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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 1:14pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:


This monkey don finish. Nothing to debate or counter anymore. Never was. Baboons don tire die.


Na calmness on NE theater give sojaman time to dey do all this play-play o!

grin grin grin grin


Monkeys dead. Long live the baboons.

grin grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:16pm On Mar 20, 2015
stillchris:


My self-portrait.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:23pm On Mar 20, 2015
The beasts are no more. Long live the baboons. cheesy
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:32pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:


The link shows clearly that personnelle left the SANDF and SAPS to be mercenaries.

There can be no better proof of the FACT that mercenaries do not only come from the SADF.

This is it and it has been confirmed. Only an id1ot cannot see what the below says.

http://ccs.ukzn.ac.za/files/mercenaries%20in%20Iraq.pdf

So there goes your old-age argument.

Before I forget.


http://sadf.info/Battle%20of%20the%20Lomba.html

Wow ! You just proved my point to be correct !

No single 17 years old SADF troops were sent to battle in Angola because they are legally UNDER-AGED !

That guy in your post was recruited at home in South Africa aged 17, kept at home till legal adult age 18 years in 1987 before he was sent to war zone in Angola.

@Patches and co were lying to us here like if a thousand of 17 year old boys were fighting for SADF in Angola cheesy

So, you have ONLY ONE SINGLE 18 YEAR OLD out of 4,000 SADF men in Angola cheesy

Not more than that one lone soldier right? Yes, the rest were grand papas....see their photo below.

Then that lone boy David Mannal is now 46 years old, is the white boy still in SANDF today, is he dead or alive, was he killed later in Angola war, or is he confirmed to be a mercenary in Nigeria today as we speak?

Last time I checked, this same David Mannal is now writing and selling books online, he is NO mercenary anywhere o ! cheesy

Citation needed, show us proof he is now in North East Nigeria Boko Haram war zone....that is your take away home work for this weekend cheesy

YOU HAVE NOT PROVED IT !!!
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:36pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:


Wow ! You just proved my point to be correct !

No single 17 years old SADF troops were sent to battle in Angola because they are legally UNDER-AGED !

That guy in your post was recruited at home in South Africa aged 17, kept at home till legal adult age 18 years in 1987 before he was sent to war zone in Angola.

@Patches and co were lying to us here like if a thousand of 17 year old boys were fighting for SADF in Angola cheesy

So, you have ONLY ONE SINGLE 18 YEAR OLD out of 4,000 SADF men in Angola cheesy

Not more than that one lone soldier right? Yes, the rest were grand papas....see their photo below.

Then that lone boy is now 46 years old, is the white boy still in SANDF today, is he dead or alive, was he killed later in Angola war, or is he confirmed to be a mercenary in Nigeria today as we speak?

Citation needed, show us proof he is now in North East Nigeria Boko Haram war zone....that is your take away home work for this weekend cheesy

YOU HAVE NOT PROVED IT !
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I did no such thing. It's been proved already that conscription started at age 17. Also the link I provided is of the story of a man who went to Angola.

Also, apartheid was a crime against humanity. South Africa was banned by the UN for that.

You think the "legally under-age" argument would apply? I think not.

Please think, why don't you?

Would you be happier if we said 18-year-olds went to Angola, then? Whoopsie-doo 18 and not 17 makes Auguby happy?

Proof has already been furnished - not my problem if you choose to ignore it. And pictures from you don't prove anything.

He is no mercenary but the ONLY point is that kids did go to Angola. And you have accepted that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:41pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:


I did no such thing. It's been proved already that conscription started at age 17. Also the link I provided is of the story of a man who went to Angola.

Also, apartheid was a crime against humanity. South Africa was banned by the UN for that.

You think the "legally under-age" argument would apply? I think not.

Please think, why don't you?

Would you be happier if we said 18 year old went to Angola, then? Whoopsie-doo 18 and not 17 makes Augury happy?

Proof has already been furnished - not my problem if you choose to ignore it. And pictures from you don't prove anything.


Last time I checked, this same David Mannal is now writing and selling books online, he is NO mercenary anywhere o !

Citation needed, show us proof he is now in North East Nigeria Boko Haram war zone....that is your take away home work for this weekend.

You guys were selling news to us that your 17 year old SADF soldiers are now fighting Boko Haram in Maiduguri (No war in Maiduguri anyway)

YOU HAVE PROVED NOTHING but a 1987 SADF soldier now turned book seller 2014 cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:45pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:



Last time I checked, this same David Mannal is now writing and selling books online, he is NO mercenary anywhere o !

