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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Lachynos2k2(m): 11:28pm On Mar 23, 2015
Trippledots:



i stumbled cross your post, and decided to help. that is if you haven't solved it already.

now, if u r handy with soldering iron and have a little knowledge of electronics u can wire a small chip to help block backward flow of current (using a mosfet). another is to connect some number of diodes to do the same job. both have their ads and disads. i can send you a link for the ckt for that.

secondly, if you want me to build one for you, den pm me so we can discuss how to do it and send it over to you.

yw
my brother how can I locate u?I need a good inverter dat can charge my laptop,phones,and power mini table fan coz they are the things I need when there is no nepa..if possible small flat screen tv n decoder... please call 08060506610.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by adegbitetunji(m): 2:55pm On Mar 25, 2015
Gents;

Is it okay to use a single 100AH/12V battery with a 24V inverter? Also, does anyone here use tubular batteries?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ciwi: 4:44pm On Mar 25, 2015
Pls I dont know much about inverters. Pls wat will it cost for me to install an inverter for just 3 bulbs, standing fan, Tv and charge phone and laptop?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Femiii: 11:57am On Mar 26, 2015
pls I need an expert advise. which one should I go 4, a new 100amps car battery or tokunbo 100amps inverter battery? I only av 15k 2 spare
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Trippledots(m): 8:15pm On Mar 26, 2015
Lachynos2k2:
my brother how can I locate u?I need a good inverter dat can charge my laptop,phones,and power mini table fan coz they are the things I need when there is no nepa..if possible small flat screen tv n decoder... please call 08060506610.


i don't sell inverters. i can only assist with the technical know how, to help you get wat is suitable for ur needs.... For your gadgets, a 300watts to 500watts, modified sine wave inverter will do....then get an appropriately sized charger to handle ur battery bank.

I have been running a similar amount of load on common ups....however with some little modifications to keep it going. its been running since late 2012 till now.... dropped my inverter cost by more than 50%. d battery and charging apparatus still require some real dough anyways smiley

i shared my knowledge free on a whatsapp thread, but it seems it wasn't really put to use by most persons there 'because na free thing'....so if interested ill charge you a token and share d writeup with you. other than that i can still assist with advice on load sizing inverter capacity and all that stuff
merci.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Trippledots(m): 8:24pm On Mar 26, 2015
adegbitetunji:
Gents;

Is it okay to use a single 100AH/12V battery with a 24V inverter? Also, does anyone here use tubular batteries?

it wont work
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by bobojoshua(m): 8:43pm On Mar 26, 2015
Trippledots:



i don't sell inverters. i can only assist with the technical know how, to help you get wat is suitable for ur needs.... For your gadgets, a 300watts to 500watts, modified sine wave inverter will do....then get an appropriately sized charger to handle ur battery bank.

I have been running a similar amount of load on common ups....however with some little modifications to keep it going. its been running since late 2012 till now.... dropped my inverter cost by more than 50%. d battery and charging apparatus still require some real dough anyways smiley

i shared my knowledge free on a whatsapp thread, but it seems it wasn't really put to use by most persons there 'because na free thing'....so if interested ill charge you a token and share d writeup with you. other than that i can still assist with advice on load sizing inverter capacity and all that stuff
merci.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by baba11(m): 8:48pm On Mar 26, 2015
Femiii:
pls I need an expert advise. which one should I go 4, a new 100amps car battery or tokunbo 100amps inverter battery? I only av 15k 2 spare
15k?
Maybe you're joking!!! lol
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Trippledots(m): 9:25pm On Mar 26, 2015
ciwi:
Pls I dont know much about inverters. Pls wat will it cost for me to install an inverter for just 3 bulbs, standing fan, Tv and charge phone and laptop?



there r sellers here. look for one feflo
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Trippledots(m): 10:54pm On Mar 26, 2015
Femiii:
pls I need an expert advise. which one should I go 4, a new 100amps car battery or tokunbo 100amps inverter battery? I only av 15k 2 spare



i got a used emerson 200ah battery for 19k around march last year. trans was about 3k. it lasted me close to a year. so yh, u can be lucky to get a good deal on deep cycle batteries. hence as for d advice, from experience, i say go for d used inverter battery. especially if its sealed lead acid.y? dat type can be revived if its dead. but the dry type is dead once and for all......as far as i know.
good luck smiley
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Femiii: 11:15pm On Mar 26, 2015
Trippledots:




i got a used emerson 200ah battery for 19k around march last year. trans was about 3k. it lasted me close to a year. so yh, u can be lucky to get a good deal on deep cycle batteries. hence as for d advice, from experience, i say go for d used inverter battery. especially if its sealed lead acid.y? dat type can be revived if its dead. but the dry type is dead once and for all......as far as i know.
good luck smiley
thanks bt where did u get d ba3

