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What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 9:49am On Mar 20, 2015 |
In its broadest sense, Christianity is a religion based upon the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, who lived in Palestine during the first century. However, if Christianity is lived as merely a set of teachings and rules to be followed, it misses the main points that Jesus taught. First and foremost, Christianity is anchored in love, God's love for us and our response to that love. WHY RELIGION? Many skeptics think that religion is a waste of time or worse. I tend to agree. I am a Christian, but I don't consider myself a particularly religious person. Christianity is much more than just religion.Someone may be thinking “I thought God invented religion!” Sorry, but God invented Man and Man invented religion. God created Man for the express purpose of mutual relationship with him, but gave Man the power of choice and free will. Man chose to break that relationship and has been trying to find his own way by inventing religions and cults of all kinds in an effort to replace that void left by lack of relationship with his Creator. But relationship with God cannot be found through religion. In fact, religion is the biggest roadblock to seeking a relationship with God. Religion is simply Man trying to reach out to God by doing something that he thinks will please God. “If I can do enough, say enough, pray enough, give enough, sacrifice enough perhaps God will show me favor”. Every religion is based upon this “WORKS theology”. Neither ceremony, liturgy, creeds, sacraments nor money have ever brought one soul into a reconciled relationship to God. TEACHING OF JESUS. Although Jesus did not teach anything radically different from that of the Old Testament, He simplified the main points so that people could not escape into a pure exercise of religious ceremonies. The Old Testament describes many laws (both moral and ceremonial) that were to be followed by the people of God. With so many laws, people tended to become SELECTIVE, preferring to follow the easier ceremonial laws over the more difficult moral laws (Matthew 23:23). The religious ruling class was especially susceptible to selective obedience of the law, resulting in moral hypocrisy. Jesus explained that the moral commandments were not to be followed merely to the letter of the law, but also to the intent of the law. So, it was not enough to abstain from adultery, but God required that one not even look on a woman with lust (Matthew 5:27-28). Likewise, it is not enough to abstain from murder, but God requires that nobody hate another without cause, with calling another person "a fool" making one guilty enough to suffer the judgment of Hell (Matthew 5:21-22). So God's laws require not only perfect performance, but also perfect attitude and motive. Jesus said the entire law of God could be summarized into a mere two commands: Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." (Matthew 22:37-40) Isaiah 1:13-14 states, “Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and Sabbaths, the calling of assemblies… it is iniquity…Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.” David prays to God in Psalm 40:6, “Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire;…Burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.” Amos 5:21 says, “I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell (the odors of their sacrifices) in your solemn assemblies.” Micah 6:6-8 includes; “Wherewith shall I come before the Lord and bow myself before the high God? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? Will the lord be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.” And there it is: “Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.” James 4:10. You see, the Israelites (Jews) of the Old Testament had forgotten the relationship with God and became dependent upon the religious system of works and sacrifice and offerings expecting spiritual redemption or to appease God. But in these passages we see God Himself saying, “I don’t care how you shake and dance, I’m not interested in your religious activities, I want your heart.” In fact that is exactly what He expresses here in Isaiah 29:13, “ Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart far from me …”(Jesus quoted this passage in Matt. 15:8-9 adding “…in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men .”) Imagine a pyramid which represents religion. The base is guilt, upon which is laid fear. Religion uses guilt and fear to incite works to appease which when applied results in pride. SO, FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES THAT DEFINED THE CHRISTIANS EXPERIENCE IS LOVE; love of God and love of our fellow human beings. So, a person who merely loves his fellow man is only fulfilling half of the law, and is neglecting what Jesus said was the most important part loving God. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 10:01am On Mar 20, 2015 |
But the cults such as Islam easily fall precisely under the premise of “God hates Religion”; after all, I observe no one more committed to their religion than an Islamic Fundamentalist. Although the Muslim serves a different god (Allah is not the God of the Bible), he too is seeking to appease his god by doing. That is “works based theology” no matter how you slice it. 4 Likes |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by davien(m): 10:07am On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212:You know, "cult" I'd what the big religions call the little ones...Christianity was also a cult in rune when mithraism was the order of the day. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 10:23am On Mar 20, 2015 |
