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Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by frankmoney(m): 9:31am On Mar 19, 2015 |
I have always wanted to ask this question , where was Africa when Europe and the rest where developing ? how come we don't have great early inventors or physicist such as Einstein and iseac newton ?what were we doing around the early 1900's or 1800's ? contributions are needed 16 Likes |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by xpac01(m): 9:44am On Mar 19, 2015 |
We had the best brains in Africa. The Europe only played smartness on African. Read the book " How Europe underdeveloped Africa" it has the answer to your question. Though African brethren aint still helping themselves. 53 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by frankmoney(m): 9:49am On Mar 19, 2015 |
xpac01:thanks for your contributions. , how come the whole Africa fell under d spell of the Europeans ..if we had the best brain at least they would av contributed greatly during the early breakthroughs in science ....and proposed theories and laws e.t.c ..... 43 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by psucc(m): 9:53am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Don't misrepresent facts. Africa developed spiritually and oyingbo developed physically. How many Whitman can fly from Naija to America and back the same night? Development na development. 161 Likes 20 Shares |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by jamex93(m): 9:56am On Mar 19, 2015 |
this is a serious question.... I wonder too 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by nedu2000(m): 9:59am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Biblically,some say Ham,son of Noah who was cursed to always be beneath his brothers Shem and Japhet is the father of the negro race. 6 Likes |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by frankmoney(m): 10:08am On Mar 19, 2015 |
nedu2000:are u serious ? |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Tolexander: 10:18am On Mar 19, 2015 |
nedu2000:bro, don't let us publicize hypocrisy. While thinking on the question, i realised the industrial age started in Europe not very long after the europeans expanded and widened their horizons by venturing out of the eurasia continental plate to the New World(America) to surjourn. That was where they got many things as raw materials through dominance and cheap labours. There, can't be developement if a man persists in not moving out of his location. 12 Likes |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by seankafor(m): 11:07am On Mar 19, 2015 |
what africa is perfect is what we call black magic aka juju. Thats their own science |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by frankmoney(m): 11:10am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Tolexander:so how come Africans didn't explore other continents too ? there was no major industrial revolution in africa 5 Likes |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Tolexander: 11:52am On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmoney:they weren't really interested in the world outside africa and they'd not really got what it takes to push them from the world. The Europeans were subjected to the push-pull effect away from their world to other continents: [center]PUSH EFFECT[/center] DISEASES: diseases like bubonic plague did a little effect in pushing the europeans away though negligible. Religious crisis most especially beginning from the 16th century of Tudor's house [starting with king Henry viii] in England and the persecution of the reformers, protestants, separatists and purists. [center]PULL EFFECT[/center] Holy land: as a result of the papal call to reclaim the holy land called crusade. Trade: though, initially with the Asian to get golds, pearls and spices until the ottoman empire got the mediterranean. The quest to bye pass the ottoman lead to the accidental discovery of American continent through westward voyage to asia. I could go on but lazy to type and gat to go outta here bro. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by MisterG: 9:44pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Here here you go. you guys should had studied this in school. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4pJTaiev8k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPHff1OKRlY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfMWpL4hw2g 7 Likes |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by bigfrancis21: 9:49pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmoney: Oh ye black man. Brainwashed into believing he is inferior. Echoing racial subjugation cliches purposefully orchestrated to mentally subjugate him as inferior. Listen, Civilization started from Africa. The earliest human civilization started in Egypt at about 3000BC when the ancient black egyptians gathered together to form a civilization, out of which came the egyptian pyramids (an architectural wonder of sort with to such a wonderful precision which still dazzles modern science of today), mathematics, philosophy, astrology, philosophy etc. Egypt was at its might during ancient times and can be likened to the position of America in the world today. Nationals from Rome, Greece, Persia, paid visits to Egypt to learn from her civilization. The earliest 'white' civilization is traced to the Romans and Greeks who were to surface in world history in 800BC i.e. about 2200 years after the Egyptian civilization. The Romans and Greeks learned from Egyptian temple priests and took their knowledge with them back to Rome and Greece where they wrote their books and equally admitted in their books that they learned from the egyptian priests first hand. Ancient Egyptians were already practising mathematics (the pythagoras theorem with which they used to build the pyramids. The pythagoras theory in mathematics which is wrongly attributed to Pythagoras actually came from the Egyptians for they knew that the longest side of a right angled triangle can be taken from the square root of the sum of the squares of the lengths of the other 2 sides. They had formulas for finding the area of shapes etc). 