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Trippledots(m): 11:56pm On Mar 26, 2015
Femiii:
thanks bt where did u get d ba3


at computer village. i saw d advert here on nl
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Femiii: 12:34am On Mar 27, 2015
Trippledots:



at computer village. i saw d advert here on nl
wot are does tins 2 watch out 4 wen buying as in testing
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by adegbitetunji(m): 1:05pm On Mar 27, 2015
Anyone gat used telecom (mast) batteries for sale.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Ptee1: 2:39am On Mar 28, 2015
@Trippledots and anyone who can help.

I use a 1.4Kva TEC inverter. It's been working well until recently. It shows 'th%' on the digital display. Please what does that mean and what's your advised course of action.

Thanks
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by adegbitetunji(m): 3:38pm On Mar 28, 2015
ekkywolex:
I have 2 160amp battery Mtn mast for sale @ 25k. U pay for the courier. Send me mail @ ekkywolex@ yahoo.com.

Chief; gat any battery in stock?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by kiekie1(m): 9:21pm On Mar 28, 2015
adegbitetunji:
Anyone gat used telecom (mast) batteries for sale.

Hello, buying used telecomm batteries is all about luck ! Its affordable but don't go for brands like China Shoto, Ritar etc Monbart,Northstar,Narada,varta lad etc are ok if you can get them under good working condition. I currently use USA flooded trojan batteries and it gives me rest of mind . Contact me for enquiry & purchase (08135031951) THANKS!
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by adegbitetunji(m): 11:18pm On Mar 28, 2015
kiekie1:


Hello, buying used telecomm batteries is all about luck ! Its affordable but don't go for brands like China Shoto, Ritar etc Monbart,Northstar,Narada,varta lad etc are ok if you can get them under good working condition. I currently use USA flooded trojan batteries and it gives me rest of mind . Contact me for enquiry & purchase (08135031951) THANKS!

Thanks chief; I'd give u a shout!
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by olasalam(m): 11:21am On Mar 30, 2015
ciwi:
Pls I dont know much about inverters. Pls wat will it cost for me to install an inverter for just 3 bulbs, standing fan, Tv and charge phone and laptop?

Getting an inverter is as easy and affordable as getting a Tecno fone, battery is the main thing.
Also know that the more the ba3s ..the longer ur inverter will serve.

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Judejibs: 1:48pm On Mar 30, 2015
So it turns out you have been thinking of an alternative to your everyday purchase of Fuel for your generator, also hoping there will be a miracle soon and we have constant light. I too hope so, but in the meantime why don’t you save yourself the risk of storing fuel in gallons and think about a Power Inverter and become your own NEPA. After-all we are in the Jet age.

Are you planning to buy or upgrade your inverter in this season? Then instead of being trapped in the marketing gimmicks, understand some basic facts and do a little bit home work. Here some facts you must know before buying an inverter

Calculate your power requirements

Before going to purchase an inverter- You have to make a rough estimation of your power requirements. remember- Inverter is not a Generator.

Wattage rating of typical home appliances

Appliances Power

Fan (Ceiling) 50-75 Watts

Fan (Table) 25-50 Watts

CFL 18 Watts 18 Watts

Computer (Desktop) 80- 150 Watts

Laptop 20- 75 Watts

LCD TV (32”) 150 Watts

Refrigerator 160 – 250 Watts

Tube Light (4 Feet) 40 Watts

Starting power and running power

Starting and running power requirement of all electric appliances are different. An 18 Watts CFL takes around 25 Watts power to start and after few seconds it stabilizes to 18 Watts. Some appliances like Refrigerator, Washing Machine etc take almost double power to start as compared to the normal running power. Hence before selecting an inverter you must calculate the starting power requirement also.

