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Only a mentally derailed human will doubt the existance of the creator of universe we call home.

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Not believing in God is a sin even the Devil did not commit

Well I will say that there are definitely stuff we can't explain....loads sef..but really, to think about it....there,s a lot yet to be explained..like
How is blood created
The complex nature of the human body
The array of the planets in their orbits
The sun
The waterworld
And all tese in unison for centuries........i guess it's planned


I,ll take my chances and believe there's a greater power somewhere

funmo:
DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

but it is rather wise if one agrees there is a God, and makes heaven, and afterwards discover there isn't God after all... nothing to lose

THAN

to argue till death that God doesn't exist, and afterwards discover he does, and end up in fire



BUT THE FIRST LADY SUMS IT ALL UP ATHEISTS





"chai... there is Godu o o o..."

It is wise to live your life without worshipping any god, than to worship one and die to realise that there are thousands of other gods who all are angry with you for worshipping a false god. Rather be neutral than pick the wrong side. Savvy?

Tallesty1:
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Atheists Belief Without Certain Proof and that is a form of faith. They can't prove to me that God doesn't exist same I cannot do that to them yet we belief in our opinions, that is faith.

good

An atheist in a bus has no proof that he will reach
his destination successfully yet he beliefs he will,
that is faith.

wrong

davien:

No,a large number of atheists aren't rationalists...And those that are,don't have to "believe in" anything....you're merely equivocating(exchanging the words) "believe in" instead of "accept" to conjure a resonance of faith...

This is already a fallacy in itself....

Starting by equivocating words to imply faith....you then moved forward to attach your misunderstanding of a scientific theory....

Let us see where this leads to.



In the very same context you're using....it could be said that atheist(more specifcly,the rationalists) also "believe in"(the appropriate term is accept) Newtonian physics....does that magically turn gravity into a belief?

Even so,your dishonest presupposition(pre-concluded assumption) falls apart when you've already said "most atheists"....so you're also generalizing your observation based on a selected group.

Lets proceed.



Tell me what you mean here...because I need you to define your terms here....

And I also question the basis for calling the earth "designed"....what is the determinant of a designed earth?....can you provide or tell me how an undesigned earth would look like...so as to know?

And the reality we share doesn't remotely favour common sense.

Our intuition would tell us that between an egg and a boulder,dropped at the same time and from the same height....that the boulder should hit the ground first(because it's heavier)....but reality differs....

They both hit the ground at the same time(in fact, this is a standard test in physics to demonstrate that our intuitions doesn't matter to any event at play....until demonstrated)

And we've actually witnessed firsthand' the birth of planets and stars from chaotic supernovae...what would you call that?




I doubt any rationalists would say "randomness", but I see perfectly what you're doing...

You're trying to misrepresent the secular position of existence to somehow give your belief a more sane appearance....

The rebuttal I have for this pathetic dishonest misrepresentation is this....

Nature is probabilistic...not entirely random and not entirely ordered,and neither is it neutral(this may shock you ofcourse).....


Lets observe the cell wall....more specificly the semi-permeable membrane....it is a phospholipid bilayer of naturally occuring compounds.

On exposure to water,it's properties(which are determined by the head group and it's chains) form the bilayer by extending its hydrophobic(water dreading) layer in and it's hydrophilic(water loving) layer out...forming the "bilayer" in the process,that keeps the membrane from being permeated by everything(hence the term "semi-permeable"


Note that this function operates due to contrasting features that do not go together(i.e the hydrophobic effect)....but because of probabilistic qualities it encounters...it serves as a building block of cells...literally the walls.



I doubt you know the "law" you're talking about, may we know what this law is called and it's full implications....Is it thermodynamics?

Because if it is,you should have known that "order" and "disorder" in thermodynamics are referred to as "entropy" and entropy actually has values(I.e J/k )...and the total entropy of a system is determined by the work(useful energy)....

