayemi’s policy).
Obasanjo might not be relevant in the local politics of SW but he has always been the stabilizing factor in the SW conservative party. He single handed ensured the relevance of PDP in SW with finance and political position giving to his lieutenants. His inability to show significant development in the SW has not made him accepted as the Leader of Yoruba’s after being the President of Nigeria and them voting en-mass for him 2003. He has been a major source of success of PDP in the SW.

State by state analysis will be presumed on five factors namely;
1. Performance
2. Political structure
3. Political gladiators
4. Perspective of the ordinary SW.
5. Ethnicity/religion

EKITI;
Ekiti state will be a very tight race. The charisma and the do-or-die attitude of the Governor will play a major role, either positive or negative march 28 will decide. The incumbent will have a lot on his way because he still enjoys the goodwill of his people based on his flawless victory in his election. The negative aspect of it is that fayose have not been able to manage his success within his party rank. The state primaries have caused lot of problem between him and some of the gladiators that helped him during his election. Like Senator Arise and Senator Gbenga Aluko etc. He runs the state PDP like his personal property. He calls the shot which can go well for him or work against him. The opposition in the state have succeeded in painting him in bad light among the elite which has a minimal impact in local politics but heavy impact in National politics. The APC succeeded in mending fence with their arch rival LP candidate, he is back into their fold. The perspective of an average Yoruba man politically still believes in the school of thoughts of Awolowo, which Tinubu’s group have clung to over time. If APC follows Awolowo's ideology is a discussing for another day.
Finally, since 2011 politically the SW have been marginalised from National politics and no meaning full development in Ekiti from the Federal Govt., and there is this noise of ‘na our son make he dey there’ wont they want their fellow ethnic person be there too.

VERDICT:
Fayose is loved as a person but his ability to convince his people to vote GEJ is another task to see his doggedness against all odds.
If he succeeds PDP 55% while APC 45%, but if he fails PDP 35% APC 65%.

ONDO;

Ondo State is a state that the governor has lost his goodwill from the people due to lots of labour issue. The movement of from LP to PDP has weakling his political strength. The people he met in PDP moved to APC and some of the aggrieved members of his former LP who could not get recognition based on the movement from LP to PDP fell out and joined APC. Formerly the politics of Ondo state is shared along senatorial zones. Ondo North is the strong base of APC led by Boroface and co, Ondo Central is the strong base of LP led by the Gov himself Mimiko while Ondo South is led by late Agagu camp PDP. The current fall out has made APC strong in two senatorial zones while PDP Ondo Central.
Mimiko is the all in all today in Ondo PDP, while APC has leaders in every zone of the strength of Mimiko (but not as strong as mimiko). Their combination would defeat the campaign strategy of mimiko in National politics which can be impossible in Local politics. The problem with PDP in SW will be on what performance bases he will campaign. If he as a Governor campaigned based on his achievement in his state what will he campaign with as the president’s achievement in Ondo state.
The love his people had for him 2012 is lost which will play also a major role in his ability to convince the electorate. Our son syndrome will also play a major role.
The perspective of GEJ in this area is very poor. Forget the endorsement of falae and afenifere, Falae has never won any election he sponsored since 2003 in Akure. He is respected but that has never transcended to votes.

VERDICT;
PDP 30% APC 70%

OSUN ;

This is a no go area for PDP. Sen. Omisore is the only political gladiator in PDP. Omisore will have to slug it out with the Governor and the interest of the God father of APC VP Osinbanjo town. The other senatorial zone is a complete no go area for PDP.
Osun state is a complete lock down area for APC. Lots of factors favour APC. Discussing this state is a waste of energy.

VERDICT;
PDP 20% APC 80%

OYO;

