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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 2:35pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
EVarn: I really do not gain anything from arguing with you. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:38pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
EVarn: It is nowhere near as simple as that You will end up like Iran if you even joke about such a thing. Plus, you dont just "buy the technology" |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:43pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
agaugust: So - you expect us to beleive that the 35km range is the word of god and cannot be questioned But the 6km ceiling is open to interpretation? What is wrong with you? Do you respect this thread so little that you are now just trolling? This is final proof that South Africa is more powerfull than Nigeria. The Nigerians in this forum have given up on honest debate and all we have left is this loser who is so lonely that he trolls internet forums so that he gets someone to talk to. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 2:44pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
[size=18]EVEN IF AN F7 JET CAN BE ARMED WITH BVR IT WILL STILL NOT DEFEAT GRIPEN JET. THE GRIPEN JET WILL DETECT IT FIRST WITH ITS WIDER DETECTION RADAR AND STAND A CHANCE TO FIRE THE FIRST SHOT. THE F7 CANNOT FIRE THE MISSILE UNLESS IT HAS DETECTED THE GRIPEN AND WHAT SADDENS THE MOST IS THE FACT THAT BEFORE IT CAN DETECT THE POSITION OF THE GRIPEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LONG DETECTED BY GRIPEN AND HENCE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD. THE BVR IS NOT THE BEST PLATFORM FOR J7/F7 BECAUSE IT HAS POOR DETECTION RADAR. THE ENEMY WILL ALWAYS DETECT IT FIRST AND APPROACH IT FROM BEHIND OR FROM ITS WEAKEST LINK.[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:03pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
THE PL-9 AAM WITH A RANGE OF 22KM AND SAM VARIANT WITH AN ALTITUDE OF 4.5 KM. @AGAUGUST SHOP STOP SPREADING PROPAGANDA OUT OF DESPERATION http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL-9 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 3:22pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Msauza:then stop arguing,au revoir to you. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:26pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
EVarn: Yep you don't have any nuclear weapon material, spare that argument for the likes of India and Russia, etc. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:42pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
EVarn: Is that something you should be proud of or you should be shame of? Your ground forces perform poorly since thee civil war in the 60s. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:44pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
patches689: It makes sense. Unfortunately i'm not in charge of procurement at DHQ. However let it be known, as a military Doctrine, Nigeria has and would always continue to carry out a diverse procurement Policy. Nigeria had one of the most internationally diversified and balanced defense procurement strategies. Nigeria acquired arms from about eight suppliers during 1978-82, tying Zaire as the most diversified sub-Saharan state (see table 20, Appendix). Its largest supplier during that period, West Germany, provided only about one-third of its US$845 million total. This diversified pattern became even more pronounced in the mid-1980s. During 1983-87, Nigeria imported military matériel valued at US$1.5 billion from about ten major suppliers--more than any other African state, and Italy, its largest supplier, accounted for only 23 percent. And, http://www.bpp.gov.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=190:bpp-facilitates-defence-headquarters-procurement-awareness-seminar&catid=83:latest-news&Itemid=238 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:25pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Henry120: Removing our local stuff we all so diverse. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 4:39pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Msauza:i thought you said that you dont wanna argue with me?.Acquiring a nuclear arsenal is one of our long term goals.Right now,we are concentrating on our almighty space programme,our goal is to become a world intelligence and surveillance powerhouse,then ceteris paribus,nuclear weapons would follow when we are ready. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 4:39pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Msauza:lol.i thought you said that you dont wanna argue with me?.Acquiring a nuclear arsenal is one of our long term goals.Right now,we are concentrating on our almighty space programme,our goal is to become a world intelligence and surveillance powerhouse,then ceteris paribus,nuclear weapons would follow when we are ready. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 4:55pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:We crushed Republic of Biafra into smithereens,Biafra had the unholy support of france and other unscrupulous corroborators,yet we squeeze them hard until they became charred husks.Dont forget that Colonel Odumegwu Ogukwu,the then leader of the Peoples Army of Biafra was a trained Nigerian Army general,and prior to his declared sucession,he was also governor of eastern nigeria under the supreme military council.He had manpower numbering over 30,000 before the war,and 100,000 during the climax of battle.he had a large cache of the nigerian armoury in his control.Yet,we won the war,and the rest is history. show me what the SANDF have achieved so far,aside from posing with swedish aircrafts and baseless paparazzi. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 6:49pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