And since energy isn't created or destroyed(1st law) ....work gets rearranged into different forms(2nd law)....ofwhich one of those forms is matter.... (2nd law)



This is the hypocrisy of it all, after equivocating and misrepresenting everything you can....you then thank those who subscribe to the same faith you do...for support...

Good job, by this rate the well knowledgeable would depart from your religion after witnessing the extents used to retain the belief.

Gosh so tired, it takes much work to expose a lie than to tell it...And I believe I've exposed you quite well...

Anyone willing to know any of this should either go to a noteable school of thought, library , google, etc lol

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_bilayer

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/therm/entrop.html

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_%28order_and_disorder%29

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrophobic_effect

Bogus, but senseless write-up. You refuse to address the issue he raised head-on. what exactly is your point

Oh my world


Really love ur comment and ur view


Wish i can knw and meet u in person cos we share d same view completely about religion


i strongly beleive in myself and i always do good


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Religion is a SCAMquote author=Nipeks post=31767506]Atheists do not claim the Big Bang theory to be a fact. It's just a theory not yet a fact. But unlike the story of creation in most religions, this one is scientifically possible.

The question you people have not been asking yourselves:
If the universe is too complex to exist by chance and was created, then God who is greater than the whole universe must also have been created by something greater which must have been created by something greater. If we follow this theory, there cannot be a first creator.

PS: I am not an atheist. I have no established religion. I believe in only one thing. Myself.[/quote]

I really love your reply bro how i wish to know you cos we share the same beleive


I dont beleive in any religiin to say but i beleive in myself


Religiin is a SCAM


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Nipeks:
Atheists do not claim the Big Bang theory to be a fact. It's just a theory not yet a fact. But unlike the story of creation in most religions, this one is scientifically possible.

The question you people have not been asking yourselves:
If the universe is too complex to exist by chance and was created, then God who is greater than the whole universe must also have been created by something greater which must have been created by something greater. If we follow this theory, there cannot be a first creator.

PS: I am not an atheist. I have no established religion. I believe in only one thing. Myself.

SilentPrince:


It is wise to live your life without worshipping any god, than to worship one and die to realise that there are thousands of other gods who all are angry with you for worshipping a false god. Rather be neutral than pick the wrong side. Savvy?

I actually said God and not god...

arguing wouldn't get a result.. but this would

I pray the one and only God manifests himself to you in seven ways in seven days!!! (not for him to prove a point that he needn't prove, but for you to have a point to prove afterwards)



you will have a decision to make on the 26th


let's meet here on the 27th!!! please

So your own jesus is God?




Chai! U re wrong


Jesus was never a God

Masterclass32:
So many ideas and theories about God and the universe. Some insinuating that theres no God.

Well am glad my Redeemer is alive. His name is Jesus Christ. We communicate daily. He is God and Creator of all things, both seen and unseen. He is alive forever. All Glory and Honour to Him.

I'm thinking the reason why athiests don't have so called "spiritual problems" is because athiests are actually spiritually stronger than religionists, athiests operate from their holy grail while religionists make their lifestyle, what is supposed to just be a part to their holygrail

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were they thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools! Romans 1 vs 20-22

funmo:


I actually said God and not god...

arguing wouldn't get a result.. but this would

I pray the one and only God manifests himself to you in seven ways in seven days!!! (not for him to prove a point that he needn't prove, but for you to have a point to prove afterwards)



you will have a decision to make on the 26th


let's meet here on the 27th!!! please

And i said 'god'. Your god is no different from the thousands that preceded it, and the tens that have come after it. Infact, your god is a very young one. Less than 4000 years old. There have been much older ones like Zeus, Horus etc. All their believers claim theirs to be the most powerful creator of the Universe, yet none have proof for them.

I've been hearing that since 2003. I even met Kumuyi and he said the same thing. Your god doesn't exist, and so i will get no proof or manifestation.