This is a state that parades lots of gladiators in different zones of the state. But PDP have played lots of bad politics earlier which back fired against them. This a state that is Muslim dominated and religion sometimes plays a factor in their choice of candidature. PDP also played the card of APC frustrating the interest of Yoruba’s by blocking the emergency of their daughter Mulikat as Speaker of the House. Today, APC chose a Yoruba man as VP which is higher and have significant importance than speaker. I don’t know how PDP will convince them to vote GEJ when they have a fellow ethnic nationality in a higher position. (They can’t still understand the advantage of Bankole to SW when he was Speaker).
Oyo State is classified into 4 zones. Ibadan, Oyo town, Ogbomosho, Oke-ogun and they are led by different gladiators. Ibadan is a strong hold of Ladoja and the incumbent Gov Ajumobi with voting power of 60 – 40% respectively. The most interesting thing is that Ibadan determines one-third of the voting strength with 11 LG. Ladoja will never canvass for PDP or APC because he knows their success in Presidential election will affect his chances. His bosom friend that led to his fallout with Obj is now a leader in APC (Atiku). The PDP Gov candidate Teslim is a nobody and carries no weight compared to the earlier two candidates in Ibadan. Therefore it is a clean a battle for APC in Ibadan.
Oyo town is locked down for APC because of the cordial relationship between the Oba and the Incumbent gov. This is the only town in SW that the Oba has lots of influence in the election in his domain. His son is a candidate of APC contesting for Fed. Rep.
Ogbomosho is another big town in SW and Oyo state. The big fish in this town is Alao Akala. His fallout with PDP is a big blow and will do anything to ensure that PDP does not win Presidential and Senatorial election because of his ambition to become the governor. The next strong gladiator to him is Hon. Buhari (APC) who is contesting for senate. He is not a match for Akala but he can climb on Akala’s grand stand against PDP senatorial candidate from Oke-ogun and his gubernatorial ambition.
Oke-ogun is a battle ground between PDP and APC. The deputy governor is from oke ogun while the incumbent senator is also from Oke ogun. Oke ogun have always been a APC enclave until Senator Agboola Hosea broke the jinx. Winning local election is different from national election, especially when the perspective of the PDP Presidential candidate in these areas is very poor.
Religion and ethnicity will play a major role.

VERDICT;
PDP 30% APC 70%

OGUN;

There is little to talk about here because, a son of the soil is involved. He is not just a son of the soil but a renowned professional religiously and excellent in his career. The fallout of Osoba from APC cannot deem the chance in the presidential race (it might in guber) because Osoba cannot work alongside with Gbenga Daniel. SDP National might adopt GEJ but Osoba will never because 2003 election mistake is still fresh in his memory.

VERDICT;
PDP 20% APC 80%

LAGOS;

History as always showed that candidate that Tinubu supports have always won the Presidential Election in Lagos state since 1999. Obj won Lagos in 2003 because AD did not field any Presidential Candidate. 2007 PDP lost Lagos state to Atiku because of Tinubu’s influence.
Tinubu strength in Lagos state can only be matched by Late Engr. Funsho Williams. Who understand the workings of Yoruba politics by not attempting to join the PDP at the National (he might get contracts but ensured he did not meddle into National Politics). He played his politics within Lagos and has the grassroot structure like Tinubu. He and Tinubu were contemporaries in AD 1998 before he left for PDP. Since his demise PDP Lagos has not been able to muscle such grass root structure again. The structure merged with Tinubu in 2007.
PDP needs to up their game which is already late. The fuel subsidy protest has painted the Fed government in bad light. The inability of the FG to bring the cabals, fraudsters to justice and the promised refinery is a big minus. This state is the commercial heart of the nation. Propaganda can’t fly to an extent because they feel the effect of government policies faster than any state in the federation. The state is blessed with different people all over the country because of his economic advantage which is perceived to be the hard work of the ruling party APC. Most of the eligible voters are knowledgeable, they are vast in one aspect or the other and well informed.

VERDICT;
PDP 30% APC 70%.

CONCLUSION;
Personally I don’t see PDP winning SW because of lots of factors that cannot be discussed at once. GEJ does not have a well trusted, respected Elder from Yoruba Land that some people will listen to across the 6 states in his team. No matter how u view it, Yoruba’s look up to some people because of their achievement in Life and success. Allowing Tinubu and OBj to work against him in the SW is the worst that can happen to a person.

Buhari/Osinbajo will win SW vote’s landslide.



@barcanista, @Gbawe

i am waiting to see how a yoruba man/woman will queue in the sun for hours only to vote for Buhari at the end of the day.
i dey wait, unless no be southwest i grow up.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 5:17pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:


I am bold to say this election is in the bag but we have to work really hard and not rest until results are announced on the 30th.
Yes oo

Cuz APC is ready to rig
Aregbe has never paid salaries ND he still boasting he will win

But info my uncle PDP is ready for them
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 5:29pm On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:


I laugh at ur analysis. Fadanhunsi is not a match of Aregbe in ilesha while Omisore cannot deliver IFE to PDP. Omisore election is different frm Presidential election. My question is what will be the achievement of GEJ in Osun or IFE that will warrant them to vote him.
Which of the Oduoye, the late Oduoye or which one. Story for the gods, Osun is locked down for APC.
Let me ask are u from Osun or in Osun cuz
If u are in Osun Ife don't wanna hear APC not after rigging their son out
Fadahunsii will massacre omoworare some1 can't win ordinary primary after 3yrs as a senator
Kayode oduoye even oba ikirun (APC campaign member) can't hold him
Goan check his rally and what pple are saying

Ifedayo lg where I hail from senator adeyeye can only win 1 lg out of 3 in ora where he comes from oke ila is going for PDP
Ede lg adeleke has told the king to talk to bello and reconcile them cuz what happened in gov poll still surprise him and he knws if ede vote is divided his chances will be slimmer
Am telling u this so that u won't be shocked when u heared Osun result
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by ziccoit: 5:32pm On Mar 18, 2015
tellmemore15:


i am waiting to see how a yoruba man/woman will queue in the sun for hours only to vote for Buhari at the end of the day.
i dey wait, unless no be southwest i grow up.

