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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:16pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
stillchris:really,apostle paul will be proud of mr dievluit's epistles.but you see,no shaking.we will conquer all. #VictoryForNigeria #NigeriaUnitedAgainstTerror #NeverAgain 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:26pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Patchesagain: 1. Mumu, South Africa is only able to afford one single lone satellite, Nigeria afforded to pay for the three satellites we have. Your cash flow problem has no quick remedy, you struggled for about 7 years to pay Russia full price for the one lone satellite you have. Nigeria paid for 3 satellites without sweating, Southies cannot afford to buy 3 ![]() ![]() 2. Did you read your own comment? Are you iinsane? You said Nigerian satellites have low resolution poor quality images, but your own source quoted to back up your claim says you are a big liar : " It was succeeded by NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X, which both launched in 2011 carrying similar instruments for high resolution images including infrared cameras. These satellites were also made at SST, with Nigerian engineers helping to build the latter. In addition to a continued environmental mission, the satellites' high-resolution images of the country will help Nigeria review electoral boundaries ahead of its general elections in 2015." http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24025-how-nigeria-has-been-using-its-satellites.html#.VQtnmI6UeSo So you just wrecked your own argument by your own hands. ![]() ![]() Those 2 Nigerian observation satellites has captured high quality images of an American airport zoomed to show American aircraft parked there, we can spy on all nations if we wish to. 3. You goofed badly with your error upon errors, both Nigerian satellites are military grade capability......and one of them is built proudly by Nigerian engineers to British standards. Your own satellite is built 100% by Russians and is a degraded inferior monkey model. "The two satellites - the NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X - were launched on a Russian Dnepr rocket from Yasny, which is located in southern Russia. The space crafts were built at SSTL in Guildford, United Kingdom, but under the Nigerian National Space Research Development Agency (NASRDA). 26 Nigerian engineers worked at the SSTL, assembling NigeriaSat-X, which weighs around 100 kilograms (220 pounds). According to the government, the two satellites can be used for forestry, mapping, disaster monitoring, military applications and security , among other functions. "I congratulate our nation for this new chapter in our transformational efforts as we strive for self-reliance," President Goodluck Jonathan said. "Let me congratulate the resourceful Nigerians who made this history possible." According to Jonathan, NigeriaSat-X was designed and built by Nigerian engineers and scientists , while NigeriaSat-2 was built in collaboration with Surrey Satellite Technology Limited in Britain." www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=2604:nigeria-launches-spy-satellites-into-orbit Nigeria is MASTER over all Africa in satellite technology and capability as well as experience in satellite applications for modern warfare. 4. Citation needed to prove the technical specifications you claim for your Kondor satellite. 5. Your Kondor satellite is a MONKEY MODEL DOWNGRADED AND DEGRADED INFERIOR version made by Russia for export market only. Remember how many times you called Nigeria's Russian made equipment monkey models, now I welcome you to the club. Meanwhile, one of Nigeria's satellites is British made and superior to South Africa's monkey product imported from Russia. I am shoooooting y.ou with your own rifle today ![]() ![]() 6. Russian sources posted here repeatedly say your satellite is ordinary surveillance satellite NOT spy satellite and SIPRI database confirms that, so it's a civilian grade copy of what Russian ministry of defense uses as civil servants NOT military. 7. Nigeria's 3rd satellite is a surveillance satellite controlled by NAF and NN , it is an advanced cloud penetrating radar satellite with day and night vision. It is a MILITARY GRADE SATELLITE used by Nigerian Navy to track fast moving pirate boats in deep ocean, it's radar is all weather and powerful enough to detect fast moving small objects that have small RCS. This new 2014 satellite has been posted here dozens of times repeatedly with sources. 8. Three satellites for Nigeria, one only for South Africa, you are still many years behind the giant of Africa, so your struggle continues....Aluta continua ![]() ![]() . 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 6:48pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
DieVluit: It doesn't matter how many articles you post recycling the same thing. You and the Western press will have to Get used to a resurgent Nigerian Army. #NeverAgain, #ArmedToTheTeeth. ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:04pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
rka1: You dey mind dat mumu ? SA mercenaries "attacking only at night"....because Boko Haram is asleep during the day and does not operate, or they just allow Boko Haram to freely operate in day time killing thousands of innocent civilians, unrestrained and unstoppable because SA mercenaries are waiting for night fall so that they can strike back in the dark like Bat-Men ![]() ![]() When Chadian army had become rendered useless by Nigerian army, the white people's foreign media now want to transfer glory to nocturnal Dracula-Vampire night-flight-only South African mercenaries ![]() ![]() . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:51pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:59pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