2000 years later, Egypt was invaded by the romans, their temples destroyed and their books and knowledge carted away. Egypt fell under Roman occupation and became a colony of Rome from about 300BC to 4AD/5AD when the Roman empire fell and Europe was plunged into intellectual darkness. Thus the Romans lost the knowledge which they had learned from the Egyptians, marking the beginning of the dark ages (also known as the middle ages - a period characterized by stuntness in growth of useful world learning and advancement) until year 711 when the black moors of North Africa who were Muslims invaded Spain through the Strait of Gibraltar and conquered Spain, Portugal and the Southern Part of France, establishing the Islam religion in Iberia (Portugal, Spain, France). The moors took knowledge with them to Europe and brought again learning and civilization to Europe. The Spanish occupation by the Moors began in 711 AD when an African army, under their leader Tariq ibn-Ziyad, crossed the Strait of Gibraltar from northern Africa and invaded the Iberian peninsula ‘Andalus' (Spain under the Visigoths). 2. A European scholar sympathetic to the Spaniards remembered the conquest in this way: a. [T]he reins of their (Moors) horses were as fire, their faces black as pitch, their eyes shone like burning candles, their horses were swift as leopards and the riders fiercer than a wolf in a sheepfold at night . . . The noble Goths [the German rulers of Spain to whom Roderick belonged] were broken in an hour, quicker than tongue can tell. Oh luckless Spain! [i] [i] Quoted in Edward Scobie, The Moors and Portugal's Global Expansion, in Golden Age of the Moor, ed Ivan Van Sertima, US, Transaction Publishers, 1992, p.336 3. The Moors, who ruled Spain for 800 years, introduced new scientific techniques to Europe, such as an astrolabe, a device for measuring the position of the stars and planets. Scientific progress in Astronomy, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics, Geography and Philosophy flourished in Moorish Spain 4. Basil Davidson, one of the most noted historians recognized and declared that there were no lands at that time (the eighth century) "more admired by its neighbours, or more comfortable to live in, than a rich African civilization which took shape in Spain" 5. At its height, Córdova, the heart of Moorish territory in Spain, was the most modern city in Europe. The streets were well-paved, with raised sidewalks for pedestrians. During the night, ten miles of streets were well illuminated by lamps. (This was hundreds of years before there was a paved street in Paris or a street lamp in London.) Cordova had 900 public baths - we are told that a poor Moor would go without bread rather than soap! 6. The Great Mosque of Córdoba (La Mezquita) is still one of the architectural wonders of the world in spite of later Spanish disfigurements. Its low scarlet and gold roof, supported by 1,000 columns of marble, jasper and and porphyry, was lit by thousands of brass and silver lamps which burned perfumed oil. 7. Education was universal in Moorish Spain, available to all, while in Christian Europe ninety-nine percent of the population were illiterate, and even kings could neither read nor write. At that time, Europe had only two universities, the Moors had seventeen great universities! These were located in Almeria, Cordova, Granada, Juen, Malaga, Seville, and Toledo. 8. In the tenth and eleventh centuries, public libraries in Europe were non-existent, while Moorish Spain could boast of more than seventy, of which the one in Cordova housed six hundred thousand manuscripts. 9. Over 4,000 Arabic words and Arabic-derived phrases have been absorbed into the Spanish language. Words beginning with "al," for example, are derived from Arabic. Arabic words such as algebra, alcohol, chemistry, nadir, alkaline, and cipher entered the language. Even words such as checkmate, influenza, typhoon, orange, and cable can be traced back to Arabic origins. 10. The most significant Moorish musician was known as Ziryab (the Blackbird) who arrived in Spain in 822. The Moors introduced earliest versions of several instruments, including the Lute or el oud, the guitar or kithara and the Lyre. Ziryab changed the style of eating by breaking meals into separate courses beginning with soup and ending with desserts. 11. The #Moors introduced paper to Europe and Arabic numerals, which replaced the clumsy Roman system. 12. The Moors introduced many new crops including the orange, lemon, peach, apricot, fig, sugar cane, dates, ginger and pomegranate as well as saffron, sugar cane, cotton, silk and rice which remain some of Spain's main products today. 13. The Moorish rulers lived in sumptuous palaces, while the monarchs of Germany, France, and England dwelt in big barns, with no windows and no chimneys, and with only a hole in the roof for the exit of smoke. One such Moorish palace ‘Alhambra' (literally "the red one" in Granada is one of Spain's architectural masterpieces. Alhambra was the seat of Muslim rulers from the 13th century to the end of the 15th century. The Alhambra is a UNESCO World Heritage Site 14. It was through Africa that the new knowledge of China, India, and Arabia reached Europe The #Moors brought the Compass from China into Europe. 