I'm also waiting to see how a Yoruba will queue under scorching sun only to vote GEJ a SSner in place of their son Osinbajo a SWner.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by seunmsg(m): 5:57pm On Mar 18, 2015
sincerenigerian:
I expect APC to win the South-west but not in a landslide. I don't see APC winning Ekiti and Ondo. I expect APC to win Lagos, Oyo, Osun, Ogun and narrowly lose Ekiti and Ondo.

Good job from the creator of this thread.

The only state PDP can win narrowly in the south west is Ekiti. Don't be deceived by Mimiko's presence in PDP, Buhari will win Ondo state with a landslide. You can bookmark this and quote me after the election.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by pcicero(m): 7:04pm On Mar 18, 2015
Canme4u:


Everything you said about Oyo state is true except the Bolded(The religion aspect of it)

We Oyo state people don't care about religion on our choice of leadership. In one family it is a must for you to see people of different religions i.e. Muslim, Christian and even Traditional worshiper. We put our religion beliefs behind us when selecting our leaders. Have you ever wonder why politicians never use that tactics in S.W. ?

Alao Akala is a Christian and we voted for him in 2007, I personaly canvas votes for him in 2007 and I also voted against him in 2011.


This is how I will cast my votes.

President > GMB APC

Governor > Ajimobi APC

Oyo central Senatorial District > Chief Bisi Ilaka Accord

House of Rep. > SKIME APC

My house of Assembly > Barr. Muheeden Olagunju Accord

The only difference between my voting pertern and my Dad is house of Assembly. He is going for APC instead of Accord that I support.

My conclussion, religion is not our issues in South West and GEJ WILL NOT EVEN GET 10% VOTES IN SOUTH WEST, I REAPEAT, GEJ will not even get 10% votes from any SW states.

Sorry bro, please which Barr. Muheeden Olagunju? Is he the one that read Law at OAU from Oyo town?

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Canme4u(m): 7:43pm On Mar 18, 2015
pcicero:


Sorry bro, please which Barr. Muheeden Olagunju? Is he the one that read Law at OAU from Oyo town?

Yes baws, he is the one.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by oakson: 8:03pm On Mar 18, 2015
@op good job!
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by oakson: 8:04pm On Mar 18, 2015
barcanista:
I don't know whether you read my piece or you jumped to conclusion. For a start, I said Ogbomoso is under the grip of Akala, Akala is an unapologetic GEJ supporter and has publicly endorsed Jonathan for President www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/south-west-leaders-endorse-jonathan/ he never liked APC and will never work for them. Same for Ibadan AP and Ladoja.

Let me refresh your mind on 2011, there was major crack within the PDP. Some stayed with Akala, some went with Ladoja to Accord, while few anti-Akala led by Folarin remained in PDP but openly worked against Akala. Most of the anti-Akala openly worked with AC.N. Accord was so unpopular but rode on Ladoja's goodwill. At the end Oyo state AC N vote was 420,167, PDP 386, 480, ACCORD 275,151. OYo AC also won 2 Senate with Akala's PDP winning 1 Senate. Today, 60% of the APC chieftains includiong all 2 Senators are now with Accord. In the State Parliament even APC members went to Accord or LP. Accord, PDP, SDP and LP may have their disagreement when it comes to local politics, they are ALL working for Jonathan's Presidency. I have given you public endorsements. For the Guber election, it is between AP and LP...APC is out of contention.

For Ekiti, you all still whine and won't come to terms with the reality. You claimed Obj rigged 2003 for PDP Gov, this is typical of opposition.

For Ondo State, I have showed you how Mimiko and Oke have been reconciled but you kept calling Agagu. Agagu that couldn't win his reelection and Agagu that couldn't deliever Ondo to Oke in 2012. Well, we know that the "few" Agagu loyalists are splitted, some with Oke, others are moving to APC but they can't even outnumber Mimiko. Beside, Both Oke and Mimiko are core Jonathanians. Whether you like it or not, Oke and Mimiko are united as long as Ondo South is concerned.

For Lagos State, you don't expect me to be arguing bedroom talk, but the PDP is united for the first time since 2006. All groups are core pro-Janathan(Koro and George groups).

Let me remind you that the case of Ogun has been dealt repeatedly, I can't be repeating myself.