How does that change the proven fact that kids went to Angola?

agaugust:


Citation needed, show us proof he is now in North East Nigeria Boko Haram war zone....that is your take away home work for this weekend.

How does his not being in Nigeria change the proven fact that kids went to Angola?


agaugust:

You guys were selling news to us that your 17 year old SADF soldiers are now fighting Boko Haram in Maiduguri (No war in Maiduguri anyway)


How has that been shown to be a lie? If Mannal saw action as a kid, why could others not have seen action as kids? You said no kids saw action in Angola. Mannal was a kid and he saw action in Angola. So, you've been shown to be wrong.

agaugust:
YOU HAVE PROVED NOTHING but a 1987 SADF soldier now turned book seller 2014 cheesy cheesy
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I have proved that kids saw action in Angola. Therefore, I have proved everything. Not my fault if you ignore the proof like the rest of your brothers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:57pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:


How does that change the proven fact that kids went to Angola?



How does his not being in Nigeria change the proven fact that kids went to Angola?




How has that been shown to be a lie? If Mannal saw action as a kid, why could others not have seen action as kids? You said no kids saw action in Angola. Mannal was a kid and he saw action in Angola. So, you've been shown to be wrong.



I have proved that kids saw action in Angola. Therefore, I have proved everything. Not my fault if you ignore the proof like the rest of your brothers.

Are you killing your own source and post ?

Your source said David was recruited age 17 in 1986 at home, sent to war a year later aged 18 in 1987.

Age 18 is worldwide standard age for Adults, no more a kid ! He went to war zone as adult. Your own source proved me right !

I said SADF won't send legal minors into war zone.

Nigeria too recruits today at age 17, but we don't send them to war until age 18. United Nation laws against child soldiers you fool cheesy cheesy

SADF has NO ARMY OF 17 YEARS OLD IN ANGOLA WAR

Today, all your mercenaries from SADF are aged about 60 years and too old for war, hot speed guerrilla warfare in Nigeria needs young blood
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:02pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:

Are you killing your own source and post ?
Your source said David was recruited age 17 in 1986 at home, sent to war a year later aged 18 in 1987.

I am asking - would you then be happier that we say 18-year olds saw action in Angola? How does that then change the primary argument about age today? It doesn't, so you are wasting your own time splitting hairs.

agaugust:

Age 18 is worldwide standard age for Adults, no more a kid ! He went to war zone as adult. Your own source proved me right !
I said SADF won't send legal minors into war zone.

Again, how does that address the issue of people being too old today? It does not, so you are wasting time and energy and achieving nothing.

agaugust:

Nigeria too recruits today at age 17, but we don't send them to war until age 18. United Nation laws against child soldiers you fool cheesy cheesy
SADF has NO ARMY OF 17 YEARS OLD IN ANGOLA WAR

An 18 year old in Angola is how old today? See why and how you have achieved nothing?

agaugust:

Today, all your mercenaries from SADF are aged about 60 years and too old for war, hot speed guerrilla warfare in Nigeria needs young blood
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It's been proved already that not all our mercenaries come from the apartheid era, so the 60-year-old comment is wrong. Nigeria needs our mercenaries and has employed them. Also, why can a 60-year-old, experienced pilot not fly a sortie?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 2:04pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:
The beasts are no more. Long live the baboons. cheesy

Sure, we would love to stay for this...

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 2:05pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:
I'm exhausted already

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:06pm On Mar 20, 2015
stillchris:
I am exhausted already

'course you are.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:07pm On Mar 20, 2015
stillchris:


My self-portrait...

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 2:16pm On Mar 20, 2015
Henry120:

I no lie, I wish say we get dem type of photographers.

However, I noticed their photos aren't from the government per say (although their military provides Helicopters to enable them take those panoramic shots), 80% of the photos come from private collections.

Unfortunately, like say we get private photographers like dem get, wetin dem see thru lens go be their last for long time o. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 2:16pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:


Wow ! You just proved my point to be correct !

No single 17 years old SADF troops were sent to battle in Angola because they are legally UNDER-AGED !

That guy in your post was recruited at home in South Africa aged 17, kept at home till legal adult age 18 years in 1987 before he was sent to war zone in Angola.

@Patches and co were lying to us here like if a thousand of 17 year old boys were fighting for SADF in Angola cheesy

So, you have ONLY ONE SINGLE 18 YEAR OLD out of 4,000 SADF men in Angola cheesy

Not more than that one lone soldier right? Yes, the rest were grand papas....see their photo below.

