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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 7:33am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
33 pound of weapon grade uranium will build a nuclear bomb effective enough to wipe out a cluster of towns,dont agrandize your meagre nuclear materials,you talk as if 200kg of uranium is enough to sink a galaxy.
How many kilograms of enriched uranium did the first atomic bomb contain?.hiroshima is barely the size of maiduguri.
We also have high caliber uranium,even if it isnt enriched,it is still highly radioactive; if oscillated at a supersonic speed,at a very high temperature in a supercharged atmosphere,the resulting detonation will be very devastating.

Actually, South Africa has enough to power up to six bombs.

That's a lot of bombs by any measure.

Again, Nigeria has nothing - and will continue to have nothing. Your insistence that you also have uranium (which is raw uranium) only serves to show that you dont know what you are talking about. That's like insisting that you have crude when the topic is diesel - which you can't produce to meet your needs.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:35am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
33 pound of weapon grade uranium will build a nuclear bomb effective enough to wipe out a cluster of towns,dont agrandize your meagre nuclear materials,you talk as if 200kg of uranium is enough to sink a galaxy.
How many kilograms of enriched uranium did the first atomic bomb contain?.hiroshima is barely the size of maiduguri.
We also have high caliber uranium,even if it isnt enriched,it is still highly radioactive; if oscillated at a supersonic speed,at a very high temperature in a supercharged atmosphere,the resulting detonation will be very devastating.


You are uneducated indeed concerning nuclear technology. SA currently has an already prepared 200 KG of Nuclear weapon fuel hopefully extracted from the nuclear bombs SA once had and that is excluding the weapon grade weapon grade uranium that could be converted anytime into nuclear weapon fuel .

I say again, only one atom bomb will demolish the whole of Abuja beyond recognition, remember Hiroshima. The radiation itself leave nothing behind. believe it or not.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:37am On Mar 24, 2015
DieVluit:

Iran is in trouble because it has been trying to enrich uranium for years. A process which todate is not complete. South Africa already has weapons grade nuclear fuel. Enough to make at least three nuclear bombs the size of the one that dropped in Hiroshima. At least.

Look at the South African circle - it is dark red in the middle. That means South Africa has bomb grade uranium already - and is the only country in the red category that has that.
Perhaps you do not understand the dynamics of nuclear proliferation.Iran isnt in any trouble,infact iran may be given legal liberty under international laws to have nuclear weapons if the US is reckless enough to sign the new nuclear resolution between them.
South africa has enriched uranium,enough to make a few bombs.but we have high caliber uranium enough to sink this planet.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:39am On Mar 24, 2015
Msauza:



YOU STATEMENT ABOVE IS GROSSLY UNTRUE. THERE IS NO SALES OF NUCLEAR WARHEADS.


WHY IS IT THAT YOU NIGERIANS LACK QUALITY EDUCATION?
Your antagonistic stance is indeed amusing.tell me what is untrue about anything i said.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 7:43am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
Your antagonistic stance is indeed amusing.tell me what is untrue about anything i said.

You do not have the ability or the means to produce a nuclear bomb.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:46am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
Your antagonistic stance is indeed amusing.tell me what is untrue about anything i said.



Everything that you mentioned was immature and childish. You are thinking like a child and none of your government officials can think so childish.

Iran/North Korea were also accused to have acquired nuclear weapon technology from South Africans, dummy. Both countries are still struggling to acquire technology fully.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:49am On Mar 24, 2015
agaugust:


Your SAAF cannot even leave their air base to another country for combat deployment as at today, you have no aviation fuel to fly.

NAF flew 1,000 km to 2,000 km to fight with Alpha jets in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, and Mali from 1990 to 2013
.

It doesn't a change mate, your air force can only its air power in a contested air space.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 7:50am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
Perhaps you do not understand the dynamics of nuclear proliferation.

What does this even mean. Explain it. What is "the dynamics of nuclear proliferation.

I can bet my last dollar that you don't even know what those words mean.

EVarn:

Iran isnt in any trouble,infact iran may be given legal liberty under international laws to have nuclear weapons if the US is reckless enough to sign the new nuclear resolution between them.

If Iran has not been allowed to complete its programme - and has not completed its programme, how do you know that they have the means to complete it? You don't. You are just saying that they can without any evidence.