Difference between VA and Watts

Often people confuse with the difference between Watts and VA ratings of inverter or other home appliances. Manufacturers use both these terms according to their requirements to confuse and mislead the consumers. Power drawn by the equipment (Power using equipment like Bulb, Fridge, Washing Machines, ACs, Stabilizers etc.) and Power generated by the equipment (Generators, Inverters, UPS etc) can be expressed in Watts or VA (Volt Ampere). In general Power generating or stabilizing equipment manufacturers use the term VA to specify their ratings and power consuming products use Watts to specify their ratings. Here comes the difference. Power in Watts is the real power drawn or supplied by an equipment, this is the real value. VA is the apparent power (more theoretical) which is obtained by multiplying the Voltage and Current drawn/supplied by an equipment. We can equate the VA and Watts ratings:

Power in Watts = Power in VA- Losses

or

Power in Watts = Power in VA x Efficiency of the equipment

The ratio of Power in Watts to Power in VA is termed as Power factor. Unfortunately manufacturers often don’t specify the power factor or efficiency in their products.

Let’s see an example. You are purchasing an inverter with 650 VA power ratings. This 650 VA indicates, it can supply 650 VA power under ideal situations( means efficiency of the inverter is 100%). If we take 80% as a typical efficiency figure, the said inverter can supply 80% of 650 = 520 Watts only. Now you can understand why inverter manufacturers only publish the VA rating on their products. If an inverter or UPS is coming without mentioning power factor, you must take a safe value of 0.6 (60%) as power factor while connecting appliances.

Digital Inverter

What is digital in inverters? First generation inverters were using power transistors as switching devices and transistorized circuitry for monitoring/controlling applications. That is an old story. Nowadays inverter technology has changed a lot. A complete transition from old square wave technology to Pure Sine wave technology with the help of advanced Digital Signal Processing (DSP) techniques. Micro controllers are extensively utilized for précised monitoring and controlling applications. Switching transistors are replaced with high efficient MOSFETs.

Battery

Battery- the vital part of inverter. Performance and life of an inverter greatly depends upon battery. We can see several classifications of inverter batteries. Normally high power Lead Acid batteries are used to power inverters. Lead acid batteries are classified in to different types as per application, design, technology etc.

Battery Capacity

Capacity of a battery is expressed in terms of Ampere Hour (Ah). It indicates the rate of current a battery can supply for a given duration. If the capacity of a battery is 100 Ah, that battery can supply 100 Ampere current for 1 Hour or 1 Ampere Current for 100 Hrs, 2 Amps Current for 50 Hrs .Capacity of inverter batteries are generally 100 Ah, 150 Ah or 180 Ah 200Ah, 260 Ah up to 1660Ah

Why automotive batteries are not suitable for inverters?

Lead acid batteries used for automotive purpose are termed as “High Cycle” lead acid batteries. These batteries are designed to provide high current for a very short duration (To start the vehicles). Automotive lead acid batteries are not designed to be regularly discharged by more than 25% of their rated capacity. Here the requirement of inverter is totally different. Inverter require “Deep Cycle” type batteries to provide continuous power which can be discharged at least 50% of their rated capacity. Some good deep cycle batteries can be discharged over 80% of their capacity. Deep Cycle batteries have specially designed thick plates known as AGM to withstand frequent charging and discharging.

If you like a fit and forget inverter system or your situations don’t permit you to do periodic maintenance of batteries then go for a maintenance free battery. Let me quote one example- My friend uses Maintenance free batteries in his home because his old aged mother is living alone and she doesn’t have enough knowledge on battery maintenance. In that situation maintenance free battery the best choice.

Tubular batteries

This is the most popular segment of inverter batteries-Tubular batteries have several advantages compared to flat plate batteries. More complex design increases the manufacture cost but the high electrical efficiency and extra long life make tubular batteries suitable for both domestic and industrial applications. A good maintained tubular battery can run unto 8 years or more. Tubular batteries comparatively require less maintenance. Cost of tubular batteries can go up to double of a normal flat plate battery, however if you have a high efficiency inverter like Xantrex then go for a tubular battery, you will not regret..

To Be Continued....................................................................................................
Talk to us today on 08030675746 for all your power needs and advice

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Judejibs: 1:49pm On Mar 30, 2015
So it turns out you have been thinking of an alternative to your everyday purchase of Fuel for your generator, also hoping there will be a miracle soon and we have constant light. I too hope so, but in the meantime why don’t you save yourself the risk of storing fuel in gallons and think about a Power Inverter and become your own NEPA. After-all we are in the Jet age.

