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Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by k9ine(m): 11:36am On Mar 25, 2015 |
Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: my viewpoint Sometimes I just sit and wonder how our politicians choose to play politics in this country of ours. In all sincerity, the fears I have about the All Progressives Congress APC as a party, and Gen. Muhammadu Buhari as its presidential candidate are beginning to be confirmed by them. Let it be known that I do not belong to a political party, or engaged to write this up; but it is what my heart has been resonating all this while. I will speak as objectively as I can without hate or prejudice and I want you to see it thus. All this brouhaha about certificate or no certificate should have been laid to rest a long time ago, but it does appear we have a penchant for deception and very glaring lies which will not make us to think of Nigeria first, but our bellies. Why is it that we like to complicate very simple things of life, obtaining or tendering a copy of certificate is not rocket science, so I wonder why we choose to make it a galactic endeavour. 1. A man submits an application form to INEC, and does not attach supporting docs IRO his academic certifications and deposes to an affidavit that the Secretary of the Army Board is in possession of them. – Who among you does your current/former employer keep their certificates? 2. Sometime in the heat of the controversy generated, the APC tells Nigerians that the regime of Gen. Babangida looted Gen. Buhari’s documents when he (GMB) was overthrown. He and the APC visited IBB at his Hilltop residence and couldn’t smooth talk him into releasing his documents? By this the ruling party will be put to shame. 3. Furthermore, when the Army said it did not have a copy of Buhari’s WASC, but a recommendation letter from Buhari’s principal, the General says he thought all this while the Army Board had them. Immediately, the APC says certificate of no certificate is not the issue and that the Peoples’ Democratic Party (PDP) was scared he was going to defeat their candidate Dr Goodluck Jonathan at the polls, and even recommended that the PDP should go to the court. 4. The General happened to be in the UK for two weeks, during this period and made a presentation at the Chatmam House, The Royal Institute of International Affairs. One wonders why he didn’t go to Cambridge during this period and collect his 1961 WASC, this would have dealt a heavy hammer blow to the PDP and increased his chances at the polls. 5. I wonder why the APC should say that "anyone who will disqualify a presidential candidate on the eve of an election can only have one and only one purpose for that: to trigger chaos and pandemonium across the country”… "This is why we are hoping that good reason will prevail and nothing will be done, deliberately, to plunge Nigeria into crisis… Why would there be chaos, is GMB bigger than Nigeria, he had all the time in the world to present his certificate(s), but didn’t, now they threaten us? If a man is not qualified he is not qualified QED. Why bend the rules for one man, is he different from other contestants? The PDP has gone to court (as advised by the APC) and now they threaten everyone - funny indeed. I pray that the rule of law is upheld and that justice is done. I want to ask some very disturbing questions. 1. Did GMB sit for his secondary school final exams. 2. Why has Buhari himself never said “I have WASC”, or tendered a certificate? It appears he knows the implications of that which would only strengthen the case of perjury the PDP has brought up against him. 3. What is it that only Buhari is always presented as the presidential candidate? So in the entire APC only the General is fit for this position. There must be something about him only the political caucus know and would use to their advantage and to the Nigeria’s disadvantage. 4. Why has the APC with all the resources and energy that they have committed to defending this no-certificate issue, not directed a little of it to helping Buhari obtain a copy of his certificate? If they did, by now APC would be smiling to the polls. My conclusion is this, that having objectively looked at this issue, the APC is helping to confirm my fears which I don’t want to be confirmed (because it will further stain the fabric of our national appearance) that – Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (rtd) did not sit for/and or obtain his West African School Certificate (WASC), and this is the ‘banana coat’ (to borrow the language of Chief Zebrudaya) for the APC and GMB which they have dropped on the floor themselves. Thank you. God bless you. God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria, and May He give us free, fair and peaceful elections. Amen. - k9ine 18 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by yuncka: 11:56am On Mar 25, 2015 |