EVarn: Another Nigerian who missed history classes, the highest rank Ojukwu attained before 1967 was the rank of colonel and a governor by political appointment, If he ever assumed a General status, it must have been self acclaimed not earned from the Nigerian army, he taught the likes of Murtala Mohammed and Adekunle (black scorpion) in the Ghana defence academy (whatever it is called now), same students of his championed the most fierce blow to Ojukwu's Biafra, that tells you how badly he implemented his board room strategies. Dont forget to mention that same Ojukwu "ran away","absconded" and practically "abandoned" his own revolution, first of its kind in their history at the time, thanks to General Effiong who negotiated the truce that saved us in a war we were clearly losing but needs to be fueled by the selfish ego of one senseless individual. what is special about a proven coward to be mentioned in history? The tale of cowardice is so boring to the ears. I dont know whether you were born at the time but testimonies from survivors said they actually started the war with machete and pitch forks, there was just one military installation in the east and after the January 15 coup by the eastern officers, majority of the arms in that barracks was withdrawn and transferred to Kaduna, that paved the way for the retaliatory coup of July. The Biafrans practically improvised most of the arms they used, in all fairness, real weaponry started trickling in towards the end of the war when the likes of Ivory coast and France came to their rescue. It was no news that most Biafran soldiers fought 2 to 1 riffle at the onset of the conflict as a matter of undiluted fact, Calabar sector fell because Ojukwu at some point made a desperate attempt to sustain Enugu by withdrawing Sub machine guns from Calabar " we that are about to die salute you" hope it rings a bell. Be very careful the level of misinformation you throw out here, your child may be reading and forming a clueless opinion with it. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:51pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
EVarn:I'm talking about performance. Your ground forces performed bad during the civil war and in every following war that followed. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:55pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:what was i talking about?robots?.we maintain a robust military,your opinions are irrelevant. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:56pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Patchesagain: [size=16pt] South Africa has joined the United Nations nuclear non-proliferation treaty, you will NOT make any nuclear bombs, or else the world will cripple your country with sanctions again and wreck your already shaky shaky economy.... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons [/size] . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:01pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
EVarn: Maintain? Since when? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:19pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You can say year 2005 SAAF upgraded Cheetah jets are the same as 1960s Mirage Jets because that us what they actually were, same airframe re-welded.....then you can say they have the same combat capability. Nope, 2010 F-7NI has nothing to do with 1950s MiG-21. Different F-7 engine from Chengdu, different wing Swept-Delta, different speed-climb rate-altitude-power thrust-gravity load-ferry range-combat radius-cruise parameters-langing gear-weapons configurations-payload, also added vertical fin stabilizers, new situational awareness cockpit canopy, modern sensors, computers, radar, HOTAS, HUDAWAC, HMS. As I have said, only a fool thinks NAF's year 2010 F-7NI is same as 1950 MiG-21. Like I should say SAAF 2005 Cheetah jets are same as their original 1960s Mirage III jets because it's actually the same aircraft airframe rewelded by Israel. Soweto buffoooons ![]() ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:20pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
agaugust: Article X allows a state to leave the treaty if "extraordinary events, related to the subject matter of this Treaty, have jeopardized the supreme interests of its country", giving three months' (ninety days') notice. The state is required to give reasons for leaving the NPT in this notice. Article X.1 only requires a state to give three months' notice in total, and does not provide for other states to question a state's interpretation of "supreme interests of its country". 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:21pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
agaugust: You still have not anserwed the question. Was is 2010 level means? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:22pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
patches689:Gave up on what? We felt the temptation to give up on your ability to never accept truth and fact. The only time we felt the urge of giving up was when we saw you for what you are: a troll-magnet; a man whose very blood is fueled by the uncanny ability to lie to his very self. You have never accepted any fact or truth in your entire nairaland existence. Your contributions here are as theatrical and emotional as your hatred for Nigeria. This thread has been educative and fun because of people like agagust, Evarn, Henry120 and one or two SA folks; this thread has survived inspite of you. We won't give up on your lies, troll Mõrön. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:35pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:since 1960 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:03pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