WHY IS NIGERIA TURNING TO SOUTH AFRICAN MERCENARIES? http://theconversation.com/why-nigeria-is-turning-to-south-african-mercenaries-to-help-fight-boko-haram-38948 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:17pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
rka1: It doesn't matter how many times you post the same denials, recycling the same thing. You will get used to the South African mercenaries that are helping out in Nigeria. Armed to the teeth - with South African weapons and men. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:16pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Thiza: You actually kneeled down to beg your neighbor Botswana to show you mercy after South African Rangers, Army and Air Force combination FAILED to defeat local Rhino poachers who now control Kruger Park and land size of Israel inside your homeland, yes Botswana helped you hide Southie 500 Rhinos inside Botswanan territory where they have a better army. That means if terrorists invades South Africa, all of you will run to Botswana for protection . 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:20pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
agaugust:Theres a massive difference between poachers and Terrorist, and besides we protect our rhinos better than Nigeria protects its own citizans. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:37pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
Patchesagain: So far, all evidence shown here by you Southies is ONLY ONE SINGLE 18 YEAR OLD SADF man named David who fought in Angola war. Conscripts include non-combatants and those deployed for only homeland security without firing one single bullet 1,000 km away from home in Angolan war zone. 1 soldier out if 4,000 soldiers fighting in war zone Angola. You have all FAILED to prove large numbers of 17 year old SADF boys fighting war inside Angola, 1 over 4,000 = 0.00025 % = total failure without option of resit or carry over in the exam, you have to drop out of school and go learn mechanic work . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 11:04pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
agaugust: Dem be night ninja abi? ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:09am On Mar 21, 2015 |
@Agaugust says that the Nigerian army is one of the most obsolete on the continent and that NAF is only the 11th strongest airforce in Africa: Augustine says: March 19, 2015 at 12:50 am Terrorists have struck Tunisia, one of the most stable Arab nations. Speculations point to ISIS from Libya. NATO coalition in Iraq confesses slow progress means air campaign alone will not defeat ISIS, wary of ground troops deployment. Nigeria still has serious shortage of weapons/equipment, and wide gaping capability gaps in combat. We have enough weapons to defeat Boko Haram today based on recent importations, but not enough to be a military power that can work with Egypt effectively. I won’t go into this topic again until after this war is over soon, hopefully after elections. I still insist that Nigeria is buying weapons in trickles of 5 units, 10 units usual tradition…..and NAF is far behind and outside the top 10 as Africa’s number 11th ranked nation in air combat power…..NA remains one of the obsolete armies in terms of equipment in Africa, no single laser guided ATGM to boast of, reliable SAM is almost non-existent. Let me keep quiet lest I offend my ogas again o ! https://beegeagle./2015/03/18/boko-haram-and-mercenaries-in-borno-the-myth-the-reality-hearing-it-from-a-pmc-operative/ 5 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by charlos14: 2:25am On Mar 21, 2015 |
DieVluit:So before all these "mercenaries" were the nigerian planes and helicopters flying themselves? 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:42am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus There is no legal stipulation that you cannot deploy a 17 year old Until you show us that there is one, you have no argument And to be honest, 1 year makes no difference |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:46am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust: They are - as they have been deployed for free ib wartime in the past. And who said Denel was in fiscal trouble because of what you are suggesting? In anycase, Denel is now prospering And, unlike Nigeria, we have a prosperous defence industry. You primitive jungle-dwellers can barley make and aromored car The facts here are simple - as history shows, if the SANDF needs it and Denel has it then the SANDF gets it 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:47am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust: I have allready compared the specs on this forum Do you wish me to humiliate you again? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:49am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus This is beyond hair splitting This is beyond pathetic This is a new level of desperate It is a military grade sattelight - operated by the Ministry of Defence By your same argument generals are not military because they get paid by the ministry of defence and have to report to the ministry of defence You are such a pathetic man - toughen up and face facts |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:53am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust:Even 16 year old Ovambo SADF soldiers fought in Angola. 17 year olds reported for military service. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dacostaANG: 9:13am On Mar 21, 2015 |