Religion is man's scheme to delude man for personal gains... Be wise.

first, an atheist does not necessarily depend on facts to not believe in the existennce of God, satan and what not. Secondly, you cannot 'believe' in facts, facts be just that, FACTS. Then how is earth 'perfect'? Whats perfect? Think about it, if it be random the resulting thing could be anything, including what earth is now, so yes randomness can result in what earth is. If you looking to retain faith in the existence of 'God', you can, thats you, plus no one prove that he do or dont exist. Its just that looking at mud real close and looking at people real close it dont look the same.

Atheists are non thinkers...











It's just pure Selfishness thinking what you see and feel everyday does not exist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo

My belief is that there is a supreme entity or being, something that governs the universe. However, I don't believe that supreme being is the supreme being of religions.

Because it's abundantly clear that the characteristics and attributes of God in these religious books are false, contradictory. Embodiment of paradox.

They say God is all-knowing, all-merciful, etc yet he will torture you for eternity. I repeat eternity.
How can he say his love for you is unfathomable and his mercy knows no bound but in the same breath say he will PUNISH YOU FOR ETERNITY.

1 billion years and he's still punishing you. Eternal damnation. When does the mercy come into play?

If there's devil in this world whose agents are wicked people that give poison, charm et al, then there must also be a power countering it which I believe is that of God.... Only devil can't prevail in this world. .

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MzNelly:
Atheists are simply confused set of people.

Only a fool will look into the heavens and say "There is no God."

I tried atheism too and quickly got bored when I realized they have no holidays.

SilentPrince:


And i said 'god'. Your god is no different from the thousands that preceded it, and the tens that have come after it. Infact, your god is a very young one. Less than 4000 years old. There have been much older ones like Zeus, Horus etc. All their believers claim theirs to be the most powerful creator of the Universe, yet none have proof for them.

I've been hearing that since 2003. I even met Kumuyi and he said the same thing. Your god doesn't exist, and so i will get no proof or manifestation.

YHWH is different, He's the only One out of these gods that refused to be represented by the works of the hands of man. Also in a free world, creation of gods is allowed. Even Nebuchadrezzar being of flesh and blood called himself god. Even you are a god. Gen 3:5 But the LORD God is one, He is the ANCIENT OF DAYS.

PastorOluT:
smile, I agree with u op. It takes more faith to believe in evolution etc than to believe someone is behind all these complexity, bt no them athiest would still find reasons for their beliefs (oh sorry is it disbeliefs now, smile).

You mean it takes more education and intelligence to understand evolution than it takes to believe in god.

Misogynist2014:
YHWH is different, He's the only One out of these gods that refused to be represented by the works of the hands of man. Also in a free world, creation of gods is allowed. Even Nebuchadrezzar being of flesh and blood called himself god. Even you are a god. Gen 3:5 But the LORD God is one, He is the ANCIENT OF DAYS.

Guess what? That's what worshippers of other gods say about their different gods

Bifwoli:


I tried atheism too and quickly got bored when I realized they have no holidays.

We do have holidays. New year is purely secular.

Phantomstranger:
Well I will say that there are definitely stuff we can't explain....loads sef..but really, to think about it....there,s a lot yet to be explained..like
How is blood created
The complex nature of the human body
The array of the planets in their orbits
The sun
The waterworld
And all tese in unison for centuries........i guess it's planned


I,ll take my chances and believe there's a greater power somewhere

Just because you dont know doesn't mean no one does.

Atheirts are foöls that try to substitute things which need knowledge to understand with probability.

SilentPrince:


Guess what? That's what worshippers of other gods say about their different gods

So do atheists, who worship Beelzebub. If men refuse to vote, they automatically vote for evil people.

kayceerilyn:
if a house can not come.by chance,a stack of rocks cannot be attributed to chance,there is no way our perfect earth will come by chance. It is the work of someone perfect as well.

How is the earth perfect? does the picture of a volcanic eruption depict perfection in your mind? How about a tsunami?

bro4u:
atheist's say there is no God....but they do pray when they are in trouble LOLs....reminds me of one atheist dude

I am an atheist and i don't pray. What's your point?