Iran has to date been founds to be proceeding along a programme of uranium enrichment, but has so far been deemed to be far from a bomb.

http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/is-iran-ten-years-away-from-a-nuclear-bomb/

The former head of Israel’s nuclear agency says that Iran is at least a decade away from acquiring an operational nuclear weapon.

According to Israeli media outlets, Brigadier General (res.) Uzi Eilam, who served for ten years as the head of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission, said that it would take Iran a decade to acquire a nuclear deterrent, and it might not even be seeking one.

“The Iranian nuclear program will only be operational in another 10 years,” Eilam said Ynet News reported. “Even so, I am not sure that Iran wants the bomb.”


EVarn:

South africa has enriched uranium,enough to make a few bombs.but we have high caliber uranium enough to sink this planet.

What on earth is high-calibre uranium? You don't even know.

You have raw uranium like you have crude. In the end, it means nothing when it comes to making atomic bombs. You are nowhere.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:51am On Mar 24, 2015
agaugust:


What would South Africa do without aviation fuel and short combat radius Gripen fuel tank in that same scenario?
.

Again augubugubu strays into dreamland as he has nothing to counter.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:52am On Mar 24, 2015
Henry120:


Nigeria struggling with vehicles

The Igirigi prototype was launched in 2012, it entered service in 2013, I fail to see how that's struggling.


Do you even know what struggling is?
Yes, struggling with vehicles.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:58am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
what do you mean "light strikes"?,we have deployed battalions of troops into the heart of a warzone on many occassions.
we have the necessary aircraft,including helicopters to do that.our paratroopers are one of the best,trained by the russian spietnaz and british special unit.
Look at him dream.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:00am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
Simple,we send in a few of our F7,coupled with one or two attack helicopters to an airbase in South Sudan using a transport aircraft.we then pound uganda from our position in sudan,not even its second-hand SU30 combat aircrafts will save uganda from total demolition.
grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:42am On Mar 24, 2015

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:58am On Mar 24, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:49am On Mar 24, 2015
DieVluit:

You do not have the ability or the means to produce a nuclear bomb.
we have the means.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:52am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
we have the means.

As demonstrated where?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:53am On Mar 24, 2015
Msauza:

Everything that you mentioned was immature and childish. You are thinking like a child and none of your government officials can think so childish.

Iran/North Korea were also accused to have acquired nuclear weapon technology from South Africans, dummy. Both countries are still struggling to acquire technology fully.
kindly point out what was "immature and childish" about what i wrote,i will like to know.
while you are at it,also post proof of North Korea and Iran seeking nuclear technology from South Africa.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dacostaANG: 9:54am On Mar 24, 2015
agaugust:


Patriotism?

I post technical facts not patriotism.

Bros, sorry to say you are jumping into a forum with a thread that has almost 2,000 pages . Do you know what we have discussed here in the past 5 years of this same topic? No, you don't.

You have too many leaking holes in your above comment. Does Angola have any air force pilot with air to air combat experience? Have you worked with any combat experienced jet fighter pilot before? Be honest.

Well, I have ex-USAF pilots working in my office, they have shot down enemy jet fighters before in combat.

Last year on this forum, I posted a report from an American jet fighter test pilot who proved that in close range air to air combat, the 3.5 generation jets and the 4 generation jets are both going to die together in combat if pilot skills are equal.

Reason is that you have only about 10 seconds to make decisions when missiles speed to k.ill at 3,000 km per hour and the enemy launch jet is within visual range just 20 km away from you! Sudden death!

There is something in air to air combat technically called NO ESCAPE ZONE....you enter that close range, you both die.

Now you say SAAF Gripen C/D is better than Su-30 MKI of India? Big error!

The Su-30MKI radar range is 400 km against the weaker Gripen radar range of 120 km. Dude, I don't know you but you sound like a comedian.

In WVR combat, the Su-30MKI has vector thrusting capability which is totally missing on Gripen . The supermaneuverability of the Su-30 gives dogfight superiority for missile evasion and gun fight edge, it will kill the poorly maneuverable Gripen.

Your other mistake is that you limited air combat to just the machines, you omitted pilot skill, previous combat experience, and pilots intelligence or sense and speed of judgement/decision making.

Also you said the old Gripen of South Africa is better than the latest Su-30 Flanker, I just pity you, the latest version is Su-30SM of Russia and it is built to challenge the F-22 Raptor, it switches off radar and uses long range Video TV camera to detect and attack stealth jet fighters that are invisible to radar. You don't even know about Su-30SM, try ask questions when you don't understand things.