Are you planning to buy or upgrade your inverter in this season? Then instead of being trapped in the marketing gimmicks, understand some basic facts and do a little bit home work. Here some facts you must know before buying an inverter

Calculate your power requirements

Before going to purchase an inverter- You have to make a rough estimation of your power requirements. remember- Inverter is not a Generator.

Wattage rating of typical home appliances

Appliances Power

Fan (Ceiling) 50-75 Watts

Fan (Table) 25-50 Watts

CFL 18 Watts 18 Watts

Computer (Desktop) 80- 150 Watts

Laptop 20- 75 Watts

LCD TV (32”) 150 Watts

Refrigerator 160 – 250 Watts

Tube Light (4 Feet) 40 Watts

Starting power and running power

Starting and running power requirement of all electric appliances are different. An 18 Watts CFL takes around 25 Watts power to start and after few seconds it stabilizes to 18 Watts. Some appliances like Refrigerator, Washing Machine etc take almost double power to start as compared to the normal running power. Hence before selecting an inverter you must calculate the starting power requirement also.

Difference between VA and Watts

Often people confuse with the difference between Watts and VA ratings of inverter or other home appliances. Manufacturers use both these terms according to their requirements to confuse and mislead the consumers. Power drawn by the equipment (Power using equipment like Bulb, Fridge, Washing Machines, ACs, Stabilizers etc.) and Power generated by the equipment (Generators, Inverters, UPS etc) can be expressed in Watts or VA (Volt Ampere). In general Power generating or stabilizing equipment manufacturers use the term VA to specify their ratings and power consuming products use Watts to specify their ratings. Here comes the difference. Power in Watts is the real power drawn or supplied by an equipment, this is the real value. VA is the apparent power (more theoretical) which is obtained by multiplying the Voltage and Current drawn/supplied by an equipment. We can equate the VA and Watts ratings:

Power in Watts = Power in VA- Losses

or

Power in Watts = Power in VA x Efficiency of the equipment

The ratio of Power in Watts to Power in VA is termed as Power factor. Unfortunately manufacturers often don’t specify the power factor or efficiency in their products.

Let’s see an example. You are purchasing an inverter with 650 VA power ratings. This 650 VA indicates, it can supply 650 VA power under ideal situations( means efficiency of the inverter is 100%). If we take 80% as a typical efficiency figure, the said inverter can supply 80% of 650 = 520 Watts only. Now you can understand why inverter manufacturers only publish the VA rating on their products. If an inverter or UPS is coming without mentioning power factor, you must take a safe value of 0.6 (60%) as power factor while connecting appliances.

Digital Inverter

What is digital in inverters? First generation inverters were using power transistors as switching devices and transistorized circuitry for monitoring/controlling applications. That is an old story. Nowadays inverter technology has changed a lot. A complete transition from old square wave technology to Pure Sine wave technology with the help of advanced Digital Signal Processing (DSP) techniques. Micro controllers are extensively utilized for précised monitoring and controlling applications. Switching transistors are replaced with high efficient MOSFETs.

Battery

Battery- the vital part of inverter. Performance and life of an inverter greatly depends upon battery. We can see several classifications of inverter batteries. Normally high power Lead Acid batteries are used to power inverters. Lead acid batteries are classified in to different types as per application, design, technology etc.

Battery Capacity

Capacity of a battery is expressed in terms of Ampere Hour (Ah). It indicates the rate of current a battery can supply for a given duration. If the capacity of a battery is 100 Ah, that battery can supply 100 Ampere current for 1 Hour or 1 Ampere Current for 100 Hrs, 2 Amps Current for 50 Hrs .Capacity of inverter batteries are generally 100 Ah, 150 Ah or 180 Ah 200Ah, 260 Ah up to 1660Ah

Why automotive batteries are not suitable for inverters?

Lead acid batteries used for automotive purpose are termed as “High Cycle” lead acid batteries. These batteries are designed to provide high current for a very short duration (To start the vehicles). Automotive lead acid batteries are not designed to be regularly discharged by more than 25% of their rated capacity. Here the requirement of inverter is totally different. Inverter require “Deep Cycle” type batteries to provide continuous power which can be discharged at least 50% of their rated capacity. Some good deep cycle batteries can be discharged over 80% of their capacity. Deep Cycle batteries have specially designed thick plates known as AGM to withstand frequent charging and discharging.