Then that lone boy David Mannal is now 46 years old, is the white boy still in SANDF today, is he dead or alive, was he killed later in Angola war, or is he confirmed to be a mercenary in Nigeria today as we speak?

Last time I checked, this same David Mannal is now writing and selling books online, he is NO mercenary anywhere o ! cheesy

Citation needed, show us proof he is now in North East Nigeria Boko Haram war zone....that is your take away home work for this weekend cheesy

YOU HAVE NOT PROVED IT !!!
.

@Dievlut never proves anything. just snorts all over the place. bloody troll

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:17pm On Mar 20, 2015
stillchris:


@Dievlut never proves anything. just snorts all over the place. bloody troll

@Stillchris never proves anything. Just vomits his butthurt all over the place. Bloody baboon.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 2:18pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:


@Stillchris never proves anything. Just vomits his butthurt all over the place. Bloody baboon.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:19pm On Mar 20, 2015
stillchris:
My self-portrait.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:40pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria's 3 satellites have been repeatedly posted over and over and over again here including the 100 army officers with MSc and Phd controlling it, the new 2014 cloud penetrating sophisticated radar surveillance satellite under NAF and NN command has been repeatedly posted here with sources more than 10 times this year alone. Google it or go back to this forum pages from January this year. I won't repeat it again for you lazy people
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Hey F8cktard i wasnt talking about the number of satellites Nigeria has i wanted a source of how they were better than the kondor E!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:27pm On Mar 20, 2015
jln115:


Denel broke? are you drunk? Denel is doing great!


www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37309:a-good-2014-for-denel&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116


Are you blind? I said DENEL collapsed some years ago and was rescued by your mumu government that wrecked it in the first place. 50 million mumu South Africans CANNOT run a smooth white man created defense industry.

You are a village cow milk seller who does not know what is happening inside his own country.

DENEL crashed financially around 2006, because fools like you South Africans on Nairaland thought your SANDF can go to DENEL laboratory and collect free weapons anytime without paying cash for it, in a capitalist economy you ran a defense industry as if it's your grand papa's village poultry where you just wake up one hungry morning and go pick up free chicken eggs to fry for breakfast.


"Denel lost R384-million last year on revenues of R4,4-billion. In the months leading up to his removal Moche had been warning the government that the company would not be able to continue trading after the end of June if its cash crunch was not addressed".

DENEL COLLAPSED AND WAS RESCUED BY GOVERNMENT FREE CASH HANDOUT. Nation of fools, ANC has destroyed every good thing that Nigeria forced your white Boer masters to hand over to you dullards cheesycheesy

http://m.mg.co.za/article/2005-06-17-rescue-plan-for-denel-takes-shape

Let me hear you dundeees say here again that G-6 artillery shells, Mokopa missiles, Umkhonto missiles, Seeker 400 drones are all available for SANDF free of charge without paying money.

Dundee Nation cheesycheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:29pm On Mar 20, 2015
rka1:


Unfortunately, like say we get private photographers like dem get, wetin dem see thru lens go be their last for long time o. grin

grin grin grin grin

But "we 2 dey wish" sha.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:32pm On Mar 20, 2015
jln115:

Hey F8cktard i wasnt talking about the number of satellites Nigeria has i wanted a source of how they were better than the kondor E!

Nigeria has a state-of-the art cloud penetrating high resolution day/night radar satellite.

Does your monkey model Kondor E have same power? Show us
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:40pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:


It's all fake until you prove that SAN has real missiles in ALL those 32 silos. How many Umkhonto missiles did your navy buy? Mokopa missile is still zero purchase. Umkhonto range is still 15 km maximum.

You foolish Southies keep saying anything inside DENEL tssting laboratory belongs to SANDF without paying one penny for it, is that how defense industry is run in a modern world of capitalist economies? Fools, no wonder DENEL collapsed a few years ago and went totally broke because some Soweto fools now run the place like a charity free gift shop....ANC nation of fools, no wonder Dangote scooped one billion Rands out of your pockets and your top level business executives did not know until after their bank accounts had been brutally Ràped cheesycheesycheesy
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Why don't you go to Simon's Town Naval Base and count the number of missiles inside those silos with a pen and paper? Why did you need to embarrass yourself like this? A simple google search would have shown you that Umkhonto has been operational (paid for/bought/cash transfer) with the South African Navy for over 8 years now grin grin grin. They are fired during training regularly. You are free to show us when last Nigeria fired one single missile off any of it's naval vessels.