In as much as U tried not to sound one sided, it still looks as though U have some 'personals' wit APC. In all these, U should have held INEC responsible because if they were to be transparent enough, they would have disqualified Buhari when he didn't attach his certificate to the form he was submitting. And to think that INEC has cleared him in previos elections without his certificate.... 2 Likes |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by richol(m): 12:01pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
AND THEN HIS SO CALLED SCHOOL MATES TESTIFIED HE WENT TO SCHOOL.......IF I WERE TO PRESENT MY SCHOOL CERT FOR A JOB,CAN I CALL MY SCHOOL MATES AS AN ALTERNATIVE?.....OLD CARGO...HE CANT EVEN LIE STRAIGHT,IS THAT HOW HE INTENDS RULING NIGERIA,WITH OLD IDEAS?.......GEJ TILL 2019 5 Likes |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by galadima77(m): 12:04pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
hmmm....i think d whole idea of this thread is to continue where pdp stopped. are u saying gmb isnt qualified or doesnt possess wasc? 1 Like |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 12:04pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
k9ine: Read the excerpt provided below... On Buhari’s educational qualification, he said: “Buhari’s principal was my principal. From their school, the principal, Mr. West was sent to our school. Source: http://thenationonlineng.net/new/buhari-ordered-dismiss-48-errant-cadets-nda-32-muslims-gen-paul-tarfa/ 2. Sometime in the heat of the controversy generated, the APC tells Nigerians that the regime of Gen. Babangida looted Gen. Buhari’s documents when he (GMB) was overthrown. He and the APC visited IBB at his Hilltop residence and couldn’t smooth talk him into releasing his documents? By this the ruling party will be put to shame. ^^^Puerile arguments that are not worthy of a response. 3. Furthermore, when the Army said it did not have a copy of Buhari’s WASC, but a recommendation letter from Buhari’s principal, the General says he thought all this while the Army Board had them. Immediately, the APC says certificate of no certificate is not the issue and that the Peoples’ Democratic Party (PDP) was scared he was going to defeat their candidate Dr Goodluck Jonathan at the polls, and even recommended that the PDP should go to the court. Disapprove the following and shame the devil.. It’s absurd to say Buhari has no certificate – Gen. Tarfa Source: http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/new-news/19039-it-s-absurd-to-say-buhari-has-no-certificate-gen-tarfa 4. The General happened to be in the UK for two weeks, during this period and made a presentation at the Chatmam House, The Royal Institute of International Affairs. One wonders why he didn’t go to Cambridge during this period and collect his 1961 WASC, this would have dealt a heavy hammer blow to the PDP and increased his chances at the polls. Who told you it is possible to get a certificate for an examination held more than 50 years ago, in 2015, TANoid @k9ine? When are you untutored clowns going to understand that things worked a little differently in the 1960s? Or that 'University of Cambridge Local Examinations Syndicate' (UCLES) no longer exists in its original form. For one; all enquiries relating to certificates of exams held that far back, must now go to 'Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Exams' (OCR) - a new examination board Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Exams (OCR)Source: Get a replacement exam certificate -- https://www.gov.uk/replacement-exam-certificate/if-your-old-exam-board-no-longer-exists And two; OCR would only provide a 'certifying statement of results' - the equivalent of the same document already provided by Katsina college - and not an original CERTIFICATE. *** Refer to screen shot attached, for further information. 5. I wonder why the APC should say that "anyone who will disqualify a presidential candidate on the eve of an election can only have one and only one purpose for that: to trigger chaos and pandemonium across the country”… "This is why we are hoping that good reason will prevail and nothing will be done, deliberately, to plunge Nigeria into crisis… Why would there be chaos, is GMB bigger than Nigeria, he had all the time in the world to present his certificate(s), but didn’t, now they threaten us? If a man is not qualified he is not qualified QED. Why bend the rules for one man, is he different from other contestants? The PDP has gone to court (as advised by the APC) and now they threaten everyone - funny indeed. I pray that the rule of law is upheld and that justice is done. APC issued a warning, simple. If you look around you, you will find that no upstanding Nigerian of repute has ever repudiated Buhari's claim of fulfilling the qualifying the criteria; which is nothing more than a secondary school certificate. That a section of the political class led by the likes of FFK and the TAN movement have decided to milk the issue of a sworn affidavit for all its worth, is the greatest testimony that Jonathan's administration is bereft of ideas! I say this because anyone with an ounce of sense knows fully well that this was the same tactic employed by the so-called truthists (Tea-Party) movement in the United States, on account of Obama's birth certificate. It is up to you to show that you are capable of rising above sentiments, by providing more germane arguments rather than the asinine logic you have rehashed here. 7 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by luvmijeje(f): 12:16pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