Dude, you need more than one head to take on Nigerians, the South Africans here can show you all their bruises and wounds they have suffered in this slaughter house
.

My friend it seems the USAF pilot you spoke to never completed he's training because he himself needs to use he's brain before he gives you wrong info.

I don't want to insulting you on this forum but I must say your arguments are more then of point and borders on the level of fantasies bro.

I can only but laugh at your post. I'm not going to respond at this moment because I think you should do your research and be truthful to yourself, your fellow countryman including the SA guys.

Until you've seen the SU-30 and the Gripen live in either a air show or in simulated combat I suggest you should rather not write the half truths above.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:56am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
we have the means.


You don't have the means, not at all. You must have to learn a lot about low-enriched uranium (LEU), reactor grade and highly-enriched uranium (HEU) which is a weapon grade. It is not easy to acquire the latter. There are currently only ten countries which have the skill and technology to do that, SA being one of them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:57am On Mar 24, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Look at him dream.
dream indeed,we have deployed firepower to as far as somalia.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:59am On Mar 24, 2015
DieVluit:


As demonstrated where?
under the Nigerian earth crust.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:02am On Mar 24, 2015
Msauza:



You don't have the means, not at all. You must have to learn a lot about low-enriched uranium (LEU), reactor grade and highly-enriched uranium (HEU) which is a weapon grade. It is not easy to acquire the later. There are currently only ten countries which have the skill and technology to do that, SA being one of them.
we have the later under our earth crust,waiting to be harvested for the greater doom of our enemies.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:03am On Mar 24, 2015
[size=18]Countries that have produced
weapons-grade nuclear
material[/size]

Relatively few countries have produced
weapons-grade nuclear material. The only
countries known to have done so are China,
France, India, Israel, North Korea, Pakistan,
Russia, South Africa, the United Kingdom, and
the United States.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons-grade

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:10am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
we have the later under our earth crust,waiting to be harvested for the greater doom of our enemies.

That's like saying crude = diesel.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:10am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
we have the later under our earth crust,waiting to be harvested for the greater doom of our enemies.


Man I can see that your knowledge concerning nuclear technology is severely limited. Natural uranium does not only surface out of the ground as highly enriched uranium good enough as weapon grade uranium. It needs expertise and isotopes to treat it. Where will you get all that? SA or Canada. It takes a lot of energy, money and time to achieve all that especially when the international law concerning proliferation of Nuclear weapons is so tight. If you didn't get it before the law was enforced then forget it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:10am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
under the Nigerian earth crust.

You have an atomic bomb under the "Nigerian earth crust"?

Wow.

A new one is born everyday.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:24am On Mar 24, 2015
@Evan- This is another lecture. Not all nuclear weapons are Atom Bombs (AB), some are just encapsulated in small packages the size of missiles with reduced charges to reduce the damage/explosion. With SA currently ready-to-use nuclear weapon fuel, it could instead be converted into many nuclear-type weapons other than half a dozen atomic bombs which can cause catastrophic damage which will harm the earth.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:41am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
33 pound of weapon grade uranium will build a nuclear bomb effective enough to wipe out a cluster of towns,dont agrandize your meagre nuclear materials,you talk as if 200kg of uranium is enough to sink a galaxy.
How many kilograms of enriched uranium did the first atomic bomb contain?.hiroshima is barely the size of maiduguri.
We also have high caliber uranium,even if it isnt enriched,it is still highly radioactive; if oscillated at a supersonic speed,at a very high temperature in a supercharged atmosphere,the resulting detonation will be very devastating.

The little boy, the bomb that was dropped in Hiroshima contained only about 60Kg of nuclear weapon fuel. However, the SA (HEU) has more recharged molecules than the one that filled the little boy.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!! Man you are confused get some education, but please let it not be Nigerian. At least, try your neighbors GHANA, they will give you a good quality education other than that circus education you are on about.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA…

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:50am On Mar 24, 2015
EVarn:
half a dozen nuclear weapons hardly makes any nation a nuclear powerhouse.a concerted barrage of precision airstrikes will destroy every single particle of nuclear substance you have left{if the burglars dont get it first}.

Nigeria does not have the ability to deploy precision airstrikes

ANd you will have to get through our air defence umbrella first
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