And now malvisguy suddenly know the thought of god towards religion (he hates religion) ever wonder how this malvisguy's god stance against religion is in coincide with malvisguy's recent views on religion. lol god's view on religion suddenly changed because malvisguy's view on religion changed.. ![]() [size=20] I greatly distrust those who know so well what god wants cus i noticed it was always in coincide with their own opinion[/size] meanwhile :Good start ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by davien(m): 10:28am On Mar 20, 2015 |
johnydon22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j8ZMMuu7MU 1 Like |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 10:46am On Mar 20, 2015 |
davien:truer words have never been spoken. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 10:51am On Mar 20, 2015 |
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Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 12:13pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:there are conclusive evidence in the quran that indicate Allah and muhammed are ONE.let me give you an example; Quran link the pleasure of Allah and muhammed; Quran9:62 They swear to you by Allah in order to please you, while Allah AND his Apostle are most entitled that they should seek HIS pleasure (yurduhu). The word yurduhu is singular and yet, as the context makes it clear, it is used in relation to a dual subject, namely Allah and Muhammad his apostle. In other words, if this is not simply yet another grammatical error, then the singular is presumably being employed in order to group Muhammad and his deity together in their pleasure, in what pleases them.it is either muhammed and Allah is the same person OR this is grammatical error. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 12:23pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Surah At-Taubah, Verse 61: And among them are men who hurt the Prophet (Muhammad SAW) and say: "He is (lending his) ear (to every news)." Say: "He listens to what is best for you; he believes in Allah; has faith in the believers; and is a mercy to those of you who believe." But those who hurt Allah's Messenger (Muhammad SAW) will have a painful torment. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 12:28pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
davien:I will not go into argument with you, mithraism has no similarity with Christianity, they say mithra was born 25 of December but unfortunately there is no verse in the bible that say Jesus was born December 25. the Dec 25 issue is of no relevance to us--nowhere does the NT associate this date with Jesus' birth at all." This is something the later church did, wherever they got the idea from -- not the apostolic church, and if there was any borrowing at all, everyone did it, for Dec. 25th was "universally distinguished by sacred festivities" Reading the bible with a teachable spirit,you will understand that Christianity is a relationship with God. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 12:42pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:does this sound right to you? " Who hurt muhammed will have a painful torment" is muhammed Allah? Yes, no wounder surah 4:80 say" Whoever obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah.”. They are both ONE person |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by davien(m): 12:48pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212:Funny enough I didn't say Christianity is similar to mithraism.....yet you've spent a whole lot of time trying to say it isn't... What I merely said was that mithraists also referred to christianity as a cult.... |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 12:49pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
johnydon22:The fool says there is no God. But, he is not foolish because he is an atheist, but because he thinks he can get away with bad moral behavior. 1 Like |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 12:52pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
davien:no one will agree with the children of God because of freewill and choice,but I will advice you to read and study the bible then provide a verse that encourage religion in the bible, let us study it. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 12:54pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: The above only shows that you have a very low iota of sense, you don't think at all. Is Judas going to heaven? why? Those that murdered those prophets in OT, are they going to heaven too? So in your myopic reasoning, whoever obeys what moses and other prophets disobey yahweh? Do you obey your pastors? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 12:56pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: What exactly is your definition of religion? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 12:56pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: judging from your words now i think its evident enough whose morals are bad... If you are to be the judge will you say me or you? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by davien(m): 1:01pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212:Have you read the Aramaic bible? regardless of that, religion doesn't have to be mentioned in the bible for Christianity to be a religion.... |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 1:08pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
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Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 1:10pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:religion is the belief of a creator or superhuman called God or gods. That is what human defined religion,(read the first sentence in the op) you can't have a personal relationship with God through religion. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 1:13pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