@TheOverview, phewww! Well said. |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by k9ine(m): 12:36pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
yuncka: No the law does not empower INEC to disqualify a candidate. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by JustCalMeDBoss(m): 12:43pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
The gift of a good liar is making people believe you lack a talent for lying 2 Likes |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by bdidi: 12:49pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
TheOtherview: The case against buhari is a 10 faceted case. The issue of buhari having a statement of result or certificate is part of it. The issue is why did buhari not submit his certificate along with the form he submitted. Why swear an affidavit when he knew he could have gotten this same statement of result he presented ? Why did he not do a due diligence with the military with regards to the reason for the affidavit before submitting his form? Why did he assume his certificate is with the military? Now looking at the supposed statement of result, it is glaring that there were some discrepancies-- In documentation, is Mohammadu the same with mohammed? Let's be sincere. We know him as mohammadu and I am sure all other documents he has is written mohamadu. Don't go telling me that mohamadu is the same with mohamed. That could be accepted from the face value but also that can be debated too! When you are filling an information( personal info or otherwise) it behooves on you to fill the correct thing with regards to the evidences you have that can be verifiable and also behooves on you that you don't put false info that will negate ur integrity. Its an interesting case no doubt! But I believe the rule of law will always prevail 5 Likes |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 12:52pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
bdidi: Buhari never bothered asking for a statement of result. This effort was largely down to an interested third party (I will see if I can find a reference). Is Adeshola the same name as Adesola? Is an Orisha the same as Orisa? Is the Ibo language the same as Igbo? Ever heard of standardization? Now answer this: has the Cambridge examination board repudiated the results attributed to it? Recall that it was quick off the mark to issue two press releases, to put FFK and the TAN movement out of their misery on other matters. Would it not have made sense to restrain Katsina college from peddling false results also? Think man! EXCLUSIVE: Katsina College releases Buhari’s WASC results Source: [url]http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/175384-breaking-katsina-college-releases-buharis-%E2%80%8Bwasc-results.html[/url] Continue clutching at straws 5 Likes |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by jdilight(m): 12:55pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
k9ine: Only few Nigerians has good brain like yours. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by yuncka: 12:56pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
k9ine: Quite true...INEC really should be made to be really 'independent'... The ought to be made to have power to disqualify candidates that have cases to answer or incomplete credentials. 1 Like |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:00pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by fitzmayowa: 1:07pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
Thought provoking article, APC didn't handle this certificate issue well, allowing this issue become something huge...IMO |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by jdilight(m): 1:10pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
TheOtherview: You see what I just said just manifested. Are you to tell me what I said was irony or am I the person to say that. A lot of thoughtless people in Nigeria. 3 Likes |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:15pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
fitzmayowa: There is absolutely nothing thought provoking about the conjectural musings up there. It is not every bit of tittle-tattle that one has to respond to. If anything the APC has actually gained much from the publicity generated from this sordid affair, since the ruling party elected to sail up the creek without a paddle. While they've huffed and puffed from day one, making idioootic statements like the one depicted below, Jonathan's handlers have only ended up with egg on the face at each and every turn.
