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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:13pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: No - according to an opinion peice on defence web there were 6 pilots. There were 8 at an exercise the year before (we didnt send all our grip pilots) And SAAF has consequently confirmed 18 aircrew Yet only 12 Gripen are being rotated as "off-duty" And the SAAF Grip fleet flew over 800 hours in the 2012/13 financial year The numbers dont add up |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:14pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: 18 Aircrew 26 Gripens in service 9 Gripen pilots 9 Navigators SAAF = An example of what an Airforce shouldn't be. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:15pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: You have no evidence to support these numbers. Henry120 = An example of what someone who argues on military matters should not be |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:15pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
jln115: Yeah whatever, you incompetent Navy couldn't even hit a fisherman's boat. Shame! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:16pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: Like your junior and senior officers who cant even swim. Pot calling the kettle pitch pitch black |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:18pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: Who said it was us? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:18pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: Where do you get your 14 pilots for 26 planes from? Why don't you post citations? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:20pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: You seem to know your 14 number as a fact. Post citation(s) to support your claim? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:26pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: it was alleged that 12 were in storage (with the implication that the rest were being flown) 26 - 12 = 14 Now they are rotated. Fact remains, 14 were allways in the air http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-31821/ Why would we fly 14 planes with 9 pilots? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: Your argument falls flat on it's head. Why would the SAAF fly 26 Gripens with 14 pilots? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:36pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
dragon2: SA IS AN ADVANCED ECONOMY, WE DONT BUY WEAPONS BEHIND CLOSE DOORS WITH CASH AS NIGERIA DOES WITH A LOAN MONEY. WE FOLLOW THE LEGAL WAY OF BANK FINANCING. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:42pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: Article from 9 SEPTEMBER 2013 "Bayne said the Gripen fleet has flown 3 500 hours since 2008 while the 24-strong Hawk fleet has flown over 10 000 major accident-free hours since 2005. According to testimony at the arms deal commission, 18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained up to operational status to date and 52 Hawk aircrew have been trained so far." http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821 Show us the link to the article from anywhere between 10 September 2013 to 31 December 2013 where it says 6 qualified Gripen pilots. Take your time. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 5:46pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: SOME FEW PILOTS HAVE BEEN GRADUATING FORM THE HAWKS TO GRIPENS OVER TIME. THEY ARE COMING SLOWLY BUT SURELY. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:48pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: Nope, it was the incompetent SA navy Even you can't be this naive. With 3 shells landing just 15 meters from the boat, they sure were trying to hit the boat. Any other navy would have sunk the boat. The incompetence of the SA navy shone through. The Skipper is taking the SA navy for it's incompetence. This incompetence saved his life. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 5:52pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: dragon2 has you under siege like Angola vs SANDF. What do you think should be his true, reflective alias? I suggest he should be dubbed dragon2 aka the southie slayer 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:59pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: How many rounds get fired in this video? And how many of them hit the water completely missing the target? Did more or less than 3 miss? Did our and/or German warship fire a long burst at the fishing boat? What gun was used? Manual/automatic sights? Do you know? No you dont. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY4hbTyhoxc Search the internet for other similar videos and gauge the accuracy of naval guns (not missiles). |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:01pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: Again, I ask. Who says it was SAN? Why were Germans in the area preparing for their weapons drills? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:03pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:33pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
saengine: The SA navy could not hit an Aircraft carrier if it sailed right in-front of them. An incompetent lot they are. *The rounds in the video sure destroyed the boat 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:35pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: Trying to justify your incompetence? I thought you said they weren't trying to hit the boat? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 6:38pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: Cool story. No questions of mine answered. As usual. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:38pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
lezz: NIGERIA MADE A LOAN OF A WHOOPING $1 BILLION TO PROCURE ARMS AFTER THEIR PURSE RAN DRY. AT LEAST, SA HAD MONEY FOR ARMS.DEAL, ALL THAT THEY WANTED WAS FINANCING SO THAT THEIR PROCUREMENT WOULD BE GUARANTEED. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:42pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: Warning shots? Citation needed . Thw whole world now knows South African navy CANNOT shoot straight in combat . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:42pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:46pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
patches689: I said show us the cash, you are replying with stories and English essays. Grammar and vocabulary WILL NOT buy you an OPV ! Show us the real cash .....poor people.....debtors . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:51pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
agaugust: ALL THE SOURCES AND FROM EXPERTS POINT OF VIEW THEY RECOMMEND JAS 39 GRIPEN AS VICTORIOUS OVER SU-30. IT IS A LIGHT MULTI-ROLE FIGHTER THAT MATCHES THE RUSSIAN MACHINE AND STILL BEAT IT HANDS DOWN. ITS SIZE MAKE IT COMPACT AND MORE SOPHISTICATED THAN SU-30. A DECISIVE VICTORY TO SAAB JAS 39C GRIPEN. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:57pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
SU-27 AN ORIGINAL VERSION OF SU-30s, IS BEATEN IN ALL ASPECTS BY GRIPEN JET. http://www.aviatia.net/versus/jas-39-gripen-vs-sukhoi-su-27/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:00pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
saengine: No navy fights war by jumping into to ocean like Olympic swimming competitors. Naval men sail in ships and fight in ships. When your navy gets into the ocean, they can abandon ship and go swimming so that sharks can eat them. For South African navy, the world just found out your gunners are NOT qualified to use naval weapons on their own warships.... Fake blue water navy . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:01pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
Henry120: I SAY AGAIN MORE HAWKS PILOTS HAVE BEEN GRADUALLY GRADUATING TO GRIPEN OVER TIME. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:04pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
agaugust: BLUE WATER NAVY IS NOT MADE BY HUMAN RESOUCES BUT ASSETS. DUMMY. SAN POSSESS SUBMARINES AND FRIGATES FOR BLUE WATER. WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO TEACH YOU? YOU MUST PAY ME FOR THE WORK THAT YOUR TEACHERS FAILED TO DO. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 7:19pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
agaugust: Aha. The thing you fail to comprehend is that if the Nigerian Navy skips the most basic step of swimming training, they clearly skip all other aspects. Swimming is the number one thing you learn in any Navy. Why did the Nigerian Navy make your "officers" go on a mandatory swimming course after they realised more than half cant swim? Why didnt they leave the situation as it was? Why change it if its not important? Can you answer that? No you cant. Dont waste my time. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:30pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
saengine: A navy with sailors that cannot swim, but fire weapons accurately will sink all the swimmer sailors and incompetent gunners on board South African warships. The world is now seeing a the real exposed äss of South African navy ! A coast guard will sink SAN, because your Hollywood navy cannot shoot straight . 2 Likes |
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