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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:04am On Mar 19, 2015 |
The South African Mercenaries who rescued the pride of Nigeria 3 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 10:08am On Mar 19, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 10:10am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Thiza: lol... old men above 60 still in combat? we hear you ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:12am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris: The sum of your posts = attacks. Zero substance. Doesn't change the fact that the video is fake and there is no credible source behind it. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:13am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris:To Colonel Eben? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Who told SA mercs are old? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:14am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris: Flying sorties at night can easily be done by an experienced 60 year old. And reports clearly state the mercenaries would wipe hectares of land at night and the NA rolls in to claim the glory in the morning. In any case lots of young mercenaries are known to have been fighting in Sierra Leone? Why not Nigeria? Weak argument. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:20am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris: Listen nice and carefully.... That article is about SA mercs working with a specific group within a specialised unit of the Nigerian Army. Those men are centralized to that specific unit, and are clueless as to numbers, units, weaponery of other PMC in other Nigerian units 100's of kilometers away. No mercenary can confirm or deny numbers. They are mercenaries...not high command. A 45/50/55 year old man with combat experience and highly skilled is just as deadly as a 20 year old. It is not basic training where you have to be super fit. It is training others on maneuvers, movements, clearing, vehicles... things that dont need a 20 year old body. When/if contact is made Boko Haram dont know the difference between a 50 yr old bullet or 23 year old bullet. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:36am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris: South African mercenaries are more and more commonly composed of former members of SAPS and the SANDF - they could have been in uniform a couple of months ago The worlds most famous mercenary gained notoriety at the age of 46 - Mad Mike Hoare |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 10:38am On Mar 19, 2015 |
patches689: Yes you can mentor them. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:40am On Mar 19, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:41am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris: How are they over 60? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 10:43am On Mar 19, 2015 |
DieVluit:hmm, a drowning man clutching desperately at straws, any thing to hold on to. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:44am On Mar 19, 2015 |
rka1: How do you train IN combat without being IN combat? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 10:50am On Mar 19, 2015 |
patches689: Go and read beegeagles article about the 72 Strike Group who are mentored by the South African contractors and are in the forefront. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:51am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Transfer of Condor-E is now confirmed by SIPRI Now we have another advantage over Nigeria 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:52am On Mar 19, 2015 |
rka1: So then, by implication, south africans are in combat? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:55am On Mar 19, 2015 |
rka1: A man hanging himself. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 11:02am On Mar 19, 2015 |
DieVluit: Sorry to disappoint you. I tell it as it is. They are mentored as I have said and then roll out to get the job done. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 11:04am On Mar 19, 2015 |
patches689: Go back to the video posted a few pages ago about the strike group training and you will see what I mean by being trained and mentored. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 11:05am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Keep on dreaming of SA glory. The same contractors your government wants to prosecute probably because they didn't get any kick-,backs from the contract. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:08am On Mar 19, 2015 |
DieVluit: yeah, sierra leon of more than 15 years ago. young? how young? 30+ young? so SA mercs don't age? you're right... weak argument. see what trolling has done to your reasoning. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 11:22am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris: It's simple: Executive Outcomes is/was a company, which means only one thing: It's executives's ability to keep getting business means they are able to get the tools of business they need. One of the tools being men to engage in combat. They did it in Sierra Leone. They are doing it in Nigeria. Sources of men: SADF, SAPS, even SANDF. Weak one-track thinking on your side - to be expected though. Again - a 60 year-old can fly a sortie. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/world/africa/nigerias-fight-against-boko-haram-gets-help-from-south-african-mercenaries.html?_r=0 A senior Western diplomat confirmed that the South Africans were playing “a major operational role,” particularly at night. Equipped with night-vision goggles, the mercenaries “are whacking them in the evening hours,” the diplomat said. A 60-year old can do that. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:26am On Mar 19, 2015 |