davien:is the aramaic bible different from the English translations? What your points? Do you agree that Christianity is Not a religion? If yes ,God bless you but if your answer is no , proved me wrong. I am busy now. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 1:17pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
johnydon22:do you think no one will hold you accountable for the sins you commit? You don't believe in God soo God will not judge you? This is what psalms 14:1 called foolish. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 1:22pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: If RELIGION is the believe of superhuman called GOD according to you, are you saying xtianity doesn't believe in GOD since religionists believe in GOD. You can't as well claim that xtianity is not a RELIGION That is what human defined religion, So whats your own definition? or are you not human being ![]() (read the first sentence in the op) you can't have a personal relationship with God through religion. There is no going forward until you define what religion means to you. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 1:28pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: The OP said xtianity is a religion, perhaps you didn't undrrstand what you copy and paste, innit? I am busy now. okay. Have you gotten your PVC? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 1:29pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Is calling someone "fool" a good moral to emulate from the bible? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by johnydon22(m): 1:33pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212:lol now check this out, and you think those nomadic jewish goat herders that wrote the bible is moraly justified to call anybody fool because dont share their views?... Bro Be good for goodness sake.. be good to others because it is good to be good. the same bible filled with what can be termed as moral epilepsy, riddled with barbarism, blood, evil, war, rape, slavery, infacticide is your yard stick for morality? What a human being you are ![]() ![]()
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Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 2:05pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:From the time we are born we learn that the family relationship provides security and safety and unconditional love. (That is why we call God the “Father”). And that is why Jesus is called the "bridgroom and the church is called the "bride" religion cannot gives you this.what is the purpose of God creating you? Is it not to worship him and love your fellow human? What the need of religion?religion is like a man putting effort to pleased God ; “If I can do enough, say enough, pray enough, give enough, sacrifice enough perhaps God will show me favor”. Every religion is based upon this “works theology” You ask me to defined religion which I did, but your still asking me the same question again, go and search google for the answer if you don't satisfied with mine. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 2:19pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon:let Me put it this way; the bible does not called him fool because he is an atheist, he called his behaviour foolish,he think "if I don't believe in God ,God will not judge me" The second half of verse 14:1 says "They are corrupt, their deeds are vile." At first, you might think that the "they" are those who disbelieve in the existence of God. However, the end of verse 14:1 says "there is no one who does good." One might still think that the verse is referring to atheists. However, Psalm 14:2-3 make it clear that as God looks down on all people, He can find none who are not corrupt, emphasizing it with "not even one." The passage makes it clear that God can find nobody who does good or even tries to understand God's ways. From God's perspective, not one person attains His standard of moral behavior. The evidence is here,on nairaland,base on the atheists posts I have read here , don't think they are good.I may be wrong or right though. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by malvisguy212: 2:22pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Rilwon. When you say PVC you mean voters card? To be honest, I do not even register. Thank you. |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 2:54pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Was Adam created for your 2reasons above? What the need of religion? religion is like a man putting effort to pleased God You've just contradicted yourself, you claim that God created us to worship him and to love our neighbours, now to WORSHIPPING God requires an effort to PLEASE HIM, do you want to disagree with this? “If I can do enough, say enough, pray Xtianity is not exempted. You ask me to defined religion which I did, And I said If RELIGION is the believe of superhuman called GOD according to you, are you saying xtianity doesn't believe in GOD since religionists believe in GOD? but your still asking me the same question again, go and search google for the answer if you don't satisfied with mine. I don't need to ask google, google wasn't the one that create the OP, was it? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 3:15pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: So, God sees all of us as fools according to the bolded? But in the chapter 4 of that verse, we are told that God dwell in the midst of the righteous, who are these righteous if all of us are fools? Lets not forget that JESUS call the phrisees fool for thinking that the gold is greater than the temple of God. Mattew 23:17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? The evidence is here,on nairaland,base on the atheists posts I have read here , don't think they are good.I may be wrong or right though. Are christians good? |
Re: What Christianity Teaches! God Hate Religion. by Rilwon: 3:16pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Well, GMB will win ![]() |
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