@jpphilips,i thought that we arrived at a mutual concensus?,there was no misinformation in anything i posted,i wasnt around during the civil war,but nevertheless,i recieved the undiluted account of events from sources who personally participated heavily in the war. I wasnt hailing Ojukwu,neither did i aggrandize his insane lust for power,infact,i detest him for the act of cowardice he performed towards the end{though i respect his intelligence}. Revolutionaries such as Adolf Hitler,Napoleon Bonaparte,Moussoulinni etc....fought and died for their cause,they didnt run away like wimpering dogs when they tasted defeat. I dont understand the reason why you are being so unfairly antagonistic towards me,did i ever offend you?. You spun a sobering tale about how ojukwu was a selfish coward with an oversized ego{a notion which i duly support},yet you failed to document the reason why he started the war in the first place,as much as Ojukwu was a power monger,he didnt just wake up one morning and decide to start a war. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:50pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Patchesagain: SAAF didn't have fuel to fly into Congo and make a long air campaign. NAF flew combat sorties for 10 years non stop in Liberia and Sierra Leone. SAAF can only day dream of achieving that, and they will never be able to do it. Cowards don't fly combat missions, they settle for VIP transport like SAAF has wisely done . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:54pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
jpphilips:As much as your account of the biafran war might be more accurate, your swift impulse to lecture Evarn numbed your sensitivity to what he was saying. His emphasis was on the Nigerian army. He never sided or implied Ojukwu was a hero. I would love to see more detailed account of military history and standing from you just like in your last post, that is, hoping your penchant for putting a patriotic Nigerian down doesn't become the overwhelming compulsion. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:57pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:59pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Why do some people enjoy being unnecessarily unscrupulous?,i never in any of my post,mention that Ojukwu attained the rank of general,or that he was a divine matyr.The unsavory individuals who constantly hijack my amiable views on military matters must be intellectually bereaved if they cannot read my post and understand that we are practically saying the same thing,instead of erroneously concluding upon unrelated fallacies. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:15pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
lezz:It is a disturbing dilemma,as you rightly said,my emphasis was on the Nigerian army,nothing i posted was false.@jpphilip lashed violently against me by suscintly claiming that i was aggrandizing ojukwu by portraying him to be an invincible army general,did i call ojukwu a general?,what i posted was: "Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu",where did i imply that Ojukwu was a ranking general?. It was also true that Biafra 'inherited' an impressive cache of weapons from the nigerian army,otherwise,what did they fight with for 3 years?. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 10:29pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
EVarn:He didn't only missed the import of your post but went ahead to derail the thread by unnecessary and unrelated accounts of that war. If not for his moniker and detailed accounts of that war I was almost taking him for a southafrica. His sense of patriotism needs to be bìtćh-slapped into active / defensive status. And if he has no more information to promote the Nigerian military, he best stay as an observer. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:43pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
lezz:right on point,his claims were unnecessary and downright unpatriotic.what kind of person claims that his country fought a 3 year battle against a renegade militia that was armed with only "knives and pitchforks"?. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:01pm On Mar 24, 2015 |
Patchesagain: You wrote a folder full of garbage above, but let me answer just one of them that is a bit fresh garbage (The other ones have been repeated too often here) : Gripen jet is NOT a stealth jet fighter, so switching off it's radar will not save it from the sharp claws of the Nigerian BVR missile F-7NI jet. The F-7 is not looking for the Gripen radar, it's looking for the metal body airframe of the Gripen and will detect that 40 km away. The Gripen is committing suicide by switching off it's own radar, meaning it can no longer detect the F-7 and the incoming PL-9C missile, so your Soweto pilot just hears a big (((((( BOOM )))))) explosion, sees the fire ball and feels the roasting heat for 2 seconds and opens his eyes in H.ELL with d.emons opening that gate of H.ADES for him. Datalink is NOT a detection device, it can only work if another aircraft is using it's own radar and transmits data to the Gripen, but then what aircraft is that? It will become a target to be shot down along with the Gripen. So sorry about all this danger your South African air force has suddenly become exposed to, I know your jets are expensive, it's just that they are too poorly armed, sorry Nigeria has to make you country a victim of our near BVR missiles. You can buy back your freedom from captivity, ship to Lagos a convoy of Ocean liners loaded with 10,000 tested HIV FREE and clean South African 18 year old pretty city girls who will be exchanged for your country's national security, Nigeria will then sign a pact not to use BVR missiles on South Africa. That is the only way to save your lives those beautiful 8,000 black, 1,000 coloured, and 1,000 white girls will be the full price paid for your freedom. . |
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