If you like a fit and forget inverter system or your situations don’t permit you to do periodic maintenance of batteries then go for a maintenance free battery. Let me quote one example- My friend uses Maintenance free batteries in his home because his old aged mother is living alone and she doesn’t have enough knowledge on battery maintenance. In that situation maintenance free battery the best choice.

Tubular batteries

This is the most popular segment of inverter batteries-Tubular batteries have several advantages compared to flat plate batteries. More complex design increases the manufacture cost but the high electrical efficiency and extra long life make tubular batteries suitable for both domestic and industrial applications. A good maintained tubular battery can run unto 8 years or more. Tubular batteries comparatively require less maintenance. Cost of tubular batteries can go up to double of a normal flat plate battery, however if you have a high efficiency inverter like Xantrex then go for a tubular battery, you will not regret..

To Be Continued....................................................................................................
lets talk on 08030675746 for power needs and advice
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by zeestone99(m): 12:20am On Apr 03, 2015
Get affordable and professional installation of inverters from us...
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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by martinz1: 2:30pm On Apr 08, 2015
Lachynos2k2:
my brother how can I locate u?I need a good inverter dat can charge my laptop,phones,and power mini table fan coz they are the things I need when there is no nepa..if possible small flat screen tv n decoder... please call 08060506610.

Text/call/whatsapp 08037902606
For ur inverter solution
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Druss(m): 12:59pm On Apr 11, 2015
How good are Mopower Inverters? I am beginning to think this inverter will wreck my batteries.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by oblo(m): 9:22pm On Apr 11, 2015
My pair of 200 ah Ritar batteries dont hold a charge as well again. Is there no way of rejuvenating them and squeeze some extra juice from them or should i just go for a new set.?

I use them with my 800va treashold pure sinewave inverter.

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by temizeee(m): 5:50pm On Apr 12, 2015
oblo:
My pair of 200 ah Ritar batteries dont hold a charge as well again. Is there no way of rejuvenating them and squeeze some extra juice from them or should i just go for a new set.?

I use them with my 800va treashold pure sinewave inverter.
yu can take the ba3 to battery repairer or junkside charger they will changed plate n put new electrolyte.hopefully it will get stronger..i knw of someone who tried it n it works.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by zeestone99(m): 1:03am On Apr 13, 2015
temizeee:
yu can take the ba3 to battery repairer or junkside charger they will changed plate n put new electrolyte.hopefully it will get stronger..i knw of someone who tried it n it works.

Pls nt Road side ba3 charger we talking about deep cycle ba3 nt d normal car ba3 u can open anyhw...
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by temizeee(m): 10:36am On Apr 13, 2015
zeestone99:


Pls nt Road side ba3 charger we talking about deep cycle ba3 nt d normal car ba3 u can open anyhw...
i only advice him according to ma expierience,actually he need to replace d ba3 i knw that is yr recommendation
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by zeestone99(m): 8:27pm On Apr 13, 2015
@ temizeee... Yes replacing the ba3 is d best option... Anyway U can contact monz power solutions for ur batteries n inverter installations.
Www.monzpowersolutions.com for more info

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by kiekie1(m): 8:07am On Apr 16, 2015
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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by israelpalatoe(m): 9:11am On Apr 16, 2015
funshiba:

I had to look for a post with respect to Mercury inverter or search for the management of Mercury then stumbled on this.

I bought my inverter April last year both Batteries and Inverter I spent about 135,000. one of the batteries given to me was faulty but they replaced it instantly at no cost. I have enjoyed the inverter for months till around December.

Around December i noticed the Inverter Battery wont last 8 berely 5 hours but my mistake that I didn't complain. My wife had a baby and I had to travel to meet my family, unfortunately Since we got back my batteries don't last 1hr.

I called the man that fixed it for me, till date he keeps making promises of coming and never comes, Now he wont even pick my calls.

I honestly will escalate to the management if I have my way. The weather is unbearable for my infant baby.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE ONLY THING I USE ON MY INVERTER IS MY TV, 2 FANS AND Energy.

hi. is your inverter imported or made in Nigeria? I can be of help to expose some secrets as inverter engineer.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by israelpalatoe(m): 9:34am On Apr 16, 2015
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