15. The Moors ruled and occupied Lisbon (named "Lashbuna" by the Moors) and the rest of the country until well into the twelfth century. They were finally defeated and driven out by the forces of King Alfonso Henriques. The scene of this battle was the Castelo de Sao Jorge or the 'Castle of St. George.' Moorish Chief Spain (Europe) and Morocco (Africa) are so close together that you can see both countries from each side of each continent: [img] http://i.imgur.com/9NTwF.jpg?1[/img] You could literally cross over from Morocco into Spain by speed boat in less than 10 minutes. The Moors brought enormous learning to Spain that over centuries would percolate through the rest of Europe. The intellectual achievements of the Moors in Spain had a lasting effect; education was universal in Moorish Spain, while in Christian Europe, 99 percent of the population was illiterate, and even kings could neither read nor write. At a time when Europe had only two universities, the Moors had seventeen, located in Almeria, Cordova, Granada, Juen, Malaga, Seville, and Toledo. In the 10th and 11th centuries, public libraries in Europe were non-existent, while Moorish Spain could boast of more than 70, including one in Cordova that housed hundreds of thousands of manuscripts. Universities in Paris and Oxford were established after visits by scholars to Moorish Spain. It was this system of education, taken to Europe by the Moors, that seeded the European Renaissance and brought the continent out of the 1,000 years of intellectual and physical gloom of the Middle Ages. After the end of the Moorish period in Iberia (Europe) came the Renaissance period, marked by the revival of interest and learning in arts and science. Europe grew and expanded ever since. The Moors ruled for over 800 years in Europe until 1492 when they were finally expelled from Spain by Isabella back to Morocco. By 1800 America (the new world) was coming into world power. The expellation of the moors (blacks) was a great victory for the whites in the history of whites. The period of Moorish presence in Spain began the signification of 'black' as evil (the domination of islam over christianity in spain and consequently 'black', being the colour of the moors, being synonymous with the islam religion), thus giving birth to the earliest racial sentiments against the black people. It is said that before the Moors left they handed over a map of how to get to the Americas. 8 months later in 1492 using the map handed over to him, Columbus set out for his voyage to America (the new world) where he met the Red Indians. Transatlantic slavery of black africans was soon to start immediately, in early 1500s and reaching its peak between 1600 and 1700s and ending in the 1800s. The dominion of the blacks in spain was something europe was never to have again. Thus began the subjugation of the black african people as 'lower' beings, blotting of the african history and rewriting of history, attribution of earliest human inventions to people of caucasian origin (philosophy attributed to aristotle who mentioned that he learned from the egyptians, pythagoras theorem which the ancient egyptians used in building the pyramids attributed pythagoras a greek man etc), the attempts to 'white-wash' ancient egypt and claim its civilization to be 'white' civilization or non-african or 'aryan' despite overwhelming evidence seen from the mummies of dead pharoahs, egyptian depictions of themselves as a black people, egyptian reference to themselves as 'kemet' (black, khawm, ham), DNA and skin test evidence performed on some of these mummies that revealed sub-saharan ancestry and high melanin pigmentation (blacks have high melanin content in their skin, whites lack melanin. Melanin is responsible for the colouration of the human body) etc that prove the ancient egyptians were a black people. One of the earliest universities in the world is the University of Timbuktu in Mali but you will never hear of this part of history. It has been totally ignored and sidelined and European universities glorified instead. The Renaissance period of Europe saw the representation of several African figures as whites. In Christianity, Jesus Christ and His Mother, Mary, who were black were represented as white people. The Pope in Rome, obviously knowing the truth, prays in front of a black mother mary and baby jesus. Beethoven who was described as a 'blackamor' is said to have been represented as 'white'. The 18th century saw the rise and spread of white superiority and black inferiority theories all over Europe and America. Several tactics have been used to ingrain mentally into the black people of some 'inferiority' complex, which unfortunately till today, majority of blacks are still suffering from it. They have been told several times without number that they are 'inferior' and incapable of performing great things that they have come to believe it as true. Infact, some blacks would not even want to attempt greatness or invention because they believe their brains are incapable of doing such. Till today, blacks are still suffering from this mentality and there has been several calls for blacks to emancipate themselves from mental slavery. You are no longer physically bound by chains but mentally you still think you are. However, some blacks are beginning to awaken to their original self. With knowledge, self-realization is restored, and there comes with it power of the mind and self. http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/10/07/when-black-men-ruled-the-world-moors/ 106 Likes 28 Shares |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Fulaman198(m): 10:04pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
MisterG: Most Southern Nigerians know nothing about Timbuktu. The only reason why many Northerners do is because about 3 ethnic groups living in Nigeria today also lived in Mali prior to now (the Zarma (also known as the Songhai), the Fulani (Fulbe), and the Tuaregs (also known as the Kel-Tamasheq)). 15 Likes |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by bigfrancis21: 10:10pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Some Paintings about the Moors of Spain: [img]http://thevelvetrocket.files./2011/12/frederick-arthur-bridgman-an-interesting-game.jpg[/img] 12 Likes |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Fulaman198(m): 10:11pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Nice pictures BigFrancis21, you are a scholar and a gentleman at the same time. 17 Likes |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by bigfrancis21: 10:13pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