In summary, as long as the Presidential poll is concerned, AP/Ladoja, LP/Akala, SDP/Makinde, AD, Afenifere, and PDP are signed up for Jonathan in Oyo State.

SDP/Osoba/Odunsi, PDP/GNI/OGD, LP, AD are working for GEJ in Ogun State.

Fayose/PdP and his team plus others are workin in Ekiti state

Mimiko, LP, Oke and others are working in Ondo

Koro, George, Adams, Fasheun, and ors are working for GEJ in Lagos

Omisore controls in Osun(this is where APC have hope).


Remember what happened in 2003 when AD leaders thought the split of Afenifere won't affect them, it cost them the Govership in all 6 states except Lagos.
Oga forget pdp in ondo state o, Olusola Oke is as weightless as a feather(don't just mention that at all). The ondo electorates voted (then) against agagu for mimiko cos they wanted CHANGE! Not anymore, Ondo people our silent killers, even an average ondo dog is barking sai baba! U claim to know too much yet you know little! People has taken their precious time to fault your rodo and tomato analysis yet you won't cease whining! Your supposed change to pdp has even done nothing on this forum; this gives credence to the fact that this is unarguably beyond your scope.
I Still Respect You Though!
Peace!

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 8:17pm On Mar 18, 2015
HzRF:

Yes oo

Cuz APC is ready to rig
Aregbe has never paid salaries ND he still boasting he will win

But info my uncle PDP is ready for them

They still have more tricks up their sleeves but men are ready for them.

Ta lon je omo aperin ni iwaju omo apayan.

APC, what a penkelemess (peculiar mess).
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 8:23pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:


They still have more tricks up their sleeves but men are ready for them.

Ta lon je omo aperin ni iwaju omo apayan.

APC, what a penkelemess (peculiar mess).
Lol
Just can't wait for gej to return
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by onatisi(m): 9:15pm On Mar 18, 2015
Barcanista ,what did u eat before typing all these? The instance I saw u mention obj as a political gladiator in yoruba politics ,I stopped reading the rest. All what u wrote here are political fantasies or abstract theories that have rooting. What is on ground is 100000000000000000% different from what u wrote down. Maybe u based ur opinion on conversations u had with bankers and lawyers.if u want to know the true level of things in nigeria ,go to the base groups like meat sellers,conductors,drivers,hawkers,etc . Then u will know. But as at today the 17th of march , for the presidential pdp already has 50 %of yoruba votes . Forget apc noise makers on nairaland . For governorship in oyo state it is a fight to finish as the 5 leading contenders have equal chance ,in ogun state ,osoba will and has broken apc voters base . The 3 parties have equal chance . There is no way apc will win ondo and ekiti,forget what u read on nairaland. There is a proverb in yoruba politics . Oju ni oselu ,inu ni ibo wa,meaning politics is a face thing,voting is inside the mind .
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by DVanguard: 9:45pm On Mar 18, 2015
HzRF:

Let me ask are u from Osun or in Osun cuz
If u are in Osun Ife don't wanna hear APC not after rigging their son out
Fadahunsii will massacre omoworare some1 can't win ordinary primary after 3yrs as a senator
Kayode oduoye even oba ikirun (APC campaign member) can't hold him
Goan check his rally and what pple are saying

Ifedayo lg where I hail from senator adeyeye can only win 1 lg out of 3 in ora where he comes from oke ila is going for PDP
Ede lg adeleke has told the king to talk to bello and reconcile them cuz what happened in gov poll still surprise him and he knws if ede vote is divided his chances will be slimmer
Am telling u this so that u won't be shocked when u heared Osun result

It is complete waste of time arguing with you. Osun PDP knows they cannot win, they are only banking on providing 25% of the vote of Osun.
Adeleke would call for reconciliation with bello, are u for real. A zone that boast of Adeleke, Peter Power and the ourgoing senator mudasiru. Who in that zone can confront the fire power of these three individual. abeg park well. Dis discussion is not for kids but for real open minded and constructive men.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 10:19pm On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:


It is complete waste of time arguing with you. Osun PDP knows they cannot win, they are only banking on providing 25% of the vote of Osun.
Adeleke would call for reconciliation with bello, are u for real. A zone that boast of Adeleke, Peter Power and the ourgoing senator mudasiru. Who in that zone can confront the fire power of these three individual. abeg park well. Dis discussion is not for kids but for real open minded and constructive men.
Lolz
Weda u are been fed with lies or u decided to ignore d fact

Which senatorial district can adeleke can outrighly win after answering DAT goan check d gubernatorial results
Who is peter power all that na story for gods peter power has died politically I tot he was interesting in d seat what happened
He was benched
Better stop deceiving ursef I stay in ede ND I get real news not news paper news
If u here "afe senator no,deputy na ye was!

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