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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:17pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
jdilight: You think we dey the same league? |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by k9ine(m): 1:20pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
@ TheOtherview myself TANoid? No pls, you got it excellently wrong. 1 Like |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by jdilight(m): 1:20pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
TheOtherview: No, you dey 3rd division of the worst amateur league in Zimbabwe. How possibly can we be in the same league? |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:21pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
k9ine: In that case, I stand corrected. Please accept my apology. |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 1:23pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
The argument is clear and straightforward: BUHARI DOESN'T NOT HAVE THE SAI CERTIFICATE. Period. All the points you raised are relevant and carried. But for our weaker institutions, GMB would have been disqualified since last year, and possibly facing charges of perjury. It's so depressing the average broom waver lacks the ability to dispassionately see the matter the way it is, and ask their boss to present his certificate. Of course, you can't present what you don't have. Cambridge said only GMB could apply to it for his spurious certificate, and yet, like you rightly said, the old man was in London. He never thought it wise to bury this matter once and for all my taking a TAXI to the school aand secure his certificate. He knew that due to the fear pple have about his kinsfolk going on a killing spree if he's disqualified, he never bothered. We never mattered to him! All I see is the rule of law changed to the rule of fear. 2 Likes |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by luvmijeje(f): 1:24pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
The issue is why did buhari not submit his certificate along with the form he submitted. Why swear an affidavit when he knew he could have gotten this same statement of result he presented The question is moot as far as he sworn to an affidavit on stolen certificate and not statement of result. Why did he not do a due diligence with the military with regards to the reason for the affidavit before submitting his form? Are we talking of the same military that has been bastardized and politicise? A military that was used to rig an election? Why did he assume his certificate is with the military? He said his copy of certificate was with the military. Now looking at the supposed statement of result, it is glaring that there were some discrepancies-- In documentation, is Mohammadu the same with mohammed? Let's be sincere. We know him as mohammadu and I am sure all other documents he has is written mohamadu. Don't go telling me that mohamadu is the same with mohamed. That could be accepted from the face value but also that can be debated too!The onus is on you guys to disprove the fact by finding the the suppose Muhammadu. When you are filling an information( personal info or otherwise) it behooves on you to fill the correct thing with regards to the evidences you have that can be verifiable and also behooves on you that you don't put false info that will negate ur integrity. As I said the burden of proof is on you guys to take the school and not Buhari to Court. The school has come in his defense. His classmates has come out in his defense. The ball is now in your court. Its an interesting case no doubt! But I believe the rule of law will always prevail It's indeed an interesting case but it lacks substance. 2 Likes |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 1:25pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
fitzmayowa: They deliberately allowed it to stay the way it is; it's a planned scheme. Their boss isn't qualified to contest in the first place. |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:27pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
dein77: Has Cambridge refuted the claims made by Katsina College - its affiliate in Nigeria? Are you unaware that the results that supposedly originate from that institution, are all over the web? Do you see why I always question the intellectual sagacity of TANoids? 1 Like |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Rilwon: 1:32pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
And PDP.s continue crying 1 Like |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:32pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
luvmijeje: They won't get all you've written here. Their hue and cry is reminiscent of the mind-atrophy many Truthists succumbed to, over Obama's birth certificate. Senses simply took flight! |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 1:36pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
TheOtherview: The Cambridge knew the situation on ground. It acted with wisdom. The only way to show you have something is to PRESENT it. Period. I wrote and passed my WASC back in 2001, and for any reason there's some doubt about it, I simply ask WAEC to publish my result; won't go to my secondary school. This is an unnecessary battle! |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:41pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
dein77: Did you read the screen shot I attached earlier? I speak from a position of authority on this subject, having worked for examination boards in England, Comrade. To quote Donald Rumsfeld: Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones. In this case, we are dealing with a known known |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 1:44pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
TheOtherview: Thank you. But what's the known known sir? |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:44pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
dein77: We've got a certifying statement of results credited to the Cambridge exam board. Capisce? If you fault its veracity, sue Katsina College! 1 Like |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 1:49pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
TheOtherview: Matter don tie wrapper! |
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by bdidi: 1:49pm On Mar 25, 2015 |
TheOtherview: U mentioned standardization, what has standardization got to do with filling correction information in a form? If ur Mohammed in one of ur document nagates mohammadu in another of ur document, would you say its standardization as u put it? In documentation, it means both document belongs to different people. Except u swear an affidavit stating the right name that will then make the other valid. Why is it that if u fill a form and you have an error you counter sign on that error? Is it not to make the document or form valid There are rules in simple documentation. Anyway the suit is why did buhari not submit his credentials along with the form he filled Why did he say his credentials were with the military when he knew that it can be gotten like he has claimed already. Why did he fill in the form that he is a civil servant? You know the truth but you are just been sentimental my opinion though no harm intended |
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