It is high time that African countries developed and incorporated true african history and studies into their universities and educational system, which would pave way for true African Renaissance and rise to its former position in the world's affairs. 19 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by bigfrancis21: 10:43pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Ishilove, I see you peeping at us. |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Ishilove: 10:47pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
bigfrancis21: |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Bonapart(m): 10:49pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Op Go back to skul.... Nigeria is senior to Brazil if you must know 1 Like |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by musicwriter(m): 10:49pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
frankmoney: Life began in Africa, as well as civilization and development. Therefore, once upon a time in human history Africa was the most advanced continent. When the Dutch first arrived Benin kingdom in Nigeria they were so scared about the rate of development they saw over here, so much that their exploration leader had to report back to Europe that ''The town seem to be very great. When you enter into it you go into a great broad street, well paved, which seems to be seven or eight times broader than the Warmoes street in Amsterdam. The king’s palace is a collection of buildings which occupy as much space as the town of Harlem, and which is enclosed with walls. There are numerous apartments for the Prince’s ministers and fine galleries, most of which are as big as those on the exchange at Amsterdam. They are supported by wooden pillars encased with copper, where their victories are depicted, and which are carefully kept very clean. The town is composed of thirty main streets, very straight and 120 feet wide, apart from an infinity of small intersecting streets. The houses are close to one another, arranged in good order. These people are in no way inferior to the Dutch. They wash and scrub their houses so well that they are polished and shinning like glass''. And this scenario wasn't peculiar to Benin Kingdom. The Ashanti king in ancient Ghana kingdom was so rich that his official seat was made of REAL gold. Africa was extremely very prosperous before Europe made contact with us. But everything changed once Europe made contact with us around 1400AD. We became conquered and were no longer in charge of our destiny. Instead of developing our lands, African natural and human resources were being used to develop Europe. Therefore, we lost steam and were thrown into total darkness as a people for over 400 years!. But, within this 400 years Europe entered the age of technology and industrial revolution, all made possible by exploitation of Africa. Trains were built, cars built, advance in physics, chemistry, biology, e.t.c happened within this period, but sadly Africa was never a part of this technological revolution. Just imagine where a people could not make a single development for 400 years!. Still, when they were not done with slavery, they returned as colonialists. Again, they defeated us militarily and our lands were under occupation. They then went ahead to destroy culture, traditions, language, religion. Everything that made us African was changed because we were a conquered people. I wrote a song about this titled ''Hey West''. It's available on iTunes at https://itunes.apple.com/ng/album/kwame-nkrumah-is-the-way-ep/id971664425 Artiste name: Africason (independent recording artiste). Please help a brother by getting a copy on iTunes. NB: Every African should go and read the book by Walter Rodney called ''How Europe Underdeveloped Africa''. 20 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by wasokay: 10:49pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
heaven |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by ginawest(f): 10:50pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
psucc:lwkm..u jes made my night |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by blessedvisky(m): 10:50pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
look, that's in the past. what matters right now is preparing Africa for the future. we can't sit back and be left behind once more. FORWARD AFRICA,!!! meanwhile, my people, the presidential elections are so close!!! many already know who they'll vote for, so pls let's share who our candidates are CLICK LIKE FOR GMB AND SHARE FOR GEJ 1 Like |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Bsc(m): 10:50pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
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Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Nobody: 10:50pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
We were busy selling our brains and hefty men into slavery to built the then expensive mud houses, to purchase schnapps and marry the then beautiful girls, to purchase horses, domestic servants... Up till date, the process is still on! A friend told me ts our culture. Even if the whites/europeans decide to sleep for 100yrs (which is not possible) we'll never overtake them. Africa and Africans do not care about the future but are interested in present gain. xpac01:by walter rodney. Europe never underdeveloped Africa, Africans underdeveloped African! Ts only in Africa that some1 will steal billions and you'll still see some blockbrained fellas shouting "Till 2019" and some other unimaginable things. Did europe cause those? 43 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Cchuks27(m): 10:51pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
In the bush |
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by DeeCherry(f): 10:51pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Ahan! where else would they have been? on the map na! 1 Like |
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