Infact the South African Navy will fire a further two Umkhonto missiles this monday, the 23rd of March during the final stages of Exercise Good Hope. Keep opening that big mouth for attention. I will gladly keep shutting it with facts.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:09pm On Mar 20, 2015
DieVluit:


Bwahahaha

If your "top secret" pics are not shared, how do you know you have them?

What a joke!

As for the Kondor, where do you say and prove that it's not military grade? Nowhere.

Your Kondor satellite is civilian grade NOT used by Russian armed forces, it was built for Russia's civilian ministry of defense and where in the world, ministry of defense is civil service and workers there are civilians NOT soldiers. Russian source revealed that last year and I posted both the web link and photoscreen shots repeatedly till we all got tired of reading it.

You bought a civilian satellite inferior to the Russian version because yours is a degraded monkey model
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:21pm On Mar 20, 2015
Lmao!!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin

He got banned again. Saengine, enjoy your multiple bans.

At this rate, you would have to create 20 accounts.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:32pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria has a state-of-the art cloud penetrating high resolution day/night radar satellite.

Does your monkey model Kondor E have same power? Show us
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dude! you said it was better, thus its up to you to provide a source(which you cant) to prove its better(which it isnt).

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 5:46pm On Mar 20, 2015
Why Nigeria is turning to South African mercenaries.

http://theconversation.com/why-nigeria-is-turning-to-south-african-mercenaries-to-help-fight-boko-haram-38948


former members of the South African Air Force have been operating gunships mostly based out of Maiduguri, and have flown “a huge number of sorties, including nocturnal operations, with great success”. The mercenaries appear to have adopted a rather low profile, attacking usually at night and pulling out in the morning for the Nigerian government to claim credit. This suggests a deliberate desire to maintain a low profile and shows that the contractors are working closely with the Nigerian armed forces throughout this process.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:


Are you blind? I said DENEL collapsed some years ago and was rescued by your mumu government that wrecked it in the first place. 50 million mumu South Africans CANNOT run a smooth white man created defense industry.

You are a village cow milk seller who does not know what is happening inside his own country.

DENEL crashed financially around 2006, because fools like you South Africans on Nairaland thought your SANDF can go to DENEL laboratory and collect free weapons anytime without paying cash for it, in a capitalist economy you ran a defense industry as if it's your grand papa's village poultry where you just wake up one hungry morning and go pick up free chicken eggs to fry for breakfast.


"Denel lost R384-million last year on revenues of R4,4-billion. In the months leading up to his removal Moche had been warning the government that the company would not be able to continue trading after the end of June if its cash crunch was not addressed".

DENEL COLLAPSED AND WAS RESCUED BY GOVERNMENT FREE CASH HANDOUT. Nation of fools, ANC has destroyed every good thing that Nigeria forced your white Boer masters to hand over to you dullards cheesycheesy

http://m.mg.co.za/article/2005-06-17-rescue-plan-for-denel-takes-shape

Let me hear you dundeees say here again that G-6 artillery shells, Mokopa missiles, Umkhonto missiles, Seeker 400 drones are all available for SANDF free of charge without paying money.

Dundee Nation cheesycheesy
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Why dont you quote the source where it said Denel was rescued by the Government?.....You cant because the government never gave any "FREE CASH HANDOUT " Denel was merely restructuring under its new CEO
Secondly please provide a quote where it says Denel went Broke, just because you make a los doesnt mean your broke, there are many factors which have to be considered to be classified as Broke like:
Book Value Per Common Share
Asset Turnover
Cash Return On Assets
Average Collection Period
Inventory Turnover
Dividend Payout Ratio
Earnings Per Share
Debt Ratio
Gross Profit Margin
Debt / Equity Ratio
Price/Earnings Ratio
Profit Margin
Acid-Test Ratio
Return on Assets
Interest Coverage
Return on Equity
ect ect

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:03pm On Mar 20, 2015
fydence:
Carry on sir..leave mumus alone jor
lol.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:06pm On Mar 20, 2015
agaugust:


Empty missile cells, show us real missiles or source that you ordered more.

SAN has chronic missile shortage, 13 Exocets for 4 warships instead of 32 Exocets cheesy cheesy

Then your navy has ONLY ONE FRIGATE active, the other 3 are dead, was posted here in January 2015, was fun mocking you !
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Citation!!!!!!!we dont care about your opinion!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:09pm On Mar 20, 2015
Henry120:
Saengine enjoy your ban grin grin grin!
Good riddance!!
thank God that boy is in cyber-prison,he rants like a girl.

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