Hi, I stumbled across this site by chance and I must say there are some interesting views here. I would love to express my view here especially with regards to air and naval power if its possible. I'm from Angola so I would focus more on a Southern African(SADC). Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:37am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust:How old was Legendary Brigadier General Karel Njoba when he joined the SADF? 17 year olds fought in Angola. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:43am On Mar 21, 2015 |
dacostaANG:Welcome mate! Debates get heated up in this thread at times, also pass by @Henry120's photo thread. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:51am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust: That is untrue. Rhinos were transfered to Botswana because there was some evidence that poaching was facilitated by people within. So, that was a tactical move to root out the moles out of their holes. However, we are still saying SA does not need any military help from its neighbours to fight insurgency. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:08am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust: [size=18] NIGERIA HAS ZERO MILITARY SATELLITE[/size] KONDOR E is by far more advanced that all satellites that Nigeria ever had. It uses the latest technology of not only penetrating the cloud but also the water surfaces, the bush and earth. It can detect land mines and bunkers as well through its SAR capabilities. Nigeria does not have SAR (Spy) capable satellite. Your satellite is only capable to do earth observations only, that's why civilians can access it as well to do their academic research. SANDF kondor E is on par with that of RUSSIAN military and only two so far were built. SA always go for the best, while Nigeria would always go after the droppings left behind by China. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_aperture_radar http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondor_(satellite) http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/thread/1418994925/last-1418994925/Russia+launches+Kondor-E+SAR+satellite+for+S.African+DoD+--+their+first+SAR+sat 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:52am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust: So your argument is: 1. We cant afford it Uhh... your two sat's cost £35 million Our one cost £55 million. Seems it is you who cannot afford it Project took 7 years because the Kondor-E was in development - the Russians only put the first one into space in 2013 2. Resolution Your 1 satelite is only capable of a resolution of 22m and the other is capable of a resolution of 2,5m in perfect conditions. Ours is capable of 2m resolution regardless of conditions. They are not capable of providing meaningfull military grade images. 3. Nigeria masters of African satelites. No - we launched our own 100% South African satelite in 1999. And another in 2013. You arent even close to our level 4. Nigerian satelites are military grade Hahahaha - they are environmental monitering grade. As is stated in their mission plan. 5. Kondor-E technical specifications https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/k/kondor-e 6. The capabilities of your satelite have been compared to ours - yours are significantly inferior 7. It is a military satelite. Observation is a synonym for spying you dofus. 7. Nigeria's 3rd satellite is a surveillance satellite controlled by NAF and NN, it is an advanced cloud penetrating radar satellite with day and night vision. It is a MILITARY GRADE SATELLITE used by Nigerian Navy to track fast moving pirate boats in deep ocean, it's radar is all weather and powerful enough to detect fast moving small objects that have small RCS. This new 2014 satellite has been posted here dozens of times repeatedly with sources. You delusional ape, there is no such thing. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:54am On Mar 21, 2015 |
agaugust: Augustus. We are not going to survey every border war veteran for you. Men were eligable for conscription at 17, thus, logically, there were 17 year olds deployed. Stop fixating on the age - he could be 17, 18 , 19 , 20... the point is still simple. A young man who fought in the late 80's is still capable of fighting and leading today. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:55am On Mar 21, 2015 |
[size=20pt]A pleasant reminder:[/size] Patchesagain: 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 11:41am On Mar 21, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:56am On Mar 21, 2015 |
dacostaANG: welcome chief. Let me start by saying the South-Africans have been talking trash about your military and country. So, you should start by responding to their allegations. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:10pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
Henry120: What trash? O, you mean a historically accurate narrative? Lol, ok. Anyhow - at least the Angolans have the balls to stand up and go toe to toe in conventional warfare and employ modern equipment effectivly. You clowns could barely face the freaking RUF 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:18pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Even in your deepest, darkest hallucinations, you don't believe what you've just typed. Nigeria, along with Egypt and Algeria Operate Africa's most modern array of equipment. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:33pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
Henry120: List us 10 Modern weapons which are currently operated by Nigeria please. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:46pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: List 10 currently operated by South-Africa? 3 Likes |
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