patches689: no. south african mercs are more composed of SADF and SAPS members who refused to stay in and serve the post apartheid government. don't come with your white lie of them being members of the AIDS ridden SANDF. you guys are getting deaperate. again. you are a bloody liar. mike hoare was born in 1920 and made his mark from 1960-64 in congo nefore retiring to civilian life. patches, that is 40-44 years. and he was not trained in SA. he was in the british army and settled in SA after the war. even at rhe age of 56 he only played an advisory role in the seychelles coup. your bush war veterans are too old for combat. period. don't try to spin it with your usual lies 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 11:32am On Mar 19, 2015 |
rka1: The way it is being what exactly? So how are they mentored? They come back and say: "Oga white man, guess what we saw today? Boko haram were like this and like that..." And the oga white man says: "Go back and do it like this and like that" Really? In Chris's "high-intensity" war - there is time for that? Rubbish. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:32am On Mar 19, 2015 |
DieVluit: bwahahahahaha.... now that these rats have realized their koevet veterans are too old for combat, they have come up with a new one. SANDF members.. bwahahahahahahaha ![]() yeah sure... a 60 year old can still be combat efficient. good one mate. #troll 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 11:35am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris: Yes but their intelligence and the bullet that comes out of their guns is not old. However, those old Apartheid soldiers have been also secretly recruiting thousands of young white, black and coloured boys particularly whose contract in SANDF were not renewed and further trained them abroad, particularly in Iraq. SA mercenaries have now been rejuvenated with young blood and many do not come from old apartheid forces. Those in Nigeria are suspected to be made of both black and white young men led by more older experienced commanders. The SA institute of security studies has made that report. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 11:36am On Mar 19, 2015 |
stillchris: Again - A 60 year old can fly a sortie. You have advanced no reason as to why that is impossible. Mental weakling. And if I were a troll, you wouldn't be engaging me. By your own President's admission, your men had to be trained on the field because the war is already ongoing. That means only one thing - the South Africans are embedded. The rigmarole of reporting back and getting advice is counter to what your president said anyway. And by your own admission, this is a high-intensity war - which automatically excludes long-distance advice seeking. It has to be instant. Again - mental weakling. stillchris: Below. http://ccs.ukzn.ac.za/files/mercenaries%20in%20Iraq.pdf ..Mental weakling. 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 11:55am On Mar 19, 2015 |
DieVluit: IT IS CLEAR THAT THOUSANDS OF CURRENT ACTIVE SOLDIERS IN SANDF HAVE RESIGNED TO JOIN THESE GROUPS IN IRAQ, SO, SA MERCENARIES ARE NOT OLD AS IN 2015. WELL I HAVE TO AGREE THAT THERE ARE SOME WHO ARE OLD BUT THAT NUMBER IS NOT SIGNIFICANT. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 11:58am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Msauza: Exactly what I am saying - there is more money in mercenary activity and Executive Outcomes and other PMS were/are always on the lookout for the supply of fighters. It follows that some will be tempted as was the case in Iraq. There is more than an adequate supply of young mercenaries. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 12:16pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
DieVluit: MMmmmmm!!! The sources says: [b] SA Mercenaries in Iraq South Africa has been exposed as one of the world's top exporters of military personnel. 65 South Africans have been jailed in Zimbabwe on charges relating to a foiled coup plot in the oil-rich Equatorial Guinea. Even earlier, in 2002, Executive Outcomes was investigated for contravening the Foreign Military Assistance Act in its activities in Sudan. Executive Outcomes members had formed a company called NFD that was contracted by the Sudanese government to help it protect oil fields in southern Sudan. Just how many South Africans are currently supporting the occupation of Iraq is estimated to be about 4,000. Most have been recruited as bodyguards, security consultants or security guards at salaries ranging up to $12,000 a month. Compared to the R4,500 to R10,000 they would earn in the SAPS, many of these soldiers of plunder have taken leave from the police to go work in Iraq. The Defence Ministry has estimated that 100 former and active duty soldiers from the SANDF have been lured to Iraq by such lucrative rewards. Defence Minister, Mosouia Lekota, said that all but one of these are white men. There has to be many thousands more than 100 SANDF soldiers in Iraq. A recent UN report said South Africa provided the third largest number of security personnel to Iraq. The report says South Africans are willing to work for less money than their British or US counterparts, which makes them cheaper fodder for international companies.[/b] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:29pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
AFRICA'S LARGEST AIRFORCE BASE 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 12:31pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
PICTURES OF THE WAR IN ANGOLA 1 Like
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