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Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by freecocoa(f): 12:38pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
How people can take their hard earned money to go and give someone to pray for them to earn more money, beats me. How can "God" who has all the money in the world, need money from me, before he can give me more money? What does he need my money for biko? 4 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by wordcat(m): 12:48pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
freecocoa: That dude thought that Nairaland is Nollywood. 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Hawlahscho(m): 12:50pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien: I Give up. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by incrediblestev: 12:56pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
michaelwestern:The same way I can put it back to you: "do how did God himself come into existence ". What you call existence is in a very simple term known as consciousness, you exist when you know, when you awaken to knowing not because you were created in made. Just as energy can not be created nor destroyed, beings exist in forms and different consciousness, it has nothing to do with any deity. There is no such thing as a sky daddy creating people and all that poo knowledge..... Else we will have to discuss about his own existence or being... He definitely can not exist alone in a space, he too must have a creator who also has a creator and it goes on like that... Just because human beings created an imaginary supernatural being to explain away the limitations of their own knowledge does not necessarily mean in actual sense, there is a sky daddy who exist nowhere. 3 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Onliie(m): 1:22pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
donbenie:Can you just brief me what his point was. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Ishilove: 1:30pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Lmao! Yeyenatu |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 1:32pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Good thing you have well thought questions...but how does Christianity answer any of these?? 5minsmadness: |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by logica(m): 1:34pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmishael1:LOL...called? Hearing voices? Better go to Yaba Left. I already booked your appointment. 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by 5minsmadness: 1:41pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
babyshaQ1:The topic is on atheists having faith i.e believing in something they can't prove. I was just trying to show him that he uses faith as well. This thread don go far oh! Am in the office, will address further when I get home. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by MightyMuna(m): 1:44pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
slogozer: We, mortal men, our love and mercy is supposedly nothing compared to that of God's. But please, tell me what YOUR OWN CHILD can do to you that warrants you to TORTURE HIN FOR ETERNITY. So because he denies you as his father or insults you or what did he do that you believe it is FAIR to torture him FOREVER? 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by 5minsmadness: 1:45pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Come op, why did you change the title of the thread? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 1:49pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Ishilove:So you are also atheist ! |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Idrismusty97(m): 1:51pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
hunter21:Wrong. You can't have bullshîts problems when you don't believed in bullshîts. Understand? 3 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Ishilove: 1:54pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:You must indeed be a newbie 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nicklaus(m): 1:57pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
donbenie:Just like you want me to buy the idea that donbenie is an all knowing Anti-christian. Of course I ll be surprise since we are originally traditional set before the existence of christianity and islam. So basically we lots are rooted from a set of traditional beliefs which leaves me convinced that a Nigerian can be any of those three religions. And also whoever isn't part of these religion came from an origin part of it. That means you lots chose the supposedly easiest and the most uncharitable part of culture to suit your pocket and selfish way of life. And to take you for a LIE that you are did you say it's less stressful to be religious Trust me nothing feels less stressful than claiming to be an atheist. Come on, if i m sick of doing charitable work and serving the one true God, being an atheist is the best medicine. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 2:00pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
MightyMuna:YAHWEH is not a monster, it is those that fail to understand that are, in fact we can't really blame them cos sometimes YAHWEH speaks in parables. There is nowhere in the Bible that states that hell is till eternity. Jesus warned that we should not fear those that can destroy the body but HE that candestroy body and soulin hell. A parable of Jesus about a man planting a vineyard and the enemy coming to sow weed among the good plants, which the man knowing this, suffered not to destroy the weeds lest the good ones be destroyed. The man waited until the vine was ripe for harvest anddestroyedthe weed in fire. Do you burn weeds forever? Another is the story of Noah's Ark, where God destroyed the people once, whose difference from the pending destruction is fire, are they still being destroyed today in water? They were killed once witheternaleffects: they died once and died forever, the same way it is impossible for weed burnt to rise again cos the effect of the Burning had eternal effect. To nail it on the head, in order to clarify doubt Jude 1:7 called the fire of Sodom eternal fire! Is Sodom burning today? Certainly not. They were burnt once with eternal effects. Though some may point to the Story of Lazarus and the rich man but I want us to know it was only for the purpose of admonition and not for the purpose of telling us what hell is about. The LORD shall destroy evil men and affliction shall not rise second time. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 2:04pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Idrismusty97:It's very hard for theists to think people don't believe in any "god/gods"....so anyone and everyone they meet they'd likely think he/she also operates on a belief system. Belief systems make life easy for a theist....do's and don'ts with a moral significance attached to it are all they think they need...And are all they were brought up to ever consider. If they were confronted with "jains" they'd still want to believe they(the jains) believe in a creator.... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism_and_non-creationism 3 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 2:09pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Nicklaus: I still engage in charity work....does that transform me to a theist?... And I doubt simplicity equates to atheism....arguably you're the one relaxed with a 7-day creation, bats being birds, global floods, witches, wizards, giants,etc All these are basic qualities of a fairy tale(this isn't an insult, you can check it for yourself) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_tale 3 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by jes7: 2:09pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
allanphash7: This is a very weak argument. you don't need to know who created the creator to believe there is a creator. for instance you don't need to know who created Bill Gate to accept microsoft was made by him. again, this question of who created the creator will only be necessary if we are talking about a created God; the Christian God is not a created God! 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 2:12pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
freecocoa:who are u |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 2:13pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
jes7:But we can see Bill gates can't we?...so by logical deduction,as the example shouldn't we also see "god" too? 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 2:22pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Ishilove:What actually is your FAITH based on? I mean, why do you regect God? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nicklaus(m): 2:26pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien:haha ! Talk is cheap on NL. I can as well say I m the 15th generation of king solomon if you could be doing charity works, afterall we owe each other no explanation and since an act of charity is now simplicity perhaps you can as well term atheism to be a type religion . And I see you are the cause of your misguided life. Reading from your fellow grand atheist and you want me to succumb to that Sorry to disappoint you buddy. The bible apart it's common sense to believe in a supernatural force behind the existence of all things. And if I m to delude myself into believing in God, that's exactly what I ll do. I would rather be a jew. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 2:27pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Nicklaus:what |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by louie3(m): 2:29pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Nipeks:ur head dey there..u jus took d words out of my mouth 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by MightyMuna(m): 2:30pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014: This is the epitome of beating around the bush and obfuscation. I'll not engage you any further. 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by jes7: 2:35pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien: There you go again. I am saying I don't need to know Bill Gates to accept Microsoft was created. The complexity and programming of the computer is enough for me as a rational being to believe it must have been intelligently put together by an intelligent mind. There are many people who have never heard of or know Bill Gates exists who will absolutely believe the computer was made by someone. Even if I can't see God or know him, it is simply rational to accept that a complex being like me is not a product of chance or a thoughtless process. 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 2:38pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
MightyMuna:Don't sound assertive, I've just given my opinion on the issue, its yours to counter me or give me the things you wish I had written on. Give me the obvious passages in the Bible that points to your view of things, then give me your time that I may educate you. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by allanphash7(m): 2:41pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Sowie nro was nill gate father visible or not? Just asking Ponder about it again jes7: |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by jes7: 2:42pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien: You sound funny and illogical. Are you saying anything you can't see does not exist? If God truly exist, does the fact that you can't see him make him non existent? 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by allanphash7(m): 2:42pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
How will u feel if i say Mohammed loves u? Just asking Religion is nothing but a scam Masterclass32: 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Chrisbenogor(m): 2:46pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
michaelwestern:Once again Atheism really has nothing to do with the big bang. It's simply a lack of belief in the existence of imaginary beings- Father Christmas, spaghetti monster, obalatata, God, Devil, Sango, ogun etc. It is not a position to proffer scientific explanation of how the earth came about. Now "shame the devil" and task your brain at least this time if you are not in the habit of doing so........ Or else JUST ASK GOOGLE. 3 Likes |
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