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Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:00pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
jes7:I'm following your logic here.....you implied that if we can't see who gave birth to Bill gates "does that mean he doesn't exist"... ofwhich I replied, we can see Bill gates, can we see "god"? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:05pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Nicklaus:Explain to me the bolded and where I ever implied such... And you've established that you're ready to resort to insults to deviate scrutiny of your mythology.. Can everyone here see a perfect example of a theist willing to do just about anything(including lying) just to spread the belief? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:11pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
I think everyone have seen that christians(atleast the gnostic ones) are willing to lie to defend their faith... 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:12pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
freecocoa:The church pays workers, they do charitable works, go for seminars, they pay the church bills and get security and generator when there is no electricity. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:13pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien:Direct your POWERFUL questions at me. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:14pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Did the doctrine ever permit paying workers?...Did "jesus" tell his alleged disciples to "follow me and I'll pay you"? 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:17pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Powerful? No,just basic questions....but since you think you're up to the task...I'll ask one. How do you know "god" is good and "satan" is bad?(note that "know" is bolded, meaning tell us how such knowledge was derived and is it demonstrable?) 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by AdamuUcheOla: 3:24pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
funmo: Read up on the criticism of Pascal's wager :http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager#Criticism 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:24pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien:And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Luke 10:7 |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:26pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
AdamuUcheOla:You are right, but that doesn't remove the fact he's got good points. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:27pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:A labourer is basically a wage paid individual.....tell me where church workers are required to be paid. 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:28pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien:For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: The knowledge of Good and evil is in us. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:29pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Those aren't good points....I'll bring up my past rebuttals(links) to the wager soon... davien: https://www.nairaland.com/1930863/letter-atheists-pics#26819243 3 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:31pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Are you sure this is your answer?...because you've just defeated a core principle in your faith... |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:33pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien:It seems you've never opened up a Bible. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:35pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Skip the ad hominem...since you've said people have the knowledge of good and evil....then aren't you implying morality is subjective? Plus that verse expressed food(i.e eating and drinking)as to accept the food you're given as wage for your hire....I guess food is equal to real money to you....can you see that you've just had to clip that part out to make it fit with the discussion? 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:37pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien:You asked me if there is difference between Good and Bad, i.e how we know God is good and Satan is evil, then I said its made known by our conscience, even the effects of such actions on us whether it inflicts pain or happiness. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by freecocoa(f): 3:37pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Why should I be the one paying for it? Can't they just get the money directly from God since they are using it for his work? 3 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:39pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014: How does this answer the question 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:40pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
freecocoa:You must be a very intelligent lady, where have women like you been hiding all this while? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Misogynist2014(m): 3:42pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
johnydon22:continue reading the argument, you'll get to understand. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by freecocoa(f): 3:47pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Very poor attempt at sarcasm. Just answer the damned question. 5 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by davien(m): 3:49pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:Belittling a woman is a low blow...And really pathetic 5 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:51pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Misogynist2014: here is his question davien: He asked how you know "god" is good and "satan" is bad and how you derived it and how demonstrable it is, not the difference between good and bad... I think you need to try answering that question again.. e.g ask me how do i know osama is bad and bill gates is good ; i will simple say cus osama hurts people and kill them while bill gates is active in charitable works... their deeds.. dont know where you got this idea of conscience to know god and satan which is good or bad.. 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:52pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien: Thats one of the religious ideologies that are ridiculous in this century that man is superior to woman... but we know both are equal.. 3 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 4:04pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Tallesty1: Yes everybody has faith in one thing or the other , what makes atheist different is lack of religious faith that you folks have. 2 Likes |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by aadoiza: 4:05pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Except it's oxymoron, your word usage is questionable. |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 4:06pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
GodMode: So is religion and science related ? 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 4:06pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
chinnyonwu: They need not believe in him bro, whether they do or not is irrelevant. 1 Like |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 4:08pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
davien: Thanks but i dont want to understand evolution |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 4:08pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
So what's the general consensus? |
Re: I Dont Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Nobody: 4:09pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
joseph1832: Lucifer and his son ( lucifuge rofocale ) aren't in hell yet , it is a future occurrence as told by the bible. |
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